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Title: What's the diff between Customizer 101 and 102/103?
Post by: ironcoder on Mon, 07 September 2009, 09:16:43

The pictures make it hard to tell.

Title: What's the diff between Customizer 101 and 102/103?
Post by: timw4mail on Mon, 07 September 2009, 10:53:20

The Windows keys, I'm pretty sure.

Title: What's the diff between Customizer 101 and 102/103?
Post by: ironcoder on Mon, 07 September 2009, 11:10:55

That's what I thought when I saw "102/103" in the description but I don't see any Windows keys in the pic

Title: What's the diff between Customizer 101 and 102/103?
Post by: cmr on Mon, 07 September 2009, 17:16:07

i believe it is the international layouts

Title: What's the diff between Customizer 101 and 102/103?
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 07 September 2009, 17:28:33

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The Windows keys, I'm pretty sure.

Lowut?

It is, as has been correctly pointed out, the ISO version of the Customizer. Surely the different enter key in the picture would have given it away?

Title: What's the diff between Customizer 101 and 102/103?
Post by: ironcoder on Tue, 08 September 2009, 02:06:00

Quote from: cmr;115590

i believe it is the international layouts

Sharp eye you have there. Now that you mention it, I see a latin C with a squiggly thing on the bottom. Thanks guys.

Title: What's the diff between Customizer 101 and 102/103?
Post by: quadibloc on Tue, 08 September 2009, 07:33:56

This had me curious. There is the 101-key U.S. layout, and the 102-key International layout, with a key between Z and the left-hand space, and a different Enter key.

But what's a 103-key keyboard? 104-key and 105-key keyboards are the 101-key and 102-key keyboards with the Windows keys added. Yes, I've seen 103-key keyboards where one Windows key is omitted, or they left out Scroll Lock, but that's Logitech, not Unicomp.

So I went to the Unicomp page. And, sure enough, there was a link for 102/103 key terminal keyboards.

Following that link, though, I saw a picture of what looked like a 101-key keyboard. Same Enter key, same spacebar:

http://pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net/10keyterkey.html

But the key where the * key on the numeric keypad is, is white instead of buff. And the + key on the numeric keypad is split in two.

So that 102-key keyboard is not an international layout keyboard; the 103-key keyboard is its international version. These are keyboards that won't plug in to a PC, but are designed for 3153 or 5250 terminals - and the numeric keypad has an extra key because it follows the design of the one on the 122-key keyboard.

So that's the difference between 101/102 and 102/103.

EDIT: But wait a moment. There's another link, to Customizer 102/103 Pearl White. If I follow that link, I do see a picture of an international keyboard. Is the "/103" a typo? Perhaps it should be Customizer 102/106 Pearl White, to include the Japanese layout?

Title: What's the diff between Customizer 101 and 102/103?
Post by: ch_123 on Tue, 08 September 2009, 08:50:09

Yeah, Dell referred to their Japanese ATs as AT-103s, even though they had the 106-key Japanese layout (I think Sandy explained why this was the case once, but I can't remember the details)

But yeah, the Customizer 102 is definitely the ISO version of the 42H1292.