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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: ablooga on Wed, 18 February 2015, 21:40:16
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Why is it for a forum dedicated around keyboards, These reputable brands that make professional keyboards aren't talked about as much around here?
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We make our own yo
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Cooler Master gets plenty of attention around here :eek:
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Cooler Master gets plenty of attention around here :eek:
From what I've seen, its only the novatouch that gets peoples attention. Other than that rest of their keyboards in their lineup are pretty much ignored
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Life's too short to buy keyboards that suck.
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Life's too short to buy keyboards that suck.
mfw we're waiting for the GH60
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idk... QFRs are pretty good boards... just not anything special...
corsair and razer suck
rosewills are in between QFRs and razer
these are the opinions of CLiB
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https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=63058.0
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all these brands were talked about here for a long time.
hell, filco was king here. but then custom boards/custom plates/custom cases started happening and everything else is now considered "entry level"
just forget about topre, it sucks. cherry 4 lyfe
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Professional keyboards, that's funny!
And up until they became scarce the CM QFR was one of the most recommended boards here at least for beginners.
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all these brands were talked about here for a long time.
hell, filco was king here. but then custom boards/custom plates/custom cases started happening and everything else is now considered "entry level"
just forget about topre, it sucks. cherry 4 lyfe
yeah dont bother reading Demiks old posts, definitely all wrong :p
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Cooler Master gets plenty of attention around here :eek:
From what I've seen, its only the novatouch that gets peoples attention. Other than that rest of their keyboards in their lineup are pretty much ignored
I have a CM QFR :eek:
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I own a CM QFR, a couple of Rosewill RK-9000, and briefly owned a Razer BW. The Rosewills aren't great, to be honest. Shoddy soldering. And the QFR isn't much better.
Around here it's pretty much Filco or better. I own like nine Filcos. And Pokers are good, too. I own four of those. My main rotation is a KMAC, an IBM Model F 122, an HHKB, a Filco TKL, and a Poker.
My daily driver at work is a full size Ducky Shine 3. :)
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I own a CM QFR, a couple of Rosewill RK-9000, and briefly owned a Razer BW. The Rosewills aren't great, to be honest. Shoddy soldering. And the QFR isn't much better.
Around here it's pretty much Filco or better. I own like nine Filcos. And Pokers are good, too. I own four of those. My main rotation is a KMAC, an IBM Model F 122, an HHKB, a Filco TKL, and a Poker.
My daily driver at work is a full size Ducky Shine 3. :)
In my experience, the CM boards have been just fine. The only rosewill I've ever had died on me in fairly short order, although it was secondhand.
A lot of people here don't like the 'gamer' aesthetic of the razer boards, and they, along with Thermaltake boards, don't use Cherry switches anymore, just the clones and knockoffs.
A bunch of the Corsair boards aren't fully mechanical, and at least the ones I've looked at have been quite expensive.
A lot of users prefer to talk about unique boards (customs) or things that are changing in the market (such as new boards from KUL, boards with MX clears becoming more commonplace, the Novatouch with cherry caps and topre sliders, etc.) It's not necessarily that those boards don't have their place, but there are only so many conversations we can have about the same mass-produced board. There are always new customs coming out, new builds being done, etc., and that's where the attention tends to go.
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My Hacked By Geeks caps are going on my RK-9000, so I must still like it.
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CoolerMaster is very well respected here.
QFRs are received very well as well as the Novatouch.
Other boards are just awful. I could give you a rundown of certain boards if you want.
When I say that the other boards are awful, I am referring to the list of manufacturers you listed off in the OP.
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My Hacked By Geeks caps are going on my RK-9000, so I must still like it.
I was using an RK-9000 at work until I got the Ducky. I don't want to leave something at work that I really care about. :)
For the reasons not to buy a Corsair or Razer, click the link in my sig to the blog post I wrote, "How To Choose The Right Keyboard For You."
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Even if we were hyped about those boards what would we talk about? Firmware updates? Fixed cord vs removable cord? LEDs? Macro keys?
I don't think these boards get ignored on purpose; it's just that the attention usually goes to something more unique.
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I mean, there's nothing really special about those keyboards, and there's not much discussion to be had regarding them
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There's not much to say about them. For example, The Rosewill 9000 and Quickfire XT are both versions of the CST-104 design manufactured by the firm Costar. They also made the Filco boards at one time. Because of this, there's very little new and exciting they can offer, except being cheaper, or perhaps available with different options than other brands (i. e. only the Quickfire is available with Green switches).
So the discussion has to revolve around "what we added to it", like custom controllers, caps, O-rings, etc.
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Nothing really wrong with those keyboards and nothing particularly outstanding. Every one of those keyboards does seem to have one or two issues if you dig deep enough.
Those keyboards are geared for a more mainstream market.
While here we're just more collectively ocd and we have specifics things that we want and mostly agree on that just aren't found on these mainstream boards. That and seriously you can tell the difference after typing on a decent mechanical keyboard immediately.
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Those are all discussed, reviewed, etc. You fogot about Logitech (G710+).
But many of them either have a non-standard keycap layout (which is pretty stupid on a Cherry MX board if you ask me, considering how keycap swapping is one of the main benefits of getting an MX board), poor build quality, poor quality control, poor software (some have all of these faults) or nothing really to talk about.
KûL, Ducky and Filco tend to get a lot of recommendations due to their overall quality (and standard layouts). CMStorm QFR's are recommended due to their "bang for the buck", while still having standard keycaps and case design, so they're very "moddable".
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The modern Leopold are awesome because you get a great board made in Taiwan (somebody said costar), good cherry stabilizers that don't suck, sound dampening pads on the board and thick cherry profile keycaps.
It's a really strong bang for your buck.
I mean you can't get that kind of deal from any of the other guys even the larger companies.
I don't think most people actually care about replacement keycaps (present company excluded of course) that's not really the first thing most people think about but the thing is most of the stock keycaps are just terrible so you really shoot yourself in the foot with a nonstandard keyboard.
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I think there are two reasons.
One is that people here are more interested in the basic quality of the keyboard. That is why a brand like Cooler master, with their Costar made keyboards, get a lot of attention and get the nod for some of the most "bang-for-buck" mechanical keyboards out there (despite being a gaming brand).
The other one is that most of those brands make keyboards that are made to appeal aesthetically to gamers. There are plenty of gamers on geekhack, but when it comes to keyboards, they are keyboards enthusiasts first and foremost. The bright lights, glossy plastic, pictures of ninjas and so on that you find on the gaming branded peripherals, typically do not appeal to anyone except the target audience. Again, Cooler master in the exception, as their keyboards do not look like they were inspired by a sci-fi movie, and they keep it pretty basic.
That said, most of those brands do create good products. But they are just not up to par when it comes to some other brands out there. Corsair for example makes some unique looking keyboards that are quite popular. However, with some of the issues they had (like the dying leds in their keyboards) they are not preferred here to some other more established brands.
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Around here it's pretty much Filco or better. I own like nine Filcos. And Pokers are good, too. I own four of those. My main rotation is a KMAC, an IBM Model F 122, an HHKB, a Filco TKL, and a Poker.
My daily driver at work is a full size Ducky Shine 3. :)
Am shocked. I really thought you had at least 40 Filcos!
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These companies also like to put strange keycap sizes in the bottom row on many of their boards. Mainly spacebars, which makes custom caps nearly impossible or a burden. I think that's a big reason if you're talking this place specifically.
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I have mentioned Rosewill a few times. The only board I have tried out was the RK-9000. I really can't tell you much more than that because I only used it for a day. It was actually a pleasant suprise to type on. There ya go.
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the only time I bought a Rosewill, I bought it to harvest it Cherry Red switches because it was cheaper to buy the keyboard for switches than to buy switches. LOL
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I'm very happy with my Rosewill RK-9000BRI. It was really inexpensive & still gets daily use at work :thumb:
(http://i.imgur.com/AHTk0tb.jpg)
А ну, чики-брики и в дамки!
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I didn't know anyone but IBM made keyboards. I'm so confused now.
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I didn't know anyone but IBM made keyboards. I'm so confused now.
No worries Touch_It. I don't own a Rosewill. I am very happy with what I have.
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From what I've seen, its only the novatouch that gets peoples attention. Other than that rest of their keyboards in their lineup are pretty much ignored
Discussions tends to follow when keyboards are in the news.
The Novatouch has got the most attention of CM Storm's keyboards because it is their newest one. The Quickfire Rapid and Quickfire TK got quite a lot of attention when they were relatively new.
Some keyboards by Tt eSports and Rosewill look like rebrandings of keyboard models that have already been discussed.
Many of these often come up in threads on what to buy, but there is not much new interesting to discuss about them.