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Title: Trying to find a vendor for ~100 custom logo Esc keys
Post by: Eugene on Sun, 08 February 2015, 05:08:13
I've tried searching through old posts for answers, but it's daunting. I'm looking for a vendor who can fulfill an order of about 100 keycaps with the silhouette below for members of my gaming community

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22649165/ej-flex3.png)

(I have a higher res version)

Do any of the major names have MOQ that low for singles? I know I can have these pad printed on ABS at WASD, but I would probably prefer PBT and some other method of printing. A white/gray logo on a black key would be best. I guess that eliminates dye-sub unless someones willing to sublimate the image into a white cap and then mask/dye the rest black. Backlit ABS caps were brought up as something people would like as well.

Should I just not bother inquiring with Signature Plastics, GMK, IMSTO, etc. and look at smaller shops?
Title: Re: Trying to find a vendor for ~100 custom logo Esc keys
Post by: suicidal_orange on Sun, 08 February 2015, 08:23:22
There's never any harm asking and I'm sure they would all be happy to make your caps - the only question will be how much they will charge.

Looking on the completed SP buys this doubleshot  SA ABS 1.75x (http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/sa-doubleshot-vim-key-caps-lock-replacement/) is surely a custom design and it was $2.50 a cap if it got to 100.  Yours is only a 1x and I'm guessing you don't want a big SA cap so it should be cheaper :)
Title: Re: Trying to find a vendor for ~100 custom logo Esc keys
Post by: Moralless on Sun, 08 February 2015, 08:31:40
Agree with suicidal_orange. I think your best bet is with Signature plastics, their customer service is great and you should be fine inquiring them about this since you're planning to order more than enough to meet the MOQ. It should be a bit cheaper than the buy that suicidal_orange linked since SA profile keycaps are generally more expensive compared to their other profiles. Also if you plan to make it a group buy which would be hosted on their website (if you're ok with other people not from the gaming forum to have the keycap) it's basically guaranteed that the MOQ will be met since you're already ordering 100 and any more orders will definitely make it cheaper for you overall as you might break more price points.
Title: Re: Trying to find a vendor for ~100 custom logo Esc keys
Post by: Melvang on Sun, 08 February 2015, 11:21:55
Fair warning, SP might not do it.  For the reason of what the image is.  They might, and could probably turn it down due to copyright issues.  If that is the case than about your best bet is to get in touch with Imsto and ask him if he will dye sub them.  As he is not located in he US, he has done logos that other companies won't touch.
Title: Re: Trying to find a vendor for ~100 custom logo Esc keys
Post by: Eugene on Sun, 08 February 2015, 21:37:52
I personally feel it's outside the realm of copyright since it's a hand-traced vector and a fairly generic silhouette, but we'll see.  But then again Coca-Cola Company gets militant over anyone using silhouettes remotely resembling its bottle shape...
Title: Re: Trying to find a vendor for ~100 custom logo Esc keys
Post by: ideus on Sun, 08 February 2015, 21:55:12
Contact Melissa at SP, and ask her if they could produce your caps. Again, nothing to lose and you may get a nice PBT die subbed cap for your community. They just start doing PBT work in DSA and DCS recently.
Title: Re: Trying to find a vendor for ~100 custom logo Esc keys
Post by: Eugene on Sun, 08 February 2015, 23:12:45
Contact Melissa at SP, and ask her if they could produce your caps. Again, nothing to lose and you may get a nice PBT die subbed cap for your community. They just start doing PBT work in DSA and DCS recently.

I was under the impression that light on dark wasn't something within the capability of dye-sub unless you cheat by masking a lighter colored cap. I'm only vaguely familiar with the printing types though. I wonder if laser+infill would look okay. Doubleshot would probably look best, but I hear SP doesn't do much doubleshot PBT? Doubleshot ABS would probably be fine in the end.
Title: Re: Trying to find a vendor for ~100 custom logo Esc keys
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 09 February 2015, 03:47:19
Maybe IMSTO $3.90 each though (maybe you could knock him down a bit for 100).

http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=93

Maybe something from here (with the possibility to dyesub onto dark keys):

http://keycapdiy.blogspot.jp/
Title: Re: Trying to find a vendor for ~100 custom logo Esc keys
Post by: Eugene on Mon, 09 February 2015, 04:36:52
Yeah, the second link is the DecentKeyboards guy I think? I ordered 4 samples from him. Hopefully making black keys isn't as painful as that blog makes it look.
Title: Re: Trying to find a vendor for ~100 custom logo Esc keys
Post by: Eugene on Sun, 01 March 2015, 08:04:54
I'm still looking. I've e-mailed IMSTO and GeekKeys primarily, but their responses have been glacial...a week to respond at best, I'm not even sure they read my last replies. I'm assuming SP is one of GeekKeys' suppliers. As I'm almost sure I wouldn't have any luck getting official authorization from Blizzard, I'm assuming my best bet is still IMSTO or some other Asia-based seller? I just want to get these damn keycaps made for my forum members, haha.

I'm basically looking at blue/gray PBT keycaps with black printing, and possibly black-coated ABS backlit keycaps.

Also /wave at MissAlaire.
Title: Re: Trying to find a vendor for ~100 custom logo Esc keys
Post by: sethk_ on Sun, 01 March 2015, 11:44:49
Couldn't you pm sp?
Title: Re: Trying to find a vendor for ~100 custom logo Esc keys
Post by: Eugene on Sun, 01 March 2015, 15:06:35
SP had IP/copyright concerns.
Title: Re: Trying to find a vendor for ~100 custom logo Esc keys
Post by: Eugene on Mon, 02 March 2015, 03:06:03
Good to go with 50 backlit keys from GeekKeys. Just need IMSTO to get back to me about doing some thick PBT dye-subs.
Title: Re: Trying to find a vendor for ~100 custom logo Esc keys
Post by: katushkin on Mon, 02 March 2015, 03:56:06
What is it a silhouette of?
Title: Re: Trying to find a vendor for ~100 custom logo Esc keys
Post by: Eugene on Mon, 02 March 2015, 04:35:27
It's a Warcraft universe Tauren flexing/posing.
Title: Re: Trying to find a vendor for ~100 custom logo Esc keys
Post by: Vectivus on Tue, 03 March 2015, 15:27:12
Good to go with 50 backlit keys from GeekKeys. Just need IMSTO to get back to me about doing some thick PBT dye-subs.

Don't give up on this dream ;D
Title: Re: Trying to find a vendor for ~100 custom logo Esc keys
Post by: Fusion on Fri, 06 March 2015, 14:45:50
I personally feel it's outside the realm of copyright since it's a hand-traced vector and a fairly generic silhouette, but we'll see.  But then again Coca-Cola Company gets militant over anyone using silhouettes remotely resembling its bottle shape...

Searching Google with your image pops up with a bunch of ElitistJerks links. It's pretty close to their logo. I couldn't call the Coca-Cola logo mine if I hand traced over it-it's still ripping off the logo.
Title: Re: Trying to find a vendor for ~100 custom logo Esc keys
Post by: Eugene on Fri, 06 March 2015, 19:37:41
EJ is the community I'm talking about. It doesn't own the image, Blizzard does.