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geekhack Marketplace => Great Finds => Topic started by: Snowdog993 on Thu, 08 January 2015, 10:57:40

Title: Very nice condition terminal keyboard. 1395660. On EBay.
Post by: Snowdog993 on Thu, 08 January 2015, 10:57:40
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-M-1395660-Terminal-Keyboard-RJ45-1993-/261723408300?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item3cefee47ac

Not a super find or a super deal.  Just a very nice condition terminal board.  You will still need to get an adapter for this to work. 
Title: Re: Very nice condition terminal keyboard. 1395660. On EBay.
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 08 January 2015, 10:59:21
I would say that nearly $70 shipped is at least $20 too high.
Title: Re: Very nice condition terminal keyboard. 1395660. On EBay.
Post by: Snowdog993 on Thu, 08 January 2015, 11:02:53
I would say that nearly $70 shipped is at least $20 too high.
Really?  I could have sworn that $39.95 + 13.05 shipping is about $53.00  But then again my math may be pretty bad compared to that new math?
Title: Re: Very nice condition terminal keyboard. 1395660. On EBay.
Post by: Sygaldry on Thu, 08 January 2015, 11:06:48
I would say that nearly $70 shipped is at least $20 too high.
Really?  I could have sworn that $39.95 + 13.05 shipping is about $53.00  But then again my math may be pretty bad compared to that new math?
You must be located on the West Coast. Shipping is 25 dollars to Chicago.
Title: Re: Very nice condition terminal keyboard. 1395660. On EBay.
Post by: Snowdog993 on Thu, 08 January 2015, 11:15:11
Yeah west coast.  I guess shipping would be a factor depending on your location.  A good deal here anyway.  Maybe someone out this side of the continent will snag it.
Title: Re: Very nice condition terminal keyboard. 1395660. On EBay.
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 08 January 2015, 11:41:24
I would say that nearly $70 shipped is at least $20 too high.
Really?  I could have sworn that $39.95 + 13.05 shipping is about $53.00  But then again my math may be pretty bad compared to that new math?
Quick to passive-aggressiveness. Good personality trait
Title: Re: Very nice condition terminal keyboard. 1395660. On EBay.
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 08 January 2015, 15:59:32
On my sales I put in the flat rate game board box rates pretty much automatically - $18 domestic and $78 international.

It is a sure thing and I don't have to fret about it.

A light keyboard going to a neighboring state might go for $10-12 (but how often do I have a light keyboard?) and I will sometimes kick a few dollars back to the buyer if that happens.
Title: Re: Very nice condition terminal keyboard. 1395660. On EBay.
Post by: Xonar on Thu, 08 January 2015, 17:06:04
It's in very good condition for the price, but personally, I don't think I'd buy a blue label 122 key Model M. Rather, I'd look for an early silver label or maybe a grey label, which actually seem to be more common in the 122 key variety. What I'd really look for if I was going to buy another 122 key board is a Model F, though.
Title: Re: Very nice condition terminal keyboard. 1395660. On EBay.
Post by: Snowdog993 on Thu, 08 January 2015, 19:30:50
Another find I have is this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lexmark-NEW-Computer-Keyboard-Model-M-C3229A-PN1428260-/261693715008?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item3cee293240

I believe that is a terminal emulation board, if I am not mistaken.  After shipping it is more, but it is a good find otherwise.

Edit: This means no adapter needed.  Natural PS/2. 

I guess he is including a couple computer power cables too?  Interesting.

Edit: The model number is the 1428260. 

Another thread discusses this exact same model:  Confirmed PS/2 Emulation.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=26600.0
Title: Re: Very nice condition terminal keyboard. 1395660. On EBay.
Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 09 January 2015, 23:05:47
Another find I have is this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lexmark-NEW-Computer-Keyboard-Model-M-C3229A-PN1428260-/261693715008?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item3cee293240

I believe that is a terminal emulation board, if I am not mistaken.  After shipping it is more, but it is a good find otherwise.

Edit: This means no adapter needed.  Natural PS/2. 

Terminal emulator keyboards plug into PS/2 (or AT) enabled computers like the IBM PS/2 that run terminal emulation software.

Actual terminal boards for IBM terminals have terminal connectors (4p4c usually, but others as well depending on the system)
Title: Re: Very nice condition terminal keyboard. 1395660. On EBay.
Post by: Snowdog993 on Sat, 10 January 2015, 00:12:22

Terminal emulator keyboards plug into PS/2 (or AT) enabled computers like the IBM PS/2 that run terminal emulation software.

Actual terminal boards for IBM terminals have terminal connectors (4p4c usually, but others as well depending on the system)

Question Mark!  I have no idea what you just said.  All I know is you can use them like a regular keyboard.  And yes with terminal emulator software like Procomm +.  Are you trying to confuse me?  Or everyone else?
Title: Re: Very nice condition terminal keyboard. 1395660. On EBay.
Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 10 January 2015, 08:33:45

Terminal emulator keyboards plug into PS/2 (or AT) enabled computers like the IBM PS/2 that run terminal emulation software.

Actual terminal boards for IBM terminals have terminal connectors (4p4c usually, but others as well depending on the system)

Question Mark!  I have no idea what you just said.  All I know is you can use them like a regular keyboard.  And yes with terminal emulator software like Procomm +.  Are you trying to confuse me?  Or everyone else?

I'm not trynig to confuse anyone. Are you?

To recap: here's the post to which I was responding:
Another find I have is this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lexmark-NEW-Computer-Keyboard-Model-M-C3229A-PN1428260-/261693715008?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item3cee293240

I believe that is a terminal emulation board, if I am not mistaken.  After shipping it is more, but it is a good find otherwise.

Edit: This means no adapter needed.  Natural PS/2. 

And again, with some emphasis added
I believe that is a terminal emulation board, if I am not mistaken.
Edit: This means no adapter needed.  Natural PS/2
I knew that all IBM "terminal emulation" boards are PS/2 or AT instead of 4p4c, because they connect to an actual terminal emulator instead of a terminal emulator. A "terminal emulator" keyboard outputs PS/2 by definition.

I was wondering why you edited your post with this "new" info, when the info there was already in your post.

Newertheless, perhaps I am mistaken. Regardless I wash my hands of this incident. I, a geek, have hacking to attend to.
Title: Re: Very nice condition terminal keyboard. 1395660. On EBay.
Post by: Snowdog993 on Sat, 10 January 2015, 09:04:40
I will tell you why.  It was redundant.  Didn't I already say that?  I was wondering what you meant?  Were you clarifying that it wasn't a terminal board, or that I didn't know the difference at all?
That threw me for a major loop! 

Edit: I guess I come across as some mad person or something.  I'm not "mad" at you at all.  I was just confused with the reply you gave at the end.  I'm a geek too.
Title: Re: Very nice condition terminal keyboard. 1395660. On EBay.
Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 10 January 2015, 21:18:52
I will tell you why.  It was redundant.  Didn't I already say that?  I was wondering what you meant?  Were you clarifying that it wasn't a terminal board, or that I didn't know the difference at all?
That threw me for a major loop! 

Edit: I guess I come across as some mad person or something.  I'm not "mad" at you at all.  I was just confused with the reply you gave at the end.  I'm a geek too.


I just misread you I thought by "edit: this means no adapter required native PS/2" you meant you looked it up and posted it like it was new info. I mentioned that it was redundant, so was therefore confused.

I think instead you meant something like the following: "Oh, not everyone is an IBM expert 'round here, so I'll edit this to clarify that by "terminal emulation" I meant: has a PS/2 cable so no adapter needed".

Which makes a lot of sense to me.

I think sometimes you come across as being angry at something, or that you have something to prove, but it doesn't bother me. I deal with angry people all day long, and have some perspective. As such, I always give people the benefit of the doubt. I've known lots of people that just typed differently and came across as arrogant when they weren't really. This is one reason I love meeting GHers so much.

You celarly know a lot about IBM, and I respect that, but since you're relatively new (just over a month!) I have to try and make sure you know what it looks like you might. There are plenty of people who post things they think they know when they're new and you have to correct them or everyone else'll get the wrong idea about it as well (when a certain person moved to a different forum, he posted an article comparing MX green to white switches. His findings were unscientific, misleading, and wrong. My "corrected" version didn't get as much press, and so I spent the next several years pointing out the errors in his method. Since his had more people watching it, everyone assumed it was right, so I had to play catch up. Fortunately bluebar has a video that is definitive.)

So we just have to be careful until we know you. I don't think anyone else is trynig to be that way, but just ride it out. I've been impressed with your very good info thus far, which is really what I care about in the end (it's about the keyboards, not the people, people!) :P
Title: Re: Very nice condition terminal keyboard. 1395660. On EBay.
Post by: Snowdog993 on Sat, 10 January 2015, 21:34:26
Thank you very much for the compliment.