Would you really buy a Unicomp SSK though?
They said a while back it's more likely to be available mid-2015, under $200.
They said a while back it's more likely to be available mid-2015, under $200.
Source?
Would you really buy a Unicomp SSK though?
Yes I would. And given how often they replace their molding I definitely want some of the first batch.They said a while back it's more likely to be available mid-2015, under $200.
Source?
Would you really buy a Unicomp SSK though?
Yes I would. And given how often they replace their molding I definitely want some of the first batch.
I thought all the SSK talk was an April Fools joke...?
They're not gonna NEW MOLD everything.. just the shell.. we're still gonna get the crummy keycaps I bet..Show Image(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/desperate2-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862500)
For those who seem to be in the know ... and I know we should be extremely lucky if these even surfaces ...
Any talk / communication on whether they are going to attempt basic 6KRO? Or this a difficult request with buckling springs?
Not really interested in a Unicomp SSK anymore. I have an IBM SSK, which suits me just fine.
Now, if they were to come up with a Model F SSK with capacitive buckling spring switches, that could be interesting.
For those who seem to be in the know ... and I know we should be extremely lucky if these even surfaces ...
Any talk / communication on whether they are going to attempt basic 6KRO? Or this a difficult request with buckling springs?
Not a difficult request with buckling springs, since all Model F's have native NKRO and are BS, but the Model M's membrane BS design isn't conducive to more than 2KRO.
Not really interested in a Unicomp SSK anymore. I have an IBM SSK, which suits me just fine.
Now, if they were to come up with a Model F SSK with capacitive buckling spring switches, that could be interesting.
This to infinity.
What can they be working on for so long?
Design is already there thanks to IBM.
Presumably they have machinery that can produce the cases, barrel plates and whatever else is required.
BS mechanism and keycaps - check.
Controller - check!
What else is there?
One thing I would like to see is if they have that "Tenkeyless" keyboard, they should have an actual "Tenkey" numpad to go with it.
Picture this: Your SSK on a desk, your mousepad to the right (or left) and the separate *matching* "Tenkey" on the other side of that.
If you are going to go SSK, at least offer the "Tenkey" as an option for it for the future. That does make sense to me.
Better than having some "generic" numpad there. It's a thought.
Would you really buy a Unicomp SSK though?
What can they be working on for so long?
Design is already there thanks to IBM.
Presumably they have machinery that can produce the cases, barrel plates and whatever else is required.
BS mechanism and keycaps - check.
Controller - check!
What else is there?
New equipment for a process of having black keys with white lettering. Wireless capability (bluetooth). The actual bezel in a variety of colors (including industrial). New membrane design. Tooling for new equipment to replace older equipment for a new line of keyboards (not just SSK). Need I go on?
What can they be working on for so long?
Design is already there thanks to IBM.
Presumably they have machinery that can produce the cases, barrel plates and whatever else is required.
BS mechanism and keycaps - check.
Controller - check!
What else is there?
New equipment for a process of having black keys with white lettering. Wireless capability (bluetooth). The actual bezel in a variety of colors (including industrial). New membrane design. Tooling for new equipment to replace older equipment for a new line of keyboards (not just SSK). Need I go on?
New equipment for a process of having black keys with white lettering - Do we need this? Black on pearl is fine by me.
Wireless capability (bluetooth) - There are few enough Bluetooth keyboards out there, do they imagine this will be a major selling point for an admittedly niche keyboard?
The actual bezel in a variety of colors (including industrial) - Black or beige is fine, industrial would be a bonus, but that is just a case of getting different colour plastic beads or whatever raw material they use. Actually there is no reason why they can't have ANY case colour.
New membrane design - Fair enough, although aren't there tales of people cutting the side of a full-sized Model M membrane to make a SSK?
Tooling for new equipment to replace older equipment for a new line of keyboards (not just SSK) - Don't they have SSK tooling already? It hasn't had much (if any) use over the past couple of decades!
I will point out that since the new 105 barrels, yes. They have to redesign some components. The new bezels as well. The wireless aspect is a nice idea, but probably won't happen soon. The reason why I said that is for connectivity to devices that will only work with bluetooth and not OBD.
They really do have to move forward to attract a new generation of users if they want a future.
I'm sorry I can't be politically correct, and please everyone all the time. I am new here, yes.
I don't want them to fail.
I think about the future, and how many kids these days have to have the cheap overpriced junk that's available now.
Is that what it's going to be?
Maybe giving Unicomp ideas to push them into the 21st century isn't such a bad idea.
Edit: My last sentence was wrong. I had to correct that.
logically, they would see that mx gets alot of attention for keycap customization. i'm not talking about gh. just look at how many different styles vortex makes. this would just be a feature checklist match. is that the best strategy? maybe not, but it happens in literally almost every industry.
filco thought bluetooth was important enough to remake the filco minila. a niche within a super niche, yet ir happened.
Everyone can speculate, but I believe they are just going to stick with the classic SSK layout. This is what the community wants! I am sure they will have everything better than before too! I believe in them.LOL. Good luck. I would be amazed to see a Unicomp SSK anytime in the next 2 years. They致e been making totally empty promises about this for years.
One thing I would like to see is when they release that "Tenkeyless" keyboard, they should have an actual "Tenkey" numpad to go with it.Never going to happen. Not even worth dreaming about. If you want this, you値l have to build it yourself.
Here痴 what they teased last April:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Uh9AOLT.png)
Here痴 what they teased last April:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Uh9AOLT.png)
I really like that they're making it more compact than the original SSK, since these keyboards have unnecessarily wide/thick borders that take up precious space on the desk. Anyone know why their keyboards have such wide/thick borders. Is it necessary for the structural integrity of the design, or they're just too lazy to change things up and modernize (or simply want to retain that retro/classic look)?
New equipment for a process of having black keys with white lettering. Wireless capability (bluetooth). The actual bezel in a variety of colors (including industrial). New membrane design. Tooling for new equipment to replace older equipment for a new line of keyboards (not just SSK). Need I go on?
New equipment for a process of having black keys with white lettering. Wireless capability (bluetooth). The actual bezel in a variety of colors (including industrial). New membrane design. Tooling for new equipment to replace older equipment for a new line of keyboards (not just SSK). Need I go on?
You can keep going on but I think you are dreaming.
I don't see why not. I mean, it would be in utter most interest for Unicomp to produce an tenkeyless model with all the latest bells and whistles. It's not like the current technologies (Wireless capability etc) is out of this world so they need to invent "hot water" again and again. It would only send their sales sky-high.If you go raise the tens of thousands of dollars for new injection molding tooling, I知 sure they値l be glad to use it.
I don't see why not. I mean, it would be in utter most interest for Unicomp to produce an tenkeyless model with all the latest bells and whistles. It's not like the current technologies (Wireless capability etc) is out of this world so they need to invent "hot water" again and again. It would only send their sales sky-high.If you go raise the tens of thousands of dollars for new injection molding tooling, I知 sure they値l be glad to use it.
But remember that there's a huge market for counterfeit Iphones, significantly less so for buckling spring keyboards. While it may be worth it if every single GH and DT member bought one, that number in reality is much smaller when you eliminate those who don't like BS, have an SSK already, or need a numpadI don't see why not. I mean, it would be in utter most interest for Unicomp to produce an tenkeyless model with all the latest bells and whistles. It's not like the current technologies (Wireless capability etc) is out of this world so they need to invent "hot water" again and again. It would only send their sales sky-high.If you go raise the tens of thousands of dollars for new injection molding tooling, I知 sure they値l be glad to use it.
If you can find perfectly replicated Chinese copies of Iphones a month after they were released I'm sure they can come with something like this. Besides, in order to gain something you have to invest too. Imagine, if they are able to pull this off, I'm sure every third geekhack member would want to own an SSK Model M... When there is a will, there is a way. I'm more worried about the first thing.
But remember that there's a huge market for counterfeit Iphones, significantly less so for buckling spring keyboards. While it may be worth it if every single GH and DT member bought one, that number in reality is much smaller when you eliminate those who don't like BS, have an SSK already, or need a numpadI don't see why not. I mean, it would be in utter most interest for Unicomp to produce an tenkeyless model with all the latest bells and whistles. It's not like the current technologies (Wireless capability etc) is out of this world so they need to invent "hot water" again and again. It would only send their sales sky-high.If you go raise the tens of thousands of dollars for new injection molding tooling, I知 sure they値l be glad to use it.
If you can find perfectly replicated Chinese copies of Iphones a month after they were released I'm sure they can come with something like this.
Besides, in order to gain something you have to invest too. Imagine, if they are able to pull this off, I'm sure every third geekhack member would want to own an SSK Model M... When there is a will, there is a way. I'm more worried about the first thing.
I agree with you to some extent. I think that Unicomp has to realize that they can't go on forever making profit of full Model M's and these mech last like a lifetime. Let's say 100 BS fans buy 100 Unicomp Model M's , I think they will be golden for the next few years. Long story short, if Unicomp doesn't want to go ahead and expand their offers fine with me, but in reality, in the long run, it's a missed opportunity.
I agree with you to some extent. I think that Unicomp has to realize that they can't go on forever making profit of full Model M's and these mech last like a lifetime. Let's say 100 BS fans buy 100 Unicomp Model M's , I think they will be golden for the next few years. Long story short, if Unicomp doesn't want to go ahead and expand their offers fine with me, but in reality, in the long run, it's a missed opportunity.
Selling 100 keyboards generate very little revenue. The cost of parts, production, factory facility expenses, employee salary, insurance, and various other business-related expenses (office operation, website, etc)--they would have to sell FAR more than 100 keyboards to just break even.
I agree with you to some extent. I think that Unicomp has to realize that they can't go on forever making profit of full Model M's and these mech last like a lifetime. Let's say 100 BS fans buy 100 Unicomp Model M's , I think they will be golden for the next few years. Long story short, if Unicomp doesn't want to go ahead and expand their offers fine with me, but in reality, in the long run, it's a missed opportunity.
Selling 100 keyboards generate very little revenue. The cost of parts, production, factory facility expenses, employee salary, insurance, and various other business-related expenses (office operation, website, etc)--they would have to sell FAR more than 100 keyboards to just break even.
took me a while to understand the example you were making. So you're just saying that as long as most BS users buy unicomp boards, they'll be fine? The only problem there is that people using unicomps are the minority by a pretty large margin.I agree with you to some extent. I think that Unicomp has to realize that they can't go on forever making profit of full Model M's and these mech last like a lifetime. Let's say 100 BS fans buy 100 Unicomp Model M's , I think they will be golden for the next few years. Long story short, if Unicomp doesn't want to go ahead and expand their offers fine with me, but in reality, in the long run, it's a missed opportunity.
Selling 100 keyboards generate very little revenue. The cost of parts, production, factory facility expenses, employee salary, insurance, and various other business-related expenses (office operation, website, etc)--they would have to sell FAR more than 100 keyboards to just break even.
You do realize that the number I mentioned was only hypothetical to make an example.