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Title: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: mashby on Fri, 13 March 2015, 17:28:41: Looks like my much beloved truck, Bubba Jane, may be headed to the eternal gas station in the sky. She was supposed to be a temporary vehicle and I ended up driving her for over 7 years. Anyway, I'm starting to look for a new (to me) used car and I'm considering a Mini Cooper base, or S model and wanted to know if anyone had any thoughts on it.

I know there are some car guys here and since GeekHack is chock full of wisdom, I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.

FWIW, I'm only looking at the models after they replaced the engine. I think that's 2008, but the ones near me are all 2011 and later.

Also, I don't have kids, large pets, or the need to haul anything but my dumbass and a bunch of 60% boards. ;-)

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: Psybin on Fri, 13 March 2015, 17:36:07: It should be light enough for the fact its front wheel drive not to ruin things. I've heard they are fun, I've driven one once but it was a dealership test drive with someone else who was interested in buying one, and this was 5+ years ago so I don’t really recall anything about the driving experience. I remember it feeling kind of weird how close you sit to the passenger since there isn’t much of a center console, and the center mounted gauges are kind of annoying. Manual type S for the win, or go nuts and get Cooper Works edition haha. A GTI would be a decent alternative as far as price point, size, and power, but then there is the new Golf R coming soon that'll be a beast. Aaand the new Focus RS. But both of the latter are enthusiast type cars.

For your used searches, check into these maintenance items -- http://www.britishamericanauto.com/car-repair-education-and-info-blog/bid/88829/7-Common-Repair-Problems-Mini-Cooper-Owners-Face
And if they are all CVT transmissions... meh, do a manual. It wont be too much longer and manual transmissions will be a thing of the past, enjoy it while you can.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 13 March 2015, 17:40:16: Driven em a few times. One of those cars that just kinda feels crappy to drive. Like you have to accelerate reeeaally gently or it kinda jumps, same with braking. Besides that, nothing big wrong with it, a bunch of little things though. Like the one I drove (the four door) had no arm rests. Now that I think about it, not such a small problem, that bugged the hell out of me
Title: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: Halverson on Fri, 13 March 2015, 17:43:48: I'm looking at mine right now. She's pretty. Sadly I use it for the cottage a lot and feel like I'm killing her with bad roads. So just get one, get a manual S model and be badass!

Oh ya, remember getting pulled over by that cop while me TJ and Anson sat in the box? I'll miss your truck Mashby!
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 13 March 2015, 17:45:37: They're expensive to fix since they're a BMW and I've heard they're not the cheapest to insure either.

The biggest turn off for me though is the big ass speedometer in the center console. It's like Flava Flav is sitting smack dab in the middle of your dash:

(http://coolspotters.com/files/photos/66661/flavor-flav-and-clock-necklaces-gallery.jpg)

(http://images.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/04/IMG_5890-550x366.jpg)

Also, all the variants they made are ugly as hell.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 13 March 2015, 17:49:24: Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 13 March 2015, 17:45:37
The biggest turn off for me though is the big ass speedometer in the center console.
Oh god, and that thing

/me shudders
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: dustinhxc on Fri, 13 March 2015, 17:54:09: I had one for several years and it was my baby!!!!! I miss it very much.. Never even saw 70k miles.. Totalled it on black ice.. 2004 S model I had it back in 06-10

(http://i56.tinypic.com/352q044.jpg)
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: baldgye on Fri, 13 March 2015, 17:56:03: They are actually pretty cool cars, they sound kinda like go karts when your parking and setting off, handle like go karts and you get a decent amount of room inside.

I wouldn't go for the S as from what I've heard you don't get much for your money and your not buying a Mini for it to be a beast or anything.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: slip84 on Fri, 13 March 2015, 18:21:25: I drove one around recently on a vacation and it had a split hatch (Clubman S, I think), which made looking out the back virtually impossible. Otherwise, it was a pleasant drive and had some pep when you wanted it. The only thing that could have been better was if it had been stick. Auto is just so boring to drive.
Title: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: Halverson on Fri, 13 March 2015, 18:27:15: My dirty baby. Oh and no giant middle speedometer. Recent engine light, "exhaust system is diminished". Will be checked out soon, no worries.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 13 March 2015, 18:35:56: Quote from: Halverson on Fri, 13 March 2015, 18:27:15
My dirty baby. Oh and no giant middle speedometer. Recent engine light, "exhaust system is diminished". Will be checked out soon, no worries.
Blows my mind you drive that up there in snow.

Sweet ride BTW!
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: Halverson on Fri, 13 March 2015, 20:31:26: Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 13 March 2015, 18:35:56
Quote from: Halverson on Fri, 13 March 2015, 18:27:15
My dirty baby. Oh and no giant middle speedometer. Recent engine light, "exhaust system is diminished". Will be checked out soon, no worries.
Blows my mind you drive that up there in snow.

Sweet ride BTW!

Winter tires on it are great! It does handle like a go-kart
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: dustinhxc on Fri, 13 March 2015, 21:43:42: Quote from: Halverson on Fri, 13 March 2015, 18:27:15
My dirty baby. Oh and no giant middle speedometer. Recent engine light, "exhaust system is diminished". Will be checked out soon, no worries.

Cute! :) Nice mini man! I drove mine all year as well. But then I slipped on black ice...... So be careful!
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: demik on Fri, 13 March 2015, 21:45:59: Fiesta ST
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 13 March 2015, 21:48:42: It's kinda pointless now that gas is cheaper..

Get an X5..
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: slip84 on Fri, 13 March 2015, 22:04:29: Quote from: Halverson on Fri, 13 March 2015, 18:27:15
My dirty baby. Oh and no giant middle speedometer. Recent engine light, "exhaust system is diminished". Will be checked out soon, no worries.

So not only do you have a Mini in Canada... but it's a convertible.

Girl Shark does not obey logic.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: Halverson on Fri, 13 March 2015, 22:35:07: Quote from: slip84 on Fri, 13 March 2015, 22:04:29
Quote from: Halverson on Fri, 13 March 2015, 18:27:15
My dirty baby. Oh and no giant middle speedometer. Recent engine light, "exhaust system is diminished". Will be checked out soon, no worries.

So not only do you have a Mini in Canada... but it's a convertible.

Girl Shark does not obey logic.

I sure don't!
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: Badwrench on Fri, 13 March 2015, 22:43:35: Quote from: demik on Fri, 13 March 2015, 21:45:59
Fiesta ST

This was my first thought as well. I don't mind the Minis at all, but for the $$ there are better cars. Also, as stated before, they are made by BMW, so service and parts are pricey. My local autocross is crammed with these things though if you have any interest in having fun.

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2014-ford-fiesta-st-vs-2014-fiat-500-abarth-2014-mini-cooper-s-hardtop-comparison-test (http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2014-ford-fiesta-st-vs-2014-fiat-500-abarth-2014-mini-cooper-s-hardtop-comparison-test)

Also, if you don't need a race car but want it to feel sporty (and get great gas milage), you may want to take a drive in the new Fit. I am biased here, but after owning sports cars my whole life, the Fit was a welcome change. It is fun to drive and when pushed is very rewarding - especially since you will not be breaking many laws at the speeds it does it at. :thumb:
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 13 March 2015, 22:51:03: Quote from: Badwrench on Fri, 13 March 2015, 22:43:35
Quote from: demik on Fri, 13 March 2015, 21:45:59
Fiesta ST

This was my first thought as well. I don't mind the Minis at all, but for the $$ there are better cars. Also, as stated before, they are made by BMW, so service and parts are pricey. My local autocross is crammed with these things though if you have any interest in having fun.

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2014-ford-fiesta-st-vs-2014-fiat-500-abarth-2014-mini-cooper-s-hardtop-comparison-test (http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2014-ford-fiesta-st-vs-2014-fiat-500-abarth-2014-mini-cooper-s-hardtop-comparison-test)

Also, if you don't need a race car but want it to feel sporty (and get great gas milage), you may want to take a drive in the new Fit. I am biased here, but after owning sports cars my whole life, the Fit was a welcome change. It is fun to drive and when pushed is very rewarding - especially since you will not be breaking many laws at the speeds it does it at. :thumb:

That's how I feel about my Mazda 3, especially when I kick it into fun mode with the manumatic.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 March 2015, 22:58:38: Quote from: Halverson on Fri, 13 March 2015, 17:43:48
Oh ya, remember getting pulled over by that cop while me TJ and Anson sat in the box? I'll miss your truck Mashby!

Yoooo, that ride was legendary lmao. Good memories in that truck. I bet we got pulled over because it looked like Mashby was trying to kidnap us. :P

Mashby, I suggest that you just double up and rock another Beetle. With that incredible paintjob.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: demik on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:01:29: Quote from: Badwrench on Fri, 13 March 2015, 22:43:35
Quote from: demik on Fri, 13 March 2015, 21:45:59
Fiesta ST

This was my first thought as well. I don't mind the Minis at all, but for the $$ there are better cars. Also, as stated before, they are made by BMW, so service and parts are pricey. My local autocross is crammed with these things though if you have any interest in having fun.

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2014-ford-fiesta-st-vs-2014-fiat-500-abarth-2014-mini-cooper-s-hardtop-comparison-test (http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2014-ford-fiesta-st-vs-2014-fiat-500-abarth-2014-mini-cooper-s-hardtop-comparison-test)

Also, if you don't need a race car but want it to feel sporty (and get great gas milage), you may want to take a drive in the new Fit. I am biased here, but after owning sports cars my whole life, the Fit was a welcome change. It is fun to drive and when pushed is very rewarding - especially since you will not be breaking many laws at the speeds it does it at. :thumb:

ST is easily best bang for your buck. I've yet to watch/hear/read a review that didn't enjoy the car. Lightweight, cheap, turbo'd 4 banger. Can't ask for more.

oh yeah, we can. BRING THE COUPE HERE FORD FFS
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:03:40: ...

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...but it's a Ford...
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: demik on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:04:36: Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:03:40
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...but it's a Ford...

you drive a mazda. that's just an asian ford
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: Badwrench on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:04:43: Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 13 March 2015, 22:51:03
Quote from: Badwrench on Fri, 13 March 2015, 22:43:35
Quote from: demik on Fri, 13 March 2015, 21:45:59
Fiesta ST

This was my first thought as well. I don't mind the Minis at all, but for the $$ there are better cars. Also, as stated before, they are made by BMW, so service and parts are pricey. My local autocross is crammed with these things though if you have any interest in having fun.

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2014-ford-fiesta-st-vs-2014-fiat-500-abarth-2014-mini-cooper-s-hardtop-comparison-test (http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2014-ford-fiesta-st-vs-2014-fiat-500-abarth-2014-mini-cooper-s-hardtop-comparison-test)

Also, if you don't need a race car but want it to feel sporty (and get great gas milage), you may want to take a drive in the new Fit. I am biased here, but after owning sports cars my whole life, the Fit was a welcome change. It is fun to drive and when pushed is very rewarding - especially since you will not be breaking many laws at the speeds it does it at. :thumb:

That's how I feel about my Mazda 3, especially when I kick it into fun mode with the manumatic.

Oh yeah, another solid car I would recommend :thumb:
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:05:05: Quote from: demik on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:04:36
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Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:03:40
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...but it's a Ford...
you drive a mazda. that's just an asian ford

Asian Ford, but still better quality than American Ford.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: demik on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:06:16: Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:05:05
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Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:03:40
...

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...but it's a Ford...
you drive a mazda. that's just an asian ford

Asian Ford, but still better quality than American Ford.

you know nothing of what you speak, commie

with your anime looking car
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:12:27: Quote from: demik on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:06:16
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Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:03:40
...

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...but it's a Ford...
you drive a mazda. that's just an asian ford

Asian Ford, but still better quality than American Ford.

you know nothing of what you speak, commie

with your anime looking car

(http://i.imgur.com/tDyL83J.jpg)
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: demik on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:14:38: Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:12:27
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Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:03:40
...

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...

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...but it's a Ford...
you drive a mazda. that's just an asian ford

Asian Ford, but still better quality than American Ford.

you know nothing of what you speak, commie

with your anime looking car

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/tDyL83J.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a312/axedesign2/awesome_mazda3.jpg)
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:16:28: Quote from: demik on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:14:38
Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:12:27
Quote from: demik on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:06:16
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Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:03:40
...

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...

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...but it's a Ford...
you drive a mazda. that's just an asian ford

Asian Ford, but still better quality than American Ford.

you know nothing of what you speak, commie

with your anime looking car

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/tDyL83J.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a312/axedesign2/awesome_mazda3.jpg)

I really kind of want to do that to my Mazda now.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: demik on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:17:04: Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:16:28
Quote from: demik on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:14:38
Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:12:27
Quote from: demik on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:06:16
Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:05:05
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Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:03:40
...

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...

..

...but it's a Ford...
you drive a mazda. that's just an asian ford

Asian Ford, but still better quality than American Ford.

you know nothing of what you speak, commie

with your anime looking car

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/tDyL83J.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a312/axedesign2/awesome_mazda3.jpg)

I really kind of want to do that to my Mazda now.

mazda beat you to it and did it from the factory

LOOK AT THIS GOOD LOOKING FISH

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/p960x960/10682415_835551586495473_332579658057718281_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:18:37: Can't we all just agree that we all want to wake up in a Bugatti?
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: demik on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:19:14: only if it's new

cpt, are you the australian halverson?

NICE 2 MEET YOU M8
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: Halverson on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:22:12: Rotate commence
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: smknjoe on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:23:26: Have you taken one for a test drive yet Mr. Dobbs? I hear they are pretty under-powered. I have a VW Rabbit/Golf with a 2.5L 5 cylinder and it's slow as **** compared to other cars I've had. It's okay for daily driving, but not fun at all.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:23:30: Quote from: Halverson on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:22:12
Rotate commence

Que?
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: dustinhxc on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:25:17: Quote from: smknjoe on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:23:26
Have you taken one for a test drive yet Mr. Dobbs? I hear they are pretty under-powered. I have a VW Rabbit/Golf with a 2.5L 5 cylinder and it's slow as **** compared to other cars I've had. It's okay for daily driving, but not fun at all.

Always buy the Gti version. I've had 2 Gtis, awesome cars. The mini S is way faster though!
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: smknjoe on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:26:57: Next time, next time. I had a Talon TSi AWD that was fun and fast as hell.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: demik on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:30:22: buy this

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1097228_first-725-hp-galpin-rocket-mustang-production-car-unveiled?km

be happy, be american.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: Halverson on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:47:13: How many sharks, can there be!
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: YoungMichael88 on Sat, 14 March 2015, 00:30:50: Quote from: Halverson on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:47:13
How many sharks, can there be!
apparently 4. Unless we start doing semi rotations.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: YoungMichael88 on Sat, 14 March 2015, 00:53:50: The cooper is a fun ride. I sit ***** in Halversons all the time. And even in Canada, convertible in the summer works nicely. Although you feel like filthy sandman afterwords. The hair. Oh the hair!!
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: dustinhxc on Sat, 14 March 2015, 00:55:57: (http://i55.tinypic.com/25use2q.jpg)

They are very much like a go kart! I miss mine every day!
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: Touch_It on Tue, 17 March 2015, 11:57:48: Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 13 March 2015, 17:45:37
They're expensive to fix since they're a BMW and I've heard they're not the cheapest to insure either.

The biggest turn off for me though is the big ass speedometer in the center console. It's like Flava Flav is sitting smack dab in the middle of your dash:

Show Image
(http://coolspotters.com/files/photos/66661/flavor-flav-and-clock-necklaces-gallery.jpg)

Show Image
(http://images.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/04/IMG_5890-550x366.jpg)

Also, all the variants they made are ugly as hell.

Dat console.....hideous :O.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: dante on Tue, 17 March 2015, 12:02:53: Someone earlier in the thread brought up Mazda - I'd have to say - avoid them!

Mazda has TERRIBLE paint. A few die hards will say "Nah man - it used to be like that but after 07/08 it was all taken care of"

Nu Huh! My wifes 2014 CX5 has some spots in the paint already and it scratches if you even THINK about it scratching.

Oh yeah - we got the "Red Soul" paint that is an extra $$$ option because it's "Tri-Coat"

I shutter to think what the single coat paint is like.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: katushkin on Tue, 17 March 2015, 12:09:53: Quote from: nubbinator on Fri, 13 March 2015, 17:45:37
They're expensive to fix since they're a BMW and I've heard they're not the cheapest to insure either.

The biggest turn off for me though is the big ass speedometer in the center console. It's like Flava Flav is sitting smack dab in the middle of your dash:

Show Image
(http://coolspotters.com/files/photos/66661/flavor-flav-and-clock-necklaces-gallery.jpg)

Show Image
(http://images.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/04/IMG_5890-550x366.jpg)

Also, all the variants they made are ugly as hell.

QFT

Don't do it. They are massive as well. You can't get a mini Mini any more
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: berserkfan on Tue, 17 March 2015, 13:24:40: Quote from: mashby on Fri, 13 March 2015, 17:28:41
Looks like my much beloved truck, Bubba Jane, may be headed to the eternal gas station in the sky. She was supposed to be a temporary vehicle and I ended up driving her for over 7 years. Anyway, I'm starting to look for a new (to me) used car and I'm considering a Mini Cooper base, or S model and wanted to know if anyone had any thoughts on it.

I know there are some car guys here and since GeekHack is chock full of wisdom, I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.

FWIW, I'm only looking at the models after they replaced the engine. I think that's 2008, but the ones near me are all 2011 and later.

Also, I don't have kids, large pets, or the need to haul anything but my dumbass and a bunch of 60% boards. ;-)

Thoughts?

I can see that you live in TN. And probably in a rural area, since you call your car Bubba Jane with a straight face.

Aren't you surrounded by monster trucks, 4wds, SUVs on the roads?

Mini Cooper will be squashed flatter than a pancake in any collision with these monsters. In particular their bumpers are very dangerous, because these will be roughly at roof level with your mini and car roofs are the weakest parts.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: Oobly on Tue, 17 March 2015, 16:24:03: Get an original Mini instead :D

I have a South Africa only model, 1275E Clubman and it's a blast to drive (especially with the few small mods I've done). The new one is big, heavy (1215kg for the S, compared to 638kg for an original Cooper, almost double!) and lacking in character compared to the old, but at least the S is still a very nice car to drive and has more character than most other cars on the road :)

But yeah, get an S if you do go for one. They do still have some of the same feel as the original and are good fun to drive.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: Oobly on Tue, 17 March 2015, 16:24:44: Quote from: YoungMichael88 on Sat, 14 March 2015, 00:30:50

Quote from: Halverson on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:47:13
How many sharks, can there be!
apparently 4. Unless we start doing semi rotations.

8 if you flip.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: ideus on Tue, 17 March 2015, 16:31:51: Quote from: demik on Fri, 13 March 2015, 23:30:22
buy this

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1097228_first-725-hp-galpin-rocket-mustang-production-car-unveiled?km (http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1097228_first-725-hp-galpin-rocket-mustang-production-car-unveiled?km)

be happy, be american.

Wow! This car is super nice.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: Bromono on Tue, 17 March 2015, 17:30:38: I will only drive Subaru Imprezas from now on =/ but from what it sounds like you want, you should test drive a fiat
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 17 March 2015, 17:51:09: Quote from: Bromono on Tue, 17 March 2015, 17:30:38
I will only drive Subaru Imprezas from now on =/ but from what it sounds like you want, you should test drive a fiat

Subarus seem like such a gamble lately. It seems like so many of them are turning out to be lemons.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: Psybin on Tue, 17 March 2015, 18:01:58: I usually hear good things about the Subarus. I've owned three and they've all been rock solid, although I never boosted them beyond their limits (alah ringland issues on the STI motor 07+). I'd avoid any with a crappy CVT transmission.
All wheel drive is the way to go if you can afford it though. I'd be in another Suby but I wanted to try an Evo for a while.

For the OP the ST is a great alternative for size and power, I forgot about that car. I'd go that route over a mini for sure, unless you are turning your own wrenches.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: Bromono on Tue, 17 March 2015, 18:15:56: Quote from: nubbinator on Tue, 17 March 2015, 17:51:09
Quote from: Bromono on Tue, 17 March 2015, 17:30:38
I will only drive Subaru Imprezas from now on =/ but from what it sounds like you want, you should test drive a fiat

Subarus seem like such a gamble lately. It seems like so many of them are turning out to be lemons.

Really? One of the most solid cars I have ever driven. The only car I put above my Subaru was my 2001 Toyota tacoma. Had over 300,000 miles on it and still ran strong when I gave it away.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 17 March 2015, 21:07:10: I've just seen so many people with issues with their STis. I was looking at a Subaru, but the lack of oomph in the cheaper models and the things I was reading about turned me off to them.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: dustinhxc on Tue, 17 March 2015, 22:04:42: Quote from: Oobly on Tue, 17 March 2015, 16:24:03
Get an original Mini instead :D

I have a South Africa only model, 1275E Clubman and it's a blast to drive (especially with the few small mods I've done). The new one is big, heavy (1215kg for the S, compared to 638kg for an original Cooper, almost double!) and lacking in character compared to the old, but at least the S is still a very nice car to drive and has more character than most other cars on the road :)

But yeah, get an S if you do go for one. They do still have some of the same feel as the original and are good fun to drive.

Hell yea! Clubmans are awesome! It's super hard to get an Austin mini here but I'd love a RHD one one day!
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: mashby on Wed, 18 March 2015, 12:51:48: Thanks for all the feedback guys. Absolutely love the discussion in this thread. It totally made my day.

I thought I had a line on a really good deal for a 2011 Mini Cooper Hardtop (http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/618659632/overview/) (10 Years In America Edition), but the deal kinda fell through. Didn't care for the striping, but figured I could get it removed. Who knows it might pan out in time.

My plan is to go drive some different models this Saturday, especially and S to see how much of a difference it makes.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 18 March 2015, 13:02:58: I always wished I had more power w my S. Can't imagine a non S!
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: mashby on Wed, 18 March 2015, 14:03:03: Quote from: dustinhxc on Wed, 18 March 2015, 13:02:58
I always wished I had more power w my S. Can't imagine a non S!

Interesting. I did find the non-S not as zippy as I remember, but it was also raining that day, so I took it easy. Saturday I hope to get a better idea of how different the models feel.

I just hope I don't lose my mind over a John Cooper Works. :confused:
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: baldgye on Wed, 18 March 2015, 14:08:31: I was thinking about this on my drive home from work, if you don't happen to live near many roads with bends (something I'm told is pretty common in 'murica) then I can see this not being so great, but being able to throw it into corners at 50-60 and just feel it gripping to the road was pretty fun, you don't really need the extra power... but I can see why you would miss it on straights if that was pretty much all you were driving on
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: tjcaustin on Wed, 18 March 2015, 14:20:08: My list of cars I'm ok to be in, based on research and comfort while inside:

Cooper S
Ford Fiesta ST
Fiat 500 abarth
VW GTi/ Golf diesel

The newest Kia Forte5 bounces on and off the list, but might be out of the price range you're looking at.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 18 March 2015, 14:51:13: I'd stay so far away from Fiat. They have so many problems it's not even funny. They're ranked as the least reliable car on the road and have a pretty bad crash safety rating.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 18 March 2015, 18:12:25: Quote from: mashby on Wed, 18 March 2015, 14:03:03
Quote from: dustinhxc on Wed, 18 March 2015, 13:02:58
I always wished I had more power w my S. Can't imagine a non S!

Interesting. I did find the non-S not as zippy as I remember, but it was also raining that day, so I took it easy. Saturday I hope to get a better idea of how different the models feel.

I just hope I don't lose my mind over a John Cooper Works. :confused:

Haha John Cooper works are great! :)
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: dante on Wed, 18 March 2015, 18:57:10: mashby, any interest in a CPO Volvo C30?
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: mashby on Thu, 19 March 2015, 10:14:30: Quote from: dante on Wed, 18 March 2015, 18:57:10
mashby, any interest in a CPO Volvo C30?

To be honest, I haven't really considered it. I have noticed them on the road and the back end has some nice lines, but other than that I don't know that much about them. Are you a fan?
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: NoblesseOblige on Thu, 19 March 2015, 10:19:27: I was in the market for a new car last year and was seriously looking at a Mini Cooper. My main reason was gas mileage and relatively low cost. I do all my own repairs as my father owns a auto repair shop and after consulting him I decided to go with a Honda Civic instead. The MPG was basically the same, the car was actually cheaper, and he can get replacement parts for basically dirt cheap.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: dante on Thu, 19 March 2015, 11:05:05: Quote from: mashby on Thu, 19 March 2015, 10:14:30
Quote from: dante on Wed, 18 March 2015, 18:57:10
mashby, any interest in a CPO Volvo C30?

To be honest, I haven't really considered it. I have noticed them on the road and the back end has some nice lines, but other than that I don't know that much about them. Are you a fan?

I own one :p

The manual/clutch is pretty crap - but the 5 speed Geartronic Auto is rock solid. Plus you can get a Polestar factory tune for more horsepower and torques. If you can I'd suggest you take a test drive at a Carmax or something before making a final decision.

There are so few out on the road (it was a flop) that it feels like you are driving a prototype :D
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: mashby on Thu, 19 March 2015, 11:50:57: Quote from: NoblesseOblige on Thu, 19 March 2015, 10:19:27
I was in the market for a new car last year and was seriously looking at a Mini Cooper. My main reason was gas mileage and relatively low cost. I do all my own repairs as my father owns a auto repair shop and after consulting him I decided to go with a Honda Civic instead. The MPG was basically the same, the car was actually cheaper, and he can get replacement parts for basically dirt cheap.

Based on those requirements, I think you made the right choice.

Still learning about what can go wrong with a Mini, but I know going in it'll be more expensive than I'm accustomed to. I fear that Mini fever may have set in and is clouding my judgment. :))
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: JPG on Thu, 19 March 2015, 12:12:01: Quote from: mashby on Thu, 19 March 2015, 11:50:57
Quote from: NoblesseOblige on Thu, 19 March 2015, 10:19:27
I was in the market for a new car last year and was seriously looking at a Mini Cooper. My main reason was gas mileage and relatively low cost. I do all my own repairs as my father owns a auto repair shop and after consulting him I decided to go with a Honda Civic instead. The MPG was basically the same, the car was actually cheaper, and he can get replacement parts for basically dirt cheap.

Based on those requirements, I think you made the right choice.

Still learning about what can go wrong with a Mini, but I know going in it'll be more expensive than I'm accustomed to. I fear that Mini fever may have set in and is clouding my judgment. :))

I am no expert but I like to watch car review shows on tv and there's a pretty good one where I live that is pretty much unbiased and the main story with the Cooper is that it's a very fun car to drive and has a nice look but it's not the most reliable and can cost more than average for repairs. So it depends on your priorities: Fun and look go for it, money then maybe reconsider it!
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: dustinhxc on Thu, 19 March 2015, 17:58:35: Quote from: NoblesseOblige on Thu, 19 March 2015, 10:19:27
I was in the market for a new car last year and was seriously looking at a Mini Cooper. My main reason was gas mileage and relatively low cost. I do all my own repairs as my father owns a auto repair shop and after consulting him I decided to go with a Honda Civic instead. The MPG was basically the same, the car was actually cheaper, and he can get replacement parts for basically dirt cheap.

Good choice! I am Honda for life now! I would never buy a euro car again simply because of how much parts/ repair/ insurance/ etc was. Oh also gas I had to get 92 octane in them.

I love my Civic, my wife loves her civic, my mother in law loves her CRV. Honda rocks! :thumb:

I did enjoy my MINI Cooper S and other euro cars. They just wernt reliable enough. But damn did I enjoy them!
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: saturnotaku on Thu, 19 March 2015, 21:40:10: Minis might be fun to drive, but they're unreliable and extremely expensive to fix when something goes wrong. And unless you use all-season tires and have a can of fix-a-flat, the stock run-flat tires are beyond worthless in the snow. I had a 2009 Clubman that was basically undriveable in anything more than an inch of snow. It also blew a tire pressure sensor that cost $260 to fix. For comparison, it only cost $80 to replace a similar part on my wife's 2008 Hyundai Santa Fe.

I will strongly discourage others from owning a Mini until the day I die.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: dustinhxc on Fri, 20 March 2015, 00:05:23: It's very true, I LOVED MY CAR. So much in fact that I have a blue S tattoo on my lower knuckle! It was my dream car and I don't regret it. Though, it was one of my least reliable cars because there was always something going wrong w it and it was very expensive to fix and maintain. Though, I'd still own it if I didn't crash on black ice, simply because it was an amazing car to sit inside daily.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: Oobly on Fri, 20 March 2015, 06:32:41: Quote from: mashby on Thu, 19 March 2015, 11:50:57
Quote from: NoblesseOblige on Thu, 19 March 2015, 10:19:27
I was in the market for a new car last year and was seriously looking at a Mini Cooper. My main reason was gas mileage and relatively low cost. I do all my own repairs as my father owns a auto repair shop and after consulting him I decided to go with a Honda Civic instead. The MPG was basically the same, the car was actually cheaper, and he can get replacement parts for basically dirt cheap.

Based on those requirements, I think you made the right choice.

Still learning about what can go wrong with a Mini, but I know going in it'll be more expensive than I'm accustomed to. I fear that Mini fever may have set in and is clouding my judgment. :))

(http://www.stefanopasini.it/images/minicooperjump.jpg)

Did someone say "snow"? Just remember to use the hand brake correctly and power out through the corners:

(https://images1.bonhams.com/image?src=Images/live/2009-06/04/7894394-1-1.jpg&top=0.0000&left=0.1098&bottom=0.9008&right=1.0000&width=640&height=480&halign=l0&valign=t0&autosizefit=1)

Well, I wasn't much of a car fan, let alone a Mini fan before I got mine. Was into motorbikes more. Then I got my Mini and was hooked from the first drive.

I have to admit that Honda do have a very good track record with reliability, though, particularly compared to BMW, but it may be worth it. Personal choice, for me it's worth a little extra effort and cost to have something that puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. And quite often other drivers and passersby, too.

Some more Mini madness, how to park your Mini:
(http://www.dodojuice.com/images/dodo-minifest05.jpg)

New Mini can do the same tricks:

Russ Swift and Timo Mäkinen are awesome.....
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: katushkin on Fri, 20 March 2015, 07:05:13: You can still do all of that in pretty much any small FWD car these days. The Novelty about the old Mini was that it was actually small. Smaller than any other car. But now it isn't.

It's more expensive and less reliable than the other similar cars you can get.

You can get an A3 (more reliable) almost an A class, almost a 1 series, a Golf estate or a Jetta (both bigger.)

The only place the new Mini is small, is inside.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: mashby on Tue, 31 March 2015, 12:03:12: After about a month of research and scouring the earth, I came across a deal that I simply couldn't pass up. Saturday night, I bought a 2009 Mini Cooper S Clubman in Pepper White with 63,000 miles on it. It's a six-speed manual and a ton of fun to drive.

(http://l.mashby.com/njip+)

Thanks for all the feedback and encouragement. This thread was a ton-o-fun for me. :-*
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: Halverson on Tue, 31 March 2015, 12:12:58: Quote from: mashby on Tue, 31 March 2015, 12:03:12
After about a month of research and scouring the earth, I came across a deal that I simply couldn't pass up. Saturday night, I bought a 2009 Mini Cooper S Clubman in Pepper White with 63,000 miles on it. It's a six-speed manual and a ton of fun to drive.

Show Image
(http://l.mashby.com/njip+)

Thanks for all the feedback and encouragement. This thread was a ton-o-fun for me. :-*

Bro :)

Next time I'm round, we getting club sandwiches in that clubman!
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: mashby on Tue, 31 March 2015, 13:12:23: Quote from: Halverson on Tue, 31 March 2015, 12:12:58
Bro :)

Next time I'm round, we getting club sandwiches in that clubman!

It's a ~~DATE!~~ Err.... a deal, yeah that's it. :))
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 31 March 2015, 13:15:42: Quote from: Halverson on Tue, 31 March 2015, 12:12:58

Quote from: mashby on Tue, 31 March 2015, 12:03:12
After about a month of research and scouring the earth, I came across a deal that I simply couldn't pass up. Saturday night, I bought a 2009 Mini Cooper S Clubman in Pepper White with 63,000 miles on it. It's a six-speed manual and a ton of fun to drive.

Thanks for all the feedback and encouragement. This thread was a ton-o-fun for me. :-*

Bro :)

Next time I'm round, we getting club sandwiches in that clubman!

Halvy can you even fit in that thing? :p

PS: Sweet ride mashby! Next time I'm through town I'll look for it. :D
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 31 March 2015, 13:39:01: I'm going to be that guy.

It looks like it needs tires...
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: Halverson on Tue, 31 March 2015, 13:41:29: Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 31 March 2015, 13:15:42
Quote from: Halverson on Tue, 31 March 2015, 12:12:58

Quote from: mashby on Tue, 31 March 2015, 12:03:12
After about a month of research and scouring the earth, I came across a deal that I simply couldn't pass up. Saturday night, I bought a 2009 Mini Cooper S Clubman in Pepper White with 63,000 miles on it. It's a six-speed manual and a ton of fun to drive.

Thanks for all the feedback and encouragement. This thread was a ton-o-fun for me. :-*

Bro :)

Next time I'm round, we getting club sandwiches in that clubman!

Halvy can you even fit in that thing? :p

PS: Sweet ride mashby! Next time I'm through town I'll look for it. :D

Did you not see my car pics I posted earlier in the thread? :D
The real question is, who gets to sit cross legged on the seat behind me!
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 31 March 2015, 13:44:19: Quote from: Halverson on Tue, 31 March 2015, 13:41:29

Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 31 March 2015, 13:15:42
Quote from: Halverson on Tue, 31 March 2015, 12:12:58

Quote from: mashby on Tue, 31 March 2015, 12:03:12
After about a month of research and scouring the earth, I came across a deal that I simply couldn't pass up. Saturday night, I bought a 2009 Mini Cooper S Clubman in Pepper White with 63,000 miles on it. It's a six-speed manual and a ton of fun to drive.

Thanks for all the feedback and encouragement. This thread was a ton-o-fun for me. :-*

Bro :)

Next time I'm round, we getting club sandwiches in that clubman!

Halvy can you even fit in that thing? :p

PS: Sweet ride mashby! Next time I'm through town I'll look for it. :D

Did you not see my car pics I posted earlier in the thread? :D
The real question is, who gets to sit cross legged on the seat behind me!

Doh! I did see that little guy playing in the snow. ;)
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 31 March 2015, 13:52:19: Quote from: katushkin on Fri, 20 March 2015, 07:05:13
The only place the new Mini is small, is inside.

Unless you're a person trying to sit in it. ;) I still haven't found a vehicle that I fit more comfortably in than a new Mini.

For storage, sure, it's tiny.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: mashby on Tue, 31 March 2015, 16:00:29: Quote from: tjcaustin on Tue, 31 March 2015, 13:39:01
I'm going to be that guy.

It looks like it needs tires...

They're not new, but it looks like they a plenty of life in them... for now.

Is it something you're seeing specifically?
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 31 March 2015, 16:02:12: Quote from: mashby on Tue, 31 March 2015, 16:00:29

Quote from: tjcaustin on Tue, 31 March 2015, 13:39:01
I'm going to be that guy.

It looks like it needs tires...

They're not new, but it looks like they a plenty of life in them... for now.

Is it something you're seeing specifically?

They do look really smooth in the picture.
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: mashby on Tue, 31 March 2015, 16:06:16: Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 31 March 2015, 16:02:12
Quote from: mashby on Tue, 31 March 2015, 16:00:29

Quote from: tjcaustin on Tue, 31 March 2015, 13:39:01
I'm going to be that guy.

It looks like it needs tires...

They're not new, but it looks like they a plenty of life in them... for now.

Is it something you're seeing specifically?

They do look really smooth in the picture.

I think that's just the shot. Lots of tread there, but I'm working it off quickly. LOL!
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: dustinhxc on Tue, 31 March 2015, 16:13:54: Quote from: mashby on Tue, 31 March 2015, 12:03:12
After about a month of research and scouring the earth, I came across a deal that I simply couldn't pass up. Saturday night, I bought a 2009 Mini Cooper S Clubman in Pepper White with 63,000 miles on it. It's a six-speed manual and a ton of fun to drive.

Show Image
(http://l.mashby.com/njip+)

Thanks for all the feedback and encouragement. This thread was a ton-o-fun for me. :-*

Clubman S very cool! The rear doors look sweet on those! :thumb: Congrats!
Title: Re: Considering The Mini Cooper For My Next Car
Post by: mashby on Tue, 14 April 2015, 13:41:49: Took my Mini into the shop last week for an oil change and general inspection. $1,500 later she's in tip-top shape. Sucks to have to pay that much, but the two things that needed fixing were necessary. What also needed fixing was my tires. Kudos to you TJ for the eagle eye! :cool:

It wasn't until I turned the wheels out wide that I could see the inside treads were the ones that were super low. You can see the belt low. :eek: Ordered a set of Nitto NeoGen 205 /50 R16 91V XL BSW (http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/tires/nitto/product/submitProductSize.do?pc=40214&typ=Passenger%2FPerformance&tmn=NT+NeoGen) and I'll have them installed on Thursday.

Sucks having to spend 2k after just buying a used car, but I knew there were going to be some repairs necessary and it's my fault for not inspecting the tires closer.