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Title: Trickey: a kickstarter custom keybaord
Post by: thefebruaryman on Mon, 30 March 2015, 16:00:35
Just found this this on kickstarter. Looks interesting. Can't tell what the switches are though.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/252587878/trickey-any-key-anywhere?ref=category_featured
Title: Re: Trickey: a kickstarter custom keybaord
Post by: saturnotaku on Mon, 30 March 2015, 16:02:49
$139 for 6 switches? No thank you.
Title: Re: Trickey: a kickstarter custom keybaord
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 30 March 2015, 16:07:05
Reminds me of this https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48326.0

And did I miss it or did the kickstarter not mention switch type?
Title: Re: Trickey: a kickstarter custom keybaord
Post by: plegnic on Mon, 30 March 2015, 16:08:18
My favorite part is that the example (someone using a drawing tablet) is horrible because that tablet already has 4 software-assignable buttons plus 2 more on the pen. That tablet is not much more expensive than their 6-key keyboard.

Edit: https://store.wacom.com/us/en/product/CTH680/ (https://store.wacom.com/us/en/product/CTH680/)
Title: Re: Trickey: a kickstarter custom keybaord
Post by: thefebruaryman on Mon, 30 March 2015, 16:09:50
$139 for 6 switches? No thank you.

Thats what I thought. Would much rather buy a cheap little switch tester and slap a teensy in it. Shame my electronic skills suck.
Title: Re: Trickey: a kickstarter custom keybaord
Post by: saturnotaku on Mon, 30 March 2015, 16:12:03
Thats what I thought. Would much rather buy a cheap little switch tester and slap a teensy in it. Shame my electronic skills suck

You could probably pay a GH'er with soldering skills and still come out way ahead compared to this.
Title: Re: Trickey: a kickstarter custom keybaord
Post by: thefebruaryman on Mon, 30 March 2015, 16:15:05
Thats what I thought. Would much rather buy a cheap little switch tester and slap a teensy in it. Shame my electronic skills suck

You could probably pay a GH'er with soldering skills and still come out way ahead compared to this.

Wish I had the spare cash but need me a second HHKb pro 2 for home first. One is not enough :)
Title: Re: Trickey: a kickstarter custom keybaord
Post by: Air tree on Mon, 30 March 2015, 16:28:46
This seems vastly overpriced...
Title: Re: Trickey: a kickstarter custom keybaord
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 30 March 2015, 16:36:58
how is this $140

i could make something similar for ~10% of that

i might do it too, simply to spite this idiocy
Title: Re: Trickey: a kickstarter custom keybaord
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 30 March 2015, 16:46:35
Oh,  God no
Title: Re: Trickey: a kickstarter custom keybaord
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 30 March 2015, 17:00:42
This seems vastly overpriced...

You just don't understand the R&D costs

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/a6487c623de001bfec9f8fbf88ce6648/tumblr_mlcjmyszR71qjeigjo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Trickey: a kickstarter custom keybaord
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 30 March 2015, 17:46:00
It would cost a fortune to build even a 60% keyboard out of these. In their price range there are so many better options for anything you may use these for. Seems like a huge gimmick to me. Just buy the keyboard or macro pad you need, then play with legos.
Title: Re: Trickey: a kickstarter custom keybaord
Post by: FoC_Tow on Mon, 30 March 2015, 18:02:38
$139 for 6 switches? No thank you.

Thats what I thought. Would much rather buy a cheap little switch tester and slap a teensy in it. Shame my electronic skills suck.

+1 definitely seems way overpriced for 6 switch.

I get that it has the additional build in support to connect multiple, but it seem pretty gimmicky and would get crazy expensive...
Title: Re: Trickey: a kickstarter custom keybaord
Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 30 March 2015, 20:45:56
dat price lol
Title: Re: Trickey: a kickstarter custom keybaord
Post by: ideus on Mon, 30 March 2015, 23:46:01
This is either, and expensive toy, or an hilarious joke.
Title: Re: Trickey: a kickstarter custom keybaord
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 31 March 2015, 00:00:23
Yea this is Way too expensive.. LOL..

But if the price came down.. it's fine..
Title: Re: Trickey: a kickstarter custom keybaord
Post by: bueller on Tue, 31 March 2015, 00:21:51
Better idea. Make something that you can clip an MX switch into with a spot underneath for an enabler PCB. Make the switch holder so they can be snapped together on the sides and then a frame that will hold them all together vertically and then you could build both staggered and matrix layouts.

Title: Re: Trickey: a kickstarter custom keybaord
Post by: Oobly on Tue, 31 March 2015, 01:31:14
So... numpad + AHK can do the same thing, only with more keys available and for a lot less money... point = ???
Title: Re: Trickey: a kickstarter custom keybaord
Post by: Wilba on Tue, 31 March 2015, 01:43:04
Even if the price was better, it's still a bulky, complex and expensive solution just to have the identity of the key bound to the physical switch.

Why not just have 3x2 blocks of mini-matrix keyboards that connect together, swap caps as you like, and change key assignments via upload?

I can't believe people are actually backing this...  :eek:
Title: Re: Trickey: a kickstarter custom keybaord
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 01 April 2015, 11:36:38
I did confirm with the creator these use cherry MX switches if that wasn't mentioned anywhere.
Title: Re: Trickey: a kickstarter custom keybaord
Post by: Baron Von Clop on Wed, 01 April 2015, 12:07:22
Actually a neat idea but holy god that price is insane.
Title: Re: Trickey: a kickstarter custom keybaord
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 01 April 2015, 12:32:45
Even if the price was better, it's still a bulky, complex and expensive solution just to have the identity of the key bound to the physical switch.

Why not just have 3x2 blocks of mini-matrix keyboards that connect together, swap caps as you like, and change key assignments via upload?

I can't believe people are actually backing this...  :eek:
Ignorance is bliss I guess
Title: Re: Trickey: a kickstarter custom keybaord
Post by: mougrim on Thu, 02 April 2015, 06:23:01
Sad bastards...
Title: Re: Trickey: a kickstarter custom keybaord
Post by: qwack on Thu, 02 April 2015, 07:15:39
This seems vastly overpriced...

Well... technically, as long as enough people are ready to pay for it, it's not overpriced  ;D

Title: Re: Trickey: a kickstarter custom keybaord
Post by: Rule16 on Thu, 02 April 2015, 22:08:32
Interesting, but I would rather buy soldering equipment, and then learn how to use it for this price.
Title: Re: Trickey: a kickstarter custom keybaord
Post by: ctm on Fri, 03 April 2015, 17:49:49
That's interesting, but very pricey. I think it should be $50 max. Maybe it's a startup so all costs are high?
Title: Re: Trickey: a kickstarter custom keybaord
Post by: Data on Fri, 03 April 2015, 21:27:09
That's interesting, but very pricey. I think it should be $50 max. Maybe it's a startup so all costs are high?
Well, yeah.  It's Kickstarter.  This is a fundraising campaign, not a storefront.  You're pledging to start a business and getting a little piece of it (usually the main product) in return.  That's how Kickstarter is supposed to be used.  It's not a group buy.
Title: Re: Trickey: a kickstarter custom keybaord
Post by: Findecanor on Fri, 03 April 2015, 22:16:40
There is already the X-keys (http://xkeys.com/XkeysKeyboards/index.php), which has the same use except not being extendable with more modules. I thought that X-keys was expensive. $100 for a stick of 4, 8 or 16 keys.
Title: Re: Trickey: a kickstarter custom keybaord
Post by: sypl on Sat, 04 April 2015, 13:44:35
Better idea. Make something that you can clip an MX switch into with a spot underneath for an enabler PCB. Make the switch holder so they can be snapped together on the sides and then a frame that will hold them all together vertically and then you could build both staggered and matrix layouts.

Yep, this is the right idea. I've thought about this before but couldn't wrap my head around what the design would look like, how'd they'd connect etc.
Title: Re: Trickey: a kickstarter custom keybaord
Post by: septamber on Sat, 04 April 2015, 23:34:09
This is the future. Embrace it.  :))