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Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: Rajagra on Thu, 13 August 2009, 05:27:12
USB Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140333901171)
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   * 100% Brand New
    * Color may be vary
    * Industrial Grade heavy duty
    * Standard Keypad with Mechanical key-switch
    * Plug and Play
    * No drivers required
    * Interface: USB
    * Operation system: Windows 98SE/2000/XP/ Vista / Windows 7 /linux
    * Life cycles: 50 million keystrokes
    * Key pitch: 19mm
    * Key Travel: 8mm
    * Dimension: 6 X 3.75 X 1.3 inch
    * Weight: 185 ( gm )
    * For heavy duty task such as business accounting, special POS which use keypad
"Key Travel: 8mm" ? XXXNot Cherry MX then.XXX

Might be worth a gamble, they're cheap enough.

EDIT> Glad to see I was wrong about the switches not being Cherries (see below.) Still waiting for mine.
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: kyamei on Thu, 13 August 2009, 05:39:32
For $15, I just may have to order one.

EDIT:  Ordered one, wonder what's in it.

EDITEDIT: It kind of resembles that Kinesis keypad Ripster reviewed before.
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: wellington1869 on Thu, 13 August 2009, 07:46:48
Quote from: kyamei;109393
For $15, I just may have to order one.

EDIT:  Ordered one, wonder what's in it.

EDITEDIT: It kind of resembles that Kinesis keypad Ripster reviewed before.


when you get it let us know what switches it has!
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: chongyixiong on Mon, 17 August 2009, 12:20:43
Please update on what switches are those, seems to be nice and good enough for my Tenkeyless, I do really need some numpads.
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: kyamei on Tue, 18 August 2009, 03:06:02
I'll post some pics/impressions when I get it.  Estimated shipping time is 2-4 weeks, hopefully less since I'm in Hawaii.  Then again, knowing the postal service, they'll ship it the opposite way around the world.
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: kyamei on Sat, 29 August 2009, 21:07:06
Just got delivered today.  Here's some quick impressions/pics.

Model K-202, no brand listed.  Came in a brown box with no paperwork, seems to be an OEM product.  Uses Cherry blacks, which surprisingly don't seem as heavy as people make it out to be.  I'd say its about the same as a Model M.  Double length keys don't seem to have any stabilizers so off-center presses causes them to stick.  Overall, I'd say it was well worth $15.

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=4165&stc=1&d=1251597848)
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=4166&stc=1&d=1251597848)
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: kyamei on Sat, 29 August 2009, 22:12:23
Nope, I don't see any diodes in that hole.
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: Rajagra on Wed, 02 September 2009, 10:29:59
Quote from: ripster;113030
And are you sure there are NO stabilizers - mine had two sliders on either side of the switch but no stabilizing bar.


Nope.



Doesn't seem to harm the action badly, though it is amusing watching the big keys rock if you deliberately push them off-centre.

The big keycaps have 3 connection points, the middle one attaches to the centred switch.
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: rdjack21 on Wed, 02 September 2009, 11:49:48
Quote from: ripster;113952
Hey, if nothing else it's a cheap way to try Black Cherry switches.  If I don't like it I may solder in a brown and blue cherry  too and donate it as a "Geekhack testing device".


Thats not a bad Idea. Try them all at one time. See if you can find some whites as well to put on it as well.
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: Hofy on Thu, 03 September 2009, 16:58:15
I also have one on the way.  I guess I will have to see how I like it and maybe mod it over to blue Cherry switches.
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: kyamei on Thu, 03 September 2009, 17:01:56
Quote from: ripster;113952
These $15 specials are PCB mounted and my Kinesis is plate mounted.


These are plate mounted, there's just big gaps in the plate on the sides of the switch of the large keys.
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: Hofy on Thu, 17 September 2009, 18:41:00
Rip, 2 weeks HK to US is actually pretty good.  I have had surface mail make it in 8 days, but my poor brother in law has had to wait over a month sometimes.  I should have mine when I get home on Saturday.
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: timw4mail on Thu, 17 September 2009, 21:52:59
Quote from: ripster;118821
I just got mine.  (sure takes a while from Hong Kong - $4 declared value LOL).

Not a bad keypad at all for $15.  The switches are mounted weird though - instead of a metal plate it's a PCB material and very thin.

Works fine and I can see now why Cherry Blacks could be very good for gaming but suck at typing.  You can buy also buy 10 of them instead of one Topre numpad.  The Topre doesn't go clicky clicky either and you STILL have to pay extra for the Red Esc key.

No excuse you big boat "You'll Pry The Numpad From My Dead, Cold, Accountant Hands" keyboard diehards.  Try it.  $15.  Free but deadly slow shipping.

I'll post some pics.

If I were going to try out linear switches, I would get a whole keyboard, not just a numpad.
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: wellington1869 on Sat, 19 September 2009, 12:07:06
just ordered mine too. Hope it doesnt take a month.
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: Hofy on Sat, 19 September 2009, 13:50:15
Mine wasn't here today. :-(  Maybe Monday.
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: wellington1869 on Sat, 19 September 2009, 13:57:27
Quote from: Hofy;119266
Mine wasn't here today. :-(  Maybe Monday.


actually in the last second i hesitated about ordering it. I guess i'm still thinking about it. I bought this baby a couple of weeks ago, paid just $10 shipped on ebay:

http://www.amazon.com/IBM-Numeric-Keypad-Thinkpad-USB/dp/B00004Z7F0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1253386534&sr=8-2
(http://www.extremenxt.com/images/keypad.gif)

Its mushy, tho i like the little mini wrist-rest its got. But its mushy. So I'm thinking about the black cherry one. But then i'm stuck with two numpads, lol. And if I upgrade to the TP3 soon, it'll have a built-in numpad anyway. So most likely i wont need either external numpad really. So I'm hestiating. On the other hand, 15 bucks is pretty cheap for a clicky one. ;)
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Tue, 22 September 2009, 05:39:14
Ah, this one... I'm pretty sure I know who builds em (http://www.assemblink.com/products.asp?lan=zh-en&skin=2&id=49)!
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 22 September 2009, 07:43:01
Quote from: TheSoulhunter;119753
Ah, this one... I'm pretty sure I know who builds em (http://www.assemblink.com/products.asp?lan=zh-en&skin=2&id=49)!

I'll be sure to take advantage of their low labor cost in China.
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Tue, 22 September 2009, 09:45:53
Btw, had some conversation with them some time ago...


Keypad GL-002:

- MOQ is 200pcs, $16.9 per 1pcs (for OQ of 200pcs)
- Can be made with MX switches in black and blue


Cherry MX keycaps:

- Can be ordered separately
- The MOQ is 10000pcs for single caps
- They offer blank keycaps
- The price for custom caps is $0.082 per 1pcs keycap + tooling costs (once)
- The price for 200 QWERTY sets (stock) is $12.00 per 1set
- The price for 1000 QWERTY sets (stock) is $9.50  per 1set
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 22 September 2009, 10:26:11
Quote from: ripster;119790
They must get ultralow pricing on the switches too (no, these are NOT clone or reject switches). Makes me think there is no reason why so many of these Cherry switch keyboards are over $100.

I agree, and the G80-3000 is well under $100 in many places, so I don't really see why there aren't more low priced Cherry 'boards.
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: timw4mail on Tue, 22 September 2009, 11:38:46
I'd assume the pricing is what the market will bear.
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Tue, 22 September 2009, 12:48:37
From my correspondence with Costar its seems:

- Full ANSI/QWERTY non NKRO boards with ALPS (like the ABS) cost ~25USD at MOQ
- Full ANSI/QWERTY boards with NKRO and Cherrys (like the Filco) cost ~50USD at MOQ

So, everything above this is probably win margin and costs for import/shipping/whatever!
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 22 September 2009, 12:54:17
I could bear those prices.
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: Hofy on Fri, 25 September 2009, 22:55:14
What little time I had at home this week to play with the new num pad I have figured out that the linear switches are not for me.  Not even for gaming.  I am so used to some sort of tactile response that the black Cherry switches are as bad as rubber dome membrane keyboards to me.
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: AndrewZorn on Sat, 10 October 2009, 16:25:04
awwww
could have been the perfect "gaming pad"

might still get it
cause 2kro black should be better than 2kro brown

then again
is it 2kro minimum (well, as its normally expressed) or 2 everywhere?
if i can WA + crouch/run with something in the corner it might still be worthy
(as a 2kro filco can still use modifiers)
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: SirClickAlot on Sun, 16 January 2011, 08:07:29
Quote from: ripster;113952
If I don't like it I may solder in a brown and blue cherry  too and donate it as a "Geekhack testing device".


Aha! Ripster officially beat me to it with the Switch Try Numpad ... :-)
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: Phaedrus2129 on Sun, 16 January 2011, 09:39:41
$9.19 !?!?

http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-Mechanical-Switch-Business-Grade-Keypad-Numeric-Pad-/180549027990?pt=AU_Input_Peripherals&hash=item2a098f8896
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: Phaedrus2129 on Sun, 16 January 2011, 09:43:14
Yeah, I noticed that after looking more closely too.
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: SirClickAlot on Sun, 16 January 2011, 09:43:53
Quote from: ripster;279401
Looks rubber dome.  I think half the HK Ebay listers don't speak English so just copy and paste.


I agree : those are highly likely just rubber domes... Sadly, since the price is lower than the shipping costs! :-)

Regards.
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: kaiserreich on Wed, 30 March 2011, 08:13:11
Sorry for digging this thread up from the grave.

I ordered the same numpad from the seller, paid via paypal to him on monday, but he has not sent it. Plus he is not replying to 2 messages I sent to him regarding the status of the shipment.

Just want to know if anyone can share their experience with this seller?
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: Bern on Wed, 30 March 2011, 09:42:15
I bought one of these.  Received the numpad without any problems.
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: Reaif on Wed, 30 March 2011, 14:08:03
I ordered one about a week ago. It should be arriving some time in April, or early May lol.
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: CephalicCarnage on Wed, 30 March 2011, 17:27:49
Does anyone know if this keypad support an independent numlock state?
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: CephalicCarnage on Wed, 30 March 2011, 17:51:58
Darn, so much for easy use with my laptop without having to fiddle with the numlock key.

Guess I won't be able to get away with buying a cheapo numeric keypad.
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: Tranquilite on Wed, 30 March 2011, 19:55:46
I ordered one of these, along with a some of the other switch types from Mouser. All so that I can make a more educated guess as to what I want for my first big cherry MX keyboard purchase.
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: kaiserreich on Fri, 15 April 2011, 08:57:02
Does the wide cherry logos on this means these are the old Cherry MX blacks instead of the newer ones?
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: .XL on Fri, 15 April 2011, 16:56:45
Quote from: kaiserreich;331326
Does the wide cherry logos on this means these are the old Cherry MX blacks instead of the newer ones?


Does this actually matter? It's a $15 numpad with Cherry switches...they can salvage them from the dump for all I care :p
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: kaiserreich on Fri, 15 April 2011, 20:58:09
By Old MX blacks, I do not mean that they are from the dump or anything of that nature, but rather I meant it in the way that they are the older version of the MX Black.  

Sixty mentioned it in deskthority here (http:// http://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=25) about the MX blacks with wider(old type) and narrower(new type) Cherry logos and how they feel, not that I have tested the MX Blacks with narrower logo anyway. I thought I came across more posts regarding this somewhere in that forum but this is the one I could find for now.

EDIT: I guess what I was trying to ask previously was whether the MX Blacks on this Numpad is the newer or the older type based on the size of the Cherry logo. But, unfortunately, I had people confused as to what I meant by old and new due to the poorly worded response that I wrote previously.
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: Corland on Fri, 15 April 2011, 21:27:21
Got one of these this week- the switches all feel brand new. there's no stabilizers in the larger keys, so they are very wobbly when not hit right on the switch. But for 15 bucks, it's certainly worth it.
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: curzen on Mon, 09 May 2011, 20:51:46
poop, these seem to be gone :/
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: godofdeath on Mon, 09 May 2011, 23:08:58
awww i thought there was a new listing for these things
i shoulda gotten one when i could have
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: kaiserreich on Tue, 10 May 2011, 00:59:54
http://cgi.ebay.com/Mechanical-Number-Pad-Keypad-Brown-Switch-Mac-/400101801779?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item5d27ecff33

here's an alternative. Cost twice as much, comes with MX Browns from what I understand of the description
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: godofdeath on Tue, 10 May 2011, 01:02:08
says for macs only and also the usb is ridiculously short
Title: Mechanical Switch Business Grade Keypad Numeric Pad
Post by: curzen on Tue, 10 May 2011, 06:52:13
don't see why it would be mac only. the bezel around it is somewhat stupendously big though.