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Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: o2dazone on Sat, 12 September 2009, 15:52:40
In similar fashion, Elitekeyboards delivers great customer service and an amazing price. His order from across seas arrived yesterday, and I got my keyboard from that order the very next day. This is my second HHKB, and I'm just as excited as when I got my first one. Anyways, this isn't really much of a review, so here's some pics instead :P



(http://kb.o2dazone.com/hhkbwhite/IMG_3980.jpg) (http://kb.o2dazone.com/hhkbwhite/IMG_3981.jpg) (http://kb.o2dazone.com/hhkbwhite/IMG_3982.jpg) (http://kb.o2dazone.com/hhkbwhite/IMG_3984.jpg) (http://kb.o2dazone.com/hhkbwhite/IMG_3988.jpg)



(http://kb.o2dazone.com/hhkbwhite01.jpg)

(http://kb.o2dazone.com/hhkbwhite02.jpg)

(http://kb.o2dazone.com/hhkbwhite03.jpg)
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: o2dazone on Sat, 12 September 2009, 16:02:42
You may
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: o2dazone on Sat, 12 September 2009, 16:07:04
Those are the memory foam ones right? Do they sell those separate? The uTron is a work of art
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: rdjack21 on Sat, 12 September 2009, 16:28:33
Nice! eventually I'm going to get another one myself. Did you also order the blank black keys I see in the pictures?

Right now I have to let my bank account do a little catching up after all the boards I've ordered over the last few months. I still have two sitting in Japan waiting for me to approve shipment on. I will do that next week. Then it is account recovery time for a bit then I will get one.
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: JBert on Sat, 12 September 2009, 16:32:07
Quote from: webwit;117334
They sell separate  (http://www.personal-media.co.jp/webshop/others/utronkb.html)but the price is ridiculous: $105..
Maybe that's what bumps the price of the keyboard up? :tea:
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: o2dazone on Sat, 12 September 2009, 16:47:46
Quote from: rdjack21;117340
Nice! eventually I'm going to get another one myself. Did you also order the blank black keys I see in the pictures?


Yes I did. A full blank black set from EliteKeyboards and a partial white blank set from megarat.
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: watduzhkstand4 on Sat, 12 September 2009, 17:07:08
nice o2dazone you finally got the white one with blank keys =)
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: rdjack21 on Sat, 12 September 2009, 18:17:35
That is what I was thinking from reading the site. But you do get a discount when you buy them with the board right.
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: rdjack21 on Sat, 12 September 2009, 20:18:33
That sucks I thought you could buy them at a reduced price when you get them with the board. I thought this page (http://www.personal-media.co.jp/utronkb/) meant you could get a discount for getting both at once. I guess not.
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: AndrewZorn on Sun, 13 September 2009, 05:01:37
black or white
black or white
black or white
black or white
black or white
black or white
black or white
black or white

- me, for about a week now
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: AndrewZorn on Sun, 13 September 2009, 05:28:25
did i ever tell you how you suggesting buying both the filco AND the hhkb as the FIRST post in my thread was starting to sound logical?  what now?  cant make a $600 order...
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: o2dazone on Sun, 13 September 2009, 13:37:17
Quote from: AndrewZorn;117430
did i ever tell you how you suggesting buying both the filco AND the hhkb as the FIRST post in my thread was starting to sound logical?  what now?  cant make a $600 order...


says who? I spend twice that much building a computer (and once that much building my wifes computer). It's only reasonable....do it
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: o2dazone on Sun, 13 September 2009, 13:40:16
also, didn't mention this in the post, but one will be going to work, and the other will stay at home. After about 100 days with 12+ hours a day, every day on my black, I couldn't go any further taking it to and from work (although it's held up amazingly well after being dropped from 4' feet on linoleum twice). I must accommodate the minimum for two boards, so two hhkb's made sense (and the only other board I own is a g80-3000, which, if I find a buyer locally, will be selling it)
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: rdjack21 on Sun, 13 September 2009, 14:07:27
Yep same reason I want another one. But I do still like my 87/86U's and this little Topre as well. But I think my main everyday board will be the HHKB Pro.
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: AndrewZorn on Sun, 13 September 2009, 14:15:44
Quote from: o2dazone;117563
says who? I spend twice that much building a computer (and once that much building my wifes computer). It's only reasonable....do it

next time I'll be sure to mention a $600 order of keyboards.
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: AndrewZorn on Sun, 13 September 2009, 14:33:42
even if i did i would not two ferraris and a bmw at once either

you have to realize $600 from elite as my first order is a bit too much
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: AndrewZorn on Sun, 13 September 2009, 14:40:17
exactly
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: rdh on Sun, 13 September 2009, 14:44:47
Quote from: webwit;117578
Black. No! White! Wait..


  KEEPER:  Stop!  What is your name?
  GALAHAD:  Sir Galahad of Camelot.
  KEEPER:  What is your quest?
  GALAHAD:  I seek the Holy Grail.
  KEEPER:  What is your favorite color?
  GALAHAD:  Blue.  No yel--  Auuuuuuuugh!
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: AndrewZorn on Sun, 13 September 2009, 14:45:35
the white looks clean and retro
the black looks minimalistic and sharp
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: AndrewZorn on Sun, 13 September 2009, 15:00:11
same here... which is why I'll probably end up with black despite the appeal of white.
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: D-EJ915 on Sun, 13 September 2009, 15:27:13
I like the grey keys on the white so that's the one I would get, black is kind of dull
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: rdjack21 on Sun, 13 September 2009, 20:41:33
Oh I know what you mean the charcoal keys look good with the white case. But you can't order it that way. You either order two or get a set of keys. I also think the white keys look good on the black case.
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 14 September 2009, 08:53:05
I always try to buy two of any keyboard I own, so that I have one for work and one for home, so I am never "jealous" of the 'board I have in the other location.  With that in mind, get both and rotate them between work and home as you feel the need.  I am using my Cherry at work right now for a key wear experiement, but I have realized that the Cherry keys simply wear MUCH slower than the Filco's, so I am bringing my Filco back to work tomorrow.
 
That, and I get my blank key set tomorrow for the Filco, so while I might appreciate the blank look, I think my GF would have a sh*t-fit if she needed to use my PC for anything.
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: AndrewZorn on Mon, 14 September 2009, 11:24:46
if i had a job that required mass typing, i would love to take a hhkb back and forth.
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: rdjack21 on Mon, 14 September 2009, 11:57:38
Na don't haul them back and forth just take one to work and leave it there. Right now that is where my HHKB Pro is because I needed to clean my 86U so took it home and brought in the HHKB.
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 14 September 2009, 12:01:44
With the HHBKs portablilty (read: small size and detachable USB cable), it would be the one 'board I would tote back and forth to work.  Otherwise, I am just too lazy; just buy two.
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: rdjack21 on Mon, 14 September 2009, 12:27:48
Oh man where is the Anti Topre cult! Here we are advocating this poor gullible newish member to get not one but TWO HHKB Pro's. The cult leader should be rolling on the floor foaming at the mouth at the thought of us heathens daring to advocate getting two of them.
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: AndrewZorn on Mon, 14 September 2009, 12:30:02
he waits for the right moment to strike, i guess, he hasnt failed to appear in all of my indecision over the past few weeks (and wow, it's really been 3 since i registered, expecting to have decided by the next day)
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 14 September 2009, 12:34:39
I have no opinion, as of yet, on Topre switches.  I have still not tried one, and I am not going to throw around that kind of coin to do it.
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: rdjack21 on Mon, 14 September 2009, 13:24:05
Yea if you like those Cherry boards you are typing on don't try one. Because you know you can't have just one Topre.
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: lal on Mon, 14 September 2009, 13:41:53
Quote from: rdjack21;117804
Oh man where is the Anti Topre cult!


You miss me?  I like you, too, rdjack :)
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: lal on Mon, 14 September 2009, 13:46:49
Quote from: AndrewZorn;117808
he waits for the right moment to strike, i guess


Sorry if you feel followed, didn't mean to.  I expressed my opinion, you know the facts.  Now the decision is entirely up to you.  Hope you'll be happy with your new keyboard.  Enjoy!
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 14 September 2009, 13:51:37
Quote from: rdjack21;117828
Yea if you like those Cherry boards you are typing on don't try one. Because you know you can't have just one Topre.

I think if I were to get a Topre-based 'board, it would be the HHKB so I could take it back and forth to work.   I would like to get either the 87U or the 103U, but I can't afford two.  That, and I think I would prefer all one key resistance.  Until I get to try one, I am going to stick with the Cherry browns.
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: o2dazone on Mon, 14 September 2009, 21:06:40
The portability of the HHKB is indeed nice, but that's not why I bought it. It just so happened to fill the role nicely until I got a job at a place that I didn't have to take it home in fear of it getting stolen.
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: o2dazone on Mon, 14 September 2009, 21:44:35
I don't work there anymore :P I got a job at Zappos now 8)
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: rdjack21 on Mon, 14 September 2009, 23:38:51
Yea I'm glad I don't have to worry about my boards growing legs at night where I work. But even if I did I would still leave it there but lock it up instead. Along with a camera so I could catch the MF that would mess with my board.

When I took my HHKB to work (dyed all blank keys) the people that saw just said things like
1) how can you type on that?  Quit nicely thank you very much
2) How do you know where the keys are? You mean you don't know where the keys are on your keyboard? You really should learn where the keys are man.
3) Where are all the darn keys you seem to missing some. Yea is it great to get rid of all those keys I don't use.

But their were also a few that loved it until I told them how much one costs. But I think our DBA is really thinking of getting one.
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 15 September 2009, 08:23:55
I leave my Filco on my desk. People wouldn't even think of touching the Cherry G80-3000; it's not pretty enough. Unless you have another GeekHacker in your office, I don't think people particularly care about your keyboard. That is, unless it's loud. Then, people care.
 
Two other things to remember:
 
-Your keyboard does not have multimedia keys
-How many other people in the office have an HHKB, Filco, Cherry (unless you work at a dept. store), or Model M?  Your 'board would be pretty easy to spot around the office.
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: o2dazone on Wed, 16 September 2009, 23:11:16
A couple more photos (desktop resolutions on 3rd and 4th photo)

(http://kb.o2dazone.com/hhkbredesc01.jpg)

(http://kb.o2dazone.com/hhkbredesc04.jpg)

(http://kb.o2dazone.com/hhkbredesc02.jpg)
1920 x 1200 (http://kb.o2dazone.com/hhkbredesc02_1920.jpg)


(http://kb.o2dazone.com/hhkbredesc03.jpg)
1920 x 1200 (http://kb.o2dazone.com/hhkbredesc03_1920.jpg)
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: rdjack21 on Thu, 17 September 2009, 00:42:14
I have to get myself one of the white HHKB that really looks good.
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: lal on Thu, 17 September 2009, 03:21:40
Pah, more illusion than reality.  The keyboards look *much* better than they feel.  Says a lot about the personality of typical Topre fanboys, too.
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: lal on Thu, 17 September 2009, 07:07:53
I don't have to try one to know they're BORING.  No click.  No snap.  *yawn*
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: JBert on Thu, 17 September 2009, 08:16:09
The anti-topre league strikes again!

It should be interesting if you don't care about the clicky part. Good/fresh rubber domes have a rather peculiar "tactile" feel when the domes collapse (even when that is useless from a touch-typing view), I'd guess the Topre should have something along those lines but better.

I haven't tried one though as they exceed my $150 max threshold (includes shipping).
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 17 September 2009, 09:08:23
O2's got the money pics.  It makes me want to buy an HHKB just off the looks.
 
It's not going to happen, though. :(
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 17 September 2009, 10:19:14
Quote from: webwit;118719
Do you have any other reviews of products you cannot afford?

Oooh, oooh, I got one:
 
The Ferrari - an overpriced, POS.  No leg room, disappointing stereo, too much engine noise, rough ride, not enough room for the family, and a complete lack of cargo space.
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 17 September 2009, 10:21:19
Quote from: ripster;118726
Yes, he's always showing me FailBlog.
 
One Back To School special and then I'll stop.

My GF and I found that one funny.
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 17 September 2009, 10:22:07
Quote from: ripster;118729
I don't like the shade of red they use. Refuse to buy one because of that.

Yeah, their choice of colors is disappointing.  That red draws way too much attention.
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: o2dazone on Thu, 17 September 2009, 10:29:00
Thanks for compliments on the photos :) It's just a hobby, but I aspire to please the audience :*
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: AndrewZorn on Thu, 17 September 2009, 10:54:51
the blank ones always look better, black or white...

i may have just obtained a white one with markings.  i wonder if anyone who purchased a blank board would ever trade for marked keys?
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: Rajagra on Thu, 17 September 2009, 11:08:03
One advantage of a blank keyboard is that nobody will steal it.

... At least no normal person would. :lol:

Stealth lettering (black on dark grey) is my preference ATM.
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: AndrewZorn on Thu, 17 September 2009, 11:24:20
more than that, i use colemak, and the hhkb rows cannot be rearranged... and i plan to switch the <> and alt anyway... so only handful of keys will have the CORRECT markings...

otherwise i only have a preference for blank because of the look.
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 17 September 2009, 11:38:22
I like the look of the blank keys, too, but it sort of looks like the 'board is unfinished.  I showed a guy at work (and he touch types pretty well), and he was freaking out a little.  He couldn't figure out how he would cope without the letters actually being on the 'board.  Yeah, I don't think anyone would want to steal your 'board unless they are quite adamant about learning how to touch type.
Title: PD-KB400WN (HHKB Pro 2 white/blank)
Post by: lal on Thu, 17 September 2009, 12:45:38
Quote from: webwit;118719
Do you have any other reviews of products you cannot afford?


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