Looks like a teensy style controller in the top right.. what actually is it using?There's no breakout board or anything like a teensy. It uses an atmega32.
All you need to solder is :
Switches
Diodes (you can do either throughhole in the switch or SMD on the PCB)
LEDs (optional)
Resistors for LEDs
DV, if you're going to be doing a GB for this, could you try and find out if it'd be possible to add ISO support? I want a NKRO ISO 3000 PCB pretty bad.
Just wondering, how is this one different from the one in offered in the TX1800 GB?
He means thisJust wondering, how is this one different from the one in offered in the TX1800 GB?
This is a full size PCB
2) PCB + Plate Combo
Leeku PCB + Plate = USD 70
•3000 layout also available for the same price
[/quote]He means thisJust wondering, how is this one different from the one in offered in the TX1800 GB?
This is a full size PCB
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2) PCB + Plate Combo
Leeku PCB + Plate = USD 70
•3000 layout also available for the same price
All you need to solder is :
Switches
Diodes (you can do either throughhole in the switch or SMD on the PCB)
LEDs (optional)
Resistors for LEDs
DV, if you're going to be doing a GB for this, could you try and find out if it'd be possible to add ISO support? I want a NKRO ISO 3000 PCB pretty bad.
Hmm, if this PCB was already part of a Gb then there's no need for this here.He means thisJust wondering, how is this one different from the one in offered in the TX1800 GB?
This is a full size PCB
2) PCB + Plate Combo
Leeku PCB + Plate = USD 70
�3000 layout also available for the same price
All you need to solder is :
Switches
Diodes (you can do either throughhole in the switch or SMD on the PCB)
LEDs (optional)
Resistors for LEDs
DV, if you're going to be doing a GB for this, could you try and find out if it'd be possible to add ISO support? I want a NKRO ISO 3000 PCB pretty bad.
i will look into it. If not I would probably be able to mod one of the PCBs to support ISO for you.
edit: if someone wants to design a PCB that supports ISO I'd be glad to do a GB for it instead.Hmm, if this PCB was already part of a Gb then there's no need for this here.He means thisJust wondering, how is this one different from the one in offered in the TX1800 GB?
This is a full size PCB
2) PCB + Plate Combo
Leeku PCB + Plate = USD 70
�3000 layout also available for the same price
All you need to solder is :
Switches
Diodes (you can do either throughhole in the switch or SMD on the PCB)
LEDs (optional)
Resistors for LEDs
DV, if you're going to be doing a GB for this, could you try and find out if it'd be possible to add ISO support? I want a NKRO ISO 3000 PCB pretty bad.
i will look into it. If not I would probably be able to mod one of the PCBs to support ISO for you.
edit: if someone wants to design a PCB that supports ISO I'd be glad to do a GB for it instead.Hmm, if this PCB was already part of a Gb then there's no need for this here.He means thisJust wondering, how is this one different from the one in offered in the TX1800 GB?
This is a full size PCB
2) PCB + Plate Combo
Leeku PCB + Plate = USD 70
�3000 layout also available for the same price
There are extra 3000 pcbs and plates.
If we could get the SMD diodes and resistors done pick and place so it comes ready to go I would be down. Otherwise... forget it. I had TONS of trouble trying to do the leeku 1800 I had and no interest in a repeat of that fiasco.
Also, I don't want to be forced to buy a plate I wouldn't ever use either. It's just wasting money.
I had TONS of trouble trying to do the leeku 1800 I had and no interest in a repeat of that fiasco.Do you have experience doing SMD work on other KBS like the ergodox or a GON, or is the Leeku 1800 particularly difficult?
Also, I don't want to be forced to buy a plate I wouldn't ever use either. It's just wasting money.This will not be a problem, though prices on plates might be a little higher.
I would rather have high resistance where blue and white are somewhat dim if we can get them soldered in. As far as PCB designers AND plate designers, I know MonsterMask, the man who runs winkeyless might be willing to help. Although, I would prefer if it is custom, it would fit in cherry cases like the Leeku PCB and Plate does.diodes make sense because they are all the same. Resistors... maybe. Since there is a huge difference is Vf across different LED colours, you have two options: Guess high and have all LEDs work (and blue/white are a little dim) or guess low and keep from overcurrent on the red/orange LEDs by PWM controlling the LED matrix.MoreIf we could get the SMD diodes and resistors done pick and place so it comes ready to go I would be down. Otherwise... forget it. I had TONS of trouble trying to do the leeku 1800 I had and no interest in a repeat of that fiasco.
Also, I don't want to be forced to buy a plate I wouldn't ever use either. It's just wasting money.
Now if we get PCBs from Leeku this is likely not possible. If we make our own pcb... the sky's the limit. P&P, ISO, NKRO, backlighting, etc. are all possible.
Honestly I'm in favor of making our own, but I really don't have the PCB-design skill (yet) to wing this. So if you can hook me up with a PCB designer, I can throw the gerber at various shops and see what their prices are for P&P. We'll also either to use a teensy or get someone to program the raw chips with bootloaders (and firmware, why not?).
Unfortunately for this many keys, we'll either need a teensy++2.0 (which isn't compatible with all the firmwares) or an atmega 32u4 (which works with just about everything) and some shift registers or whatever.
I never got why people got only some things P&P but didn't bother to get the diodes done. I realize that diodes, LEDs or jumpers should always be installed in a PCB-mount KB (to stabilize the switch) but including solder holes for jumpers and normal LED holes should pacify everyone. B'sides there are lots of KBs that people use PCB mount without them (eg poker X) and it's fine. Anyway throwing diodes in there isn't going to hurt anything. Installing your own diodes won't do anything different (afaik) and jumpering them will have the same effect. If a "good answer" to the LED resistor problem (I like the "guess high" version) is made, then there's no reason to leave SMD resistors out either.
Actually, the more I think of this, the more I want to make is a little "less custom" and "more manageable". True custom people can desolder the stuff there and make it how they want, and everyone else (which is at least 90% I think) will be just fine with the acceptable defaults.I had TONS of trouble trying to do the leeku 1800 I had and no interest in a repeat of that fiasco.Do you have experience doing SMD work on other KBS like the ergodox or a GON, or is the Leeku 1800 particularly difficult?Also, I don't want to be forced to buy a plate I wouldn't ever use either. It's just wasting money.This will not be a problem, though prices on plates might be a little higher.
Oh if there are plates they will be stainless steel unless there is significant outcry. Aluminium plates are worthless IMO.
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I would rather have high resistance where blue and white are somewhat dim if we can get them soldered in. As far as PCB designers AND plate designers, I know MonsterMask, the man who runs winkeyless might be willing to help. Although, I would prefer if it is custom, it would fit in cherry cases like the Leeku PCB and Plate does.
Interested.I'm sure with 3000 but 1000 is maybe.
Are the G8*-1000 and G8*-3000 cases compatible as well?
It's meant to be used with 3000 case, but some 1000 case would work too. It really depend on which revision as case internals are different. Some earlier one may require some modding, and maybe it won't go together very good anymore with PCB 'floating' inside the case. Later ones would be best as they had put 3000 PCB inside them anyway, you can tell by the FCC ID on the sticker, it say 3000 instead.Thank you very much for the info Ivan! :thumb:
Sure it is choice if you want to use plate... but one of the issues with stock G80 at least with production from the last 10 year or so is the PCB are thin and flimsy. When I compared to the leeku 1800 PCB it was thicker and definitely more rigid so it feel much more solid even without a plate.
Confirm leeku is thinner than cherry. So It is easy to curve.
I'm assuming this isn't really a thing anymore? I'm sure we could get enough orders to do a GB, I'd certainly be interested in oneYes, please make it happen :thumb:
If this happen, we should extend both 1800 layout?I agree, that way it would be an easy source to obtain both 3000 and 1800
I know leeku personally and have talked to him about selling his pcbs direct. If there is enough interest I am willing to coordinate with him about getting a buy together.
I know leeku personally and have talked to him about selling his pcbs direct. If there is enough interest I am willing to coordinate with him about getting a buy together.
If it has alps and MX compatibility then I'd be in for two. Otherwise just one.
Cheers,
K