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Title: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: trauring on Sun, 19 April 2015, 05:16:39
Super impressed with the Gateron GB which generated orders for more than 115K switches.

I was wondering about Greetech switches, which are now being used in the Das Keyboard 4C series. There are not many mentions of them in the forums - does anyone have a Das Keyboard 4C that can expound on their feel and quality? Has anyone managed to get their hands on these switches separate from a Das 4C?

Looking at their site (http://www.greetech.com/en/products.asp?enBigClassName=GT02%20Keyswitch) and at Alibaba pages (such as http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/2015-key-switch-keyswitch-for-keyboard_60074508452.html) it seems they offer Red, Blue, Brown and Black versions, and if I'm not mistaken they offer both plate and PCB mounted versions, and versions with built-in diodes (it seems to me that the version with built-in diodes cannot support LEDs as they show a different PCB layout for those - although without seeing them, who knows). There also is an RGB LED version that can support the four pins of an RGB LED (I've attached a PDF of the spec of their RGB switch).

Their MOQ is 6000 switches (which is their carton size, so multiples of 6000 might be required) although on some version it says 5000. It seems like the costs shown go down as low as 10 cents per switch, although I don't know what quantities or which version of the switches that price relates to.

They offer to send 110 switches as a free sample to people interested in ordering. I don't know if that could include different versions of the switches, or if they would send 110 switches of each version, etc.

I'm not located in a good country to do re-shipping of switches from, but I wanted to see if people might be interested in pursuing these switches, and then we can find out who could handle the re-shipping. I'm perfectly happy to hand this off to someone who has done a group buy before and has the experience to do it well. I'm just interested in gauging interest in the switches and to try to get things started.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 19 April 2015, 14:09:31
I wouldn't mind trying them out and if they are not junk I could handle a groupbuy. It can never hurt to have another option for source of cheap MX alternatives. I tired to email them but it keeps getting kicked back as undeliverable...  :confused:
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: wlhlm on Sun, 19 April 2015, 14:22:20
I have Red, Black, Blue and Brown switches from them. I got them together with a number of other MX-compatible switches (I hope that's the correct name, mods :-\). I made a big comparison (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/coz27bp) of them on Reddit.

Quick summary:

If you disregard the the super cheap price (if $.10 is true), I think the most interesting switch is the Greetech Brown, because of its tactility. Before I did the test, I heard that the switch is more tactile than Cherry MX Brown and I hoped it's similar to an Ergo Clear. This isn't the case and I still prefer the Ergo Clears, but I'd say if you lube them they are a way better version of MX Browns. :thumb:

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 April 2015, 14:43:44
I'd *love* a sample of switches.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 19 April 2015, 15:31:27
I'd certainly be interested in a sample
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 19 April 2015, 15:54:09
Yep
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: Spopepro on Sun, 19 April 2015, 18:08:17
4pin RGB LED compatible blues would be really, really interesting to me.  All other RGB compatible switches are for SMD LEDs.  However, I have not seen 3mm common cathode through hole RGB LEDs before, but I haven't looked too hard TBH.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: LXXXIX on Sun, 19 April 2015, 18:53:42
Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 April 2015, 14:43:44
I'd *love* a sample of switches.

Maybe you can make a review like you did with the Gateron Blacks? :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: TheMadcap on Sun, 19 April 2015, 19:49:11
I'd be interested both rgb brown and normal brown switches.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 19 April 2015, 21:14:36
Quote from: wlhlm on Sun, 19 April 2015, 14:22:20
I have Red, Black, Blue and Brown switches from them. I got them together with a number of other MX-compatible switches (I hope that's the correct name, mods :-\). I made a big comparison (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/coz27bp) of them on Reddit.

Quick summary:
  • Greetech Black is similar to Cherry Black
  • Greetech Red is smoother than Cherry Red (and Greetech Black), but not as smooth as Gaterons
  • Greetech Blues are a little more tactile than Cherry MX Blue and a little bit louder
  • Greetech Brown are more tactile than Cherry MX Brown, but feel scratchier

If you disregard the the super cheap price (if $.10 is true), I think the most interesting switch is the Greetech Brown, because of its tactility. Before I did the test, I heard that the switch is more tactile than Cherry MX Brown and I hoped it's similar to an Ergo Clear. This isn't the case and I still prefer the Ergo Clears, but I'd say if you lube them they are a way better version of MX Browns. :thumb:

Hope that helps.
How do the Greetech blues compared to Gateron blues?
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: Touch_It on Mon, 20 April 2015, 15:24:40
Might be interested, depending on total cost.
Quote from: Latin00032 on Sun, 19 April 2015, 21:14:36
Quote from: wlhlm on Sun, 19 April 2015, 14:22:20
I have Red, Black, Blue and Brown switches from them. I got them together with a number of other MX-compatible switches (I hope that's the correct name, mods :-\). I made a big comparison (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/coz27bp) of them on Reddit.

Quick summary:
  • Greetech Black is similar to Cherry Black
  • Greetech Red is smoother than Cherry Red (and Greetech Black), but not as smooth as Gaterons
  • Greetech Blues are a little more tactile than Cherry MX Blue and a little bit louder
  • Greetech Brown are more tactile than Cherry MX Brown, but feel scratchier

If you disregard the the super cheap price (if $.10 is true), I think the most interesting switch is the Greetech Brown, because of its tactility. Before I did the test, I heard that the switch is more tactile than Cherry MX Brown and I hoped it's similar to an Ergo Clear. This isn't the case and I still prefer the Ergo Clears, but I'd say if you lube them they are a way better version of MX Browns. :thumb:

Hope that helps.
How do the Greetech blues compared to Gateron blues?

Interested in this as well.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: wlhlm on Mon, 20 April 2015, 16:07:29
Quote from: Touch_It on Mon, 20 April 2015, 15:24:40
Might be interested, depending on total cost.
Quote from: Latin00032 on Sun, 19 April 2015, 21:14:36
Quote from: wlhlm on Sun, 19 April 2015, 14:22:20
I have Red, Black, Blue and Brown switches from them. I got them together with a number of other MX-compatible switches (I hope that's the correct name, mods :-\). I made a big comparison (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/coz27bp) of them on Reddit.

Quick summary:
  • Greetech Black is similar to Cherry Black
  • Greetech Red is smoother than Cherry Red (and Greetech Black), but not as smooth as Gaterons
  • Greetech Blues are a little more tactile than Cherry MX Blue and a little bit louder
  • Greetech Brown are more tactile than Cherry MX Brown, but feel scratchier

If you disregard the the super cheap price (if $.10 is true), I think the most interesting switch is the Greetech Brown, because of its tactility. Before I did the test, I heard that the switch is more tactile than Cherry MX Brown and I hoped it's similar to an Ergo Clear. This isn't the case and I still prefer the Ergo Clears, but I'd say if you lube them they are a way better version of MX Browns. :thumb:

Hope that helps.
How do the Greetech blues compared to Gateron blues?

Interested in this as well.
Ok, so I had a closer look.

The Gateron Blue feels smoother than the Greetech switch (which is equally scratchy as the Cherry Blue). The tactile bump of the Gateron is slightly more pronounced.

Their sound is different as well. Unfortunately, I cannot record quality samples right now, a description has to be enough: The Gateron has a lower pitch than the Greetech which has a short bright ping. The other has a some kind of thock (not comparable with Topre) in addition to the click. It is generally louder and makes an audible thock when snapping back into the initial position. The thock sounds like a lubed switch and indeed, the Gateron Blues also feel slightly lubed, though I cannot confirm whether that's actually the case.

tl;dr: I prefer the Gateron Blue switches. Nothing compared to MX Clears though :))
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: fknraiden on Mon, 20 April 2015, 16:39:53
Sample pack! Woo. Someone will be lucky.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: trauring on Thu, 23 April 2015, 04:33:08
I will try to establish a connection to the company, get all their spec sheets, and get a sample pack. I'm open to suggestions as to a few people who would be best suited to test the switches and give a full report. Perhaps we can break up the 110 keys to a few people.

I want to figure out what their switches with diodes are in particular. As I see it, ther are three kinds of switches for each color, regular, with diode, and RGB. Possibly there's a fourth which would be RGB with diode. I need to figure out exactly what they offer.

Would people be interested in a switch that has a built-in diode? or just regular and RGB? A built in diode would make things easier for those designing their own keyboards and those doing hand-wiring, but wouldn't be great for those using existing PCBs designed to add diodes to...

Let me try to flesh out exactly what they offer, and maybe we'll pick a few options and start gauging interest on how many keys people want.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: CaplockJack on Thu, 23 April 2015, 11:20:05
Interested in sample pack.  Are all Das now Greetech?
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 24 April 2015, 22:05:12
Quote from: trauring on Thu, 23 April 2015, 04:33:08
Would people be interested in a switch that has a built-in diode? or just regular and RGB? A built in diode would make things easier for those designing their own keyboards and those doing hand-wiring, but wouldn't be great for those using existing PCBs designed to add diodes to...
I'd definitely be interested in trying out some switches with diodes built in
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: Dihedral on Sat, 25 April 2015, 01:13:50
Quote from: CaplockJack on Thu, 23 April 2015, 11:20:05
Interested in sample pack.  Are all Das nowadays Greetech?

Only 4C AFAIK
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: Asininity on Sat, 25 April 2015, 01:37:55
Depending on the price I would be down for 90 of either browns or blacks. I'm curious to try these switches and if the price was 10c a switch I couldn't help but satisfy my curiosity at that price point.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: TheMamaMafia on Sat, 25 April 2015, 02:38:58
This is very interesting indeed. And that price! 10c a switch :0
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 25 April 2015, 02:56:29
And I volunteer to run and liaise the GB again

I could also attempt contact with them..... If needed
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: Rakanishu2199 on Sat, 25 April 2015, 03:57:08
- Got Gaterons from Massdrop -
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: doodersbrother on Sun, 26 April 2015, 22:54:42
I would probably buy a few. Like around 100 or so maybe. It would be interesting to see how they coma[re to gats and cherries
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 28 April 2015, 00:35:20
If goes as smooth as the Gateron GB I am in for some! :)
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: Dihedral on Tue, 28 April 2015, 02:07:22
Everything I've see so far points to Greetechs being kailh standard clones. I don't see this being as big as the gateron gb.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: trauring on Tue, 28 April 2015, 02:18:21
Dihedral, what have you seen?
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: Dihedral on Wed, 29 April 2015, 02:14:06
Quote from: trauring on Tue, 28 April 2015, 02:18:21
Dihedral, what have you seen?

Whlhm's analysis and reviews of tge 4C
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: Rakanishu2199 on Wed, 29 April 2015, 12:45:31
Hey, just to get an idea, if this deal happens, when would we get the switches (several months?)?
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 19 May 2015, 00:36:58
I have contact with Greetech. Let me know if I can help.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: trauring on Tue, 19 May 2015, 00:56:15
LeandreN, I would appreciate the help. I had trouble getting a consistent contact there.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 19 May 2015, 06:57:15
Quote from: trauring on Tue, 19 May 2015, 00:56:15
LeandreN, I would appreciate the help. I had trouble getting a consistent contact there.
Pm me :)
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 19 May 2015, 13:03:13
I am in contact with them. I dont think I will be able to run the GB due to customs in my country. I think traurig has an idea for that.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 20 May 2015, 01:34:21
Sent over a mail. Awaiting a reply to that specific mail. Will try to get a overview of what they have.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 20 May 2015, 18:10:50
Alright, I have quotes and stuff. Waiting for traurig to respond to my PM :)
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: theanyday on Wed, 20 May 2015, 22:09:13
A bit interested in this as well. Got some things I want to build.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: ryuen29 on Fri, 22 May 2015, 21:20:42
I'll be interested in a sample pack as well.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: LeandreN on Fri, 29 May 2015, 11:51:49
Quote from: wlhlm on Sun, 19 April 2015, 14:22:20
I have Red, Black, Blue and Brown switches from them. I got them together with a number of other MX-compatible switches (I hope that's the correct name, mods :-\). I made a big comparison (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/coz27bp) of them on Reddit.

Quick summary:
  • Greetech Black is similar to Cherry Black
  • Greetech Red is smoother than Cherry Red (and Greetech Black), but not as smooth as Gaterons
  • Greetech Blues are a little more tactile than Cherry MX Blue and a little bit louder
  • Greetech Brown are more tactile than Cherry MX Brown, but feel scratchier

If you disregard the the super cheap price (if $.10 is true), I think the most interesting switch is the Greetech Brown, because of its tactility. Before I did the test, I heard that the switch is more tactile than Cherry MX Brown and I hoped it's similar to an Ergo Clear. This isn't the case and I still prefer the Ergo Clears, but I'd say if you lube them they are a way better version of MX Browns. :thumb:

Hope that helps.

I know that they have a whitelist system for their mail. That is why your mail couldn't deliver.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: BreakThings on Sun, 07 June 2015, 13:49:32
I centered the labels and bumped the font. I think it give the caps a classier feel but I'm interested to hear what the community thinks.

http://bit.ly/1FIR97f (http://bit.ly/1FIR97f)
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 08 June 2015, 12:55:02
Thought that i would let you know that Shadovved has contacted Greetech for further details.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 17 June 2015, 18:00:52
We are waiting for samples :)
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 17 June 2015, 18:50:41
We have them in stock on MK. I absolutely love the Reds...
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 18:59:34
Quote from: 00zeRO on Wed, 17 June 2015, 18:50:41
We have them in stock on MK. I absolutely love the Reds...
I'd like to try them but at some reasonable prices
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 17 June 2015, 20:05:30
Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 18:59:34
Quote from: 00zeRO on Wed, 17 June 2015, 18:50:41
We have them in stock on MK. I absolutely love the Reds...
I'd like to try them but at some reasonable prices

A 10 pack for $8 is not reasonable?

There is tiered pricing for bulk ordering beyond just the 10 per switch...
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 June 2015, 20:09:57
Quote from: 00zeRO on Wed, 17 June 2015, 20:05:30
Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 18:59:34
Quote from: 00zeRO on Wed, 17 June 2015, 18:50:41
We have them in stock on MK. I absolutely love the Reds...
I'd like to try them but at some reasonable prices

A 10 pack for $8 is not reasonable?

There is tiered pricing for bulk ordering beyond just the 10 per switch...

I didn't realize MK.com was carrying them (http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=76). But $1 a switch isn't reasonable at all to me. That's reaching Blue Alps hype prices in my opinion. I'd be more comfortable paying $.40-$.60.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 20:10:25
Quote from: 00zeRO on Wed, 17 June 2015, 20:05:30
Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 18:59:34
Quote from: 00zeRO on Wed, 17 June 2015, 18:50:41
We have them in stock on MK. I absolutely love the Reds...
I'd like to try them but at some reasonable prices

A 10 pack for $8 is not reasonable?

There is tiered pricing for bulk ordering beyond just the 10 per switch...
Well, it's $10 for 10, and not really no, not keen on paying $1/switch. And with cherry I see the tiered pricing for volume, but with Greetech and Gateron I just see the $10 for 10 packs.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 17 June 2015, 20:41:19
Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 20:10:25
Quote from: 00zeRO on Wed, 17 June 2015, 20:05:30
Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 18:59:34
Quote from: 00zeRO on Wed, 17 June 2015, 18:50:41
We have them in stock on MK. I absolutely love the Reds...
I'd like to try them but at some reasonable prices

A 10 pack for $8 is not reasonable?

There is tiered pricing for bulk ordering beyond just the 10 per switch...
Well, it's $10 for 10, and not really no, not keen on paying $1/switch. And with cherry I see the tiered pricing for volume, but with Greetech and Gateron I just see the $10 for 10 packs.

[attachimg=1]

100 switches for $40...free shipping stateside...
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: unoab on Wed, 17 June 2015, 20:41:57
Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 20:10:25
Quote from: 00zeRO on Wed, 17 June 2015, 20:05:30
Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 18:59:34
Quote from: 00zeRO on Wed, 17 June 2015, 18:50:41
We have them in stock on MK. I absolutely love the Reds...
I'd like to try them but at some reasonable prices

A 10 pack for $8 is not reasonable?

There is tiered pricing for bulk ordering beyond just the 10 per switch...
Well, it's $10 for 10, and not really no, not keen on paying $1/switch. And with cherry I see the tiered pricing for volume, but with Greetech and Gateron I just see the $10 for 10 packs.

Well in all fairness to MK, the price probably includes the shipping, since it is free shipping on all items so that would be a few dollars.

Also check out if you buy 10 10 packs they go down to $4 a pack for gateron, so $0.40 a switch (shipping included), so not as cheap as the group buys, but they are the cheapest place with them in stock right now at least that I could find (ortholinearkeyboards would be next in line).
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 20:44:50
Quote from: 00zeRO on Wed, 17 June 2015, 20:41:19
Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 20:10:25
Quote from: 00zeRO on Wed, 17 June 2015, 20:05:30
Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 18:59:34
Quote from: 00zeRO on Wed, 17 June 2015, 18:50:41
We have them in stock on MK. I absolutely love the Reds...
I'd like to try them but at some reasonable prices

A 10 pack for $8 is not reasonable?

There is tiered pricing for bulk ordering beyond just the 10 per switch...
Well, it's $10 for 10, and not really no, not keen on paying $1/switch. And with cherry I see the tiered pricing for volume, but with Greetech and Gateron I just see the $10 for 10 packs.

(Attachment Link)

100 switches for $40...free shipping stateside...
well then unless this buy yields some great prices I'd say this seems like a good solution right here
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 17 June 2015, 20:45:27
We are working on creating sampler packs of Greetechs, but we have to include shipping somehow.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 17 June 2015, 20:47:46
Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 20:44:50
well then unless this buy yields some great prices I'd say this seems like a good solution right here

We are fully stocked on both PCB and Plate mount Greetechs with no end in sight.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 20:57:12
Quote from: 00zeRO on Wed, 17 June 2015, 20:45:27
We are working on creating sampler packs of Greetechs, but we have to include shipping somehow.
Makes sense, though I does look a bit nicer in this case if shipping wasn't included
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 17 June 2015, 20:59:51
Quote from: hwood34 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 20:57:12
Quote from: 00zeRO on Wed, 17 June 2015, 20:45:27
We are working on creating sampler packs of Greetechs, but we have to include shipping somehow.
Makes sense, though I does look a bit nicer in this case if shipping wasn't included

We are still working on that. Our whole website is currently based around included shipping.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 June 2015, 21:12:36
Quote from: 00zeRO on Wed, 17 June 2015, 20:41:19
(Attachment Link)

100 switches for $40...free shipping stateside...

I'm not seeing that at all. I have to add the switches to my cart before I get that?

Edit: This is what I'm seeing. I see options for the 4 switch types and 10 packs. I don't see the additional price tiers.

(http://i.imgur.com/MKjdgNF.png)
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 21:18:52
Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 June 2015, 21:12:36
Quote from: 00zeRO on Wed, 17 June 2015, 20:41:19
(Attachment Link)

100 switches for $40...free shipping stateside...

I'm not seeing that at all. I have to add the switches to my cart before I get that?

Edit: This is what I'm seeing. I see options for the 4 switch types and 10 packs. I don't see the additional price tiers.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/MKjdgNF.png)

Yea put it in the cart and the price reflects it
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 17 June 2015, 21:59:26
Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 17 June 2015, 21:12:36
Quote from: 00zeRO on Wed, 17 June 2015, 20:41:19
(Attachment Link)

100 switches for $40...free shipping stateside...

I'm not seeing that at all. I have to add the switches to my cart before I get that?

Edit: This is what I'm seeing. I see options for the 4 switch types and 10 packs. I don't see the additional price tiers.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/MKjdgNF.png)


I see. There is a glitch that I will try to address tomorrow with some of the listings...they should all tier, but I think some of them aren't set up right in the back end. No worries, we will remedy that.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: Cideshow on Mon, 22 June 2015, 22:40:56
On the site, the thumbnails for the Reds and Browns look like they have a wide enough pass through to support 4-pin RGB LEDs, whereas the Blues and Blacks look like they have a standard size pass through and would only be able to support normal 2-pin LEDs. Are all the thumbnails correct or are some of them wrong? I'm looking for switches that would support 4-pin RGB LEDs and hoping you're my solution  :)
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: 00zeRO on Tue, 23 June 2015, 07:06:01
Quote from: Cideshow on Mon, 22 June 2015, 22:40:56
On the site, the thumbnails for the Reds and Browns look like they have a wide enough pass through to support 4-pin RGB LEDs, whereas the Blues and Blacks look like they have a standard size pass through and would only be able to support normal 2-pin LEDs. Are all the thumbnails correct or are some of them wrong? I'm looking for switches that would support 4-pin RGB LEDs and hoping you're my solution  :)

Ok...the PCB mounted keyswitches have the wider slots, while the plate mount are standard LED size
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 23 June 2015, 08:16:22
Quote from: LXXXIX on Sun, 19 April 2015, 18:53:42
Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 April 2015, 14:43:44
I'd *love* a sample of switches.

Maybe you can make a review like you did with the Gateron Blacks? :cool:

Just saw this now. If I can get my hands on Greetech switches, I'd be happy to write a review.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: UKKeycaps on Wed, 08 July 2015, 18:38:18
Is there an overall summary of MX clones somewhere on Geekhack. I thought Greetech was just a re-brand of another clone? I might be completely wrong
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: c137 on Thu, 09 July 2015, 16:36:57
I would be interested in a sample pack, 3-5 switches per type.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: 00zeRO on Thu, 09 July 2015, 20:26:02
Quote from: UKKeycaps on Wed, 08 July 2015, 18:38:18
Is there an overall summary of MX clones somewhere on Geekhack. I thought Greetech was just a re-brand of another clone? I might be completely wrong

They are not simply a re-brand, they are current the best, IMO, of the 'clones.' But I believe they are in a class all by themselves, and they are certainly giving Cherry a run for their money.

Overall Quality is there with Greetechs. I now see why Das Keyboard is going with them for all new editions of their 'boards.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 25 July 2015, 07:53:19
Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 23 June 2015, 08:16:22
Quote from: LXXXIX on Sun, 19 April 2015, 18:53:42
Quote from: CPTBadAss on Sun, 19 April 2015, 14:43:44
I'd *love* a sample of switches.

Maybe you can make a review like you did with the Gateron Blacks? :cool:

Just saw this now. If I can get my hands on Greetech switches, I'd be happy to write a review.
I think Shadovved sent you some.

Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 25 July 2015, 07:56:16
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/25/609c4d5db40f7882d20b032f9de7f106.jpg)

Got my samples! Smoother than Kailh and Cherry. Still scratchy, but not so noticeable.

The brown has a much more noticeable bump than GATERON Browns.

Blues are like Cherry Blues.

More you want to know?
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: pokkuhlag on Sat, 25 July 2015, 08:34:13
Do these have pcb mount? If so how is the fit?

And how is the fit on plate mount holes? I have read that kailh have a tighter fit than cherry and gateron

Any news about the groupbuy dates?
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 01 August 2015, 21:58:19
got my sample today. I'll post a real review soon, but these feel really good. Definitely smoother than new Cherry and I like the click on the blues. The bump on the browns is near non-existent though
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: wlhlm on Sun, 02 August 2015, 07:18:39
Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 01 August 2015, 21:58:19
got my sample today. I'll post a real review soon, but these feel really good. Definitely smoother than new Cherry and I like the click on the blues. The bump on the browns is near non-existent though
Huh interesting, my Greetech Brown sample is more tactile than its Cherry pendant and I heard others had the same experience. Looks like there's some variation...
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 02 August 2015, 07:45:49
Quote from: wlhlm on Sun, 02 August 2015, 07:18:39
Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 01 August 2015, 21:58:19
got my sample today. I'll post a real review soon, but these feel really good. Definitely smoother than new Cherry and I like the click on the blues. The bump on the browns is near non-existent though
Huh interesting, my Greetech Brown smaple is more tactile than its Cherry pendant and I heard others had the same experience. Looks like there's some variation...
My sample is definetily tactile. Also, I really like the blues :)
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: trenzafeeds on Sun, 02 August 2015, 11:27:26
Quote from: LeandreN on Sat, 25 July 2015, 07:56:16
Show Image
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/25/609c4d5db40f7882d20b032f9de7f106.jpg)


Got my samples! Smoother than Kailh and Cherry. Still scratchy, but not so noticeable.

The brown has a much more noticeable bump than GATERON Browns.

Blues are like Cherry Blues.

More you want to know?

How do the blacks shape up smoothness-wise to Gateron blacks?
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 02 August 2015, 11:38:40
Quote from: trenzafeeds on Sun, 02 August 2015, 11:27:26
Quote from: LeandreN on Sat, 25 July 2015, 07:56:16
Show Image
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/25/609c4d5db40f7882d20b032f9de7f106.jpg)


Got my samples! Smoother than Kailh and Cherry. Still scratchy, but not so noticeable.

The brown has a much more noticeable bump than GATERON Browns.

Blues are like Cherry Blues.

More you want to know?

How do the blacks shape up smoothness-wise to Gateron blacks?
Nope, unfortunately. They are still smoother than Cherrys.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 02 August 2015, 13:52:02
Quote from: LeandreN on Sun, 02 August 2015, 07:45:49
Quote from: wlhlm on Sun, 02 August 2015, 07:18:39
Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 01 August 2015, 21:58:19
got my sample today. I'll post a real review soon, but these feel really good. Definitely smoother than new Cherry and I like the click on the blues. The bump on the browns is near non-existent though
Huh interesting, my Greetech Brown smaple is more tactile than its Cherry pendant and I heard others had the same experience. Looks like there's some variation...
My sample is definetily tactile. Also, I really like the blues :)

Weird. Like if you didn't tell me they were tactile, I would just assume they were weird linears. Guess there's some serious variation
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: trenzafeeds on Sun, 02 August 2015, 14:22:14
Quote from: LeandreN on Sun, 02 August 2015, 07:45:49
Quote from: wlhlm on Sun, 02 August 2015, 07:18:39
Quote from: hwood34 on Sat, 01 August 2015, 21:58:19
got my sample today. I'll post a real review soon, but these feel really good. Definitely smoother than new Cherry and I like the click on the blues. The bump on the browns is near non-existent though
Huh interesting, my Greetech Brown smaple is more tactile than its Cherry pendant and I heard others had the same experience. Looks like there's some variation...
My sample is definetily tactile. Also, I really like the blues :)
So the sense I'm getting here is that the Blues are the main switch that are really worth buying over any other brand's versions of the same color.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: UKKeycaps on Sun, 02 August 2015, 17:10:57
If you wanna test these switches out they're available on the UKKeycaps switch testers. They'll be on the mega tester which'll be available soon. If you don't wanna wait you can get them in a custom switch tester  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 August 2015, 16:27:20
Captain BadAss Greetech Mini Review

I was going to write a long review for these switches but honestly, I'm not sure how to. To me, Greetech switches simply feel the way Cherry MX switches wish they did.

The Greetech Red and Black are actually smooth. Not Gateron smooth but better than stock Cherry and almost as good as lubed linears. Red is too light for me but I like the Blacks.

The Greetech Blues feel like Cherry MX Blues. This was the least exciting switch for me because they feel the same. Pretty interchangeable.

The Greetech Browns I could actually see myself using. I find Cherry MX Browns to be horrible. Gritty, with a barely there tactile bump, they're probably my least favorite mechanical keyboard switch. They're like a bad linear switch. The Greetech Browns are like Ergo-Clears (actual ergo clears with the MX Blue/Red/Brown springs) but the bump is 50% of the ergo-clear.

As a random side note, the switches even seem to fit into my plate and keychains a bit tighter. I think that's a good thing.

Honestly, between the Greetech MX-mount switches, Gateron MX-mount switches, and the Zealio switches, I no longer see myself using actual Cherry MX. For a cheaper price, I get a better product. It will be very nice to be able to just slap switches into a build without lubing or spring swapping. Goodbye Cherry MX. It was a good run while it lasted.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: trenzafeeds on Wed, 26 August 2015, 16:31:29
Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 August 2015, 16:27:20
I was going to write a long review for these switches but honestly, I'm not sure how to. To me, Greetech switches simply feel the way Cherry MX switches wish they did.

The Greetech Red and Black are actually smooth. Not Gateron smooth but better than stock Cherry and almost as good as lubed linears. Red is too light for me but I like the Blacks.

The Greetech Blues feel like Cherry MX Blues. This was the least exciting switch for me because they feel the same. Pretty interchangeable.

The Greetech Browns I could actually see myself using. I find Cherry MX Browns to be horrible. Gritty, with a barely there tactile bump, they're probably my least favorite mechanical keyboard switch. They're like a bad linear switch. The Greetech Browns are like Ergo-Clears (actual ergo clears with the MX Blue/Red/Brown springs) but the bump is 50% of the ergo-clear.

Honestly, between the Greetech MX-mount switches and Gateron MX-mount switches, I no longer see myself using actual Cherry MX. For a cheaper price, I get a better product. It will be very nice to be able to just slap switches into a build without lubing or spring swapping. Goodbye Cherry MX. It was a good run while it lasted.
I totally agree with you, I literally never use cherry switches anymore, I feel like the company is just resting on all their deals providing for pre-built boards to the point where they no longer need to stay competitive or even relevant. My question is, are Greetech browns worth it over the Gateron equivalents do you think?
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 26 August 2015, 16:41:50
I have some samples I can send out if someone want to try
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 August 2015, 16:43:24
Quote from: trenzafeeds on Wed, 26 August 2015, 16:31:29
I totally agree with you, I literally never use cherry switches anymore, I feel like the company is just resting on all their deals providing for pre-built boards to the point where they no longer need to stay competitive or even relevant.

I've heard rumors that ZF Electronics was considering dumping Cherry MX switches altogether. You have to remember that we are a tiny niche market for them and they probably don't really care much about updating their products to support a small market. But to be fair, they are coming out with that Cherry Silent thing for the Corsair boards.

Quote from: trenzafeeds on Wed, 26 August 2015, 16:31:29
My question is, are Greetech browns worth it over the Gateron equivalents do you think?

The Gateron Browns from what I remember, felt like Cherry MX Clears. The Greetech Browns feel like what Cherry MX Browns should have felt like.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: trenzafeeds on Wed, 26 August 2015, 16:43:58
Quote from: LeandreN on Wed, 26 August 2015, 16:41:50
I have some samples I can send out if someone want to try
I'd love to try some, I know that someone else is doing your groupbuy shipping for the US, but is there any chance you could just package the switches with my GB order?
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 26 August 2015, 16:45:07
Quote from: trenzafeeds on Wed, 26 August 2015, 16:43:58
Quote from: LeandreN on Wed, 26 August 2015, 16:41:50
I have some samples I can send out if someone want to try
I'd love to try some, I know that someone else is doing your groupbuy shipping for the US, but is there any chance you could just package the switches with my GB order?
I am doing the shipping for the US :)

Yeah I could, if you send me an email about it. Else, I won't remember :)
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: trenzafeeds on Wed, 26 August 2015, 16:45:59
Quote from: LeandreN on Wed, 26 August 2015, 16:45:07
Quote from: trenzafeeds on Wed, 26 August 2015, 16:43:58
Quote from: LeandreN on Wed, 26 August 2015, 16:41:50
I have some samples I can send out if someone want to try
I'd love to try some, I know that someone else is doing your groupbuy shipping for the US, but is there any chance you could just package the switches with my GB order?
I am doing the shipping for the US :)

Yeah I could, if you send me an email about it. Else, I won't remember :)
Ok, I'll shoot you an email later today, thanks!

Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 August 2015, 16:43:24
The Gateron Browns from what I remember, felt like Cherry MX Clears. The Greetech Browns feel like what Cherry MX Browns should have felt like.
Huh, that hasn't been my experience so much, but I'll be interested to see what the browns are like when I manage to get my hands on some.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 August 2015, 16:48:19
Quote from: trenzafeeds on Wed, 26 August 2015, 16:45:59
Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 August 2015, 16:43:24
The Gateron Browns from what I remember, felt like Cherry MX Clears. The Greetech Browns feel like what Cherry MX Browns should have felt like.
Huh, that hasn't been my experience so much, but I'll be interested to see what the browns are like when I manage to get my hands on some.

I should probably have prefaced my statement with I really really hate (and I do mean hate) and generally ignore any switch with the word Brown in it. My whole lens of MX-mount tactile switches is through Clears.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: trenzafeeds on Wed, 26 August 2015, 16:52:15
Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 August 2015, 16:48:19
I should probably have prefaced my statement with I really really hate (and I do mean hate) and generally ignore any switch with the word Brown in it. My whole lens of MX-mount tactile switches is through Clears.
Haha ok, I can identify with that to some extent, in my experience browns have always just felt like the variety of switch that isn't committing at all in any direction. Not quite as bad as reds imo, but still not my fav.
Title: Re: [IC] Greetech switches
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 26 August 2015, 16:53:12
I feel like the greetech browns are more tactile than GATERON Browns, but not like MX clears at all. Nowhere near.