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Title: Idle Laptop
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 23 March 2015, 20:12:15
What would you guys consider acceptable idling temperature for Laptops

Since the damn things are designed to run 100-C... 

I feel like, 60-C might even be ok for idle (nothing running cept windows)


It wouldn't really hit that unless you turn the fan off with a control app.
Title: Re: Idle Laptop
Post by: tbc on Mon, 23 March 2015, 21:36:36
60 is fine.  40 is awesome.  80 is absurdly dangerous - do not use.
Title: Re: Idle Laptop
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 23 March 2015, 22:12:34
60 is fine.  40 is awesome.  80 is absurdly dangerous - do not use.

I can hit 40-45 Idle if I leave the fan on..

It can even drop to 35-40 when the c1-state kicks in

Just wondering if disabling it is wise.. it will idle @ < 65 with the fan off and light browsing.
Title: Re: Idle Laptop
Post by: ctm on Wed, 25 March 2015, 15:23:22
The CPU temperature of ASUS laptop (don't but ASUS. The quality is poor) is about 60 to 70. But it's not really idle because I am running BOINC which causes about 15% CPU workload.
Title: Re: Idle Laptop
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 25 March 2015, 15:36:29
The CPU temperature of ASUS laptop (don't but ASUS. The quality is poor) is about 60 to 70. But it's not really idle because I am running BOINC which causes about 15% CPU workload.

I think it's fine to run boinc on laptops, but not "plastic" laptops, because the heat tends to warp the plastic over time. hahahaha..

Title: Re: Idle Laptop
Post by: ctm on Wed, 25 March 2015, 15:55:57
The CPU temperature of ASUS laptop (don't but ASUS. The quality is poor) is about 60 to 70. But it's not really idle because I am running BOINC which causes about 15% CPU workload.

I think it's fine to run boinc on laptops, but not "plastic" laptops, because the heat tends to warp the plastic over time. hahahaha..
My old Thinkpad was "plastic" and it seems to be fine after running BOINC for two years. My current ASUS has a metal plate so I guess there won't be problems with this. (But its quality is really poor. In one year of use, I encounter battery problem twice. The laptop does not recognize the battery and I have to remove the battery to plug in again, which is not so easy because it does not have a removable battery design and I have to disassemble the laptop to do so. Also at the time of about one year of use, its screen hinge broke down for no reason. So now it's basically a desktop that looks like a laptop. I use external monitor, keyboard and mouse :D Hopefully It will survive at least two more years before I get a new computer.)
Title: Re: Idle Laptop
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 25 March 2015, 19:05:53
The CPU temperature of ASUS laptop (don't but ASUS. The quality is poor) is about 60 to 70. But it's not really idle because I am running BOINC which causes about 15% CPU workload.

I think it's fine to run boinc on laptops, but not "plastic" laptops, because the heat tends to warp the plastic over time. hahahaha..
My old Thinkpad was "plastic" and it seems to be fine after running BOINC for two years. My current ASUS has a metal plate so I guess there won't be problems with this. (But its quality is really poor. In one year of use, I encounter battery problem twice. The laptop does not recognize the battery and I have to remove the battery to plug in again, which is not so easy because it does not have a removable battery design and I have to disassemble the laptop to do so. Also at the time of about one year of use, its screen hinge broke down for no reason. So now it's basically a desktop that looks like a laptop. I use external monitor, keyboard and mouse :D Hopefully It will survive at least two more years before I get a new computer.)

are u sure it was plastic and not a magnesium alloy?
Title: Re: Idle Laptop
Post by: ctm on Wed, 25 March 2015, 19:43:49
The CPU temperature of ASUS laptop (don't but ASUS. The quality is poor) is about 60 to 70. But it's not really idle because I am running BOINC which causes about 15% CPU workload.

I think it's fine to run boinc on laptops, but not "plastic" laptops, because the heat tends to warp the plastic over time. hahahaha..
My old Thinkpad was "plastic" and it seems to be fine after running BOINC for two years. My current ASUS has a metal plate so I guess there won't be problems with this. (But its quality is really poor. In one year of use, I encounter battery problem twice. The laptop does not recognize the battery and I have to remove the battery to plug in again, which is not so easy because it does not have a removable battery design and I have to disassemble the laptop to do so. Also at the time of about one year of use, its screen hinge broke down for no reason. So now it's basically a desktop that looks like a laptop. I use external monitor, keyboard and mouse :D Hopefully It will survive at least two more years before I get a new computer.)

are u sure it was plastic and not a magnesium alloy?
I believe the outer case is plastic, because it feels like plastic. Maybe the inner frame is metal. I am not sure.
Title: Re: Idle Laptop
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 25 March 2015, 19:45:49
The CPU temperature of ASUS laptop (don't but ASUS. The quality is poor) is about 60 to 70. But it's not really idle because I am running BOINC which causes about 15% CPU workload.

I think it's fine to run boinc on laptops, but not "plastic" laptops, because the heat tends to warp the plastic over time. hahahaha..
My old Thinkpad was "plastic" and it seems to be fine after running BOINC for two years. My current ASUS has a metal plate so I guess there won't be problems with this. (But its quality is really poor. In one year of use, I encounter battery problem twice. The laptop does not recognize the battery and I have to remove the battery to plug in again, which is not so easy because it does not have a removable battery design and I have to disassemble the laptop to do so. Also at the time of about one year of use, its screen hinge broke down for no reason. So now it's basically a desktop that looks like a laptop. I use external monitor, keyboard and mouse :D Hopefully It will survive at least two more years before I get a new computer.)

are u sure it was plastic and not a magnesium alloy?
I believe the outer case is plastic, because it feels like plastic. Maybe the inner frame is metal. I am not sure.

The magnesium may feel like plastic because of the lacquer coating.. but it's probably magnesium if it was a "for work" series laptop
Title: Re: Idle Laptop
Post by: ctm on Wed, 25 March 2015, 19:52:39
The CPU temperature of ASUS laptop (don't but ASUS. The quality is poor) is about 60 to 70. But it's not really idle because I am running BOINC which causes about 15% CPU workload.

I think it's fine to run boinc on laptops, but not "plastic" laptops, because the heat tends to warp the plastic over time. hahahaha..
My old Thinkpad was "plastic" and it seems to be fine after running BOINC for two years. My current ASUS has a metal plate so I guess there won't be problems with this. (But its quality is really poor. In one year of use, I encounter battery problem twice. The laptop does not recognize the battery and I have to remove the battery to plug in again, which is not so easy because it does not have a removable battery design and I have to disassemble the laptop to do so. Also at the time of about one year of use, its screen hinge broke down for no reason. So now it's basically a desktop that looks like a laptop. I use external monitor, keyboard and mouse :D Hopefully It will survive at least two more years before I get a new computer.)

are u sure it was plastic and not a magnesium alloy?
I believe the outer case is plastic, because it feels like plastic. Maybe the inner frame is metal. I am not sure.

The magnesium may feel like plastic because of the lacquer coating.. but it's probably magnesium if it was a "for work" series laptop
You are right. I just google it and find it's indeed made of magnesium alloy with a coating. That explains why Thinkpads are so tough :).
Title: Re: Idle Laptop
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 25 March 2015, 19:54:12
The CPU temperature of ASUS laptop (don't but ASUS. The quality is poor) is about 60 to 70. But it's not really idle because I am running BOINC which causes about 15% CPU workload.

I think it's fine to run boinc on laptops, but not "plastic" laptops, because the heat tends to warp the plastic over time. hahahaha..
My old Thinkpad was "plastic" and it seems to be fine after running BOINC for two years. My current ASUS has a metal plate so I guess there won't be problems with this. (But its quality is really poor. In one year of use, I encounter battery problem twice. The laptop does not recognize the battery and I have to remove the battery to plug in again, which is not so easy because it does not have a removable battery design and I have to disassemble the laptop to do so. Also at the time of about one year of use, its screen hinge broke down for no reason. So now it's basically a desktop that looks like a laptop. I use external monitor, keyboard and mouse :D Hopefully It will survive at least two more years before I get a new computer.)

are u sure it was plastic and not a magnesium alloy?
I believe the outer case is plastic, because it feels like plastic. Maybe the inner frame is metal. I am not sure.

The magnesium may feel like plastic because of the lacquer coating.. but it's probably magnesium if it was a "for work" series laptop
You are right. I just google it and find it's indeed made of magnesium alloy with a coating. That explains why Thinkpads are so tough :).

LOL, yea don't try banging them around though, the later models like my x220 doesn't have the inner carbon fiber layer,  which means it's strong but brittle.
Title: Re: Idle Laptop
Post by: ctm on Wed, 25 March 2015, 21:40:25
The CPU temperature of ASUS laptop (don't but ASUS. The quality is poor) is about 60 to 70. But it's not really idle because I am running BOINC which causes about 15% CPU workload.

I think it's fine to run boinc on laptops, but not "plastic" laptops, because the heat tends to warp the plastic over time. hahahaha..
My old Thinkpad was "plastic" and it seems to be fine after running BOINC for two years. My current ASUS has a metal plate so I guess there won't be problems with this. (But its quality is really poor. In one year of use, I encounter battery problem twice. The laptop does not recognize the battery and I have to remove the battery to plug in again, which is not so easy because it does not have a removable battery design and I have to disassemble the laptop to do so. Also at the time of about one year of use, its screen hinge broke down for no reason. So now it's basically a desktop that looks like a laptop. I use external monitor, keyboard and mouse :D Hopefully It will survive at least two more years before I get a new computer.)

are u sure it was plastic and not a magnesium alloy?
I believe the outer case is plastic, because it feels like plastic. Maybe the inner frame is metal. I am not sure.

The magnesium may feel like plastic because of the lacquer coating.. but it's probably magnesium if it was a "for work" series laptop
You are right. I just google it and find it's indeed made of magnesium alloy with a coating. That explains why Thinkpads are so tough :).

LOL, yea don't try banging them around though, the later models like my x220 doesn't have the inner carbon fiber layer,  which means it's strong but brittle.
I miss how solid my old TP was.
Title: Re: Idle Laptop
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 25 March 2015, 21:44:45
Well, I think pretty much any laptop with Core2duo 2.0+ Ghz is fairly usable "today".. so your old thinkpads arn't really obsolete.

But anything BEFORE c2d, or less than 2ghz would feel pretty slow.
Title: Re: Idle Laptop
Post by: ctm on Thu, 26 March 2015, 07:54:45
Well, I think pretty much any laptop with Core2duo 2.0+ Ghz is fairly usable "today".. so your old thinkpads arn't really obsolete.

But anything BEFORE c2d, or less than 2ghz would feel pretty slow.
Especially when running Linux with a light weight desktop environment like XFCE  :cool:.