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Title: Alps GGMM-101; what switches does this use?
Post by: chyros on Sat, 14 March 2015, 17:41:26: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ALPS-GGMM-101-Hi-Tek-Mechanical-Click-Clack-Keyboard-Clicky-5-pin-DIN-AT-PS2-/251874309397?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3aa4e0f515

Claims to have Alps mechanical key switches, but the description says Hi-Tek and the lifetime is rated at 30 million minimum which I think is higher than any SKCM/SKCL switch. Anyone know what kind of switches this uses?
Title: Re: Alps GGMM-101; what switches does this use?
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 14 March 2015, 17:48:46: That looks an awful lot like a Dell AT101. Same legends and everything.
Title: Re: Alps GGMM-101; what switches does this use?
Post by: Huxley2500 on Sat, 14 March 2015, 17:52:04: Bet it is Black Tactile Alps.
Title: Re: Alps GGMM-101; what switches does this use?
Post by: chyros on Sat, 14 March 2015, 18:07:30: Definitely looks like an Alps Bigfoot. SKCM Black wasn't all that common in them though AFAIK.
Title: Re: Alps GGMM-101; what switches does this use?
Post by: jacobolus on Sat, 14 March 2015, 19:44:36: Probably white Alps, but possibly black Alps. Ignore the “Hi-Tek” part.
Title: Re: Alps GGMM-101; what switches does this use?
Post by: Daniel Beardsmore on Sat, 14 March 2015, 20:23:48: Ow my head!

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/181685806839

There's the reverse-curve design … with SKCM switches!

Someone was asking about that the other day — they found one with an FCC ID that didn't match the rubber dome version (MIDAS), but was reported to be mechanical. The model in the auction above is MCL-101, which according to the box has clicky switches, when it blatantly does not:

http://imgur.com/a/0jQcC

Clearly Alps stopped caring about their own products. Another person with the same MCL-101 keyboard (box says clicky, switches are non-clicky) with full disassembly photos:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=8187.msg144874#msg144874

GGMM-101 is a curious model number — still don't have confirmation of the official term to use instead of "Alps Bigfoot", since we don't know for certain that the part codes Sandy found were not used for other keyboards besides the banana-shaped ones like GGMM-101.
Title: Re: Alps GGMM-101; what switches does this use?
Post by: chyros on Sat, 14 March 2015, 20:45:15: That MCL doesn't really look like this board though, I think Oo .
Title: Re: Alps GGMM-101; what switches does this use?
Post by: stratokaster on Sun, 15 March 2015, 06:54:49: Actually, the manual says GGMC-101, not GGMM-101. You can see it in the photo if you enlarge it.
Title: Re: Alps GGMM-101; what switches does this use?
Post by: Daniel Beardsmore on Sun, 15 March 2015, 07:50:50: That explains why I typed GGMC-101 into Google to find more about it. Having found nothing, I realised I'd somehow mistyped "GGMC" instead of "GGMM"! Turns out I was correct all along.

Quote from: chyros on Sat, 14 March 2015, 20:45:15
That MCL doesn't really look like this board though, I think Oo .

I know it doesn't. This is a point of confusion: GGMC-101 and MCL-101 are different but similar shapes and people get them mixed up, but now it's worse, because the latter shape is one that I thought was only used for rubber dome keyboards, but in fact it was also used for mechanical (MCL-101).

Keyboards of the GGMC-101 shape can be mechanical (Alps/Silitek) or rubber dome (Silitek). Keyboards of the MCL-101 shape can also mechanical or rubber dome, both made by Alps.
Title: Re: Alps GGMM-101; what switches does this use?
Post by: stratokaster on Sun, 15 March 2015, 08:14:22: Quote from: Daniel Beardsmore on Sun, 15 March 2015, 07:50:50
Keyboards of the GGMC-101 shape can be mechanical (Alps/Silitek) or rubber dome (Silitek).

It looks exactly like a rubber dome Alps keyboard (MIDAS101-102) I have found recently. So I guess Alps made some rubber dome boards of this shape as well.
Title: Re: Alps GGMM-101; what switches does this use?
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 15 March 2015, 08:16:11: Ah, the rare Click Clack board :cool:
Title: Re: Alps GGMM-101; what switches does this use?
Post by: chyros on Sun, 15 March 2015, 09:17:53: Haha well I do hope that if someone does buy it it doesn't turn out to be rubber dome - the price is rather royal even for a mech board xD .