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Title: is it safe to clean the model m keycaps with alcohol?
Post by: Shyfe on Thu, 13 August 2009, 18:08:24
i already cleaned most of the letter ones with water and dish detergent but i wanted to wipe the ones like the shift and space bar that have a lot of crevices with rubbing alcohol. is this safe?
Title: is it safe to clean the model m keycaps with alcohol?
Post by: InSanCen on Thu, 13 August 2009, 18:11:08
Quote from: Shyfe;109589
i already cleaned most of the letter ones with water and dish detergent but i wanted to wipe the ones like the shift and space bar that have a lot of crevices with rubbing alcohol. is this safe?


I've used Isopropyl Alcohol with no problems... (Hell, it better not affect anything, I use it on £2,000 camera lenses!)

IIRC this is just the posh name for Rubbing alcohol, a bit of googling will probably tell.
Title: is it safe to clean the model m keycaps with alcohol?
Post by: Shyfe on Thu, 13 August 2009, 18:13:24
actually im pretty sure alcohol on camera lenses ruins the coating it has.
Title: is it safe to clean the model m keycaps with alcohol?
Post by: bigpook on Thu, 13 August 2009, 18:20:10
I like to use 1:1 mix of distilled water and white vinegar. Works great on LCD displays too.
Title: is it safe to clean the model m keycaps with alcohol?
Post by: nanu on Thu, 13 August 2009, 18:20:59
Almost the same as kishy; I have a spray bottle, and dilute 70% Isopropyl even more, by almost half.  I don't use it on LCDs, though.
Title: is it safe to clean the model m keycaps with alcohol?
Post by: Manyak on Thu, 13 August 2009, 19:31:19
Why dilute it?

I've always used 90-something% alcohol for cleaning computer parts, it cleans better and evaporates faster that way.

By the way, Clorox wipes (http://www.clorox.com/products/overview.php?prod_id=cdw) do wonders at cleaning plastic PC parts, even better than rubbing alcohol.
Title: is it safe to clean the model m keycaps with alcohol?
Post by: MsKeyboard on Thu, 13 August 2009, 19:36:15
Manyak,
Great catch on the Clorox wipes.  I use them all the time, but never thought of cleaning keyboards with them.  Tried one out, and does not seem to bother the printing any.....Thanks
Title: is it safe to clean the model m keycaps with alcohol?
Post by: quadibloc on Thu, 13 August 2009, 19:47:02
Isopropyl alcohol was used to clean older computer disk drives back when the disks were removable in things that looked like giant plastic cake covers. Rubbing alcohol is usually denatured (poisoned, so people can't drink it, so that liquor taxes are avoided) ethyl alcohol.
Title: is it safe to clean the model m keycaps with alcohol?
Post by: rdjack21 on Thu, 13 August 2009, 22:08:47
Quote from: ripster;109619
Majestouch recommended Simple Green.

I tend to agree with Majestouch Simple Green is a really good cleaner. Just make sure you dilute it according to the instructions. I keep a couple of gallons on hand all the time.
Title: is it safe to clean the model m keycaps with alcohol?
Post by: keyb_gr on Fri, 14 August 2009, 03:18:30
I've used 94% denatured alcohol to clean up glue remains on my AT102DW with no ill effects. The case of a G80-1000 wasn't bothered by white spirit (though now I'd also use the alcohol there, as it doesn't have this nasty smell).

Normally concentrated dish cleaning liquid does a pretty good job though.
Title: is it safe to clean the model m keycaps with alcohol?
Post by: timw4mail on Fri, 14 August 2009, 07:31:39
I don't think rubbing alcohol generally effects the types of plastics used on keyboards and keycaps.

I've used rubbing alcohol ~85-90% to clean keycaps, keyboards, and even my MacBook. I've not had any issues.
Title: is it safe to clean the model m keycaps with alcohol?
Post by: MsKeyboard on Fri, 14 August 2009, 11:21:00
Sounds like Dudeism (http://www.dudeism.com/) to me!
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Post by: MsKeyboard on Fri, 14 August 2009, 12:58:20
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Title: is it safe to clean the model m keycaps with alcohol?
Post by: Mercen_505 on Fri, 14 August 2009, 14:47:26
Back on topic (for a moment): I've used rubbing alcohol, generic brand glass cleaner, and even lightly gone over keycaps with Magic Eraser when they were seriously gunked up. No damage to report whatsoever.
Title: is it safe to clean the model m keycaps with alcohol?
Post by: InSanCen on Sun, 16 August 2009, 12:50:45
Quote from: Shyfe;109592
actually im pretty sure alcohol on camera lenses ruins the coating it has.

Well, I use a 70% solution, and have done for a number of years.

Never touched any kind of coating yet, on any of my lenses (Canon, Sigma, Tamron, Carl Zeiss currently).

IMO, it's far better (Not to mention significantly cheaper) than a lot of the "dedicated" spray type stuff out there.

YMMV though, don't go nuking a nice lens or camera, just 'cos one person on the web hasn't had any problems.
Title: is it safe to clean the model m keycaps with alcohol?
Post by: clickclack on Sat, 22 August 2009, 16:48:26
I use alcohol exclusively for the first cleaning(70% and 90% Isopropyl) of the key caps. I have used It on over 200 keyboards and way over 20,000 keys! And I have yet to have encountered a problem. I do not let them soak in a container of it ( for no other reason than I have no practical need to).

I also have used Comet on a little over 10,000 keys and have had no problem other than a light film left if I didn't rinse enough afterwards. Comet usually gets them to look bran spankin new!!! And lets say you have a film left (easier to tell by extensive touching or if the keys are black) you can easily wipe them off with anything you have laying around (even your fingers). I prefer to wipe them off afterwards with just a tiny bit of alcohol to give them that fresh out of the factory look =)

And a little note of caution, please dont use alcohol on lenses. I have a collection of old lenses for experiments and such and I have actually seen a surface coating degredation after wiping with alcohol on a couple of them. I would also be carefull since some lenses have front glued rear seated front elements (wow that was a mouthfull!) and I wouldn't want the solvent to seep under and mess with it.
Title: is it safe to clean the model m keycaps with alcohol?
Post by: adrian-g on Sat, 22 August 2009, 19:10:45
Haha, I don't know if this is frowned upon here at Geekhack, but I just cleaned a bunch of old keycaps by prying them off and throwing them in a 25% rubbing alcohol/ 75% water mixture in a ziplock bag. If they are really dirty, you might want to add a few pinches of salt to help knock the dirt off.
Title: is it safe to clean the model m keycaps with alcohol?
Post by: calavera on Mon, 16 May 2011, 02:07:49
Can't I just use regular soap and water to clean a bunch of dye sub key caps?
Title: is it safe to clean the model m keycaps with alcohol?
Post by: gilgam on Mon, 16 May 2011, 05:47:21
There is a lot of confusion with the rubbing alcohol term

there is the standard alcohol (ethanol) sold at 70-90% and mixed with another toxic (and you get denatured alcohol) to prevent people from drinking it. It's the less toxic alcohol (if we don't care about beverages ;-) ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol
Cleaning with it seems to be safer but it's still a solvent and the denatured alcohol may leave some film, best is absolute ethanol (no not Absolut vodka) , way harder to find and much more expensive...

then there is the isopropyl alcohol, more toxic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isopropyl_alcohol

the most common choice is the ethanol, isopropyl alcohol is harder to find.
Title: is it safe to clean the model m keycaps with alcohol?
Post by: BucklingSpring on Mon, 16 May 2011, 08:57:51
Quote from: ripster;109619
I was interested in what the camera guys had to say so did a search and found a chemist's view:

"NOT use rubbing alcohol, since many of these have things added for massage."

I dunno.  I'd use Everclear because you can drink it if the keys start melting.


Good advice from the camera guy, regarding added stuff in rubbing alcohol. Although the visual impact on lenses is much more dramatic than on a keyboard. You wouldn't probably notice the remaining film on a keycap. Just think fingerprints. Stick your thumb on a camera lense… You don't need to be a CSi expert to know what it does. Then take a sterile keyboard, press a key, any key… And ask a friend to tell you which key was pressed by inspecting the keyboard.
Title: is it safe to clean the model m keycaps with alcohol?
Post by: audioave10 on Mon, 16 May 2011, 09:22:19
When you first said "bang" and "Zooey" I thought...er....nevermind.
Title: is it safe to clean the model m keycaps with alcohol?
Post by: BucklingSpring on Mon, 16 May 2011, 11:38:10
Quote from: ripster;347015
You sir have a dirty mind.  Get thee to /b/.

Funny coming from the guy who just wrote "Use UV light on your keyboard".
Title: is it safe to clean the model m keycaps with alcohol?
Post by: BucklingSpring on Mon, 16 May 2011, 16:49:05
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