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Title: New MS Wireless Comfort Desktop 5000
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 04 August 2009, 10:26:50
http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/04/microsofts-wireless-comfort-desktop-5000-ready-for-windows-7/
 
Switches aside, it looks pretty swanky.  It features new functionality specifically for Windows 7.  If it's anything like the previuos version, the switches feel pretty nice for rubber domes.  I like them better than scissor switches, because they aren't as short of a throw, but they have the sharper tactility of a scissor.  Obviously, this isn't going to replace anything in anybody's lineup around here, but if you, or someone you know, is looking for something quiet for work* (and can't bring something mechanical), you could do a lot worse.
 
*I still highly recommend a brown Cherry G80 for work as it is quieter than a rubber dome.
Title: New MS Wireless Comfort Desktop 5000
Post by: Rajagra on Tue, 04 August 2009, 11:44:35
Looks nice, but ... the function keys are smaller than the media keys. Even the Esc key is tiny.
Title: New MS Wireless Comfort Desktop 5000
Post by: skartt on Tue, 04 August 2009, 12:11:50
yes, esc key is bugging me too. Additionally i am a little worried about the total height - looks ratther thick.
Title: New MS Wireless Comfort Desktop 5000
Post by: doornail on Tue, 04 August 2009, 12:16:22
Destroy open source by striking where it begins; the vi editor.
Title: New MS Wireless Comfort Desktop 5000
Post by: keyb_gr on Tue, 04 August 2009, 14:35:12
Quote from: doornail;106918
Destroy open source by striking where it begins; the vi editor.
LOL.

Implementations like these give a whole 'nother meaning to the term "F-keys" - the user may be found to emit the occasional four-letter word trying to use them. :laugh:

But really, apps heavily relying on those are no fun with such a layout, seen that myself (our PCB design prog @work is like that, it's a bit of an oldschool CAD-like software). Standard grouping makes life a lot easier there - try figuring out (quickly) where F6 is in a continuous row of 12.

I don't really get this F-key shrinking trend anyway.
Title: New MS Wireless Comfort Desktop 5000
Post by: doornail on Tue, 04 August 2009, 15:15:39
Quote from: keyb_gr;106960
LOL.

Implementations like these give a whole 'nother meaning to the term "F-keys" - the user may be found to emit the occasional four-letter word trying to use them. :laugh

A few years back I picked up a couple Logitech Elite Keyboards that shared the functions keys with a bunch of actions; stuff like email and folder commands.  If you wanted to use them as normal F keys you had to press the 'F-Lock' button.  Somehow, a dev at Logitech thought it would be a good idea to default this to off so that every time users booted their PCs, they could experience the joy of wondering why their saved game wasn't loading followed by 'gah, that stupid F-lock'.
Title: New MS Wireless Comfort Desktop 5000
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 04 August 2009, 15:38:55
Quote from: doornail;106973
A few years back I picked up a couple Logitech Elite Keyboards that shared the functions keys with a bunch of actions; stuff like email and folder commands. If you wanted to use them as normal F keys you had to press the 'F-Lock' button. Somehow, a dev at Logitech thought it would be great default this to off so that every time users booted their PCs, they could experience the joy of wondering why their saved game wasn't loading followed by 'gah, that stupid F-lock'.

At least MS decided to default the F-lock to it's proper position.  I never had a problem with F-lock on my Natural 4000.
Title: New MS Wireless Comfort Desktop 5000
Post by: skriefal on Tue, 04 August 2009, 19:09:26
... but they made the same mistake as Logitech with the "Multimedia" (http://www.microsoft.com/products/info/product.aspx?view=22&pcid=e4eef44d-ef98-44d2-9451-abc336a4ec1b&type=ovr) version of the Natural keyboard.
Title: New MS Wireless Comfort Desktop 5000
Post by: cmr on Wed, 05 August 2009, 14:03:25
yeah that escape key would not work for me :wq
Title: New MS Wireless Comfort Desktop 5000
Post by: Rajagra on Wed, 05 August 2009, 16:17:53
What I don't get is that the whole point of the function keys is to perform additional functions. Microsoft came along and defined uses for them - a standard. Now they decide their own standard uses are not important enough to justify full sized keys. It's just bizarre.