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geekhack Community => Off Topic => Topic started by: rowdy on Fri, 27 March 2015, 04:05:26
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Welcome to Australia, the lucky country.
http://www.itnews.com.au/News/402127,australia-passes-data-retention-into-law.aspx
Telcos and internet service providers will now have 18 months to prepare their systems and processes for the scheme, which has been forecast to cost between $188.8 million and $319.1 million to set up, and around $4 per customer per year to maintain.
They will be required to store the non-content data of all customers for a two-year period to aid law enforcement agencies in criminal investigations. Telcos and ISPs are not restricted in where they can store the data.
The metadata list will include, among other things:
- names, addresses, birthdates, financial and billing information of internet and phone account holders;
- traffic data such as numbers called and texted, as well as times and dates of communications;
- when and where online communications services start and end;
- a user’s IP address;
- type and location of communication equipment; and
- upload and download volumes.
Anyone else have something like this? And what do people in your country think of it?[/list]
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Sounds awful.
It's anti consumer in that they are now demanding third parties to store peoples sensitive information and then making these companies (and thus the consumer) pay for it. Another win for the terrorists?
Australia isn't the only country having to deal with this stupid ****, the UK is trying and has brought in all manner of appalling laws aimed at limiting freedoms under the banner of 'fighting terrorism'... luckily we still have the EU forcing us into obeying some freedoms.
Didn't they pass a law in the state of Victoria to essentially ban protesting? (I might be wrong about the state) It was something like, you can protest, but if the Police ask you to leave (regardless of your protest being peaceful etc) you have to leave and if you don't can be arrested?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/12/victorian-anti-protest-laws-passed-amid-outcry-from-public-gallery (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/12/victorian-anti-protest-laws-passed-amid-outcry-from-public-gallery)
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Sick of this ****, seriously starting to wonder why I stick around with the economy the way it is and the liberals running the country into the ground in record time.
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I'm less concerned about the data retention in and of itself and more worried about warrantless access and the fact that it's the ISPs who have to do it, they are too tempting a target, and they'll just pass the costs on making net access even more expensive here.
Not to mention the fact that with VPNs being so common the specific legislation is about as effective as a wet noodle.
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Sounds awful.
It's anti consumer in that they are now demanding third parties to store peoples sensitive information and then making these companies (and thus the consumer) pay for it. Another win for the terrorists?
Australia isn't the only country having to deal with this stupid ****, the UK is trying and has brought in all manner of appalling laws aimed at limiting freedoms under the banner of 'fighting terrorism'... luckily we still have the EU forcing us into obeying some freedoms.
Didn't they pass a law in the state of Victoria to essentially ban protesting? (I might be wrong about the state) It was something like, you can protest, but if the Police ask you to leave (regardless of your protest being peaceful etc) you have to leave and if you don't can be arrested?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/12/victorian-anti-protest-laws-passed-amid-outcry-from-public-gallery (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/12/victorian-anti-protest-laws-passed-amid-outcry-from-public-gallery)
"... an attempt by the Victorian government to shut down protest on ..." anything they want.
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I'm less concerned about the data retention in and of itself and more worried about warrantless access and the fact that it's the ISPs who have to do it, they are too tempting a target, and they'll just pass the costs on making net access even more expensive here.
Not to mention the fact that with VPNs being so common the specific legislation is about as effective as a wet noodle.
iiNet was protesting against this on many valid reasons, and documenting their protest.
It will be interesting to see how they respond to this.
Rowdy is iiNet customer.
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Is 'The Chasers War on Everything' still running??
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I'm less concerned about the data retention in and of itself and more worried about warrantless access and the fact that it's the ISPs who have to do it, they are too tempting a target, and they'll just pass the costs on making net access even more expensive here.
Not to mention the fact that with VPNs being so common the specific legislation is about as effective as a wet noodle.
iiNet was protesting against this on many valid reasons, and documenting their protest.
It will be interesting to see how they respond to this.
Rowdy is iiNet customer.
Wonder how long that will last now TPG is muscling in on iinet.
TPG's service itself is alright, right up until it isn't and then support is crap. I can't see them continuing to allow iinet to maintain principled stands on things, especially when it costs them money to fight it in the courts, never mind those principled stands are why iinet has the customer base that it does..
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hey quick question is every male in ashtrayliuh called chase?
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Not to mention the fact that with VPNs being so common the specific legislation is about as effective as a wet noodle.
I've already upgraded my VPN, I don't want the government snooping on my every move.
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hey quick question is every male in ashtrayliuh called chase?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d0/Karl_Kennedy.jpg)
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I thought Australians just did stuff outside 100% of the time.
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Get too many flies on the screen taking the computer outside.
Is that the mouse pointer, why isn't it moving? Oh, it's just another fly. Just don't try to swat them while they're on the screen!
Plus the bright sunlight makes it hard to read the screen.
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Time to create your own internet.
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Don't worry it's just our NSA and other intelligence agencies looking out for you.
Your Welcome!
God bless the Western World!
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Time to create your own internet.
I keep thinking about this... with so many over-lapping wifi networks it can only be a matter of time..
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But if you use some encrypted protocol over the existing infrastructure they think you're up to no good, even if you are jut trying to protect your privacy!
You'd need to install your own infrastructure, which would require ... government approval.
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It seems like the government there is really, really anti-citizen. What's up with that?
That said, I work in the land of e-discovery and this is fully fascinating to me. Lots of business to eat up there, I bet!
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tony abbott eats raw onions
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It seems like the government there is really, really anti-citizen. What's up with that?
It is anti-Earth as well, having opposed treaties battling climate change.
And Tony Abbott is apparently a ****head (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3IaKVmkXuk).
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It seems like the government there is really, really anti-citizen. What's up with that?
It is anti-Earth as well, having opposed treaties battling climate change.
And Tony Abbott is apparently a ****head (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3IaKVmkXuk).
Wow.
I would ask how he got elected, but we elected George W. Bush twice in the USA. It always amazes me how elections are effectively bought by corporations and it's apparently totally cool.
Sorry, Australia. I'm sure this is the US's fault somehow. And I'm not being facetious. We've ruined politics pretty well.
:(
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No-one had heard about Australian.
Then the Aussie army was sent in to fight terrorists in some overseas country.
Now everyone knows where we are.
You can run, but you can't hide!
I think Elrick's got the right idea - live way out in the outback somewhere, where no-one but the flies can find you.