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Title: Most important skill to have?
Post by: Novus on Mon, 02 March 2015, 14:22:04
What do you think is the most important skill to have in life?
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Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 02 March 2015, 14:24:50
hope
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Post by: Melvang on Mon, 02 March 2015, 14:28:36
Optimisim

It has actually been shown to help prolong life and increase quality of life
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Post by: byker on Mon, 02 March 2015, 14:30:00
Communication.
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Post by: baldgye on Mon, 02 March 2015, 14:35:40
Being a millionaire is a pretty good skill.
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Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 02 March 2015, 14:36:59
keeping track of when to take my meds

cause when i didn't do that some not so great things happened
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Post by: Novus on Mon, 02 March 2015, 14:37:30
Being a millionaire is a pretty good skill.

No I don't think that does you much good in Zimbabwe.
Aim higher.
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Post by: Melvang on Mon, 02 March 2015, 14:41:12
being able to rebuild an F
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Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 02 March 2015, 14:42:47
For the majority of people  Algebra..

Highest recommended,   diff eq, linear-alg..

That's prettttty much everything you'll need to know in life that's readily applicable..


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Post by: exitfire401 on Mon, 02 March 2015, 14:44:01
Flash to juke the jungler.

In all seriousness though, the ability to create an elevator pitch. Being able to convey something complex in a matter of minutes/seconds can be invaluable. It's gotten me more work offers than I can count over the years and has also helped improve my public speaking ability as a whole because I know more of what people want to hear out of my presentations.
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Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 02 March 2015, 14:45:16
Turning stacks to racks. And being able to count it properly.
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Post by: exitfire401 on Mon, 02 March 2015, 14:46:29
For the majority of people  Algebra..

Highest recommended,   diff eq, linear-alg..

That's prettttty much everything you'll need to know in life that's readily applicable..

Diff eq can go **** itself. That and calc are the reason I was not an IT major...
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Post by: tbc on Mon, 02 March 2015, 14:47:41
For the majority of people  Algebra..

Highest recommended,   diff eq, linear-alg..

That's prettttty much everything you'll need to know in life that's readily applicable..

Diff eq can go **** itself. That and calc are the reason I was not an IT major...

what on earth does calc have to do with IT?  it was actually a mandatory course?
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Post by: exitfire401 on Mon, 02 March 2015, 14:49:22
For the majority of people  Algebra..

Highest recommended,   diff eq, linear-alg..

That's prettttty much everything you'll need to know in life that's readily applicable..

Diff eq can go **** itself. That and calc are the reason I was not an IT major...

what on earth does calc have to do with IT?  it was actually a mandatory course?

Yup...I hate this school...
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Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 02 March 2015, 14:50:48
calc is why i'm considering doing stuff other than IT

i ****ing hate advanced maths

i dropped calc and started a non-euclidian geometry course that's been aight so far
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Post by: limitz on Mon, 02 March 2015, 14:52:48
Life-long learning: Constantly learning, and growing as a person in both tangible, and intangible (soft) skills. This includes knowing how to dig information up for yourself when stuck.
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Post by: tbc on Mon, 02 March 2015, 14:59:39
calc is why i'm considering doing stuff other than IT

i ****ing hate advanced maths

i dropped calc and started a non-euclidian geometry course that's been aight so far

calc has nothing to do with IT...
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Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 02 March 2015, 15:01:07
calc is why i'm considering doing stuff other than IT

i ****ing hate advanced maths

i dropped calc and started a non-euclidian geometry course that's been aight so far

calc has nothing to do with IT...

yeah but most schools make you do it if you do an IT/engineering major

which is applicable to me, since i'm probably gonna do one of those
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Post by: baldgye on Mon, 02 March 2015, 15:02:06
Being a millionaire is a pretty good skill.

No I don't think that does you much good in Zimbabwe.
Aim higher.

Optimisim and communication wont do you much good in a North Korean prison camp, so do they need to aim higher too?
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Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 02 March 2015, 15:03:25
calc is why i'm considering doing stuff other than IT

i ****ing hate advanced maths

i dropped calc and started a non-euclidian geometry course that's been aight so far

calc has nothing to do with IT...

Calculus was my first math class, first semester of college, they said it was to 'weed' people out who didn't belong at the school.
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Post by: tbc on Mon, 02 March 2015, 15:05:23
calc is why i'm considering doing stuff other than IT

i ****ing hate advanced maths

i dropped calc and started a non-euclidian geometry course that's been aight so far

calc has nothing to do with IT...

Calculus was my first math class, first semester of college, they said it was to 'weed' people out who didn't belong at the school.

are all american schools like this?  finding a good school is absolutely the most important part of education.

we had to take discrete mathematics, but there was no dedicated 'calc' course.
Title: Re: Most important skill to have?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 02 March 2015, 15:06:06
calc is why i'm considering doing stuff other than IT

i ****ing hate advanced maths

i dropped calc and started a non-euclidian geometry course that's been aight so far

calc has nothing to do with IT...

Calculus was my first math class, first semester of college, they said it was to 'weed' people out who didn't belong at the school.

are all american schools like this?

we had to take discrete mathematics, but there was no dedicated 'calc' course.

As was mentioned above I think it happens more in engineering programs.
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Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 02 March 2015, 15:08:20
calc is why i'm considering doing stuff other than IT

i ****ing hate advanced maths

i dropped calc and started a non-euclidian geometry course that's been aight so far

calc has nothing to do with IT...

Calculus was my first math class, first semester of college, they said it was to 'weed' people out who didn't belong at the school.

are all american schools like this?  finding a good school is absolutely the most important part of education.

we had to take discrete mathematics, but there was no dedicated 'calc' course.

different schools / different countries  call it different things..

but generally, if you know ur diff/int rules, your test rules, basic 3-D  in america that's calc 1-2 and 3..


There's no precise thing as "discrete" math..  so  if that's what the course is called,  it can actually be any number of things..

Title: Re: Most important skill to have?
Post by: paicrai on Mon, 02 March 2015, 15:15:18
kickflips
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Post by: tbc on Mon, 02 March 2015, 15:17:57
calc is why i'm considering doing stuff other than IT

i ****ing hate advanced maths

i dropped calc and started a non-euclidian geometry course that's been aight so far

calc has nothing to do with IT...

Calculus was my first math class, first semester of college, they said it was to 'weed' people out who didn't belong at the school.

are all american schools like this?  finding a good school is absolutely the most important part of education.

we had to take discrete mathematics, but there was no dedicated 'calc' course.

different schools / different countries  call it different things..

but generally, if you know ur diff/int rules, your test rules, basic 3-D  in america that's calc 1-2 and 3..


There's no precise thing as "discrete" math..  so  if that's what the course is called,  it can actually be any number of things..

it was a bunch of the subtopics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrete_mathematics

like 75% of that.

the course was there to help with studying and validating algorithms rather than to count against a math degree.
Title: Re: Most important skill to have?
Post by: demik on Mon, 02 March 2015, 15:30:32
change a ****ing flat tire
Title: Re: Most important skill to have?
Post by: paicrai on Mon, 02 March 2015, 15:35:24
kickflip a ****ing flat tire
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Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 02 March 2015, 15:40:54
kickflip a ****ing flat tire

HAHAHAHA..  Now I just picture a juxtaposition of Pai walking down the street doing invisible skateboard tricks.. while all the boring normal people live like zombies walking towards the slow death that is their job...

Also.. relevant ...  Drop-Kicks..   I still need to practice mine..  but I don't have a mat..
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Post by: paicrai on Mon, 02 March 2015, 15:45:29
drop-kickflips
boom



im excited for summer  :-[
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Post by: Novus on Mon, 02 March 2015, 15:49:18
change a ****ing flat tire

In the ****ing dark!
Title: Re: Most important skill to have?
Post by: Novus on Mon, 02 March 2015, 15:50:48
Being a millionaire is a pretty good skill.

No I don't think that does you much good in Zimbabwe.
Aim higher.

Optimisim and communication wont do you much good in a North Korean prison camp, so do they need to aim higher too?

Actually if you ever watched interviews and documentaries about interment or prison camps they always talk about optimism and family. People that survived those sort of ordeals don't need to aim higher, they're already pretty high.
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Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 02 March 2015, 15:50:49
change a ****ing flat tire

In the ****ing dark!


While intoxicated...... 
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Post by: demik on Mon, 02 March 2015, 15:52:36
change a ****ing flat tire

In the ****ing dark!


While intoxicated...... 

how intoxicated tho
Title: Re: Most important skill to have?
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 02 March 2015, 15:53:22
If there were a skill I regret not focusing more on it would be programming. When I started I automatically lumped programming in with mathematics(my most hated of all the proof-of-concept sciences) and gradually built a deep hatred for it because of that. Now it's like mental torture every time I have to comb through code, or god forbid, write some of my own.
Title: Re: Most important skill to have?
Post by: Joey Quinn on Mon, 02 March 2015, 15:53:41
Having a good grasp of what you're capable of, also the confidence to push yourself past where you feel comfortable.
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Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 02 March 2015, 15:55:30
Having a good grasp of what you're capable of, also the confidence to push yourself past where you feel comfortable.

I find a lot of younger people getting into the workforce these days have an overabundance of confidence paired with a lack of skill and drive.
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Post by: keymaster on Mon, 02 March 2015, 15:56:18
Common sense is greatly underappreciated.
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Post by: Findecanor on Mon, 02 March 2015, 15:59:03
Being able to persuade others (to hire you, give you a raise, sleep with you, etc.)
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Post by: Joey Quinn on Mon, 02 March 2015, 16:03:39
Having a good grasp of what you're capable of, also the confidence to push yourself past where you feel comfortable.

I find a lot of younger people getting into the workforce these days have an overabundance of confidence paired with a lack of skill and drive.

I'd like to think I'm not cocky at work. I totally agree with what you said, I work with the son of one of my companie's presidents and the dude has no work ethic. He spends half the day napping and smoking weed.
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Post by: Sygaldry on Mon, 02 March 2015, 16:04:20
Discrete mathematics and logic were the two most useful courses I took during my first time around in college. Calc 3, on the other hand) was utterly useless to me in my first career in the legal (slave/forced labor) industry.

From law school, contracts has been pretty damned useful (everything else in law school was a huge waste of time). At least Contracta has helped me decipher the boilerplate contracts attached to everything these days.
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Post by: Karura on Mon, 02 March 2015, 17:03:59
The ability to hire people who are better than you at certain things.
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Post by: Jokrik on Mon, 02 March 2015, 17:15:02
^ dat

And flirting
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Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Mon, 02 March 2015, 17:17:03
common sense

/thread
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Post by: baldgye on Mon, 02 March 2015, 17:55:33
Being a millionaire is a pretty good skill.

No I don't think that does you much good in Zimbabwe.
Aim higher.

Optimisim and communication wont do you much good in a North Korean prison camp, so do they need to aim higher too?

Actually if you ever watched interviews and documentaries about interment or prison camps they always talk about optimism and family. People that survived those sort of ordeals don't need to aim higher, they're already pretty high.

True I guess, I mean its not like North Korean labour camps imprison you, your children and your children's children.
Though back to your point, if you were a relative millionaire (realative even in cheap ass American dorras, this being a yankie site and all) I'm pretty sure you'd be set in Zimbabwe, assuming you were black... and if not you could probably afford to get yourself out.

:)
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Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 02 March 2015, 18:20:46
dang..  almost forgot..

Typing speed..  !!


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Title: Re: Most important skill to have?
Post by: Novus on Mon, 02 March 2015, 18:23:39
common sense

/thread

common sense

/thread

Humility might also be one ;)
Mr. /thread
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Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Mon, 02 March 2015, 18:46:29
common sense

/thread

common sense

/thread

Humility might also be one ;)
Mr. /thread

touché
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Post by: paicrai on Mon, 02 March 2015, 18:47:03
common sense

/thread

common sense

/thread

Humility might also be one ;)
Mr. /thread

touché
/kickflips
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Post by: PointyFox on Mon, 02 March 2015, 19:15:10
Being in the right place at the right time.
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Post by: Korth on Mon, 02 March 2015, 19:17:54
Forget hope and optimism.  Paranoia is the mindset that work best.
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Post by: cmadrid on Mon, 02 March 2015, 20:38:23
Critical thinking skills.. you can teach yourself almost anything online these days.  You can audit free classes from some of the best schools in the world, for free
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Post by: cmadrid on Mon, 02 March 2015, 20:39:04
Oh, and being self motivated.. I'm just terrible at that =/
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Post by: Sygaldry on Mon, 02 March 2015, 20:51:39
Oh, and being self motivated.. I'm just terrible at that =/
Self Motivation is overrated.
The world would be a much simpler place if everyone would just squander their innate talents and do nothing all day  :cool:
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Post by: jacobolus on Mon, 02 March 2015, 21:10:49
For the majority of people  Algebra.. Highest recommended, diff eq, linear-alg.. That's prettttty much everything you'll need to know in life that's readily applicable..
Solving differential equations is fun enough, but I agree with you that algebra is a better skill. In particular, everyone should learn to bust out nice proofs and show off their commutative diagram drawing skills.

I recommend the Snake Lemma, because it has a cool name, takes a nifty/elegant proof, involves really nice commutative diagrams, is pretty useful in graduate level mathematics, and because its proof showed up in the 1980 film It’s My Turn, perhaps the only time some real mathematics showed up in a Hollywood picture.

I mean, check this out:
(https://concretenonsense.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/aaaaa-011.jpg)
(taping a snake to the diagram is optional)

For those not into algebra, differential geometry proofs are an okay alternative. Riemannian manifolds are cool.
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Post by: calvinhousecat on Mon, 02 March 2015, 21:17:35
change a ****ing flat tire

One night when I came out of work, there was this guy with this nice ass BMW who had to call a tow truck and get a guy to change the flat tire on his BMW.

Can spend over 30 grand on a BMW but doesn't take 30 minutes of his time to learn how to change a tire

zzzz people are so lazy
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Post by: Novus on Mon, 02 March 2015, 21:20:28
change a ****ing flat tire

One night when I came out of work, there was this guy with this nice ass BMW who had to call a tow truck and get a guy to change the flat tire on his BMW.

Can spend over 30 grand on a BMW but doesn't take 30 minutes of his time to learn how to change a tire

zzzz people are so lazy

Sounds like San Diego ;)
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Post by: demik on Mon, 02 March 2015, 21:37:14
change a ****ing flat tire

One night when I came out of work, there was this guy with this nice ass BMW who had to call a tow truck and get a guy to change the flat tire on his BMW.

Can spend over 30 grand on a BMW but doesn't take 30 minutes of his time to learn how to change a tire

zzzz people are so lazy

well, it depends tbh.

if im paying a yearly service you're damn sure im going to use it. i've had onstar on my truck and had to use it for a tire change, because i had **** to do at work and couldn't take the time to change it myself.

but, triple A can be slow. so i'd probably end up doing it myself if i had nothing else to do and just wanted to keep going.

point is, tire change should be a requirement to get your license. you benefit from it and you can help others if need be.
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Post by: Novus on Mon, 02 March 2015, 21:39:30
Help others?
PSH other people only help you if you're a hot chick.
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Post by: demik on Mon, 02 March 2015, 21:40:23
white knights will only help you if you're a hot chick*
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Post by: Novus on Mon, 02 March 2015, 21:42:08
Fortunately, I'm a black knight.
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Post by: demik on Mon, 02 March 2015, 21:43:25
the blackest
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Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 02 March 2015, 22:49:21
change a ****ing flat tire

One night when I came out of work, there was this guy with this nice ass BMW who had to call a tow truck and get a guy to change the flat tire on his BMW.

Can spend over 30 grand on a BMW but doesn't take 30 minutes of his time to learn how to change a tire

zzzz people are so lazy

well on some mercedes, they got those bolts now that are very hard to put on by oneself because you gotta hold the tire up or get it at the perfect height to mate with the jack..

i'm not sure if bmw has them too..
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Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 02 March 2015, 22:56:07
How to not **** your pants.
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Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 02 March 2015, 22:56:29
How to not **** your pants.

Still working on that one, huh?
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Post by: iri on Tue, 03 March 2015, 02:31:17
point is, tire change should be a requirement to get your license. you benefit from it and you can help others if need be.
the ability to drive well should be a requirement #1.
doesn't seem to be like that in a bunch of countries.
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Post by: smknjoe on Tue, 03 March 2015, 02:45:34
Oh, and being self motivated.. I'm just terrible at that =/
Critical thinking skills.. you can teach yourself almost anything online these days.  You can audit free classes from some of the best schools in the world, for free


...aka problem solving.


Where in the world do you have to take Calc for IT degrees? It was only required for science and engineering when I was in school. MIS (Management of Information Systems) was a business degree and may have required business Calc at the most (I'm not sure since I was a science/engineering CS major) which is not like regular Calculus at all. I can't imagine why you would ever need Calculus in IT.

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Post by: tbc on Tue, 03 March 2015, 03:09:08
Oh, and being self motivated.. I'm just terrible at that =/
Critical thinking skills.. you can teach yourself almost anything online these days.  You can audit free classes from some of the best schools in the world, for free


...aka problem solving.


Where in the world do you have to take Calc for IT degrees? It was only required for science and engineering when I was in school. MIS (Management of Information Systems) was a business degree and may have required business Calc at the most (I'm not sure since I was a science/engineering CS major) which is not like regular Calculus at all. I can't imagine why you would ever need Calculus in IT.

USA from what everyone above was telling me.

i can only imagine it was setup by admins that don't actually program and assume math = computers = programming.
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Post by: smknjoe on Tue, 03 March 2015, 03:20:28
I'm in the US.

Programming is a Computer Science discipline (engineering/science). IT/MIS is/was considered a business degree with a technical emphasis. I don't know many people in IT that actually do much, if any, programming. I think there may be some confusion as to what is what.
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Post by: tbc on Tue, 03 March 2015, 03:28:32
I'm in the US.

Programming is a Computer Science discipline (engineering/science). IT/MIS is/was considered a business degree with a technical emphasis. I don't know many people in IT that actually do much, if any, programming. I think there may be some confusion as to what is what.

man...schools in the usa are so weird....

at my trade school, IT was network and computer security* with a secondary emphasis on programming (kinda hard to figure out security issues with programs in real life if you don't understand a lick of even java) .  there was only a single entrepreneurship business course that was shared with the programmers.

*both hardware and software.


programming and computer science are considered separate things in BC, Canada at least.  although there is a chicken and egg program where universities don't want to create a program where its graduates won't get a sellable title and companies aren't going to ask for a degree that doesn't exist.
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Post by: smknjoe on Tue, 03 March 2015, 03:41:42
I think that some level of programming/application design is taught in most high schools and degree programs now like "Computer Applications in Engineering" which teaches VB to engineering students. I have a niece that took some Java and HTML classes in high school. That doesn't mean that the student understands software engineering. It's not the same. Not even close.
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Post by: tbc on Tue, 03 March 2015, 03:48:00
I think that some level of programming/application design is taught in most high schools and degree programs now like "Computer Applications in Engineering" which teaches VB to engineering students. I have a niece that took some Java and HTML classes in high school. That doesn't mean that the student understands software engineering. It's not the same. Not even close.

what exactly is the appeal of a company hiring an 'IT graduate' over a 'business analyst'?

in Canada, it's exceedingly clear, the IT grad guy is the one that gets called to setup the computers.  definitively tech support.  no excel, no customer contact.

you're saying that the IT grad in the US will have to 'balance spreadsheets' and provide tech support?

EDIT:

is there actually a specific curriculm online that you're referring to?

EDIT2:

i'm curious because this might have some serious repercussions on salary comparisons.
Title: Re: Most important skill to have?
Post by: smknjoe on Tue, 03 March 2015, 03:56:48


You can see the difference between MIS and CS and even CIS here: http://www.uh.edu/academics/majors-minors/majors/

When people say "IT" they are typically referring to MIS and CIS.
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Post by: smknjoe on Tue, 03 March 2015, 03:57:50
I never said anything about spreadsheets.
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Post by: Oobly on Tue, 03 March 2015, 04:34:16
Wisdom and understanding. Coupled with faith, hope and love.
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Post by: TheSoulhunter on Tue, 03 March 2015, 05:53:04
Psychological manipulation / Seduction (not necessarily the one that gets you laid)
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Post by: XMIT on Tue, 03 March 2015, 06:02:09
Just in general: grit, or sisu.
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Post by: katushkin on Tue, 03 March 2015, 06:15:54
A sense of humour.
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Post by: osi on Tue, 03 March 2015, 06:24:06
Patience
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Post by: paicrai on Tue, 03 March 2015, 09:56:12
kickflipping brains
ftfy you ****ing nerd
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Post by: JPG on Tue, 03 March 2015, 09:59:40
Being able to convince people to do stuff for you and still give you credit for it.


Also, being Chuck Norris should be enough :)
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Post by: dante on Tue, 03 March 2015, 10:02:56
The ability to quiet your mind; and also see that everything in this universe is temporary.
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Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 03 March 2015, 11:16:27
Nunchuck skills.
Bowhunting skills.
Computer hacking skills.
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Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 03 March 2015, 11:27:09
Nunchuck skills.
Bowhunting skills.
Computer hacking skills.

This requires PCI-Bus.. we all know dis' is the fastest bus..


They should make a new hackers movie, and throw in a line about pci-express for funsies..
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Post by: vivalarevolución on Tue, 03 March 2015, 12:02:33
The ability to think about what's important.
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Post by: iri on Tue, 03 March 2015, 12:26:40
Psychic manipulation / Seduction (not necessarily the one that gets you laid)
Stasi, is that you?
Title: Re: Most important skill to have?
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Tue, 03 March 2015, 15:51:55
Psychic manipulation / Seduction (not necessarily the one that gets you laid)
Stasi, is that you?

Psst comrade, Враг слышит!