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Title: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 13 March 2015, 10:39:28
Been trying not to spam with too much stuff from my blog, but I really think you guys will like this.  :thumb:

http://www.keychatter.com/2015/03/13/exclusive-interview-with-brian-k-owner-of-elitekeyboards-com/
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 13 March 2015, 10:43:28
Maybe we need a blog subforum.
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: Firebolt1914 on Fri, 13 March 2015, 10:45:39
Maybe we need a blog subforum.

I think we need one as well.
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 13 March 2015, 10:47:57
I love that idea and would certainly be open to it.  :thumb: Who should I ask?
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Fri, 13 March 2015, 10:48:58
I love that idea and would certainly be open to it.  :thumb: Who should I ask?
Absolutely.
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 13 March 2015, 10:50:13
I love that idea and would certainly be open to it.  :thumb: Who should I ask?

I would say PM mkawa
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Fri, 13 March 2015, 10:54:32
What an awesome interview, I've really been enjoying your blog more and more, Intelli. It's reminded me of DanGWang's blog, which first got me into mechanical keyboards.  I really wish Brian had more of a presence here.
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 13 March 2015, 10:57:58
Only read a bit and love it!  Also seems to capture some GH history, some of which I was around for and a lot that I wasn't. Thanks for doing this!
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: osi on Fri, 13 March 2015, 10:58:06
Interesting read - thanks!
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 13 March 2015, 10:59:39
What an awesome interview, I've really been enjoying your blog more and more, Intelli. It's reminded me of DanGWang's blog, which first got me into mechanical keyboards.  I really wish Brian had more of a presence here.

Must be that do it alone thing he mentioned. :D

Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: azhdar on Fri, 13 March 2015, 11:02:09
Loved it.
You should at least make a thread that you bump for new articles. Your blog is great but I can never remember of going on it.
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 13 March 2015, 11:05:52
I have always been curious on the relationship between CC and EK. Why does EK get to sell CCs exclusively? Looks like you didn't ask or you did but no response?
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 13 March 2015, 11:07:19
I have always been curious on the relationship between CC and EK. Why does EK get to sell CCs exclusively? Looks like you didn't ask or you did but no response?

That would have made for an interesting question but so much mystery surrounds CC its probably top secret.

And or maybe EK was the first place to give clack a chance to sell his caps and he is loyal to them for that. OR maybe Brian is CC  :o
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 March 2015, 11:08:02
Great interview and like FlyersFan1 said, I'm really getting into your blog. Thanks for all the hard work :).
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 13 March 2015, 11:13:34

And or maybe EK was the first place to give clack a chance to sell his caps and he is loyal to them for that. OR maybe Brian is CC  :o

Intriguing.. there were some lost CC in post and Brian was quick to replace it, as if he had extras. You might have something there!
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 13 March 2015, 12:13:06
Haha, hmm, did not ask about CC. I'm pretty sure I know who CC is. Won't say anything more than that, because he obviously does not want to share his real identity. But I don't think it's Brian  :p

I asked mkawa about the subforum, he is down, but sounds like it's up to the mod team, so I PMed them, will see what happens.
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: aref on Fri, 13 March 2015, 12:16:41
Good interview. Brian has always been a gentleman in my transactions with EK.
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: Special K on Fri, 13 March 2015, 12:21:05
Interesting.  These quotes in particular stood out to me:

Quote
but Diatec (Filco distributor) wasn’t very interested in the Western markets at the time and didn’t want to sell blue switches because they were a big support headache.

Why would Cherry MX blue switches be any bigger of a support headache than browns?  Aren't they rated for a similarly high number of presses (tens of millions)?

Regarding Diatec/Filco:

Quote
Unfortunately, unresolved quality issues we reported to Diatec went unaddressed, and my focus on quality started to weigh too heavily under the increased sales. I was repairing new Filcos before they went out the door to make sure the product was consistent and polished enough to maintain the reputation needed to demand its high price.

and

Quote
They had a very solid product, and even by today’s standards, the Majestouch would still be a competitive product. But there were a number of things in the design that were causing a pretty consistent number of failures, and this was really not in line with the price point of the keyboard. It felt like, something that cost this much needed to live up to the mechanical promise of being able to achieve 50 million keystrokes.


I had no idea Filcos were considered unreliable.  I bought mine from EK in 2009 and have been using it as my daily driver almost ever since without any issues.  I realize that's only a single data point, but my impression was that Filco was a solid, reliable keyboard.
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: azhdar on Fri, 13 March 2015, 12:30:20
Interesting.  These quotes in particular stood out to me:

Quote
but Diatec (Filco distributor) wasn’t very interested in the Western markets at the time and didn’t want to sell blue switches because they were a big support headache.

Why would Cherry MX blue switches be any bigger of a support headache than browns?  Aren't they rated for a similarly high number of presses (tens of millions)?


I've heard some batches of cherry mx blue aren't clicky.
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 13 March 2015, 13:11:45
From what I gathered during the interview, MX Blues at one point had a reputation problem in the forum / among manufacturers. Not sure if it was warranted or not, also I could be completely wrong, we didn't explicitly discuss the issue, he just made a couple remarks in passing that gave me this impression. Any of the veteran users know anything about it?
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: Dihedral on Fri, 13 March 2015, 13:15:10
It's strange thinking what it must have been like in the 'old days'. Us newbies have had it easy!
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: dustinhxc on Fri, 13 March 2015, 13:17:57
Wow! Very long with many important questions! Thanks for taking the time for that!
I had no idea the Leopold partnare was such a bad business partner. That's too bad!
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 13 March 2015, 13:23:26
From what I gathered during the interview, MX Blues at one point had a reputation problem in the forum / among manufacturers. Not sure if it was warranted or not, also I could be completely wrong, we didn't explicitly discuss the issue, he just made a couple remarks in passing that gave me this impression. Any of the veteran users know anything about it?
I just remember the thing that was posted on reddit IIRC about Cherry workers hating to manufacture blues because they were a huge PITA, can't remember why though
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 13 March 2015, 13:35:16
the Leopold partnare

(http://i.imgur.com/Dm2pIiy.jpg)
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: dustinhxc on Fri, 13 March 2015, 13:58:56
the Leopold partnare

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Dm2pIiy.jpg)


Howwdy partnare'   ^-^
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 13 March 2015, 17:02:40
It's strange thinking what it must have been like in the 'old days'. Us newbies have had it easy!
Very true, we have access to a crazy selection of stuff compared to a few years ago. I hope the upward trend continues for a long time.
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: yomammary on Fri, 13 March 2015, 17:49:21
I love keychatter, congrats on the great work intelli78!
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: jacobolus on Fri, 13 March 2015, 21:55:48
Great interview, Aaron!

It’s interesting to wonder what the world would look like with no Geekhack. Was some similar site inevitable, or would keyboard fans in the West still be totally fragmented without GH as a catalyst? One way or another, it’s an amazing bunch of shared knowledge and community everyone has built here.

Do you have any more interviews lined up?
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: derezzed on Fri, 13 March 2015, 22:18:36
That interview is legit.  Thanks intelli78 and Brian Kreps for taking the time to do that.  I haven't dealt with EK yet, though I might have bought a keyboard from them if they'd had the KUL ES-87 with MX Clears in stock when I was looking for a TKL board.  As consumers, we rarely get to know the businesses with whom we deal so personally, and it was great to get insight into the industry and the history of the hobby, too. 

As an added bonus, that interview raised awareness about the mystery of clickclack, an issue that I was not aware of. 

Who could he be? 

Clark Kent?
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Shin Hayata? 
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Or you? Or you? Or YOU? 
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The truth is out there!
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 13 March 2015, 22:47:27
Didn't click clack invent Bitcoin?
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: strict on Sat, 14 March 2015, 00:20:22
Excellent read, I actually learned a lot from that  :thumb:
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: davkol on Sat, 14 March 2015, 08:15:38
Maybe we need a blog subforum.
Meh. The forum format is already weird.

planet.geekhack.org would be neat though.

Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: fuzzyx3000 on Sun, 15 March 2015, 02:35:55
(http://oi54.tinypic.com/k03tk7.jpg)
lol i'm pretty sure this was the picture that "doubled" his sales overnight :P oh how I've missed FruitDealer and the old gsl days :(
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: Smasher816 on Sun, 15 March 2015, 03:57:42
Thanks for the good read.

Brian is a pretty cool dude. Drove up from SOCAL to NORCAL before the start of school and made sure to visit his shop. Was very nice and even gave me suggestions for dinner and hotels :thumb: Ohh and playing with 55g topre was cool, as even at meetups you don't see it too much.
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: yomammary on Sun, 15 March 2015, 08:39:44
Show Image
(http://oi54.tinypic.com/k03tk7.jpg)

lol i'm pretty sure this was the picture that "doubled" his sales overnight :P oh how I've missed FruitDealer and the old gsl days :(
The good old days  :'(
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 27 March 2015, 12:17:25
Great interview, Aaron!

It’s interesting to wonder what the world would look like with no Geekhack. Was some similar site inevitable, or would keyboard fans in the West still be totally fragmented without GH as a catalyst? One way or another, it’s an amazing bunch of shared knowledge and community everyone has built here.

Do you have any more interviews lined up?

Sorry I missed this. I do! I've got interviews coming up with Jesse from keyboard.io and the VP of Sales at Kinesis.

Any requests?
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 27 March 2015, 12:19:13
Aaron could you do an interview with Matias and someone from Mechanicalkeyboards.com? Perhaps one of the Ducky reps too? The Ducky people on Facebook have been very friendly.
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 27 March 2015, 12:21:27
Awesome job INT!

Maybe we need a blog subforum.
I miss sth  :'(
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 27 March 2015, 12:29:49
Awesome job INT!

Maybe we need a blog subforum.
I miss sth  :'(
He can be found on DT. :thumb:
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: dante on Fri, 27 March 2015, 12:37:31
Maybe we need a blog subforum.

intelli78 deserves a subforum just for him.
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 27 March 2015, 12:41:03


Maybe we need a blog subforum.

intelli78 deserves a subforum just for him.

Don't get too carried away. :P
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: Dihedral on Fri, 27 March 2015, 12:48:03


Maybe we need a blog subforum.

intelli78 deserves a subforum just for him.

Don't get too carried away. :P

Agreed with spamray, too many subforums makes it harder, not easier, to find interesting content.
Title: Re: Exclusive interview with Brian from EK
Post by: intelli78 on Fri, 27 March 2015, 13:02:10
Aaron could you do an interview with Matias and someone from Mechanicalkeyboards.com? Perhaps one of the Ducky reps too? The Ducky people on Facebook have been very friendly.

Good ideas. Let me see what I can do!