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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: Bromono on Wed, 14 January 2015, 17:45:17
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http://imgur.com/WRxb8N0
The switches are weird as well. they feel mechanical but don't look mechanical...
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Cool! Got any switch pics?
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My guess wouldve been keytronic f&f, but those look mechanical enough. Now I want a switch pic too. :)
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Hmm, kinda cool :thumb:
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Looks pretty cool :D
If you can, would also be curious for switch pics!
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I'm guessing Fujitsu leaf spring only because of the shape of the keycaps remind me of FMTowns.
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Got some switch pics. Its weird I cant find anything Online with the model number. When I type it in it give me a full terminal.
http://imgur.com/a/raCJj
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Looks like Futaba: http://deskthority.net/wiki/Futaba_clicky_switch
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Got some switch pics. Its weird I cant find anything Online with the model number. When I type it in it give me a full terminal.
http://imgur.com/a/raCJj
Looks like a Futaba switch (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Futaba_clicky_switch). Not sure if they're clicky, you'd have to tell us.
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Nope not clicky. Its linear. Not as heavy as blacks and not as light as reds.
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Nope not clicky. Its linear. Not as heavy as blacks and not as light as reds.
So I'd guess it's a linear Futaba board that came with that terminal model you found. I'm pretty sure there are other Futaba switches besides clicky. And there might not have a discrete part number for the board itself?
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http://imgur.com/Wrk2J59
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It says on the wiki
"The provisional name is a misnomer, as there is evidence of an identical-looking linear version"
Think anyone on Deskauthority would be interested?
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Neat! I love cool old stuff.
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It says on the wiki
"The provisional name is a misnomer, as there is evidence of an identical-looking linear version"
You are 100% positive that every single switch is perfectly linear? Although I've found a fair amount of evidence in favour of linear Futabas, not everyone agrees with me on this, which is why I'm keen to prove beyond reasonable doubt that a linear one exists.
Normally I'd suggest you open one up for inspection, but these switches don't come apart :-) It's a shame that you didn't find a busted keyboard, as then there would be no harm in sacrificing a switch to prove 100% once and for all that the linear version exists, and what exactly is inside one of them.
And yes, then we need to rename the stupid things. jacobolus dislikes my choice of "SMK second generation", which makes me wary about using "Futaba second generation". I agree that this is a dubious choice, since we can't prove the absence of intervening or preceding product ranges; for example, HaaTa turned up some amazing old Alps switches from way back when, long before the ones we all know and love.
Unfortunately I really suck at naming things (all my switch names suck) but unless anyone out there can do any better than me at contacting Futaba for details¹, we'll need to make something up.
¹ Companies on my no-reply list include: Alps, Forward, Futaba, NMB (USA), Sejin, Mitsumi, Wong's Electronics; companies on my awkward and uncooperative list include: iRocks, MacAlly, SMK, RAFI, Ortek, Printec DS — all companies who the right person (especially Japanese, Korean and Chinese speakers!) might be able to coax more out of. I was hoping that tinnie could tackle Wong's as they're a Hong Kong company. So much we still need to learn and knowledge is being destroyed every year as more tooling and documentation is discarded, staff leave, and companies close down. Native Asian language speakers are key to this, I feel, but over at Deskthority I've failed to find anyone willing to help with anything.
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It says on the wiki
"The provisional name is a misnomer, as there is evidence of an identical-looking linear version"
You are 100% positive that every single switch is perfectly linear? Although I've found a fair amount of evidence in favour of linear Futabas, not everyone agrees with me on this, which is why I'm keen to prove beyond reasonable doubt that a linear one exists.
Normally I'd suggest you open one up for inspection, but these switches don't come apart :-) It's a shame that you didn't find a busted keyboard, as then there would be no harm in sacrificing a switch to prove 100% once and for all that the linear version exists, and what exactly is inside one of them.
And yes, then we need to rename the stupid things. jacobolus dislikes my choice of "SMK second generation", which makes me wary about using "Futaba second generation". I agree that this is a dubious choice, since we can't prove the absence of intervening or preceding product ranges; for example, HaaTa turned up some amazing old Alps switches from way back when, long before the ones we all know and love.
Unfortunately I really suck at naming things (all my switch names suck) but unless anyone out there can do any better than me at contacting Futaba for details¹, we'll need to make something up.
¹ Companies on my no-reply list include: Alps, Forward, Futaba, NMB (USA), Sejin, Mitsumi, Wong's Electronics; companies on my awkward and uncooperative list include: iRocks, MacAlly, SMK, RAFI, Ortek, Printec DS — all companies who the right person (especially Japanese, Korean and Chinese speakers!) might be able to coax more out of. I was hoping that tinnie could tackle Wong's as they're a Hong Kong company. So much we still need to learn and knowledge is being destroyed every year as more tooling and documentation is discarded, staff leave, and companies close down. Native Asian language speakers are key to this, I feel, but over at Deskthority I've failed to find anyone willing to help with anything.
Well I have owned keyboards with Blacks, Reds, Clears, Blues and White Alps.
Blues and White alps are definitely clicky.
These are by no means clicky, They feel like closer to reds then anything. Just not as light. I can rest my hand comfortably without the keys giving in. and provide no tactile feedback like clears. I would take a video of me typing on it. But I am no good with youtube.
None of the keys are clicky besides the caps lock, but the caps lock is one of those keys that stay down until pressed again.
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You should wrap those image urls with [img] and [/img blocks, friend.
I'd be curious to try out those Futabas (assuming they are) even though I'm not a fan of linear at all. ^^
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OK, so officially linear Futaba clicky switches exist.
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OK, so officially linear Futaba clicky switches exist.
I would say so. I'll see if anyone is interested on deskauthority. comes with the terminal to. everything works o.o
They can verify for themselves =D
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So this is the whole setup. it appears to have belonged to a florist. I looks like it belongs in a museum haha.
http://IMGUR.COM/REARebU
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So this is the whole setup. it appears to have belonged to a florist. I looks like it belongs in a museum haha.
http://IMGUR.COM/REARebU
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Booting it up! oh gawd lets see what happens.
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OH GAWD. WHAT DO I DO GUYS?
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If you get this reference, free internet points
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interesting keycaps, at first I thought they were spherical, turned out they're cylindrical
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War Games haha great movie