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Title: Type Heaven with PBT keycap same Realforce ?
Post by: minhtri on Sun, 04 January 2015, 10:26:44
Hello,

I have a RF 104(White/Grey) at home, and I going to buy blue keycap for it  :p

I also want a RF at my working desk in company, so I think about buy a Type Heaven and replace with keycap from the other RF 104

I just wonder whether the feeling is same when I use Type Heaven with PBT keycap

Have any one tried this before ?

Title: Re: Type Heaven with PBT keycap same Realforce ?
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 04 January 2015, 10:29:49
Here's a wonderful video demonstrating how big of difference the keycaps can make. To me, the Type Heaven sounded identical to the realforce once PBT caps were used.
Title: Re: Type Heaven with PBT keycap same Realforce ?
Post by: minhtri on Sun, 04 January 2015, 10:47:09
thank a lot.

well, whats about type feeling ? Do u think its same ?
Title: Re: Type Heaven with PBT keycap same Realforce ?
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 04 January 2015, 11:33:09
thank a lot.

well, whats about type feeling ? Do u think its same ?
Here's a wonderful video demonstrating how big of difference the keycaps can make. To me, the Type Heaven sounded identical to the realforce once PBT caps were used.
i can't speak to that since I've never used a Type Heaven, only a Realforce. I think with the exception of the case and keycaps, the construction is probably similar between the two, so I think with PBT keycaps the typing experience should be similar between the two.
Title: Re: Type Heaven with PBT keycap same Realforce ?
Post by: btctopre on Sun, 04 January 2015, 13:14:24
I have a Type Heaven being delivered for work tomorrow, so I'll take it home and pop my PBT keys on it and let you know how I think it compares.
Title: Re: Type Heaven with PBT keycap same Realforce ?
Post by: minhtri on Sun, 04 January 2015, 23:23:53
I have a Type Heaven being delivered for work tomorrow, so I'll take it home and pop my PBT keys on it and let you know how I think it compares.

thank you very much for your helping :D
Title: Re: Type Heaven with PBT keycap same Realforce ?
Post by: btctopre on Mon, 05 January 2015, 19:39:08
Alright. Spent half a day with the Type Heaven and its stock ABS keys then brought it home and typed on it with PBT keys for a bit, doing a bunch of side-by-side comparisons and what not. This is a Type Heaven vs a 45g 87U:

The stock Type Heaven by itself feels more... rigid than a Realforce. The bottom out just doesn't have as nice of a "cushion" as the Realforce does, the ABS keys produce more of a thack sound than a thock, and they definitely wobble around a little more than the Realforce. My Type Heaven also felt like it required slightly more force to press the keys, though I've read that can just be Topre switches in general.

With PBT keys on the Type Heaven, it still types the same pretty much. Nothing changes with the bottom out, but the sound becomes a little more thock-y, and the wobble decreases (looks like maybe the gap between sides on the stems is smaller on the PBT keys). The keys themselves obviously have a different feel to them (the ABS Type Heaven keys legitimately feel cheap compared side-by-side with the RF PBT heh), so that improves the typing experience a little bit, but it's just not the same as a Realforce overall. Maybe if the sliders were lubricated or something the feel would improve, but at stock it's not as smooth.

If you were already planning on buying the Blue keys and can find a Type Heaven for a fair price (I paid $125, though there may be one on Amazon for $100 + shipping (http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00IZFO4M2/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new)), then I'd say it's not a bad route to go for a work keyboard with the replaced PBT caps on it. I know for me personally my plan is just to use the Type Heaven with stock keys until I can find a new 104UB-DK at a reasonable price.

Title: Re: Type Heaven with PBT keycap same Realforce ?
Post by: minhtri on Tue, 06 January 2015, 06:36:22
Alright. Spent half a day with the Type Heaven and its stock ABS keys then brought it home and typed on it with PBT keys for a bit, doing a bunch of side-by-side comparisons and what not. This is a Type Heaven vs a 45g 87U:

The stock Type Heaven by itself feels more... rigid than a Realforce. The bottom out just doesn't have as nice of a "cushion" as the Realforce does, the ABS keys produce more of a thack sound than a thock, and they definitely wobble around a little more than the Realforce. My Type Heaven also felt like it required slightly more force to press the keys, though I've read that can just be Topre switches in general.

With PBT keys on the Type Heaven, it still types the same pretty much. Nothing changes with the bottom out, but the sound becomes a little more thock-y, and the wobble decreases (looks like maybe the gap between sides on the stems is smaller on the PBT keys). The keys themselves obviously have a different feel to them (the ABS Type Heaven keys legitimately feel cheap compared side-by-side with the RF PBT heh), so that improves the typing experience a little bit, but it's just not the same as a Realforce overall. Maybe if the sliders were lubricated or something the feel would improve, but at stock it's not as smooth.

If you were already planning on buying the Blue keys and can find a Type Heaven for a fair price (I paid $125, though there may be one on Amazon for $100 + shipping (http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00IZFO4M2/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new)), then I'd say it's not a bad route to go for a work keyboard with the replaced PBT caps on it. I know for me personally my plan is just to use the Type Heaven with stock keys until I can find a new 104UB-DK at a reasonable price.



thank you for your feeling experience

i just got my 104UB-DK recently with ~287$

i ordered pbt blue keycap with ~182$

they re selling type heaven with ~163$ here
Title: Re: Type Heaven with PBT keycap same Realforce ?
Post by: Hyde on Wed, 07 January 2015, 17:09:02
^ Nice, I'm planning to make my ghetto 104UB-DK by combining a 104U + Type Heaven domes.

Now just waiting for Type Heaven to go on sale then I'll post my progress after.
Title: Re: Type Heaven with PBT keycap same Realforce ?
Post by: Hyde on Mon, 26 January 2015, 00:19:32
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68076.0

LOL I have made my ghetto 104UB-DK.  For anyone that's interested can follow the link.