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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: thefebruaryman on Sat, 27 December 2014, 17:52:19

Title: e-ink keyboard jaasta
Post by: thefebruaryman on Sat, 27 December 2014, 17:52:19
This thing looks pretty awesome. Shame it aint mechanical.

http://www.jaasta.com/#home
Title: Re: e-ink keyboard jaasta
Post by: Paranoid Android on Sun, 28 December 2014, 18:20:18
Wait wait wait...
So are the keys like scissor switch rubberdomes with e ink screens on the top or are they like touch surfaces which don't move at all with e ink screens on top..?
It looks like the first option but I'm not sure..
Title: Re: e-ink keyboard jaasta
Post by: Chromako on Sun, 28 December 2014, 19:35:37
I'm getting deja vu...


Hmm... Ah! It's like Art Lebdev's Optimus Maximus keyboard.
Title: Re: e-ink keyboard jaasta
Post by: Paranoid Android on Sun, 28 December 2014, 20:24:02
Except cheaper I guess.
Title: Re: e-ink keyboard jaasta
Post by: 0100010 on Mon, 29 December 2014, 09:40:30
Press kit doesn't help much either WRT key switch.

(http://s17.postimg.org/na776cvb3/Labeled_exploded_model.jpg)
Title: Re: e-ink keyboard jaasta
Post by: Paranoid Android on Mon, 29 December 2014, 10:50:01
So is there actually any key travel? From that diagram I'm guessing there isn't any.....
Title: Re: e-ink keyboard jaasta
Post by: Findecanor on Mon, 29 December 2014, 13:25:38
Oh, I f**king hate one-page sites that can't scroll properly. I'll avoid and talk sh*t about Jasta for that reason alone.
Title: Re: e-ink keyboard jaasta
Post by: Huxley2500 on Mon, 29 December 2014, 14:53:32
Wasn't the Optimus mechanical?
Title: Re: e-ink keyboard jaasta
Post by: Paranoid Android on Mon, 29 December 2014, 15:33:25
Wasn't the Optimus mechanical?

No way. If it was it would have been more popular in these parts of the internet.
If I remember correctly the keys were either really crappy rubberdomes or capacitive touchscreens.
Title: Re: e-ink keyboard jaasta
Post by: Ritual on Mon, 29 December 2014, 16:46:46
In before someone buys this and installs mechanical switches in it and posts it on imgur. :thumb:
Title: Re: e-ink keyboard jaasta
Post by: thefebruaryman on Tue, 30 December 2014, 08:25:28
I hope they go the whole way with this keyboard. Granted mechanical keys would make it a million times better. But have the layout intelligently change is also needed. As an example say I am working in vim and enter visual mode, it would be great if the keyboard knew this and changes the layout to respond instantly to this showing all the options available in this mode.
Title: Re: e-ink keyboard jaasta
Post by: thefebruaryman on Tue, 30 December 2014, 08:33:41
I've just emailed the makers of the keyboard suggesting mechanical keys and intelligent layout. Will let you guys know how they respond
Title: Re: e-ink keyboard jaasta
Post by: Paranoid Android on Tue, 30 December 2014, 10:14:56
I get the feeling that they're going to five you a form letter back.
(Unicomp customer service is unbeatable.)
Title: Re: e-ink keyboard jaasta
Post by: Findecanor on Tue, 30 December 2014, 10:18:50
Wasn't the Optimus mechanical?
No way. If it was it would have been more popular in these parts of the internet.
The Optimus Maximum had Cherry ML switches and a separate screen on each key, and it was really expensive. The Optimus Popularis has transparent scissor switches over a single screen like the branded Razer keyboards.
Title: Re: e-ink keyboard jaasta
Post by: Paranoid Android on Tue, 30 December 2014, 10:22:20
 :eek:

Well I was wrong.  :)
Title: Re: e-ink keyboard jaasta
Post by: derezzed on Tue, 30 December 2014, 11:13:06
I just downloaded the press kit.  It includes the images on the company's website.  If you scroll down their page about 30%, you can see the image below in the background (minus my modification).  I circled the interface between the touchpad and the keyboard.  Notice how thin the keyboard is at the left-most column of keys (the user's right side).  Assuming the touchpad is that thick across the length of the interface, and that the entire keyboard has the same switch type, this is not a mechanical keyboard.  The entire keyboard itself is pretty thin.  If that is an actual working model and not a mock-up, those keys don't have very much travel.  I would guess that it will be a few more years before we see a commercially released mechanical keyboard with e-ink legends.  Hopefully, we'll have the option of cylindrical or spherical keys when that happens.

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Title: Re: e-ink keyboard jaasta
Post by: Paranoid Android on Tue, 30 December 2014, 11:14:25
I just downloaded the press kit.  It includes the images on the company's website.  If you scroll down their page about 30%, you can see the image below in the background (minus my modification).  I circled the interface between the touchpad and the keyboard.  Notice how thin the keyboard is at the left-most column of keys.  Assuming the touchpad is that thick across the length of the interface, and that the entire keyboard has the same switch type, this is not a mechanical keyboard.  The entire keyboard itself is pretty thin.  If that is an actual working model and not a mock-up, those keys don't have very much travel.  I would guess that it will be a few more years before we see a commercially released mechanical keyboard with e-ink legends.  Hopefully, we'll have the option of cylindrical or spherical keys when that happens.

(Attachment Link)

Ugh. It looks like it has ridiculously small travel.
Title: Re: e-ink keyboard jaasta
Post by: fserram on Wed, 07 January 2015, 22:32:36
Jaasta has been exposed as a scam.

FYI

https://www.reddit.com/r/****tykickstarters/comments/2rdcy2/i_did_some_research_into_the_scribble_pen_220k/
Title: Re: e-ink keyboard jaasta
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 07 January 2015, 22:44:57
Jaasta has been exposed as a scam.

FYI

https://www.reddit.com/r/****tykickstarters/comments/2rdcy2/i_did_some_research_into_the_scribble_pen_220k/
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