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Title: Model M (?) with extra keys
Post by: Rajagra on Mon, 24 August 2009, 17:12:47
Talking of Korean keyboards (as I was in another thread) and their extra keys that would be useful for AutoHotkey or whatever, I noticed this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140330229364

No use to me because of the usual US»UK postage being much more than the item itself.

Also the space bar is too small on this one. But at least the keys should be decent.

I will probably go with this one (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130322578968) for toying with.
Title: Model M (?) with extra keys
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 24 August 2009, 17:17:20
Looks like those RS/6000 workstation keyboards, there was some discussion about them a while ago, they arent meant to be that great.
Title: Model M (?) with extra keys
Post by: Rajagra on Mon, 24 August 2009, 20:09:17
Quote from: ripster;111669
plus jesus has given them his approval. (http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=84271&postcount=12)


Title: Model M (?) with extra keys
Post by: Hak Foo on Mon, 24 August 2009, 20:51:08
Weird.  While the |\ key is | (won symbol), it seems like newer Korean keyboards tend to be ANSI layout 101 or 104s with additional markings, and it's clearly an ISO 108-109-whatever (I'm not gonna count it).

Maybe a visitor from another forum can explain.  Or maybe the extra keys are:
* A tendency to sell a Japanese-style 108-109-whatever layout to all East Asian nations
* older systems needed the extra keys; newer ones can handle the character-compositing natively.
Title: Model M (?) with extra keys
Post by: sixty on Mon, 24 August 2009, 22:54:36
The Korean Hangul IME which was released with Windows 2000(?) uses the right ALT key to switch between hanja/ascii input. The switch key is since then obsolete. Someone please correct me if that is wrong, my Korean knowledge is minimal.
Title: Model M (?) with extra keys
Post by: ohdh2003 on Tue, 25 August 2009, 01:07:41
Quote from: Rajagra;111640
Talking of Korean keyboards (as I was in another thread) and their extra keys that would be useful for AutoHotkey or whatever, I noticed this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140330229364

No use to me because of the usual US»UK postage being much more than the item itself.

Also the space bar is too small on this one. But at least the keys should be decent.

I will probably go with this one (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130322578968) for toying with.


Yes it is very old fashioned. I guess it is just borrowing japanes layout and re-marking the keycaps.
Title: Model M (?) with extra keys
Post by: ohdh2003 on Tue, 25 August 2009, 01:20:00
Quote from: sixty;111688
The Korean Hangul IME which was released with Windows 2000(?) uses the right ALT key to switch between hanja/ascii input. The switch key is since then obsolete. Someone please correct me if that is wrong, my Korean knowledge is minimal.


There are three(? honestly I am not sure, because I didn't use Windog for everyday) kinds of methods. What you said is first one, we call it type 1. (Actually it serves to input korean language using non-korean keyboard.) In type 1, right ALT represent the switch between hangul/english, while right CTRL for hanja/hangul.
IMHO, type 3 is slightly better beacause I can use right ALT, and CTRL. In type 3, switches between hangul/english and between hanja/hangul were shift-space and control-space respectively.
Title: Model M (?) with extra keys
Post by: ohdh2003 on Tue, 25 August 2009, 01:26:38
Quote from: Hak Foo;111675
Weird.  While the |\ key is | (won symbol), it seems like newer Korean keyboards tend to be ANSI layout 101 or 104s with additional markings, and it's clearly an ISO 108-109-whatever (I'm not gonna count it).

Maybe a visitor from another forum can explain.  Or maybe the extra keys are:
* A tendency to sell a Japanese-style 108-109-whatever layout to all East Asian nations
* older systems needed the extra keys; newer ones can handle the character-compositing natively.


Won sign is one of stupid thing of Korean government, IMHO.
Title: Model M (?) with extra keys
Post by: Hak Foo on Tue, 25 August 2009, 01:33:41
Quote from: ohdh2003;111706
Won sign is one of stupid thing of Korean government, IMHO.


Interesting comment.  Care to explain?

Isn't it like an American writing "$20" versus "20 dollars"?
Title: Model M (?) with extra keys
Post by: ch_123 on Tue, 25 August 2009, 05:38:48
Quote from: ripster;111669
Those RS/6000 boards don't look that bad from the pics.  Buckling spring and PC compatible.  Pretty standard internals from the blurrycam pics I've seen.

Plus Jesus Has Given Them His Approval. (http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=84271&postcount=12)

Pretty cheap way to get an Asian Buckling Spring IMHO.  Not sure about this part number though - not in Wikipedia Model M table.


Woops, meant RT 6150 (See here (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=5662&page=4)) Rubber domes as far as I know.