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geekhack Community => Other Geeky Stuff => Topic started by: Bromono on Tue, 27 January 2015, 10:35:12
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torn between 2 monitors
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=113&cp_id=11307&cs_id=1130703&p_id=12156&seq=1&format=2
or
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CrossOver-290M-LG-IPS-LED-2560x1080-QHD-DVI-D-21-9-cineview-29-Computer-Monitor-/221514810120
I like the ultra wide aspect as I love using 2 monitors and that would help put some space on my desk, but with everything shifting to 4k, maybe I should just bite the bullet and grab one.
I don't game to much. If I do its league of legends and that's about it. I do Multitask a lot and primary use my computer for browsing the web, work, and tons of music.
What would be the better buy in this situation.
(My 550TI GTX should be able to power 4k)
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One thing you should consider is that you'll only be able to drive the 4K monitor @ 30Hz with that video card (correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the 550Ti has Display Port built in). Personally I really wouldn't want to be stuck @ 30Hz for my primary monitor so I would hold off on 4K for now. You might check into a 1440p panel instead if you want more resolution to work with.
Note: This monitor supports the 60Hz refresh rate on the DisplayPort inputs only. For the optimum (60Hz) experience, you should use a DisplayPort 1.2 cable, such as PID 10582. Note that a DisplayPort cable is NOT included with the monitor.
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One thing you should consider is that you'll only be able to drive the 4K monitor @ 30Hz with that video card (correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the 550Ti has Display Port built in). Personally I really wouldn't want to be stuck @ 30Hz for my primary monitor so I would hold off on 4K for now. You might check into a 1440p panel instead if you want more resolution to work with.
Note: This monitor supports the 60Hz refresh rate on the DisplayPort inputs only. For the optimum (60Hz) experience, you should use a DisplayPort 1.2 cable, such as PID 10582. Note that a DisplayPort cable is NOT included with the monitor.
hmm would a Display/DVI adapter not work?
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One thing you should consider is that you'll only be able to drive the 4K monitor @ 30Hz with that video card (correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the 550Ti has Display Port built in). Personally I really wouldn't want to be stuck @ 30Hz for my primary monitor so I would hold off on 4K for now. You might check into a 1440p panel instead if you want more resolution to work with.
Note: This monitor supports the 60Hz refresh rate on the DisplayPort inputs only. For the optimum (60Hz) experience, you should use a DisplayPort 1.2 cable, such as PID 10582. Note that a DisplayPort cable is NOT included with the monitor.
hmm would a Display/DVI adapter not work?
I'll have to see if I can find some documentation, but I think dual-link DVI will top out @ 2560 X 1600.
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One thing you should consider is that you'll only be able to drive the 4K monitor @ 30Hz with that video card (correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the 550Ti has Display Port built in). Personally I really wouldn't want to be stuck @ 30Hz for my primary monitor so I would hold off on 4K for now. You might check into a 1440p panel instead if you want more resolution to work with.
Note: This monitor supports the 60Hz refresh rate on the DisplayPort inputs only. For the optimum (60Hz) experience, you should use a DisplayPort 1.2 cable, such as PID 10582. Note that a DisplayPort cable is NOT included with the monitor.
hmm would a Display/DVI adapter not work?
I'll have to see if I can find some documentation, but I think dual-link DVI will top out @ 2560 X 1600.
Well worst case I can buy a another video card. I am sure i can get a deacent card with display port for around $160
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So the main problem with the budget route is the dead pixel policy which is deceptive. Perfect pixel means 2 dead pixels and up to any amount of dark pixels which are also dead pixels , but not counted.
That's kinda bull****, but well you get what you paid for.
I'd recommend ramen financing and the Asus swift.
A 550ti is not going to push 4k, its not even going to push 25x1080.
Perhaps wait it out and save ~$1200 to get a gtx 970 and an Asus swift
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So the main problem with the budget route is the dead pixel policy which is deceptive. Perfect pixel means 2 dead pixels and up to any amount of dark pixels which are also dead pixels , but not counted.
That's kinda bull****, but well you get what you paid for.
I'd recommend ramen financing and the Asus swift.
A 550ti is not going to push 4k, its not even going to push 25x1080.
Perhaps wait it out and save ~$1200 to get a gtx 970 and an Asus swift
i am not that serious into gaming to justify both of those.
http://www.amazon.com/PB278Q-27-Inch-LED-lit-Professional-Graphics/dp/B009C3M7H0/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1422386126&sr=8-3&keywords=monoprice+monitor
This monitor is essentially the same thing but without all the gaming flare. and cheaper. I will never need 144 fps.
And I am sure a lower end GTX with Display port would do me just fine.
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The PPI of the 21:9 monitor is only 95.9, and I think you should not accept anything below 100 if your eye sight is normal.
The PPI of the monoprice monitor is over 150, which is high for Windows but not high enough to justify scaling.
However, it is a TN panel according to matt3o who has one for sale in Italy (http://deskthority.net/for-sale-f55/monoprice-28-4k-uhd-led-display-t9629.html).
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So the main problem with the budget route is the dead pixel policy which is deceptive. Perfect pixel means 2 dead pixels and up to any amount of dark pixels which are also dead pixels , but not counted.
That's kinda bull****, but well you get what you paid for.
I'd recommend ramen financing and the Asus swift.
A 550ti is not going to push 4k, its not even going to push 25x1080.
Perhaps wait it out and save ~$1200 to get a gtx 970 and an Asus swift
It won't push that in games, but it could easily handle windows desktop and basic apps. Even IGPs can handle 2-3 1080p monitors for office, web and productivity tasks. If you're trying to game on a high res monitor, you may need to drop the resolution of your game to maintain a playable framerate.
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So the main problem with the budget route is the dead pixel policy which is deceptive. Perfect pixel means 2 dead pixels and up to any amount of dark pixels which are also dead pixels , but not counted.
That's kinda bull****, but well you get what you paid for.
I'd recommend ramen financing and the Asus swift.
A 550ti is not going to push 4k, its not even going to push 25x1080.
Perhaps wait it out and save ~$1200 to get a gtx 970 and an Asus swift
i am not that serious into gaming to justify both of those.
http://www.amazon.com/PB278Q-27-Inch-LED-lit-Professional-Graphics/dp/B009C3M7H0/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1422386126&sr=8-3&keywords=monoprice+monitor
This monitor is essentially the same thing but without all the gaming flare. and cheaper. I will never need 144 fps.
And I am sure a lower end GTX with Display port would do me just fine.
The key thing is.. .You don't want to buy a Cart, with out a Horse.. or a Horse without a Cart..
If you're absolutely RIDIG on staying on Budget-Gear..
Consider getting an R290x which should be going on sale pretty soon for ~$230 and it usually comes with a AMD Gold game redemption card that's worth ~$30-35 that you can pawn on Ebay.. so around $200
And then you want to get a 27" IPS
Now.. the KEY thing about IPS is COLOR.. don't worry about refresh rate, overclocking refresh rate, response time, all that jazz.. It doesn't freaking matter..
Look for an IPS panel with 99% to 110% Adobe-RGB (aRGB) color coverage..
They are FAR more vibrant than standard sRGB coverage monitors.
sRGB is only 70% of A-RGB..
So if a panel says 100% coverage of (s) rgb.. that is the cheaper crummy kind of IPS..
sRGB IPS panels are really no better than TN panels.. IPS has better viewing angle and uniformity, but that hardly matters unless you're a photoshop user..
So if you're getting IPS, the Greatest advantage would be High color coverage..
A 550ti will have trouble pushing lol and dota2 @ 2560x1440.. it might do OK on 2560x1080..
But 2560x1080 is really hard to use for anything except 2:1 movies.. EVEN THEN.. you should really be using madvr, a high quality video scalar, which will require more than a 550TI to scale to 2560x1080..
But yea.. 2560x1080.. it's really not good.. I just wouldn't bother with that...
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Get 2 crossover's and an ergo mount :P
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So the main problem with the budget route is the dead pixel policy which is deceptive. Perfect pixel means 2 dead pixels and up to any amount of dark pixels which are also dead pixels , but not counted.
That's kinda bull****, but well you get what you paid for.
I'd recommend ramen financing and the Asus swift.
A 550ti is not going to push 4k, its not even going to push 25x1080.
Perhaps wait it out and save ~$1200 to get a gtx 970 and an Asus swift
i am not that serious into gaming to justify both of those.
http://www.amazon.com/PB278Q-27-Inch-LED-lit-Professional-Graphics/dp/B009C3M7H0/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1422386126&sr=8-3&keywords=monoprice+monitor
This monitor is essentially the same thing but without all the gaming flare. and cheaper. I will never need 144 fps.
And I am sure a lower end GTX with Display port would do me just fine.
The key thing is.. .You don't want to buy a Cart, with out a Horse.. or a Horse without a Cart..
If you're absolutely RIDIG on staying on Budget-Gear..
Consider getting an R290x which should be going on sale pretty soon for ~$230 and it usually comes with a AMD Gold game redemption card that's worth ~$30-35 that you can pawn on Ebay.. so around $200
And then you want to get a 27" IPS
Now.. the KEY thing about IPS is COLOR.. don't worry about refresh rate, overclocking refresh rate, response time, all that jazz.. It doesn't freaking matter..
Look for an IPS panel with 99% to 110% Adobe-RGB (aRGB) color coverage..
They are FAR more vibrant than standard sRGB coverage monitors.
sRGB is only 70% of A-RGB..
So if a panel says 100% coverage of (s) rgb.. that is the cheaper crummy kind of IPS..
sRGB IPS panels are really no better than TN panels.. IPS has better viewing angle and uniformity, but that hardly matters unless you're a photoshop user..
So if you're getting IPS, the Greatest advantage would be High color coverage..
A 550ti will have trouble pushing lol and dota2 @ 2560x1440.. it might do OK on 2560x1080..
But 2560x1080 is really hard to use for anything except 2:1 movies.. EVEN THEN.. you should really be using madvr, a high quality video scalar, which will require more than a 550TI to scale to 2560x1080..
But yea.. 2560x1080.. it's really not good.. I just wouldn't bother with that...
I couldn't agree more
I've experienced most panel type myself and won't buy anything other than an IPS
looking forward for 4k monitor myself but that horse cart thing is so true, but than think about bottlenecking on your whole system too
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So the main problem with the budget route is the dead pixel policy which is deceptive. Perfect pixel means 2 dead pixels and up to any amount of dark pixels which are also dead pixels , but not counted.
That's kinda bull****, but well you get what you paid for.
I'd recommend ramen financing and the Asus swift.
A 550ti is not going to push 4k, its not even going to push 25x1080.
Perhaps wait it out and save ~$1200 to get a gtx 970 and an Asus swift
i am not that serious into gaming to justify both of those.
http://www.amazon.com/PB278Q-27-Inch-LED-lit-Professional-Graphics/dp/B009C3M7H0/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1422386126&sr=8-3&keywords=monoprice+monitor
This monitor is essentially the same thing but without all the gaming flare. and cheaper. I will never need 144 fps.
And I am sure a lower end GTX with Display port would do me just fine.
The key thing is.. .You don't want to buy a Cart, with out a Horse.. or a Horse without a Cart..
If you're absolutely RIDIG on staying on Budget-Gear..
Consider getting an R290x which should be going on sale pretty soon for ~$230 and it usually comes with a AMD Gold game redemption card that's worth ~$30-35 that you can pawn on Ebay.. so around $200
And then you want to get a 27" IPS
Now.. the KEY thing about IPS is COLOR.. don't worry about refresh rate, overclocking refresh rate, response time, all that jazz.. It doesn't freaking matter..
Look for an IPS panel with 99% to 110% Adobe-RGB (aRGB) color coverage..
They are FAR more vibrant than standard sRGB coverage monitors.
sRGB is only 70% of A-RGB..
So if a panel says 100% coverage of (s) rgb.. that is the cheaper crummy kind of IPS..
sRGB IPS panels are really no better than TN panels.. IPS has better viewing angle and uniformity, but that hardly matters unless you're a photoshop user..
So if you're getting IPS, the Greatest advantage would be High color coverage..
A 550ti will have trouble pushing lol and dota2 @ 2560x1440.. it might do OK on 2560x1080..
But 2560x1080 is really hard to use for anything except 2:1 movies.. EVEN THEN.. you should really be using madvr, a high quality video scalar, which will require more than a 550TI to scale to 2560x1080..
But yea.. 2560x1080.. it's really not good.. I just wouldn't bother with that...
The. I might just grab the Asus I posted earlier then. Has PLS panel instead of IPS, but both are very close to each other.
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I don't look into PLS much because they're not as common as they used to be..
Whatever panel you get.. look for 99-110% A-RGB coverage.. vs 100% S-RGB coverage..
You don't want just - S-RGB coverage.