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Title: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: Novus on Mon, 23 February 2015, 19:17:30: Man, some of these Star Trek episodes were really cringeworthy.

The enterprise got taken over by 2 scrapped klingon bird of preys >:D
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 23 February 2015, 19:40:29: I can't even watch TNG without 1080p now.. hahaha..

season 7 finally came out in Bray.. you can get the whole set now..
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: katushkin on Mon, 23 February 2015, 19:46:56: The Blu Ray versions are the best things ever.
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: Novus on Mon, 23 February 2015, 19:47:41: You remember the first episode where the phaser comes out of the wrong place.
God I'm such a nerd right now.
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: Michael on Mon, 23 February 2015, 19:55:39: Quote from: katushkin on Mon, 23 February 2015, 19:46:56
The Blu Ray versions are the best things ever.

Truth.
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: katushkin on Mon, 23 February 2015, 19:57:09: Quote from: the1onewolf on Mon, 23 February 2015, 19:47:41
You remember the first episode where the phaser comes out of the wrong place.
God I'm such a nerd right now.

It's all about the exploding head at the end of the first season...
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 23 February 2015, 20:08:49: I just could never get excited about TNG.

They tried to replace Spock with 4 separate actors and still could not pull it off.

Of the original crop of movies, I liked the first one, for its pompousness, and the whale one, because it captured the silly camp of the original series.

Now I have teenage kids, and have watched the new re-boot, which I hated at first. After 2-3 viewings, I have come to like the first one pretty well, although the 2nd still sucks because I was sick of Khan from the beginning.
And Sherlock = Khan? Give me a f*cking break!
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: Michael on Mon, 23 February 2015, 20:15:54: Quote from: fohat.digs on Mon, 23 February 2015, 20:08:49
I just could never get excited about TNG.

They tried to replace Spock with 4 separate actors and still could not pull it off.

Of the original crop of movies, I liked the first one, for its pompousness, and the whale one, because it captured the silly camp of the original series.

Now I have teenage kids, and have watched the new re-boot, which I hated at first. After 2-3 viewings, I have come to like the first one pretty well, although the 2nd still sucks because I was sick of Khan from the beginning.
And Sherlock = Khan? Give me a f*cking break!

Ehhhhh.... Data was the replacement for Spock and he was great, imo.
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: neverused on Mon, 23 February 2015, 20:53:17: I'm actually in the process of watching these episodes, I missed them the first time as a kid. They're not bad if you take them at face value, but I'm still in the first season.
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 23 February 2015, 21:22:15: Quote from: Bro Caps on Mon, 23 February 2015, 20:15:54
Data was the replacement for Spock and he was great, imo.

Horse hockey.

Spock was: (1) first officer, (2) science officer ("alien"), (3) mind-reader, (4) master of logic

Riker + Worf + Troi + Data = less than Spock
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: Novus on Mon, 23 February 2015, 21:45:00: Actually you're forgetting it's a Trio
You remember that scene where they read Kirk's message in Tholian web?
Spock = Heavy logic
McCoy = Heavy intuition
Kirk = balancing act roaming space STDS Canadian Midwesterner.

TNG didn't establish it's dynamic for quite some time
Geordi became chief engineer.
Riker grew a beard.
Troi stopped saying the incredibly obvious.
Wesley got kicked off and expelled.
Data stopped using contractions.
Picard stopped being an awkward French.
Crusher got demoted.

Also TNG had plot issues.
Klingons apparently joined the Federation but this was retconned shortly later.
Romulans weren't supposed to return but they did when the viewer ship ratings were stagnating.
etc etc
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: Michael on Mon, 23 February 2015, 21:45:41: Quote from: fohat.digs on Mon, 23 February 2015, 21:22:15
Quote from: Bro Caps on Mon, 23 February 2015, 20:15:54
Data was the replacement for Spock and he was great, imo.

Horse hockey.

Spock was: (1) first officer, (2) science officer ("alien"), (3) mind-reader, (4) master of logic

Riker + Worf + Troi + Data = less than Spock

But you seem to have forgotten that Data was a human computer, with vast amounts of knowledge, superhuman strength and abilities, ability to fill in any role in Starfleet (and just about has)

and last but not least:

(http://i.imgur.com/tL4M1af.png)
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Mon, 23 February 2015, 21:56:54: ...and troi was a cake

(http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/24100000/Phantasms-counselor-deanna-troi-24184971-694-530.jpg)
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: Michael on Mon, 23 February 2015, 22:01:36: Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Mon, 23 February 2015, 21:56:54
...and troi was a cake

Show Image
(http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/24100000/Phantasms-counselor-deanna-troi-24184971-694-530.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/psekO3B.gif)
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: Novus on Mon, 23 February 2015, 22:02:28: Ice Cream Cake of course.
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Mon, 23 February 2015, 22:13:59
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 24 February 2015, 05:07:18: Quote from: Bro Caps on Mon, 23 February 2015, 19:55:39
Quote from: katushkin on Mon, 23 February 2015, 19:46:56
The Blu Ray versions are the best things ever.

Truth.

Well, I think there's at least 1 reason to collect the DVD set..

Because basically for the Bray they went in and aggressively painted in blacks, because the film rolls back then had bad low light performance.

So, what ends up happening is we got alot of black-crush in the Bray..

For example, the Hair looks much more detailed on the DVD.. but on the Bluray, everyone has this muted digitally smoothed out hair.

We also lost some texture detail (probably not important)..

Overall.. the updated CGI really modernizes the show.. though now it looks just a little camp because of the contrast in detail levels..
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 24 February 2015, 05:08:55: Did troi smoke.. I didn't notice until I watched the bray, she has all these upper lip wrinkles..
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: Findecanor on Tue, 24 February 2015, 06:45:22: Quote from: tp4tissue on Tue, 24 February 2015, 05:08:55
Did troi smoke.. I didn't notice until I watched the bray, she has all these upper lip wrinkles..
I've seen the actress smoke in real life...
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 24 February 2015, 06:54:31: This thread makes me want a microwave sandwich.
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 24 February 2015, 11:37:40: Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 24 February 2015, 06:54:31
This thread makes me want a microwave sandwich.

everything + microwave = futuristic..
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 24 February 2015, 11:43:25: Quote from: tp4tissue on Tue, 24 February 2015, 11:37:40
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 24 February 2015, 06:54:31
This thread makes me want a microwave sandwich.

everything + microwave = futuristic..

I just remember when I was a kid I would come home from school watch TNG and eat a microwave sandwich, then play tetris.
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 24 February 2015, 11:51:31: I did not watch much TV in the 1970s and 1980s anyway, but what is a "microwave sandwich"?
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 24 February 2015, 12:02:40: Quote from: fohat.digs on Tue, 24 February 2015, 11:51:31
I did not watch much TV in the 1970s and 1980s anyway, but what is a "microwave sandwich"?

Something like this

(http://i.imgur.com/lTXWYiB.jpg)
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 24 February 2015, 17:12:56: Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 24 February 2015, 12:02:40
Quote from: fohat.digs on Tue, 24 February 2015, 11:51:31
I did not watch much TV in the 1970s and 1980s anyway, but what is a "microwave sandwich"?

Something like this

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/lTXWYiB.jpg)

You're ruining people's diets spam...
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: Novus on Tue, 24 February 2015, 17:14:42: 1.99
Mhmmmm baby

In the future with replicators and no money (aside from latinum and the kind the federation uses to bribe other races) I wonder if hamburgers taste any good.

Seriously I love how they say no money in Star Trek ... And didn't completely think it through.
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: eth0s on Tue, 24 February 2015, 17:41:51: I'm still mad that Darth Vader turned out to be Luke's father. Lame. Oh. Sry. Spoiler Alert?

Data was the new and improved Spock.

Data vs. Spock in a battle to the death: Who wins? Data in everything. Strength, memory, intelligence, leaping ability, logic. What if you pushed Data and Spock out of the Enterprise air lock? Who would live? Umm, Data.

Also, Q. I dunno. Do i like?

Klingons. Still the kewlest. Love to speak Klingon. Way better than Elvish. Favorite Klingon Proverb? "Act, and you may eat dinner. Think, and you may be dinner." ~ Worf.

Also Worf was the new Wookie. Only he could speak English.
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: paicrai on Tue, 24 February 2015, 17:42:54: Quote from: eth0s on Tue, 24 February 2015, 17:41:51
I'm still mad that Darth Vader turned out to be Luke's father. Lame. Oh. Sry. Spoiler Alert?

Data was the new and improved Spock.

Data vs. Spock in a battle to the death: Who wins? Data in everything. Strength, memory, intelligence, leaping ability, logic. What if you pushed Data and Spock out of the Enterprise air lock? Who would live? Umm, Data.

Also, Q. I dunno. Do i like?

Klingons. Still the kewlest. Love to speak Klingon. Way better than Elvish. Favorite Klingon Proverb? "Act, and you may eat dinner. Think, and you may be dinner." ~ Worf.

Also Worf was the new Wookie. Only he could speak English.
the covenant is really cool though
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: Novus on Tue, 24 February 2015, 17:43:58: Quote from: eth0s on Tue, 24 February 2015, 17:41:51
I'm still mad that Darth Vader turned out to be Luke's father. Lame. Oh. Sry. Spoiler Alert?

Data was the new and improved Spock.

Data vs. Spock in a battle to the death: Who wins? Data in everything. Strength, memory, intelligence, leaping ability, logic. What if you pushed Data and Spock out of the Enterprise air lock? Who would live? Umm, Data.

Also, Q. I dunno. Do i like?

Klingons. Still the kewlest. Love to speak Klingon. Way better than Elvish. Favorite Klingon Proverb? "Act, and you may eat dinner. Think, and you may be dinner." ~ Worf.

Also Worf was the new Wookie. Only he could speak English.

I dunno about you but I for one am glad they showed off Padme's belly
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 24 February 2015, 17:46:48: The Starwars universe isn't nearly as well defined as the Trek Universe..

That's why I could never get into it....
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: Novus on Tue, 24 February 2015, 18:22:01: Quote from: tp4tissue on Tue, 24 February 2015, 17:46:48
The Starwars universe isn't nearly as well defined as the Trek Universe..

That's why I could never get into it....

One thing is common though.
Jedi are about as powerful and consistent as the federation though :p
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: YoungMichael88 on Tue, 24 February 2015, 18:29:43: Data > Spock
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: YoungMichael88 on Tue, 24 February 2015, 18:30:22: Picard > Kirk
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: Michael on Tue, 24 February 2015, 18:31:45: Quote from: YoungMichael88 on Tue, 24 February 2015, 18:30:22
Picard > Kirk

Quote from: YoungMichael88 on Tue, 24 February 2015, 18:29:43
Data > Spock

Truth
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: YoungMichael88 on Tue, 24 February 2015, 18:32:50: Quote from: Bro Caps on Tue, 24 February 2015, 18:31:45
Quote from: YoungMichael88 on Tue, 24 February 2015, 18:30:22
Picard > Kirk

Quote from: YoungMichael88 on Tue, 24 February 2015, 18:29:43
Data > Spock

Truth
TNG was my after school ritual as well. It was a few episodes of TNG then a snack and a nap. Every day.
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: noisyturtle on Tue, 24 February 2015, 18:38:23: Star Trek is boring. This thread is boring me.
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: Michael on Tue, 24 February 2015, 18:41:46: Quote from: noisyturtle on Tue, 24 February 2015, 18:38:23
Star Trek is boring. This thread is boring me.

(http://i.imgur.com/hjYKHJo.jpg)
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 24 February 2015, 19:19:02: Quote from: YoungMichael88 on Tue, 24 February 2015, 18:32:50

Quote from: Bro Caps on Tue, 24 February 2015, 18:31:45
Quote from: YoungMichael88 on Tue, 24 February 2015, 18:30:22
Picard > Kirk

Quote from: YoungMichael88 on Tue, 24 February 2015, 18:29:43
Data > Spock

Truth
TNG was my after school ritual as well. It was a few episodes of TNG then a snack and a nap. Every day.

This was how I got really fat.. It was eating 2 packs of twinkies + dragonball + nap..
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 24 February 2015, 19:38:58: Yeah, I watched Star Trek when I was in High School, too, but it came on in prime time.

The ONLY thing better about the Next Generation was the women.
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 24 February 2015, 19:47:19: Quote from: fohat.digs on Tue, 24 February 2015, 19:38:58
Yeah, I watched Star Trek when I was in High School, too, but it came on in prime time.

The ONLY thing better about the Next Generation was the women.

they all look much much older on Bluray.... (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_001_-v2.gif)
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 24 February 2015, 19:48:17: Quote from: Bro Caps on Tue, 24 February 2015, 18:41:46
Quote from: noisyturtle on Tue, 24 February 2015, 18:38:23
Star Trek is boring. This thread is boring me.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/hjYKHJo.jpg)

well,, TOS is pretty boring by modern standards... but If it had been the first sci-fi show i'd ever seen.. It'd still be pretty solid...
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 24 February 2015, 20:05:12: Quote from: tp4tissue on Tue, 24 February 2015, 19:47:19
they all look much much older on Bluray.

Duh!

They are around my age.
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: Novus on Tue, 24 February 2015, 20:31:31: Obviously Janeway and Sisko > Picard and Kirk.
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: YoungMichael88 on Tue, 24 February 2015, 21:01:17: Quote from: fohat.digs on Tue, 24 February 2015, 19:38:58
Yeah, I watched Star Trek when I was in High School, too, but it came on in prime time.

The ONLY thing better about the Next Generation was the women.
Not quite up there with 7 of 9 tho!
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 24 February 2015, 21:09:35: T'Pol > 7 of 9
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: Novus on Wed, 25 February 2015, 02:17:36: Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 24 February 2015, 21:09:35
T'Pol > 7 of 9

T'pol > Teal'c
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 25 February 2015, 08:53:05: Quote from: the1onewolf on Wed, 25 February 2015, 02:17:36
Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 24 February 2015, 21:09:35
T'Pol > 7 of 9

T'pol > Teal'c

#8 > T'pol > Teal'c

(http://images1.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Grace-Park-Maxim-2005-grace-park-908457_1280_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: YoungMichael88 on Wed, 04 March 2015, 14:51:09: Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 24 February 2015, 21:09:35
T'Pol > 7 of 9
I just don't find myself attracted to Vulcans. Or Romulus for that matter. It might be the hair.
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: YoungMichael88 on Wed, 04 March 2015, 14:53:00: Quote from: the1onewolf on Wed, 25 February 2015, 02:17:36
Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 24 February 2015, 21:09:35
T'Pol > 7 of 9

T'pol > Teal'c
You take your Stargate **** right outa here!
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: Novus on Wed, 04 March 2015, 14:55:17: Quote from: YoungMichael88 on Wed, 04 March 2015, 14:53:00

Quote from: the1onewolf on Wed, 25 February 2015, 02:17:36
Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 24 February 2015, 21:09:35
T'Pol > 7 of 9

T'pol > Teal'c
You take your Stargate **** right outa here!

Wait ... you gonna let the BSG slide?
Comon, at least T'pol was in stargate
Title: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: YoungMichael88 on Wed, 04 March 2015, 14:57:53: Quote from: the1onewolf on Wed, 04 March 2015, 14:55:17
Quote from: YoungMichael88 on Wed, 04 March 2015, 14:53:00

Quote from: the1onewolf on Wed, 25 February 2015, 02:17:36
Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 24 February 2015, 21:09:35
T'Pol > 7 of 9

T'pol > Teal'c
You take your Stargate **** right outa here!

Wait ... you gonna let the BSG slide?
Comon, at least T'pol was in stargate
Oh crap!! I didn't see that! Hell no! OUT!! Saw t'pol and hit that quote button!
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: Novus on Wed, 04 March 2015, 14:58:48: Trip went over to Atlantis and so did the EHM.
Konspiracy.
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: Findecanor on Wed, 04 March 2015, 18:03:26: Quote from: the1onewolf on Wed, 04 March 2015, 14:55:17
Wait ... you gonna let the BSG slide?
Comon, at least T'pol was in stargate
Eehh... The actress played a female warrior in Stargate SG1. The character wasn't even close to resembling a Vulcan. And Teal'c > Ishta !
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 04 March 2015, 18:50:42: I would take a spaceship full of naked #8s any time.
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 04 March 2015, 18:53:33: Quote from: fohat.digs on Wed, 04 March 2015, 18:50:42
I would take a spaceship full of naked #8s any time.

well you would want some variety...

too much of any good thing gets boring..
Title: Re: Star Trek the Cringeworthy Generation
Post by: Novus on Wed, 04 March 2015, 18:56:39: Quote from: Findecanor on Wed, 04 March 2015, 18:03:26
Quote from: the1onewolf on Wed, 04 March 2015, 14:55:17
Wait ... you gonna let the BSG slide?
Comon, at least T'pol was in stargate
Eehh... The actress played a female warrior in Stargate SG1.

Yeaaa no **** **** counselor Troi :p
I mean comon, I'm not going to write Jolene Blalock