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geekhack Marketplace => Great Finds => Topic started by: 1391406 on Sun, 15 February 2015, 17:32:27
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All things considered, it looks to be in great (http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-M-Clicky-Space-Saving-Keyboard-Industrial-SSK-41G3600-1992-Perfect-/191512815506?&_trksid=p2056016.m2516.l5255) condition.
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I'll probably be bidding on this.
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I'm curious to see how high this goes.
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This would be so nice to have. I get the feeling it'll be more expensive than my budget allows, unfortunately.
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I'm surprised that last one actually sold for a somewhat reasonable price, but $500 is still pushing it, for me at least.
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Starting at $0.99, I wonder if the vendor has an idea how much this thing is worth xD . I get the feeling he might at least suspect, though.
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Starting at $0.99, I wonder if the vendor has an idea how much this thing is worth.
Feathers McGraw is an experienced seller.
Ebay works very hard to get people to list low-start auctions.
In a case like this, it won't matter because there is no way it could slip by unnoticed with a complete accurate description.
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A sensible starting price, and no silly bids yet.
What is going wrong?
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People waiting to snipe, I'd guess.
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700 dollars calling it
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700 dollars calling it
Probably about right.
More likely to be higher than lower.
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Isn't a seller feedback of 98.7% kinda ****ty?
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Isn't a seller feedback of 98.7% kinda ****ty?
He has one negative in the past year, and he responded to that rating saying the buyer made a bad return. From what I'm told, a seller cannot leave negative feedback for a buyer on ebay, so there's little rating threat to a buyer trying to cheat a seller.
On this item - I'm not certain if I've ever seen a ground strap on a an Industrial SSK. That part number is the same as mine and others in the late 1992 timeframe that I've seen and none of them have ground straps.
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I've got fifty bucks that says this is mine.
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I've got fifty bucks that says this is mine.
Well it's up to $182 less than a day into the auction, so I hope you've got a little more than that... ;)
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I've got fifty bucks that says this is mine.
Well it's up to $182 less than a day into the auction, so I hope you've got a little more than that... ;)
Wow, this was at like $100 this morning. Some people just don't get it.
Snipe.
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Cool! This is located in the town in which I went to high school. :cool: Kinda want to go take a look at it.... :rolleyes:
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It really infuriates me how dumb people are on ebay. LEARN TO SNIPE PEOPLE.
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It really infuriates me how dumb people are on ebay. LEARN TO SNIPE PEOPLE.
Auction link apparently got posted to r/MK.
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It really infuriates me how dumb people are on ebay. LEARN TO SNIPE PEOPLE.
Auction link apparently got posted to r/MK.
Ah yes, that retched hive of scum and villany.
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If I may use a gardening simile... If all of Reddit could be likened to a compost heap, and I think it can be, then /r/mk would be the biggest weed growing out of it. ;)
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If I may use a gardening simile... If all of Reddit could be likened to a compost heap, and I think it can be, then /r/mk would be the biggest weed growing out of it. ;)
It really isn't that bad. It's just lacking in actual in-depth discussion, because reddit is anti-content. (https://www.reddit.com/r/circlebroke/comments/vqy9y/dear_circlebrokers_what_changes_would_you_make_to/c56x55f)
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I will never understand why people start bidding wars 6 days before the auction ends.
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I will never understand why people start bidding wars 6 days before the auction ends.
e-peen?
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I will never understand why people start bidding wars 6 days before the auction ends.
e-peen?
To "get a bid in", I would suspect. Makes it seem like you had a chance and tried, by making a safe bid on the lower side of things. It's not really rational and I don't think anyone believes that it helps, but it might be some subconscious effort that I don't fully understand. :-X
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It works out to be the same. If anything, starting bids low and having people fight for the auction often leads to a higher final selling price. And what does it matter if people are sniping with $500-1000 bids? I used to get into "Sniping" wars with others and market price will end up dictating what this board will sell for. So based on history, it will sell for btwn $500-$1200 depending on how many deep pockets want to fight it out ....
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When I'm planning to snipe something, I usually put in a minimum bid as soon as I make the decision. This ensures I won't forget it. I don't use the watch list for this purpose because I fill my watch list with all kinds of things I want to remember during normal shopping. There's dozens of items on there most of which I never intend to buy so I ignore the watch list reminders.
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It works out to be the same. If anything, starting bids low and having people fight for the auction often leads to a higher final selling price. And what does it matter if people are sniping with $500-1000 bids? I used to get into "Sniping" wars with others and market price will end up dictating what this board will sell for. So based on history, it will sell for btwn $500-$1200 depending on how many deep pockets want to fight it out ....
Haha yeah, let the chumps battle it out on the low end. The real buyers put in the market value, with enhanced snipes, at the end of the auction.
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When I'm planning to snipe something, I usually put in a minimum bid as soon as I make the decision. This ensures I won't forget it. I don't use the watch list for this purpose because I fill my watch list with all kinds of things I want to remember during normal shopping. There's dozens of items on there most of which I never intend to buy so I ignore the watch list reminders.
Why don't you just put your snipe bid in?? That way if the bidding goes over your snipe amount, you'll be notified? And the correct thing to do at that point is to "move away" from that auction and not increase your snipe amount. Keeps one from grossly over spending. But then again, anything over $5-600 for an Industrial SSK (even one as nice as this one) is just spending a ton of money for bragging rights :p :p
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Why don't you just put your snipe bid in?? That way if the bidding goes over your snipe amount, you'll be notified? And the correct thing to do at that point is to "move away" from that auction and not increase your snipe amount. Keeps one from grossly over spending. But then again, anything over $5-600 for an Industrial SSK (even one as nice as this one) is just spending a ton of money for bragging rights :p :p
eBay 101 right there, folks.
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Take a long serious look at the item and make a cold, calculated, unemotional decision as to what is the absolute maximum amount that you would be willing to pay for it.
Put in your snipe at that amount, right then, and do not even put it on your ebay watch list.
Make every effort to forget that it even exists. Continue the forgetting if you don't get it.
If you do get it, be pleasantly surprised.
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Another approach to take is imagine you have the cash in one hand and the keyboard (in this instance) in the other hand.
Which would you really rather have?
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Take a long serious look at the item and make a cold, calculated, unemotional decision as to what is the absolute maximum amount that you would be willing to pay for it.
Put in your snipe at that amount, right then, and do not even put it on your ebay watch list.
Make every effort to forget that it even exists. Continue the forgetting if you don't get it.
If you do get it, be pleasantly surprised.
This is good advice!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_bid
"Proxy bidding is an implementation of an English second-price auction used on eBay, in which the winning bidder pays the price of the second-highest bid plus a defined increment. It differs from a Vickrey auction in that bids are not sealed; the "current highest bid" (defined as second-highest bid plus bid increment) is always displayed. In a standard first-price English auction the winner pays the amount of their bid, regardless of competitors' bids, and it is therefore desirable to place a bid that exceeds the current highest bid by the smallest possible increment. Under proxy bidding, however, the price paid is determined only by competitors' bids and not by the amount of the new bid, and so there is no economically rational incentive to place a bid below the amount one is willing to pay, or to place multiple increasing bids. An "economically rational" bidder will therefore bid the maximum amount they are willing to pay on their first bid, and never raise their bid. This approach however, in the context of eBay, reveals the bidder's limit to rival bidders early in the auction, which can sometimes artificially inflate the price of the item higher than its actual intrinsic value, and ultimately encourages the practice of auction sniping."
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Take a long serious look at the item and make a cold, calculated, unemotional decision as to what is the absolute maximum amount that you would be willing to pay for it.
Put in your snipe at that amount, right then, and do not even put it on your ebay watch list.
Make every effort to forget that it even exists. Continue the forgetting if you don't get it.
If you do get it, be pleasantly surprised.
And wonder why you bought that antique silver plated cheese dish at $200 last time you were on pot :)
Gentlemen… Attention !
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Take a long serious look at the item and make a cold, calculated, unemotional decision as to what is the absolute maximum amount that you would be willing to pay for it.
Put in your snipe at that amount, right then, and do not even put it on your ebay watch list.
Make every effort to forget that it even exists. Continue the forgetting if you don't get it.
If you do get it, be pleasantly surprised.
And wonder why you bought that antique silver plated cheese dish at $200 last time you were on pot :)
Gentlemen… Attention !
That's the frenchest case of buyers regret i've ever heard of.
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:D
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Take a long serious look at the item and make a cold, calculated, unemotional decision as to what is the absolute maximum amount that you would be willing to pay for it.
Put in your snipe at that amount, right then, and do not even put it on your ebay watch list.
Make every effort to forget that it even exists. Continue the forgetting if you don't get it.
If you do get it, be pleasantly surprised.
I'll take it.
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It's currently at $710 with more than 5.5 days to go... :))
I might have underestimated here chaps :P
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People are so damn dumb bidding this high with 5 days left.
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Five bucks it goes over $1k and we see it relisted.
Heh. :cool:
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It'll probably get up to like $1200 and then be re-listed after the winning bidder backs out.
EDIT: derp, walked away and came back and hit post...what slip said :))
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Speculators and resellers do tend to make already whacky situations even more bizarre.
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Speculators and resellers do tend to make already whacky situations even more bizarre.
It makes you wonder if the seller has some buddies of theirs artificially driving the prices up on popular items. I'm not talking just keyboards, but everything. Some prices are just illogical. This is an excellent example.
I guess some people have money to burn.
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Why pay so much for a Model M when it doesn't feel as nearly as awesome as a Model F? :p :rolleyes:
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Why pay so much for a Model M when it doesn't feel as nearly as awesome as a Model F? :p :rolleyes:
We'd all have a kish if we could.
Not everyone is able to snag boards like that. ;D
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Why pay so much for a Model M when it doesn't feel as nearly as awesome as a Model F? :p :rolleyes:
We'd all have a kish if we could.
Not everyone is able to snag boards like that. ;D
Hey man, leave the kish out of this! :p I dream of stumbling across some in the wild to share with the homies on GH. ;)
I'm just saying that my Model F-XT is only slightly wider than my SSK Model M, but the difference in tactile feeling is drastic. The Model F is much more snappy and pleasant to type on, IMO. As sexy as the Industrial SSK in the OP is, I personally would rather spend my money on a Model F restoration project.
If I was a die-hard IBM keyboard collector, I would most likely be all over this. Just my two cents! :thumb:
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Why pay so much for a Model M when it doesn't feel as nearly as awesome as a Model F? :p :rolleyes:
We'd all have a kish if we could.
Not everyone is able to snag boards like that. ;D
It's not just that one, though. I'm loving my restored and modded F-122. :D
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It's not just that one, though. I'm loving my restored and modded F-122. :D
Hey man, leave the kish out of this! :p I dream of stumbling across some in the wild to share with the homies on GH. ;)
I'm just saying that my Model F-XT is only slightly wider than my SSK Model M, but the difference in tactile feeling is drastic. The Model F is much more snappy and pleasant to type on, IMO. As sexy as the Industrial SSK in the OP is, I personally would rather spend my money on a Model F restoration project.
If I was a die-hard IBM keyboard collector, I would most likely be all over this. Just my two cents! :thumb:
I know, I actually don't really like Model Ms but I went crazy when I tried Hoff and CPTs kishs. Also I'm not a fan of boards larger than 68% so I'm a bit biased toward the kish and F77(not like I'll ever own one of these).
Edit: Speaking of finding some in the wild, I've been trying with absolutely no luck :(
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It makes you wonder if the seller has some buddies of theirs artificially driving the prices up on popular items. I'm not talking just keyboards, but everything.
Shills!!!!!! Sure there are some around!
Some prices are just illogical. This is an excellent example.
I guess some people have money to burn.
I take the opportunity to say that I never bought any antique silver plated cheese dish at $200 or whatsoever.
I was just trying to be smart with fohat nick, pot head pixies know.
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If IBM were to start making these again, I doubt they'd sell for anywhere near $700+.
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I don't even understand what all the fuss is about. It's a Model M with an (admittedly slick) grey paint scheme of which someone chopped the tenkey off. Sure it's rare, but REALLY?!
I could have a nice holiday for money like this (or almost two grams of Pd(PCy3)(CHPh)(Mes2imid)Cl2!)
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Why pay so much for a Model M when it doesn't feel as nearly as awesome as a Model F? :p :rolleyes:
agreed. To take it a step further I dont necessarily care for TKL keyboards, though I can see the attraction. Model F just takes buckling spring action to another level. Have to admit though I use my Unicomp M at work and I really do love the feel of it as well. I am always finding excuses to type at work and at home. This is an example of such an excuse :).
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I don't even understand what all the fuss is about. It's a Model M with an (admittedly slick) grey paint scheme of which someone chopped the tenkey off. Sure it's rare, but REALLY?!
I could have a nice holiday for money like this (or almost two grams of Pd(PCy3)(CHPh)(Mes2imid)Cl2!)
It is not paint, it is a different colored plastic that is of a rare variety, and the secondary legends for the embedded numpad are a bit more rare I believe. Its about supply and demand. Just because you can't justify the cost doesn't mean it isn't worth that.
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I don't even understand what all the fuss is about. It's a Model M with an (admittedly slick) grey paint scheme of which someone chopped the tenkey off. Sure it's rare, but REALLY?!
I could have a nice holiday for money like this (or almost two grams of Pd(PCy3)(CHPh)(Mes2imid)Cl2!)
It is not paint, it is a different colored plastic that is of a rare variety, and the secondary legends for the embedded numpad are a bit more rare I believe.
Not to mention, it's an SSK, not a hack job. Very rare & desired color scheme + uncommon & very well-known layout = $$$$$
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But still 200x more common than ellipse's 77-key Model F that he has taken so much flak over.
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I don't even understand what all the fuss is about. It's a Model M with an (admittedly slick) grey paint scheme of which someone chopped the tenkey off. Sure it's rare, but REALLY?!
I could have a nice holiday for money like this (or almost two grams of Pd(PCy3)(CHPh)(Mes2imid)Cl2!)
It is not paint, it is a different colored plastic that is of a rare variety, and the secondary legends for the embedded numpad are a bit more rare I believe.
Not to mention, it's an SSK, not a hack job. Very rare & desired color scheme + uncommon & very well-known layout = $$$$$
Well I'll agree it's better than a baseball card xD .
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But still 200x more common** than ellipse's 77-key Model F that he has taken so much flak over.
**that we know of right now ;)
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(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/5b/5b7e0fdd39178dc8d4148618607fc96fb8908a1ea62c04119630f50f349c4ce1.jpg)
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I don't even understand what all the fuss is about. It's a Model M with an (admittedly slick) grey paint scheme of which someone chopped the tenkey off. Sure it's rare, but REALLY?!
I could have a nice holiday for money like this (or almost two grams of Pd(PCy3)(CHPh)(Mes2imid)Cl2!)
Crazy Chemist
You weren't lying.
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I don't even understand what all the fuss is about. It's a Model M with an (admittedly slick) grey paint scheme of which someone chopped the tenkey off. Sure it's rare, but REALLY?!
I could have a nice holiday for money like this (or almost two grams of Pd(PCy3)(CHPh)(Mes2imid)Cl2!)
Crazy Chemist
You weren't lying.
Sorry, I was working late, sometimes it kind of slips out xD .
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Sold for $821.00 :eek:
I would do anything for for love, but I won't do that.
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Holy.
****.
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$1K would not have surprised me in the slightest.
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Did anyone here get it?
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Did anyone here get it?
Me.
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Did anyone here get it?
Me.
Really, awesome! Please post pictures when it arrives
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Did anyone here get it?
Me.
Congratulations!
With a little care, the keyboard should last you for many years. It's unlikely anyone will make these ever again.
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Congrats Roman! Only a few of these have come up for auction in recent memory.
Caution - price discussion for collectible items in the spoiler $821 is about $80 less than what my factory customized Industrial SSKs sell for with my off eBay discount, so it is in line with what many of these ISSK's in great condition have sold for. It is interesting these ISSKs sell for more than F62s which are also in high demand and low supply. Though I am basing the F62 estimated price on that one unit up on eBay a few months ago.