I like Chromebooks, but it's not an option. :(
I like Chromebooks, but it's not an option. :(
Really? I've never met a person who uses one..
How / What do you like about it.
I liked my Surface Pro for many reasons, but OneNote and being able to use a mech kb with it top the list. Now I use a Thinkpad Helix 2 tablet. Like it for the same reasons (though I miss the built in stand of the Surface).
This is the only thing on OSX that wets my pants: http://www.secretgeometry.com/apps/cathode/
I don't like thinkpads.
I don't like the retro design.
They overheat.
I don't like the FN key on the left.
OSX eats balls but I love Macbook hardware. Really solid construction, I've had 5 year old macbooks that still function like the day they were bought.
OSX eats balls but I love Macbook hardware. Really solid construction, I've had 5 year old macbooks that still function like the day they were bought.
What do you dislike so much about OSX? Just curious. I was a first time OSX user when I bought my macbook air a few months ago, but so far I quite like it for my uses, which is mainly on-the-go and school usage since I have a nice windows desktop at home.
OSX eats balls but I love Macbook hardware. Really solid construction, I've had 5 year old macbooks that still function like the day they were bought.
What do you dislike so much about OSX? Just curious. I was a first time OSX user when I bought my macbook air a few months ago, but so far I quite like it for my uses, which is mainly on-the-go and school usage since I have a nice windows desktop at home.
Just the hand-holding nature of Apple products in general kind of piss me off. So often I want to change something and then I find out you can only do it by loading 3rd party apps or doing some insane terminal hacking.
I'm a tinkerer at heart though so I know I'm not their target market, Linux is my true home :)
This is the only thing on OSX that wets my pants: http://www.secretgeometry.com/apps/cathode/
when I am rich, i use a macbook. when i am poor i use a thinkpad. true story...
I don't like thinkpads.
I don't like the retro design.
They overheat.
I don't like the FN key on the left.
Not the T series..
the T series hasn't overheated since the Pentium M days..Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion_custom/th_0fire.gif)
Really? I am currently using a macbook.when I am rich, i use a macbook. when i am poor i use a thinkpad. true story...
Hahahahha.. this is precisely how poor people think
Really? I am currently using a macbook.when I am rich, i use a macbook. when i am poor i use a thinkpad. true story...
Hahahahha.. this is precisely how poor people think
For my uses, both are overkill. I'm running a 6yo HP that was only worth about $400-500 new. Throw linux on an SSD and it does everything I need it to do.
For my uses, both are overkill. I'm running a 6yo HP that was only worth about $400-500 new. Throw linux on an SSD and it does everything I need it to do.
6yrs is right around c2d.. anything pentium m / athlon 64 3xxx , that's usually too slow
For my uses, both are overkill. I'm running a 6yo HP that was only worth about $400-500 new. Throw linux on an SSD and it does everything I need it to do.
6yrs is right around c2d.. anything pentium m / athlon 64 3xxx , that's usually too slow
Athlon neo MV-40, IIRC. It's fast enough to do basic web browsing, coding for school, and doesn't lag when I type. I have newer and faster machines (laptops and desktops), but this one has a smaller form factor and is still the one I go to for day-to-day use.
My personal opinion is that it's not too slow until it can't do what I want it to do.
Had to grab a Macbook for school, but honestly not a huge fan of OSX.
Tell me how a macbook is overpriced? Sure some of them are, but not all of them. I have never been an Apple fan, but when I was looking for a thin/lightweight/good battery life/i5/ssd ultrabook a few months ago, I found nothing that compared. I ended up buying an 11" macbook air with an i5, 120gb ssd, 8gb of ram, 9 hrs of battery life for $900 Cad, and there was nothing running windows for a similar price..
How are they not overpriced? They (Apple) have always been the most expensive PC on the market. The laptops start at ~$1000 and the desktops can go over $15,000.
How are they not overpriced? They (Apple) have always been the most expensive PC on the market. The laptops start at ~$1000 and the desktops can go over $15,000.
I ended up buying an 11" macbook air with an i5, 120gb ssd, 8gb of ram, 9 hrs of battery life for $900 Cad, and there was nothing running windows for a similar price..
I've been purchasing laptops a couple of times a year for over a decade. You can always find something comparable $200-$400 cheaper if you shop around. The specs you quoted come out to $999 not $899.
I did shop around. I am asking for a specific example please. There aren't many options in Canada near that price. And if you add the student discount + a Visa promotion that was running when I bought mine, that is how I got it down to $900 CAD.
Thinkpads, because I can upgrade parts on them without wanting to defenestrate the designer. Just did a RAM swap tonight, and it took <60 to do two machines.
If you know of any equivalent laptops that aren't macs for better specs or budget please let me know!
If you know of any equivalent laptops that aren't macs for better specs or budget please let me know!
Dell XPS 13.
It's about the same price, much more powerful CPUs, more options, standard 1080p display, better battery life.
Compared with the 13" MB Air, it's a strong competitor.
If you know of any equivalent laptops that aren't macs for better specs or budget please let me know!
Dell XPS 13.
It's about the same price, much more powerful CPUs, more options, standard 1080p display, better battery life.
Compared with the 13" MB Air, it's a strong competitor.
Yeah the Dell XPS 13 seems to be the best competitor. I probably would have bought the Dell had I wanted a 13" laptop.
I miss the old ThinkPad keyboard layout (with the proper Nav Cluster). The new ones are a let down.
If you know of any equivalent laptops that aren't macs for better specs or budget please let me know!
Dell XPS 13.
It's about the same price, much more powerful CPUs, more options, standard 1080p display, better battery life.
Compared with the 13" MB Air, it's a strong competitor.
Yeah the Dell XPS 13 seems to be the best competitor. I probably would have bought the Dell had I wanted a 13" laptop.
I miss the old ThinkPad keyboard layout (with the proper Nav Cluster). The new ones are a let down.
I think people are nostalgic of the Old "BRICKS" , sure they're sturdy, but they're bricks..
This is nostalgia, which in this case is against practicality.. you just can't carry it around
I miss the old ThinkPad keyboard layout (with the proper Nav Cluster). The new ones are a let down.
I think people are nostalgic of the Old "BRICKS" , sure they're sturdy, but they're bricks..
This is nostalgia, which in this case is against practicality.. you just can't carry it around
Just to be clear, I don't miss the computer itself. I miss the keyboard layout. It was the perfect combination of spacesaving and functionality.
I've been using a Lenovo x230 for the past two years and have really loved every moment with it. Despite the annoyingly low resolution, and newer keyboard design, there's really not much I dislike about it. It's light enough that I can carry it around with other textbooks and not have it put any strain on my back. I recently just swapped out the spinner in favor of a Samsung 840 256GB SSD and holy crap, it's like a brand new machine again. I'm really not a huge fan of some of the changes Lenovo has made to the thinkpad lineup, so I'll likely be using this until I'm forced to buy something else, and when I do, it would likely be a Microsoft Surface or something similar.
I liked the MacBook Pros and Thinkpads before they ruined the keyboards. Both had exceptional keyboards until just a couple of years ago.
Apple still sells the non-retina, thicker MacBook pro with the good keyboard, but the computer itself is outdated and I'm not sure why it's still around.
The Lenovo G510 has a great keyboard, but most of the newer ones have moved to a shallower depth (like the Apples), making them light and shallow.
I miss the old ThinkPad keyboard layout (with the proper Nav Cluster). The new ones are a let down.
I think people are nostalgic of the Old "BRICKS" , sure they're sturdy, but they're bricks..
This is nostalgia, which in this case is against practicality.. you just can't carry it around
I miss the old ThinkPad keyboard layout (with the proper Nav Cluster). The new ones are a let down.
I think people are nostalgic of the Old "BRICKS" , sure they're sturdy, but they're bricks..
This is nostalgia, which in this case is against practicality.. you just can't carry it around
Just to be clear, I don't miss the computer itself. I miss the keyboard layout. It was the perfect combination of spacesaving and functionality.
which cluster specifically, there's been many iterations over the years.
I miss the old ThinkPad keyboard layout (with the proper Nav Cluster). The new ones are a let down.
I think people are nostalgic of the Old "BRICKS" , sure they're sturdy, but they're bricks..
This is nostalgia, which in this case is against practicality.. you just can't carry it around
Just to be clear, I don't miss the computer itself. I miss the keyboard layout. It was the perfect combination of spacesaving and functionality.
which cluster specifically, there's been many iterations over the years.
The ThinkPad X220 was the last good one IMO.
For my uses, both are overkill. I'm running a 6yo HP that was only worth about $400-500 new. Throw linux on an SSD and it does everything I need it to do.
6yrs is right around c2d.. anything pentium m / athlon 64 3xxx , that's usually too slow
Athlon neo MV-40, IIRC. It's fast enough to do basic web browsing, coding for school, and doesn't lag when I type. I have newer and faster machines (laptops and desktops), but this one has a smaller form factor and is still the one I go to for day-to-day use.
My personal opinion is that it's not too slow until it can't do what I want it to do.
That is not usable.. lies... passmark 400 points..
anything less than 1000 is going to be SLOW
anything less than 700 is going to be VERY VERY slow even for firefox..
ThinkPads and MacBook Pro's were good back in around 2010-2011 when they had optical drives, some expandability, ports and really good keyboards.
After that, they have got progressively worse. I want none of them.
Just got assigned a new Thinkpad at work.
The trackpad is ****ing atrocious. Like easily the worst I have ever dealt with. The click motion is about 6" down and back up, which knocks you off what you're doing. It's virtually unusable. I'm not a fan of tap-to-click (accidental input), so that's not an option. No one beats Apple on trackpad tech/software. No one.
Just got assigned a new Thinkpad at work.
The trackpad is ****ing atrocious. Like easily the worst I have ever dealt with. The click motion is about 6" down and back up, which knocks you off what you're doing. It's virtually unusable. I'm not a fan of tap-to-click (accidental input), so that's not an option. No one beats Apple on trackpad tech/software. No one.
Just got assigned a new Thinkpad at work.
The trackpad is ****ing atrocious. Like easily the worst I have ever dealt with. The click motion is about 6" down and back up, which knocks you off what you're doing. It's virtually unusable. I'm not a fan of tap-to-click (accidental input), so that's not an option. No one beats Apple on trackpad tech/software. No one.
The trackpads are one of the biggest selling points for me on Macbooks, no-one does them better. My 5 year old MBP pad was like a million times better than the near new Lenovo one I had.
The software wasn't too bad, it just felt flimsy to me compared to the Macbook. It was a low end lenovo though so I can't speak for the higher end models.Just got assigned a new Thinkpad at work.
The trackpad is ****ing atrocious. Like easily the worst I have ever dealt with. The click motion is about 6" down and back up, which knocks you off what you're doing. It's virtually unusable. I'm not a fan of tap-to-click (accidental input), so that's not an option. No one beats Apple on trackpad tech/software. No one.
The trackpads are one of the biggest selling points for me on Macbooks, no-one does them better. My 5 year old MBP pad was like a million times better than the near new Lenovo one I had.
not true.. it comes down to the ultranav software.. by default it's kinda buggy, but they perform equivalently once properly configured.
Just got assigned a new Thinkpad at work.
The trackpad is ****ing atrocious. Like easily the worst I have ever dealt with. The click motion is about 6" down and back up, which knocks you off what you're doing. It's virtually unusable. I'm not a fan of tap-to-click (accidental input), so that's not an option. No one beats Apple on trackpad tech/software. No one.
The trackpads are one of the biggest selling points for me on Macbooks, no-one does them better. My 5 year old MBP pad was like a million times better than the near new Lenovo one I had.