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Title: any bets on the switches in upcoming TP3?
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 31 August 2009, 14:57:38
So matias says its Tactile Pro 3 is coming out this Fall.

http://www.matias.ca/tactilepro2/

Any bets on which kind of alps it will have? I figure we can get a headstart on that round of fights :-D

I wonder who will be the guniea pig to acquire one first. And how long they will sit on it before finally opening up a switch :)
Title: any bets on the switches in upcoming TP3?
Post by: msiegel on Mon, 31 August 2009, 15:03:06
Quote from: wellington1869;113450
Any bets on which kind of alps it will have?


maybe BS :lol:
Title: any bets on the switches in upcoming TP3?
Post by: timw4mail on Mon, 31 August 2009, 15:16:19
Probably those white Cherry copies. ;P
Title: any bets on the switches in upcoming TP3?
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 31 August 2009, 15:17:56
They are going to harvest them from old AEKIIs.  Just to keep it real.
Title: any bets on the switches in upcoming TP3?
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 31 August 2009, 15:24:32
Quote from: itlnstln;113460
They are going to harvest them from old AEKIIs.  Just to keep it real.


hahahaha maybe it'll ship with an old aekII on the side so you can harvest its sliders and keys ;-D  That would save a trip to ebay :-D
Title: any bets on the switches in upcoming TP3?
Post by: rdjack21 on Mon, 31 August 2009, 15:58:07
Seeing that you are asking about switches do you have any idea what are in these filco boards:

First one PS/2 dirty board but cheap:
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=4204&stc=1&d=1251751922)
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=4205&stc=1&d=1251751922)

Second board a mac filco but looks to be USB, again cheap:
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=4206&stc=1&d=1251751922)
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=4207&stc=1&d=1251751922)

And on the more expensive front we have this SIIG filco look alike:
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=4208&stc=1&d=1251751922)

Oh sorry to hijack this thread but seemed like a good place to ask. I'm really considering getting that first one but I'm not sure what kind of switches are in it. I have also seen another mini filco with black cherry switches in it but missed that one and it was more than I wanted to pay for it.
Title: any bets on the switches in upcoming TP3?
Post by: wellington1869 on Mon, 31 August 2009, 15:59:55
dude those are neat looking boards. Can you ask the seller to open up a switch? If they're real geeks they usually dont have a problem with that.
Title: any bets on the switches in upcoming TP3?
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 31 August 2009, 16:01:27
If I am not mistaken, the first two have some Alps variant.  I am not sure about the mini, though.
Title: any bets on the switches in upcoming TP3?
Post by: rdjack21 on Mon, 31 August 2009, 16:10:02
Quote from: wellington1869;113471
dude those are neat looking boards. Can you ask the seller to open up a switch? If they're real geeks they usually dont have a problem with that.


They are all on Yahoo Japan so not exactly sure how to ask them to pull a key and take a picture. The first two are 1000 yen (about 10 bucks) have no bids and are getting close to expire and was thinking what the heck. I already have some boards waiting for shipping so I could just throw them in the box with out increasing my shipping cost to much I think.

That little one already sold so really can't get it. But I had not seen a filco in that form factor before and was wondering what it was.

EDIT: Lets be honest here I was really thinking I could get them for cheap and clean them up then sell them here for a small profit:evil: if I did not like them.
Title: any bets on the switches in upcoming TP3?
Post by: erricrice on Mon, 31 August 2009, 16:42:36
Quote from: wellington1869;113450
So matias says its Tactile Pro 3 is coming out this Fall.

http://www.matias.ca/tactilepro2/

Any bets on which kind of alps it will have? I figure we can get a headstart on that round of fights :-D

I wonder who will be the guniea pig to acquire one first. And how long they will sit on it before finally opening up a switch :)


My Guess: Rainbow ALPS

Look something like this:
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=4210&stc=1&d=1251754918)
Title: any bets on the switches in upcoming TP3?
Post by: msiegel on Mon, 31 August 2009, 16:55:28
Quote from: erricrice;113479
Rainbow ALPS


that might require adding hallucinogens to the keycap plastics

hmm... :)
Title: any bets on the switches in upcoming TP3?
Post by: erricrice on Mon, 31 August 2009, 17:15:54
Quote from: msiegel;113480
that might require adding hallucinogens to the keycap plastics

hmm... :)


...You're being sucked into the ALPS vortex............

Via hallucinogenic plastics :biggrin:

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=4211&stc=1&d=1251756933)
Title: any bets on the switches in upcoming TP3?
Post by: hyperlinked on Tue, 01 September 2009, 03:14:28
Auugh! I thought they had changed the TP3 release date to Autumn 2010. They were promising it for Spring 2010 earlier this year, which was moved back from Spring 2009.

Anyway, when I thought they were delaying the release until Autumn 2010, I decided I couldn't wait that long and bought a Filco Majestouch this morning. I'm really fond of Matias' optimizer features though I realize I can just program some macros and remap some keys to achieve the same effect.

I'm sure I'll survive if I end up with two sweet keyboards. It'll be hard, I know.
Title: any bets on the switches in upcoming TP3?
Post by: hyperlinked on Tue, 01 September 2009, 03:15:37
BTW, let's hope that you don't end up having to sacrifice two USB ports to the TP3 like was done on the TP2.
Title: any bets on the switches in upcoming TP3?
Post by: rdh on Tue, 01 September 2009, 03:25:27
Sacrifice two USB ports?   How do you mean?
Title: any bets on the switches in upcoming TP3?
Post by: sixty on Tue, 01 September 2009, 03:53:54
I'm guessing they will either use Fukkas or the older XM switches.. I mean its not like there is much left that they can choose from
Title: any bets on the switches in upcoming TP3?
Post by: hyperlinked on Tue, 01 September 2009, 04:11:25
Quote from: rdh;113588
Sacrifice two USB ports?   How do you mean?


The TP2 required two USB ports.
Title: any bets on the switches in upcoming TP3?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 01 September 2009, 07:51:22
Quote from: hyperlinked;113592
The TP2 required two USB ports.

Wasn't one of the connections used for a USB hub?  DSI does something like this for their modular keyboard.
Title: any bets on the switches in upcoming TP3?
Post by: wellington1869 on Tue, 01 September 2009, 08:36:07
Quote from: hyperlinked;113586
Auugh! I thought they had changed the TP3 release date to Autumn 2010. They were promising it for Spring 2010 earlier this year, which was moved back from Spring 2009.

Anyway, when I thought they were delaying the release until Autumn 2010, I decided I couldn't wait that long and bought a Filco Majestouch this morning. I'm really fond of Matias' optimizer features though I realize I can just program some macros and remap some keys to achieve the same effect.

I'm sure I'll survive if I end up with two sweet keyboards. It'll be hard, I know.


i'm sure you wont have any trouble selling one of them here. I'd buy the tp2/3 in a second :)
I prefer a full size board... so my choice is to buy filco zero for 90 plus 30 for a decent usb numpad, or 150 for the tp3 if it comes out soon (and if we can verify it has fukkas). Thats a lot of "ifs". :)
Title: any bets on the switches in upcoming TP3?
Post by: wellington1869 on Tue, 01 September 2009, 08:37:02
Quote from: itlnstln;113612
Wasn't one of the connections used for a USB hub?  DSI does something like this for their modular keyboard.


iirc thats indeed what the second usb connection was.
Title: any bets on the switches in upcoming TP3?
Post by: cmr on Tue, 01 September 2009, 09:26:58
Quote from: itlnstln;113612
Wasn't one of the connections used for a USB hub?  DSI does something like this for their modular keyboard.


yes, that's correct. the TP2 does not require two USB ports. only one is needed to use the keyboard. the other is needed only for the USB hub, which can be left unplugged.
Title: any bets on the switches in upcoming TP3?
Post by: rdh on Tue, 01 September 2009, 09:31:38
Quote from: itlnstln;113612
Wasn't one of the connections used for a USB hub?  DSI does something like this for their modular keyboard.


Quote from: wellington1869;113623
iirc thats indeed what the second usb connection was.


Okay, gotcha.   So the USB hub is just sharing the case with the keyboard, and the keyboard is not connected through it.
Title: any bets on the switches in upcoming TP3?
Post by: hyperlinked on Tue, 01 September 2009, 09:40:42
Quote from: rdh;113630
Okay, gotcha.   So the USB hub is just sharing the case with the keyboard, and the keyboard is not connected through it.

My bad. I had read a review a ways back that said it needed to eat up two USB ports. I guess they don't want the USB 2.0 dock to potentially interfere with your sweet joyous typing experience.
Title: any bets on the switches in upcoming TP3?
Post by: rdh on Tue, 01 September 2009, 09:58:09
Quote from: hyperlinked;113632
My bad. I had read a review a ways back that said it needed to eat up two USB ports. I guess they don't want the USB 2.0 dock to potentially interfere with your sweet joyous typing experience.


I think some KVM switches are allergic to keyboards connected through hubs; perhaps they're trying to avoid that problem?
Title: any bets on the switches in upcoming TP3?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 01 September 2009, 11:09:48
Quote from: rdh;113637
I think some KVM switches are allergic to keyboards connected through hubs; perhaps they're trying to avoid that problem?

Either that, or they didn't want to provide a hub where the keyboard is already sucking power off it.
Title: any bets on the switches in upcoming TP3?
Post by: ch_123 on Tue, 01 September 2009, 11:14:52
Isn't it obvious folks? The keyboard is just a cardboard cutout, for use with a laser projection keyboard which sadly doesn't come free... xD
Title: any bets on the switches in upcoming TP3?
Post by: msiegel on Tue, 01 September 2009, 15:23:55
Quote from: ch_123;113666
Isn't it obvious folks? The keyboard is just a cardboard cutout, for use with a laser projection keyboard which sadly doesn't come free... xD


so *that's* what they meant when they said it had "light" switches
;D