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Title: Separating Ergo Keyboard?
Post by: Dvisic on Thu, 19 March 2015, 20:05:38
Quick question (I did some searching, and didn't see an answer...but that doesn't mean it isn't there):

I'm kitting out a cockpit for star citizen. Nothing so elaborate as a simpit, but I probably will have a car style seat and a general cockpit feel. If I wanted to have a split keyboard with easy access without moving my arms a lot, can something like the Goldtouch split keyboard be cut apart at the hinge, adding a longer wire to connect the two halves?

I'm specifically thinking of keyboards like this one:

(http://goldtouch.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/gtp0044-eagle-left.jpg)

Thanks,
Dvisic
Title: Re: Separating Ergo Keyboard?
Post by: engicoder on Thu, 19 March 2015, 20:34:45
I'm sure it can if your comfortable with soldering.

As an alternative, have you looked at the ErgoDox?

http://ergodox.org/
Title: Re: Separating Ergo Keyboard?
Post by: Dvisic on Thu, 19 March 2015, 22:28:47
Quote from: engicoder on Thu, 19 March 2015, 20:34:45
I'm sure it can if your comfortable with soldering.

As an alternative, have you looked at the ErgoDox?

http://ergodox.org/

I did, yeah, and it looks very cool. It just looks a bit higher on the cost/effort scale. Of course, that assumes I can find a cheap used ergo keyboard somewhere....
Title: Re: Separating Ergo Keyboard?
Post by: Liar on Fri, 20 March 2015, 03:03:54
Ergodox can now be preordered pre-assembled from

http://www.ergodox-ez.com/ (http://www.ergodox-ez.com/)

Though you may not get it until December-ish

Great time to snag one at this price



Title: Re: Separating Ergo Keyboard?
Post by: Oobly on Fri, 20 March 2015, 03:44:43
Perhaps a pair of remapped Filco numpads laid out horizontally?
Title: Re: Separating Ergo Keyboard?
Post by: Dvisic on Fri, 20 March 2015, 03:49:55
Quote from: Liar on Fri, 20 March 2015, 03:03:54
Ergodox can now be preordered pre-assembled from

http://www.ergodox-ez.com/ (http://www.ergodox-ez.com/)

Though you may not get it until December-ish

Great time to snag one at this price
And why should I believe you?   ;D

Seriously, though, $220 after shipping is a little more than I can justify spending on a keyboard right now.  Especially as I've never really used a mechanical keyboard, so I don't really know that I'll like it any better.

Although there do seem to be rather strong feelings by those who use them....

Phiz
Title: Re: Separating Ergo Keyboard?
Post by: Dvisic on Fri, 20 March 2015, 03:55:42
Quote from: Oobly on Fri, 20 March 2015, 03:44:43
Perhaps a pair of remapped Filco numpads laid out horizontally?

Hmm.  I'll look into that.

As an aside, what is that cool keypad configuration in your avatar??
Title: Re: Separating Ergo Keyboard?
Post by: jacobolus on Fri, 20 March 2015, 04:34:56
Have you seen http://matias.ca/ergopro/pc/ ?
Title: Re: Separating Ergo Keyboard?
Post by: Oobly on Fri, 20 March 2015, 06:08:06
Quote from: Dvisic on Fri, 20 March 2015, 03:55:42
Quote from: Oobly on Fri, 20 March 2015, 03:44:43
Perhaps a pair of remapped Filco numpads laid out horizontally?

Hmm.  I'll look into that.

As an aside, what is that cool keypad configuration in your avatar??

DIY split ergo keyboard: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49721.0

Lots of work, lots of reward :) I'd love to make it into a product, but I haven't enough time for all my keyboard projects!
Title: Re: Separating Ergo Keyboard?
Post by: kurplop on Fri, 20 March 2015, 07:15:08
Have you considered the Kinesis Freestyle? Two halves, can be separated up to 20", and around $100. Not mechanical though.
Title: Re: Separating Ergo Keyboard?
Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 20 March 2015, 09:49:00
I think the Virgo keyboard has made a recent debut over in kbdlabs.

(http://i.imgur.com/3PISNxe.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/mpgW6Ns.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/d3IzLRy.jpg)

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&page=6&document_srl=1064154
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&page=3&document_srl=1156358
Title: Re: Separating Ergo Keyboard?
Post by: Findecanor on Fri, 20 March 2015, 09:49:22
Welcome to Geekhack, Dvisic! Your username sounds Slavic. Where are you from?

Davkol in the Czech Republic has a larger Goldtouch with a broken hinge for sale (http://deskthority.net/for-sale-f55/goldtouch-adjustable-keyboard-foreign-layout-t6656.html) for €15. It is otherwise new and has keys with regular key travel.
If it is anything like the Goldtouch that I had, you would need a relatively thick cable (with many wires) for it though. Shouldn't be a problem to take apart, only more soldering work.
Title: Re: Separating Ergo Keyboard?
Post by: Dvisic on Fri, 20 March 2015, 11:29:51
Quote from: Findecanor on Fri, 20 March 2015, 09:49:22
Welcome to Geekhack, Dvisic! Your username sounds Slavic. Where are you from?

Davkol in the Czech Republic has a larger Goldtouch with a broken hinge for sale (http://deskthority.net/for-sale-f55/goldtouch-adjustable-keyboard-foreign-layout-t6656.html) for €15. It is otherwise new and has keys with regular key travel.
If it is anything like the Goldtouch that I had, you would need a relatively thick cable (with many wires) for it though. Shouldn't be a problem to take apart, only more soldering work.

Nothing so exciting, I'm afraid. I live just outside Portland, OR, USA.  A number of years ago, I was attempting to come up with a username for a forum.  Everything I thought of was taken. Frustrated, I glanced down at my desk. A circular for a local music shop was lying there, with a CD for sale with "Advisory: Explicit Lyrics" on the cover. I took the "dvis" from "advisory" and the "ic" from "lyrics" and, well, the rest is history. I've been using it ever since. :P
Title: Re: Separating Ergo Keyboard?
Post by: monotagary on Fri, 20 March 2015, 12:06:58
Quote from: Lastpilot on Fri, 20 March 2015, 09:49:00
I think the Virgo keyboard has made a recent debut over in kbdlabs.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/3PISNxe.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/mpgW6Ns.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/d3IzLRy.jpg)


http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&page=6&document_srl=1064154
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&page=3&document_srl=1156358

Holy moly, it's even an Alps board too.
Title: Re: Separating Ergo Keyboard?
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 20 March 2015, 13:15:14
Quote from: Lastpilot on Fri, 20 March 2015, 09:49:00
I think the Virgo keyboard has made a recent debut over in kbdlabs.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/3PISNxe.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/mpgW6Ns.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/d3IzLRy.jpg)


http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&page=6&document_srl=1064154
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?mid=board_Lsno50&page=3&document_srl=1156358

That's weird as hell, but I kind of want it.
Title: Re: Separating Ergo Keyboard?
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 20 March 2015, 13:45:30
Quote from: Dvisic on Fri, 20 March 2015, 03:49:55
Quote from: Liar on Fri, 20 March 2015, 03:03:54
Ergodox can now be preordered pre-assembled from

http://www.ergodox-ez.com/ (http://www.ergodox-ez.com/)

Though you may not get it until December-ish

Great time to snag one at this price
And why should I believe you?   ;D

Seriously, though, $220 after shipping is a little more than I can justify spending on a keyboard right now.  Especially as I've never really used a mechanical keyboard, so I don't really know that I'll like it any better.

Although there do seem to be rather strong feelings by those who use them....

Phiz

Strong feelings?

How dare you disparage my Love.. (http://www.msgking.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/onion-avatar036.gif)

JKJK


Um.. There are no "mechanical" 2mm actuating split keyboards on the market @ less than $200..

I think if you're just building a play seat.. that goldtouch you posted is the way to go, since you're not going to be working from it.. just some gaming..
Title: Re: Separating Ergo Keyboard?
Post by: SonOfSonOfSpock on Fri, 20 March 2015, 14:26:50
The Kinesis Freestyle is split with a wire in between. They have two different options for separation 9" and 20".

http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/shop/freestyle2-for-pc-us/ (http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/shop/freestyle2-for-pc-us/)
Title: Re: Separating Ergo Keyboard?
Post by: davkol on Fri, 20 March 2015, 15:00:20
Tipro daisychain…

…or my goldtouch. ^_~
Title: Re: Separating Ergo Keyboard?
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 20 March 2015, 15:31:52
Quote from: SonOfSonOfSpock on Fri, 20 March 2015, 14:26:50
The Kinesis Freestyle is split with a wire in between. They have two different options for separation 9" and 20".

http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/shop/freestyle2-for-pc-us/ (http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/shop/freestyle2-for-pc-us/)

pretty sure that's not mechanical.
Title: Re: Separating Ergo Keyboard?
Post by: katushkin on Fri, 20 March 2015, 16:09:50
Quote from: tp4tissue on Fri, 20 March 2015, 15:31:52
Quote from: SonOfSonOfSpock on Fri, 20 March 2015, 14:26:50
The Kinesis Freestyle is split with a wire in between. They have two different options for separation 9" and 20".

http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/shop/freestyle2-for-pc-us/ (http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/shop/freestyle2-for-pc-us/)

pretty sure that's not mechanical.

Quote
Key switch

Peak force: 44 grams
Activation force: 35 grams
Travel distance: 3.9 mm
Switch type: Rubber dome, membrane

Confirmed