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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: Nikelu on Tue, 21 April 2015, 19:43:50
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I love the cherry mx blue switch.I like gaming on it and I like typing on it.But recently I noticed a fatique while writing walls of text.Which would be the switch that would solve my problems while not taking away a lot of the pleasure? I put orings yesterday and it feels better tbh,and double orings to the spacebar.Much better.Now for a typing keyboard what should I get.Cherry MX browns/clears?Or a Novatouch?
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from the sound of it it could be that bottoming out could be your problem if you find orings helping but I could be wrong. Try experimenting with different springs and try it out yourself. You can buy some here https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55888.0.
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While you can make a change to reds or blues, i would advice you to search youtube for the "Healthy Typing" videos, the story of Dorothy Taubman and the other videos of Edna Golansky. I have a post pending talking about all this methods. But check them out. I hope it helps ya.
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While you can make a change to reds or blues, i would advice you to search youtube for the "Healthy Typing" videos, the story of Dorothy Taubman and the other videos of Edna Golansky. I have a post pending talking about all this methods. But check them out. I hope it helps ya.
expensive tho
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I love the cherry mx blue switch.I like gaming on it and I like typing on it.But recently I noticed a fatique while writing walls of text.Which would be the switch that would solve my problems while not taking away a lot of the pleasure? I put orings yesterday and it feels better tbh,and double orings to the spacebar.Much better.Now for a typing keyboard what should I get.Cherry MX browns/clears?Or a Novatouch?
Obviously, the problem is not the switch, it's your way of typing. You love to bottom out hard, and it's not good.
I understand that it may be very difficult to change, and so you want to find a switch that would reduce the problem. But down the road this will turn into a health problem.
Anyway, using O-rings helps you, so I guess that the firm landing pads sold by EliteKeyboards would help you even more. They make bottoming out a little less hard.
Browns would probably not help you, because you like your keyboard to be noisy, and you would compensate by typing harder.
If you are OK with making less noise and try to type in a lighter way, clears could help. They are more tactile, which could help you in avoiding to bottom out, and the springs are stronger, so you could bottom-out less hard.
But really, there is nothing that is going to help you much if you don't try to change your way of typing.
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HHKB || scissor switches
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I love the cherry mx blue switch.I like gaming on it and I like typing on it.But recently I noticed a fatique while writing walls of text.Which would be the switch that would solve my problems while not taking away a lot of the pleasure? I put orings yesterday and it feels better tbh,and double orings to the spacebar.Much better.Now for a typing keyboard what should I get.Cherry MX browns/clears?Or a Novatouch?
Obviously, the problem is not the switch, it's your way of typing. You love to bottom out hard, and it's not good.
I understand that it may be very difficult to change, and so you want to find a switch that would reduce the problem. But down the road this will turn into a health problem.
Anyway, using O-rings helps you, so I guess that the firm landing pads sold by EliteKeyboards would help you even more. They make bottoming out a little less hard.
Browns would probably not help you, because you like your keyboard to be noisy, and you would compensate by typing harder.
If you are OK with making less noise and try to type in a lighter way, clears could help. They are more tactile, which could help you in avoiding to bottom out, and the springs are stronger, so you could bottom-out less hard.
But really, there is nothing that is going to help you much if you don't try to change your way of typing.
It is probably because I was rushing this essay for my college,at like 100-110 wpm,I never else felt this type of fatique.I type a lot lighter at 80-90.
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If you REALLY don't want to bottom out, use tactile greys.
You won't be bottoming out of those. The question is, your fingers may fall off in the process. I guess you'll find out.
You can find tactile and non tactile (linear) greys here.
http://www.mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=Grey&switch_id=ALL&size=ALL&man=ALL&key_plastic=ALL&interface=ALL&cord_length=ALL&usb_kro=ALL&ps2_kro=ALL&in_stock=on&x=0&y=0
The two "grey" switches are tactile.
The dark grey are linear.
http://www.mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=981
http://www.mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=980
Other websites may have different manufacturers for tactile greys. I think even ducky had a version with them (ok maybe it was just linear).
Here's another one.
http://www.banggood.com/Cherry-MX-Tactile-Grey-KBTalking-ONE-Backlit-Mechanical-Keyboard-p-946503.html
120g of max force should stop you from bottoming out.
(BTW Greys are simply mx clears with a stiffer spring. Both switches increase in force linearly, unlike blues/greens).
Some say clears feel a bit mushy. You will not get ANY mush from tactile greys, though!
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Well, as other said you can use a O-ring to stop you bottoming out so hard. You will still get the click from the Blues however when you attach O-rings it might feel a little squidgy. I am sure you will get used to it after a while.
I love the cherry mx blue switch.I like gaming on it and I like typing on it.But recently I noticed a fatique while writing walls of text.Which would be the switch that would solve my problems while not taking away a lot of the pleasure? I put orings yesterday and it feels better tbh,and double orings to the spacebar.Much better.Now for a typing keyboard what should I get.Cherry MX browns/clears?Or a Novatouch?
Obviously, the problem is not the switch, it's your way of typing. You love to bottom out hard, and it's not good.
I understand that it may be very difficult to change, and so you want to find a switch that would reduce the problem. But down the road this will turn into a health problem.
Anyway, using O-rings helps you, so I guess that the firm landing pads sold by EliteKeyboards would help you even more. They make bottoming out a little less hard.
Browns would probably not help you, because you like your keyboard to be noisy, and you would compensate by typing harder.
If you are OK with making less noise and try to type in a lighter way, clears could help. They are more tactile, which could help you in avoiding to bottom out, and the springs are stronger, so you could bottom-out less hard.
But really, there is nothing that is going to help you much if you don't try to change your way of typing.
I agree with you completely, firm landing pads might be better than O-rings for you.
If you REALLY don't want to bottom out, use tactile greys.
You won't be bottoming out of those. The question is, your fingers may fall off in the process. I guess you'll find out.
You can find tactile and non tactile (linear) greys here.
http://www.mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=Grey&switch_id=ALL&size=ALL&man=ALL&key_plastic=ALL&interface=ALL&cord_length=ALL&usb_kro=ALL&ps2_kro=ALL&in_stock=on&x=0&y=0
The two "grey" switches are tactile.
The dark grey are linear.
http://www.mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=981
http://www.mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=980
Other websites may have different manufacturers for tactile greys. I think even ducky had a version with them (ok maybe it was just linear).
Here's another one.
http://www.banggood.com/Cherry-MX-Tactile-Grey-KBTalking-ONE-Backlit-Mechanical-Keyboard-p-946503.html
120g of max force should stop you from bottoming out.
(BTW Greys are simply mx clears with a stiffer spring. Both switches increase in force linearly, unlike blues/greens).
Some say clears feel a bit mushy. You will not get ANY mush from tactile greys, though!
You are right about Grey's not bottoming out as much, but the OP wants to stick with the Blues because switching the switches are too expensive for him. Good suggestion though, and I do agree with you about Grey's mostly stopping people from bottoming out.
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While you can make a change to reds or blues, i would advice you to search youtube for the "Healthy Typing" videos, the story of Dorothy Taubman and the other videos of Edna Golansky. I have a post pending talking about all this methods. But check them out. I hope it helps ya.
expensive tho
Dude, YouTube is "free". I know she sells a DVD but if you watch the available videos at YouTube you can get a notion of proper techniques. Even the piano lessons can help you understand the mechanics of the hand.
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While you can make a change to reds or blues, i would advice you to search youtube for the "Healthy Typing" videos, the story of Dorothy Taubman and the other videos of Edna Golansky. I have a post pending talking about all this methods. But check them out. I hope it helps ya.
expensive tho
Dude, YouTube is "free". I know she sells a DVD but if you watch the available videos at YouTube you can get a notion of proper techniques. Even the piano lessons can help you understand the mechanics of the hand.
I was taking about switching to reds
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While you can make a change to reds or blues, i would advice you to search youtube for the "Healthy Typing" videos, the story of Dorothy Taubman and the other videos of Edna Golansky. I have a post pending talking about all this methods. But check them out. I hope it helps ya.
expensive tho
Dude, YouTube is "free". I know she sells a DVD but if you watch the available videos at YouTube you can get a notion of proper techniques. Even the piano lessons can help you understand the mechanics of the hand.
I was taking about switching to reds
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U can sell your board, if you don't want to lose a lot of money on it just be patient. Then buy another board, but I'm not sure it is the board as someone else already told ya. It's most possibly improper typing technique. Try that first, it's cheap.
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I made the switch to a cherry red board with blue o-rings for exactly this reason. It has helped a lot and I'd recommend it definitely. The blue o-rings are key, as they give more of a cushion which feels really nice and less fatiguing to bottom out on. Gotta watch that key strike stress.
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Try a Topre!
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Try a Topre!
Most opinions i have read in here conclude that topre feels heavier than reds at the 45g category.
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man up
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MX Greens?
For typing I've found that heavier switches hurt less. Gaming, no, ow, but typing yes.
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man up
ROFL!
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man up
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Blues are like pusing your fingers against silk. Maybe you need some 150 g springs to excercie on :) No but seriously blues should not fatigue you. Rather than changing switches try taking breaks if you are writing an essay. My friend had finger problems when he played alot of starcraft. As soon as he stopped spam pushing it got better.
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Buckling Spring!
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MX SUPER BLACKS
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I tend to agree that heavier switches might solve the problem, as counterintuitive as that may seem. Greens are good if you like the click.
But I also suspect that other factors such as posture and ergonomics are at least partially to blame. Did you know we have an ergonomics forum (https://geekhack.org/index.php?board=125.0) here on GeekHack? A quick look around will likely surprise you with how much you can do to reduce pain and fatigue.