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Title: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Fri, 01 May 2015, 16:31:39
OFFICIAL group buy thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71722 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71722) (pending approval of topic)
Spreadsheet of participants/ progression: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l51aOkxIvlRdGYxHTw5-cpxLc1Tb1la66UiRGZf-dWA/edit?usp=sharing (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l51aOkxIvlRdGYxHTw5-cpxLc1Tb1la66UiRGZf-dWA/edit?usp=sharing)

This is for *USED* *AS-IS* keyboards. Important points are in bold.
Odds are on the buyer's side though as these are pretty robust boards. I've personally bought 7 various Apple ALPS mechs sold "as-is" from varying locations and conditions and they've all worked perfectly even the one that had its case compromised by USPS.

I ended up buying one of these off ebay via the great finds subforum.  Original thread here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71477 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71477)

Picked it up and this happened:

So I ended up getting this one and upon picking it up locally as they are literally just down the street from me. It turns out they have a decent sized crate with approx. 20+ of them for quite some time and they ended up putting it by the wayside as they didn't know about the griffin imate to test them with.
Their supervisor wasn't there when I went to pick mine up but from the looks of it and what the employees were expressing, there's a good chance I can start a groupbuy due to my close proximity to them. Probably for a better price too considering they've been around for awhile and there's no need to trans-ship or taxes as they accept $cash$ in person. If you're interested let me know via PM, otherwise you'll find them on ebay as they're planning to do soon*.

They all appear pretty clean with only some yellowing of the case and spacebar for reasons mentioned above. Otherwise, the keycaps are in great condition. Switches are *not* gritty.
Yes these are ex-school district. Newark Unified School District to be exact. But they are by no means abused or used to the ground. The one I bought worked perfectly as is. I could test them all given I have time.

They are engraved on the back with school district information and inventory and some have been written with sharpie on the back as well with school district asset related information.
There are a few cables but most are without cables. But it's common knowledge that you can use a s-video cables in place of ADB cables.

It didn't occur to me in the excitement of one of the employee's showing me the trove of them to take a picture of them until the last minute but they're in the container on the ground:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/jBmIjte.jpg)


The one I got:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/PJwlur3.jpg?1)

They are *all* in this condition. None of them are missing caps.

There's been some interest already expressed. Any other takers?


There are definitely not enough cables for every keyboard, probably only a handful! ASSUME you will not receive an ADB cable. Said ADB cable can be substituted with any S-video cable however.
You will need a griffin iMate to use the keyboard with a modern computer.



Currently, there are:
6 SMK monterey white left - there is still time to get one of these last minute before I make payment to the supplier

0 orange ALPS boards left - all have been spoken and paid for!


Changes: $17 per board
$13.52 - USPS priority (1 - 3 days) for 1 board
$15.80 - USPS priority (1 - 3 days) for 2 boards (maybe 3*)
+Group buy fee: $3 for 1 board, $5 for 2 boards (to cover the unforeseen considering I am selling these at cost!)
+PAYPAL FEES (buyer pays!)
CONUS only. Transshippers ok.

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PLEASE NOTE: I am doing this completely for the team; I do not gain from any of this.

Post updated 5/15/2015 10:13AM PST - collection UPDATE
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Fri, 01 May 2015, 16:43:18
Update: I was just able to reach the person in charge of pricing and selling them and they are indeed willing to cater to a groupbuy and willing to lower the price from the flat $18 I paid provided there's enough buyers.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: FrostyToast on Fri, 01 May 2015, 16:44:49
If we don't get enough buyers I can buy two...  :cool:
I would buy two but I would feel guilty getting two from a limited buy.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Fri, 01 May 2015, 16:55:26
For the time being there's no limit, as the crate seemed to be double stacked with them like binders. At the moment I'm waiting for them to get back to me with the final count.
Also, first come first served. I'll start a google doc come time.

I still have to go to the USPS to work out shipping when I have the time.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 01 May 2015, 16:58:09
I'm in for two.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Fri, 01 May 2015, 17:23:55
UPDATE: There are 26 up for grabs.

At the moment of edit, interest has been expressed for 5 possibly 6 of them.

There is no per person limit at the moment.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 01 May 2015, 17:36:37
In for one!
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: RoflCopter4 on Fri, 01 May 2015, 18:12:50
Damn it all I bought one of these off eBay just a little while ago. My timing sucks.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: njbair on Fri, 01 May 2015, 18:42:43
Orange Alps at $18 each? I'm in for two.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Heliosphere on Fri, 01 May 2015, 20:31:59
I'll take one, why not?
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: unoab on Fri, 01 May 2015, 20:38:16
I'll take one, why not?

That's the spirit and kinda what dragged me in too, ha ha.

and a link to the deskthority wiki for some more information on these:
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Apple_Desktop_Bus_Keyboard (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Apple_Desktop_Bus_Keyboard)
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Fri, 01 May 2015, 20:39:15
Update interest has been expressed for 13 of the 26; possibly 14 of the 26.

Requesting to move thread to group buys. It's happening guys!
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: njbair on Fri, 01 May 2015, 20:41:31
I'll take one, why not?

That's the spirit and kinda what dragged me in too, ha ha.

and a link to the deskthority wiki for some more information on these:
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Apple_Desktop_Bus_Keyboard (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Apple_Desktop_Bus_Keyboard)
GeekHack: Why Not?
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: derezzed on Fri, 01 May 2015, 21:00:27
How good are orange Alps?  I might be in for at least one board if they are superior to Matias tactile switches.

edit:  Put me down for one board, as it looks like you will have no problems finding a taker if I bow out. 
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: FrostyToast on Fri, 01 May 2015, 21:01:21
I'll take two.
Way too greedy to resist this offer!
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: engicoder on Fri, 01 May 2015, 21:01:27
I'd be in for 2.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: njbair on Fri, 01 May 2015, 21:08:23


How good are orange Alps?  I might be in for at least one board if they are superior to Matias tactile switches.

I believe they are generally considered second only to blue as far as clicky Alps go, but somewhat easier to come by.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 01 May 2015, 21:09:50


How good are orange Alps?  I might be in for at least one board if they are superior to Matias tactile switches.

I believe they are generally considered second only to blue as far as clicky Alps go, but somewhat easier to come by.

Orange are tactile, not clicky.  They're quite nice.  They can be click modded too.  I prefer click modded Orange to Blues.  They have a nicer register to me.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Fri, 01 May 2015, 21:12:21
Interest has been expressed for 17 of the 26. 9 left.

I will draw up and share a better organized google docs spreadsheet once this gets moved to group buys. So you guys can make sure I noted your interest correctly from the replies & PM's I've been receiving.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: FrostyToast on Fri, 01 May 2015, 21:14:12
I hope I can get in once this actually launches.  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Fri, 01 May 2015, 21:18:34
I hope I can get in once this actually launches.  :eek:

As mentioned before, I am doing this first come, first served.
There'll be a waitlist if they all get spoken for.

Everybody who has expressed interest whether in this thread or via PM has been noted and their respective quantities desired earmarked considering at the moment there's still some left.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: FrostyToast on Fri, 01 May 2015, 21:20:09
I hope I can get in once this actually launches.  :eek:

As mentioned before, I am doing this first come, first served.
There'll be a waitlist if they all get spoken for.

Everybody who has expressed interest whether in this thread or via PM has been noted and their respective quantities desired earmarked considering at the moment there's still some left.

Nice to know!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: wakko on Sat, 02 May 2015, 03:21:28
I'd be interested in one. Thanks.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Thu, 07 May 2015, 13:11:57
Hey guys, I'm still in talks with the source of the boards in regards to price. Also finalizing some things but the group buy thread should be up this weekend or next week; probably the prior.

I'm essentially doing this "for the team" and learned recently that I've been taking packing material for granted over all these years! I'm planning to pack in the boards with crumpled up newspaper.


At the moment 18 out of the 26 have had interest expressed on. 8 left prospectively.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: mattyIce on Thu, 07 May 2015, 13:29:46
In for one.

Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 07 May 2015, 13:32:27
Just saw this. I'm interested in one.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Yoe on Thu, 07 May 2015, 13:36:33
Is shipping to Sweden possible? I wouldn't mind getting my hands on one or two of these.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Thu, 07 May 2015, 13:43:52
Is shipping to Sweden possible? I wouldn't mind getting my hands on one or two of these.

It's not going to be cheap at all.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Thu, 07 May 2015, 13:45:11
Down to the last 5.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Yoe on Thu, 07 May 2015, 13:49:59
Is shipping to Sweden possible? I wouldn't mind getting my hands on one or two of these.

It's not going to be cheap at all.

Hmm… probably not :/ I'd better pass on this one. Tempting, though...
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: theanyday on Thu, 07 May 2015, 14:00:10
I'm down for 1.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: SL89 on Thu, 07 May 2015, 14:33:49
if only iMates were not thrice the price of the keyboard  :'(
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Thu, 07 May 2015, 14:58:16
if only iMates were not thrice the price of the keyboard  :'(

It's only a one time purchase though! Your key to rainbow apple logo'd ALPS goodness!

Keep your eyes peeled at garage sales, thrift stores, and swap meets.
imates were a common item when apple went into the colorful powerpc G3 era when apple went from daisy chaining ADB to USB peripherals.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Thu, 07 May 2015, 18:32:32
In preparation of creating the official group buy thread in the respective subforum, I've managed to double check my PM's and this thread for interest expressed by members toward acquiring one or multiple of this board. From that, I've managed to compile up a spreadsheet with googledocs to help me and everybody who's interested here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l51aOkxIvlRdGYxHTw5-cpxLc1Tb1la66UiRGZf-dWA/edit?usp=sharing (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l51aOkxIvlRdGYxHTw5-cpxLc1Tb1la66UiRGZf-dWA/edit?usp=sharing)

Participants listed will be notified with final instructions soon.

The price of the boards will be $17 each + USPS flat rate shipping (2 boards will ship for the same price) + paypal fees
I will finalize shipping prices tomorrow.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: njbair on Thu, 07 May 2015, 18:52:24
In preparation of creating the official group buy thread in the respective subforum, I've managed to double check my PM's and this thread for interest expressed by members toward acquiring one or multiple of this board. From that, I've managed to compile up a spreadsheet with googledocs to help me and everybody who's interested here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l51aOkxIvlRdGYxHTw5-cpxLc1Tb1la66UiRGZf-dWA/edit?usp=sharing (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l51aOkxIvlRdGYxHTw5-cpxLc1Tb1la66UiRGZf-dWA/edit?usp=sharing)

Participants listed will be notified with final instructions soon.

The price of the boards will be $17 each + USPS flat rate shipping (2 boards will ship for the same price) + paypal fees
I will finalize shipping prices tomorrow.
Nice work. Soon the orange Alps will be mine!!!
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Fri, 08 May 2015, 14:49:18
Went to the post office today and ran into some slightly bad news. Please read below:

Shipping will be over the $12.65 anticipated. The board is just one column of keys and an edge too long to fit in the medium flat rate box. So close, I know.

After holding up the line, me and the nice post office clerk lady came to the conclusion that the next best alternative to ship 1 board is $13.52 on the scale with online discount.
For 2 boards, the large flat rate board game box which is the same price as the large flat rate box of $15.80 with online discount.


I will be posting the official group buy thread and sending out confirmation PM's later today. If you're on the spreadsheet posted above, keep your eyes peeled on your GH inbox and email!
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: njbair on Fri, 08 May 2015, 14:52:07
Went to the post office today and ran into some bad news. Please read below:

Shipping will be over the $12.65 anticipated. The board is just one column of keys and an edge too long to fit in the medium flat rate box. So close, I know.

After holding up the line, me and the nice post office clerk lady came to the conclusion that the next best alternative to ship 1 board is $13.52 on the scale with online discount.
For 2 boards, the large flat rate board game box which is the same price as the large flat rate box of $15.82 with online discount.

Boy, I'm glad I'm in for two. It's just like my momma used to tell me, "son, always buy two keyboards. You'll save a ton on shipping and end up with two keyboards."
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: rsadek on Fri, 08 May 2015, 14:58:13
Exciting count me in!
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 08 May 2015, 15:01:13
It's just like my momma used to tell me, "son, always buy two keyboards. You'll save a ton on shipping and end up with two keyboards."

Troof
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Fri, 08 May 2015, 15:02:37
Derp I just realized I typed 15.82 INSTEAD of 15.80 for shipping 2 boards! CORRECTED in prior posts & OP!
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 08 May 2015, 15:06:19
Went to the post office today and ran into some slightly bad news. Please read below:

Shipping will be over the $12.65 anticipated. The board is just one column of keys and an edge too long to fit in the medium flat rate box. So close, I know.

After holding up the line, me and the nice post office clerk lady came to the conclusion that the next best alternative to ship 1 board is $13.52 on the scale with online discount.
For 2 boards, the large flat rate board game box which is the same price as the large flat rate box of $15.80 with online discount.


I will be posting the official group buy thread and sending out confirmation PM's later today. If you're on the spreadsheet posted above, keep your eyes peeled on your GH inbox and email!

Have you checked out the regional boxes or the  secondary versions of the boxes that you can sometimes only find online?  Sometimes those allow for cheaper shipping.

I was actually expecting the $16 shipping, but just seeing if you might still be able to do cheaper.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Fri, 08 May 2015, 15:17:45
Went to the post office today and ran into some slightly bad news. Please read below:

Shipping will be over the $12.65 anticipated. The board is just one column of keys and an edge too long to fit in the medium flat rate box. So close, I know.

After holding up the line, me and the nice post office clerk lady came to the conclusion that the next best alternative to ship 1 board is $13.52 on the scale with online discount.
For 2 boards, the large flat rate board game box which is the same price as the large flat rate box of $15.80 with online discount.


I will be posting the official group buy thread and sending out confirmation PM's later today. If you're on the spreadsheet posted above, keep your eyes peeled on your GH inbox and email!

Have you checked out the regional boxes or the  secondary versions of the boxes that you can sometimes only find online?  Sometimes those allow for cheaper shipping.

I was actually expecting the $16 shipping, but just seeing if you might still be able to do cheaper.

Believe me when I said I held up the line, I did. The line went out the door!
Irony would have it that none of the boxes would fit! The keyboard is 15 inches long.
And if I were to modify the shape of those boxes, the package would be metered as weighted rate producing the same price for 1 board as above.
I tried regional flat rate box C with the board resting sideways on the walls of the box but I used better judgement and didn't want to risk it as the corners would not be adequately protected and old ABS does not take kindly to shock. I learned this the hard way with another apple board that had its case shattered.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Fri, 08 May 2015, 16:36:52
Official group buy thread has been posted pending approval:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71722 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71722)

Confirmation PM's with further instructions for participants will be sent out shortly after approval of topic above.
If your name is here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l51aOkxIvlRdGYxHTw5-cpxLc1Tb1la66UiRGZf-dWA/edit?usp=sharing (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l51aOkxIvlRdGYxHTw5-cpxLc1Tb1la66UiRGZf-dWA/edit?usp=sharing) you will be notified via geekhack PM!

For newcomers there are 2 left for grabs! Afterwards there will be waitlist positions for spots that people above have given up.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Fri, 08 May 2015, 16:52:33
Keeping you guys in the loop, we have an issue that's unfolding as finishing preparations are taking place over on the suppliers side.

Apparently there are 8 units that are the newer model A9M0330. Which may use either ALPS salmon or ALPS orange. I am waiting for the suppliers response as I suggested for them to pop keycaps off to check for me.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: jacobolus on Fri, 08 May 2015, 17:28:40
The Made in Taiwan A9M0330 type are white SMK switches and double-shot keycaps. The Made in Japan 658-4081 type are orange Alps + dyesubs.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: njbair on Fri, 08 May 2015, 17:35:21
Hmm interesting. If salmon, I actually wouldn't mind one of each, get to try out both that way.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Fri, 08 May 2015, 17:54:31
The Made in Taiwan A9M0330 type are white SMK switches and double-shot keycaps. The Made in Japan 658-4081 type are orange Alps + dyesubs.

Hmm I was going off the deskauthority wiki. I just sent an email to the supplier for them to specify which.

The supplier has gotten back to me and those 8 boards are NOT orange. I am waiting for specifics after replying them.
As for priority of ALPS orange, what do you guys suppose I do? 1st come 1st serve w/ no limit or limit 1 ALPS orange board each? I am leaning toward fairness and spreading the wealth of the find and limiting 1 ALPS orange board each.

Regardless of whether we accept the non-orange ALPS boards, pricing is not affected.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: njbair on Fri, 08 May 2015, 18:13:58
The Made in Taiwan A9M0330 type are white SMK switches and double-shot keycaps. The Made in Japan 658-4081 type are orange Alps + dyesubs.

Hmm I was going off the deskauthority wiki. I just sent an email to the supplier for them to specify which.

The supplier has gotten back to me and those 8 boards are NOT orange. I am waiting for specifics after replying them.
As for priority of ALPS orange, what do you guys suppose I do? 1st come 1st serve w/ no limit or limit 1 ALPS orange board each? I am leaning toward fairness and spreading the wealth of the find and limiting 1 ALPS orange board each.

Regardless of whether we accept the non-orange ALPS boards, pricing is not affected.
If jacobulous is right, getting white Alps also means getting doubleshot keycaps. That's a pretty good trade-off. And white Alps are not bad at all. I have a board with clicky white Alps and I like them a lot.

Really, though, if there are enough orange for everyone to get at least one, start with that. Any extras can be raffled off to folks who are in for a second board. Of course, if someone wants to back out of their second board instead, that should be allowed. Seem fair?
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Fri, 08 May 2015, 19:12:18
The supplier got back to me. They are apparently SMK monterey whites. Tactile, non-clicky.
To confirm with jacobolus, these particular SMK made ones come with double shot keys.
http://deskthority.net/wiki/SMK_Alps_mount (http://deskthority.net/wiki/SMK_Alps_mount)

Picture provided by supplier:
(http://i.imgur.com/PXRZQtN.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: njbair on Fri, 08 May 2015, 19:22:34
Vanilla go ahead and change one of mine to a white. I don't mind getting one of each.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Fri, 08 May 2015, 19:35:00
Vanilla go ahead and change one of mine to a white. I don't mind getting one of each.

Noted.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 08 May 2015, 19:35:08
My personal (selfish) opinion is that the orange Alps boards should go in order to the first people who requested them, unless they state otherwise. :)
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Fri, 08 May 2015, 19:42:00
My personal (selfish) opinion is that the orange Alps boards should go in order to the first people who requested them, unless they state otherwise. :)

If we do that, we will be 5 orange alps boards short of already who has expressed interest toward an orange alps keyboard. There's simply not enough to go around.

*Hears "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"

-Huh who said that?
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: njbair on Fri, 08 May 2015, 19:43:12
Does the buy go through with just orange Alps or do you have to buy the whole lot?
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Fri, 08 May 2015, 19:44:50
Does the buy go through with just orange Alps or do you have to buy the whole lot?

The buy will happen whether we get the SMK monterey white boards or not.

The price for each board regardless of switch is still $17 each.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 08 May 2015, 19:47:58
Does the buy go through with just orange Alps or do you have to buy the whole lot?

The buy will happen whether we get the SMK monterey white boards or not.

The price for each board regardless of switch is still $17 each.

If I'm limited to only one orange board, I'd like to change my order from two to one, please.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: njbair on Fri, 08 May 2015, 19:51:03
Does the buy go through with just orange Alps or do you have to buy the whole lot?

The buy will happen whether we get the SMK monterey white boards or not.

The price for each board regardless of switch is still $17 each.
Well then first come first serve is totally fair. There will be some dashed hopes, but nobody will have lost money.

I kind of want to change my mind back now, and ask for two orange Alps again. Is that OK?

Can anyone weigh in on whether the white Monterey switches are worth having?
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Fri, 08 May 2015, 19:55:51
If I were to limit everybody to just 1 orange board there is enough orange boards to go around for everybody who has expressed interest so far.
With no further immediate participants.

Otherwise we're in a deficit of 6 orange ALPS boards.

I believe the newer SMK monterey white boards are less common than the older orange ALPS ones.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: njbair on Fri, 08 May 2015, 20:06:26
If I were to limit everybody to just 1 orange board there is enough orange boards to go around for everybody who has expressed interest so far.
With no further immediate participants.

Otherwise we're in a deficit of 6 orange ALPS boards.
Classic economics problem: unregulated free market versus compulsory wealth redistribution? Someone's going to be disappointed either way.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Fri, 08 May 2015, 20:15:20
If I were to solve this with classic economics, I'd come out on top by having to charge more to quell demand.... which I won't. 
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 08 May 2015, 20:25:17
If I were to solve this with classic economics, I'd come out on top by having to charge more to quell demand.... which I won't. 

I'd still be in for two orange boards at $22 each. :)
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: njbair on Fri, 08 May 2015, 20:37:57
If I were to solve this with classic economics, I'd come out on top by having to charge more to quell demand.... which I won't. 

I'd still be in for two orange boards at $22 each. :)
JD is the keyboard 1%.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: unoab on Fri, 08 May 2015, 21:28:14
Well shipping makes much more sense at 2 boards per order.. so I would be hesitant to get just one, but if we are only given the option of just one....

And there is a deskthority thread that talked about the difference in switches, and it seems the SMK ones are more tactile than the orange ones, or so someone expressed as their opinion in the thread.  Though also in that thread they said that the double shot keycaps had binding issues on the SMK switches but not the orange alps ones because the stem tolerances on the smk switches were much tighter.

And I was hoping to try dyeing some of the caps, so double shot would be out for me, but if someone wanted to do a switch I would take a SMK board with PBT caps from one of the alps boards also with PBT caps and then they could have the double shots.  That should then fix the binding issue on the SMK boards and someone else could get an orange alps board..  Then I would be able to try each switch type too..


edit: found the page I was reading before, and actually Jacobolus actually suggested in there switching caps on the boards to alleviate the binding issues and make both versions pleasing to type on:
http://deskthority.net/post164638.html#p164638 (http://deskthority.net/post164638.html#p164638)
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: derezzed on Fri, 08 May 2015, 21:58:27
Sorry, but I have to bow out of this group buy.  Stupid grown-up responsibilities have hacked my wallet.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Fri, 08 May 2015, 22:04:43
Sorry, but I have to bow out of this group buy.  Stupid grown-up responsibilities have hacked my wallet.

Noted.

The deficit has improved to 5!
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: FrostyToast on Fri, 08 May 2015, 22:06:26
Still in for one orange board. 2 would have been really swell though but we are at a shortage.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: theanyday on Fri, 08 May 2015, 22:11:09
Definitely still in for an orange and possibly one of each for shipping sake.  :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Sat, 09 May 2015, 00:41:32
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Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 09 May 2015, 00:48:47
If it's one per person, I'm out, it's not worth it.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Sat, 09 May 2015, 13:36:22
Alright I've slept on the issue and I'm going to just do it first come first serve with quantities already posted. In everybody's best interest, especially mine, I want to get this group buy delivered and completed as the supplier might have other plans. Otherwise I might just end up hoarding them all for myself.  :))
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: njbair on Sat, 09 May 2015, 13:56:27
Alright I've slept on the issue and I'm going to just do it first come first serve with quantities already posted. In everybody's best interest, especially mine, I want to get this group buy delivered and completed as the supplier might have other plans. Otherwise I might just end up hoarding them all for myself.  :))
This was a tough call to make, but don't beat yourself up over it. You were given bad information by the seller. At least you caught it before the boards were paid for and shipped!
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Sat, 09 May 2015, 14:13:37
Alright I've slept on the issue and I'm going to just do it first come first serve with quantities already posted. In everybody's best interest, especially mine, I want to get this group buy delivered and completed as the supplier might have other plans. Otherwise I might just end up hoarding them all for myself.  :))
This was a tough call to make, but don't beat yourself up over it. You were given bad information by the seller. At least you caught it before the boards were paid for and shipped!

I try my best to cover all my bases.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: brownbaglunch on Sat, 09 May 2015, 19:36:51
If these will work with PC's, I'm in for two, possibly three.

Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 09 May 2015, 19:41:10
If other people really want one, it's not a problem for me to give mine up.  It just wasn't worth it with shipping for just one of them.  I have one at home, so it's not a huge deal.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 09 May 2015, 19:45:49
I'm with nubbinator. If I can get an Orange Alps board, that'd be great. If there is someone ahead of me who doesn't already have Orange Alps, they can have mine and I'd be happy to bow out. Not interested in the Monterey boards.

If these will work with PC's, I'm in for two, possibly three.

You have to have an ADB Converter like hasu's, there's a converter you can buy, or Soarer Mod it. It won't work right out of the box with your PC.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: jacobolus on Sun, 10 May 2015, 01:14:11
You guys are silly with the shipping thing. These boards in similar condition often sell on ebay for about $50 + shipping (though price is fairly variable depending on how good the pictures are, how many keywords the ebay title covers, etc., so you can occasionally find one for $20–25). Getting one for $22 + shipping is still a great deal.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Sun, 10 May 2015, 12:59:46
You guys are silly with the shipping thing. These boards in similar condition often sell on ebay for about $50 + shipping (though price is fairly variable depending on how good the pictures are, how many keywords the ebay title covers, etc., so you can occasionally find one for $20�25). Getting one for $22 + shipping is still a great deal.

This 110%. I personally have a full collection of ALPS & SMK switched boards and I paid $40 for my orange ALPS board.... without considering the groupbuy, $22 is a steal already.
The GREED is strong.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: njbair on Sun, 10 May 2015, 13:43:57
You guys are silly with the shipping thing. These boards in similar condition often sell on ebay for about $50 + shipping (though price is fairly variable depending on how good the pictures are, how many keywords the ebay title covers, etc., so you can occasionally find one for $20�25). Getting one for $22 + shipping is still a great deal.

The GREED is strong.... in all honesty I'm pretty disheartened and fed up by this.

I work a full time job with a family. This is something I don't need. No good deed goes unpunished I suppose.
I hope my comments below don't sound argumentative, because they're not intended to be.

Maybe I missed something, but I saw two people who already have orange Alps boards willingly surrender their rightful spots for two boards each. Both of them made it sound like it was totally not a big deal to them.

I personally offered to change my second spot to a Monterey board when I thought the buy was in jeopardy, but then changed my mind when I found out the seller was willing to part with only the oranges for the same price. Does that seem greedy to you?
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: wakko on Sun, 10 May 2015, 13:59:20
 I'm still in for one orange alps board. Not a big deal if I don't get one.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Sun, 10 May 2015, 15:35:40
You guys are silly with the shipping thing. These boards in similar condition often sell on ebay for about $50 + shipping (though price is fairly variable depending on how good the pictures are, how many keywords the ebay title covers, etc., so you can occasionally find one for $20�25). Getting one for $22 + shipping is still a great deal.

The GREED is strong.... in all honesty I'm pretty disheartened and fed up by this.

I work a full time job with a family. This is something I don't need. No good deed goes unpunished I suppose.
I hope my comments below don't sound argumentative, because they're not intended to be.

Maybe I missed something, but I saw two people who already have orange Alps boards willingly surrender their rightful spots for two boards each. Both of them made it sound like it was totally not a big deal to them.

I personally offered to change my second spot to a Monterey board when I thought the buy was in jeopardy, but then changed my mind when I found out the seller was willing to part with only the oranges for the same price. Does that seem greedy to you?

The overtones are still present. You can't deny it.
Then again, that's the point of groupbuys.

I'm pretty disheartened and discouraged by this nonetheless. Especially considering this is the 1st group buy I've organized while balancing full time work and family.
It's been so much more than I bargained for especially considering I'm doing this for nothing in return.

I'm going to have to do some thinking in regards to the progression of this.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: njbair on Sun, 10 May 2015, 15:45:53
It takes some thick skin to run a group buy, from what I gather. Look at what mkawa has dealt with in the Smallfry kit buy, or even BunnyLake in recent keycap buys. You're correct that nobody appreciates the work involved. People just want their stuff. But it's oftentimes a necessary evil.

However, I don't think this feeling is unique to group buys. I gave up on EBay years ago because of greedy scumbags. Especially as a seller, there are all kinds of scammers who will ruin your auction for a chance to rip you off. Then when you refuse their shady terms they back out of the sale, forcing you to relist and wait longer, hoping that the next winner is not a scammer.

The simple truth is that people are all selfish jerks.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 10 May 2015, 15:54:38
You guys are silly with the shipping thing. These boards in similar condition often sell on ebay for about $50 + shipping (though price is fairly variable depending on how good the pictures are, how many keywords the ebay title covers, etc., so you can occasionally find one for $20�25). Getting one for $22 + shipping is still a great deal.

And your point being?  Everyone is in different economic conditions.  While $40 for one might be good for you, others may not be able to justify that cost.  I couldn't justify it unless it was an average of $30 or less for each board shipped.  I've never paid more than $30 for one shipped and I've gotten a couple.  Since I have one at home, these were to be backups for future projects.


This 110%. I personally have a full collection of ALPS & SMK switched boards and I paid $40 for my orange ALPS board.... without considering the groupbuy, $22 is a steal already.
The GREED is strong.

If you're going to talk trash about people looking to be in your GB like that, I'm out.  Before it was me being nice and being willing to give up my boards for people who wanted them more than me, but at this point I'm out and not looking back. 

Talk to anyone on here and you'll see I sell things at cost and never try to go around making a profit off of other people's work.  This just wasn't worth it to me unless I had two.  It had nothing to do with greed and everything to do with what I'm willing to pay for something.  I set hard limits for myself and don't go over them.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Sun, 10 May 2015, 17:11:33
If you're going to talk trash about people looking to be in your GB like that, I'm out.  Before it was me being nice and being willing to give up my boards for people who wanted them more than me, but at this point I'm out and not looking back. 

Talk to anyone on here and you'll see I sell things at cost and never try to go around making a profit off of other people's work.  This just wasn't worth it to me unless I had two.  It had nothing to do with greed and everything to do with what I'm willing to pay for something.  I set hard limits for myself and don't go over them.

I simply agreed and shared my experience collecting ALPS boards. That's all.
I'll admit that "greed" was too strong of a word for me to use. I probably should've used the word "WANT" instead. It was not directed at anyone whatsoever. If any of you guys were offended or set off I apologize for misusing that one single word, it was not the right word to use and I blame my preoccupation and frustration with a task that was underestimated by me. We are all human.
It's not you guys it's me. As I for one do not come from a retail or sellers prospective. And pretty much I've never organized a groupbuy let alone participate one.

Everybody has a budget and I respect that. Reason why I'm charging what they're charging me; at cost. Like I said before I'm doing this for the team.
I could have simply shrugged off the opportunity to put the container of boards in the hands of the eager deserving masses who will love them for what they are for a down to earth price but no I did not.

Nubinator, the decision is yours to make. At the moment I still plan on doing 1st come 1st serve, quantities reserved. I do not plan on changing the price.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: rsadek on Sun, 10 May 2015, 18:19:48
I'm still in for 2 orange. I appreciate your hard work on all this.  :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Sun, 10 May 2015, 18:22:15
I'll be sending out confirmation emails with further instructions for payment tonight.


ALPS orange boards *may* be all gone BUT there are still SMK white boards w/ double shot keycaps up for grabs.  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: rsadek on Sun, 10 May 2015, 18:33:03
I'll be sending out confirmation emails with further instructions for payment tonight.


ALPS orange boards *may* be all gone BUT there are still SMK white boards w/ double shot keycaps up for grabs.  ;)
I'm cool either way.
 I'd prefer orange since I have more white switches than boards to build.
I guess I could ....keep ... one .... intact  ? :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 10 May 2015, 18:57:16
I would suggest adding a few dollars per order as a group buy fee. That way you don't end up paying out of pocket when things don't go exactly as planned, as usually happens.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: njbair on Sun, 10 May 2015, 19:18:52
I would suggest adding a few dollars per order as a group buy fee. That way you don't end up paying out of pocket when things don't go exactly as planned, as usually happens.

Agreed. Especially since this is your first time running a buy, I'm sure something unexpected will come up.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Sun, 10 May 2015, 19:53:37
You guys are definitely more experienced with these than I am. Any suggestions? I want to be fair. I'm all ears.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: njbair on Sun, 10 May 2015, 21:18:31
You guys are definitely more experienced with these than I am. Any suggestions? I want to be fair. I'm all ears.

Actually I've never run a group buy either. But having taken part in several. $3-5 per order seems pretty fair to me.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Sun, 10 May 2015, 23:28:59
You guys are definitely more experienced with these than I am. Any suggestions? I want to be fair. I'm all ears.

Actually I've never run a group buy either. But having taken part in several. $3-5 per order seems pretty fair to me.

$3 fee for 1, $5 for orders of 2 sound about right?
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Mon, 11 May 2015, 15:59:40
All confirmation messages have been sent out via GH PM!
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:18:25
It looks like everybody who has expressed interest and got into the group buy have confirmed.
Paypal invoices will be sent out shortly.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Tue, 12 May 2015, 01:04:57
There are still SMK monterey white boards if anybody's interested.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: rsadek on Tue, 12 May 2015, 01:34:06
I'd be game for one...unless I'm a,ready getting one! So confused... Let me check my pm.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Zukoi on Tue, 12 May 2015, 01:41:42
Can you fit Matias switches in a SMK Monterey board?
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: njbair on Tue, 12 May 2015, 06:11:31
Can you fit Matias switches in a SMK Monterey board?
No. They use a different mounting hole and pin layout. http://deskthority.net/wiki/SMK_Alps_mount
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 12 May 2015, 10:53:51
Yay! Vanilla is spreading the Orange Alps love! Glad my board is going to someone who doesn't have them yet. I was just being greedy :).
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Tue, 12 May 2015, 21:11:02
Update: all invoices to those that made it in and responded with a paypalable email address have been sent!
Any stragglers should pick up the pace!

Like the saying goes, the faster everybody posts payment, the quicker the boards will arrive!  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: njbair on Tue, 12 May 2015, 21:42:41
Update: all invoices to those that made it in and responded with a paypalable email address have been sent!
Any stragglers should pick up the pace!

Like the saying goes, the faster everybody posts payment, the quicker the boards will arrive!  ;D
Yes, that's an old saying. I believe it was coined by Abe Lincoln.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Fri, 15 May 2015, 12:08:43
The vast majority of funds have been collected!
Great job you guys!

I will be picking up the boards either today or on monday.

Officially, all orange ALPS boards have been spoken and paid for.

There are still a handful of SMK monterey white boards left for those who want in on the last minute.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Bull1919 on Sat, 16 May 2015, 16:15:29
I am interested in a smk white board.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Sun, 17 May 2015, 20:56:30
Last call for the remaining SMK white boards!
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Mon, 18 May 2015, 15:26:31
I can't believe it.

Somebody saw this groupbuy and stole some of the keyboards from our hands. They offered more money for 10 of them and I can't believe the supplier let that go while we had an agreement.

Since there clearly aren't enough to go around I will be refunding people their costs and swallowing the paypal fee myself (thank lord for the groupbuy fee).

As a result of that person's actions, there are 8 orange ALPS boards left.


Participants will be receiving PM's and refunds soon in the case you did not make it.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Mon, 18 May 2015, 15:51:28
As for the orange ALPS participants I am going to randomly use a random number chooser to raffle off who gets the boards or not.
If your number (on farthest left column the spreadsheet) is chosen you will receive your order of boards as usual.
If your number is not chosen, you will be refunded your full paypal amount promptly.

It is very unfortunate this happened and I am sorry for any inconvenience or dashed expectations.
I believe this is the only fair way go forward.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Mon, 18 May 2015, 16:03:32
Some good news! The supplier felt bad and managed to dig up 6 more orange ALPS boards somewhere!

The bad news, there is still not enough to go around to everybody who was interested and the above still has to stand.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 18 May 2015, 16:07:40
I will give mine up
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Mon, 18 May 2015, 16:14:44
I will give mine up

You made it in ;)
I already refunded those that didn't make it in.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: njbair on Mon, 18 May 2015, 17:16:19
That was a scumbag move by the supplier, especially without even giving you a chance to counter offer. Glad to see at least a few of them got replaced.

BTW I think your solution was a fair one.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Wed, 20 May 2015, 18:15:48
Here they are guys!

In all their fruity glory

(http://i.imgur.com/9pwcXQ4.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: derezzed on Wed, 20 May 2015, 19:03:41
Here they are guys!

In all their fruity glory

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/9pwcXQ4.jpg)


You're breaking my heart, Vanilla.  Oh well, I couldn't currently justify the expense of the keyboard, let alone, a Griffin iMate.   As underhanded as the seller was, I kind of feel better knowing that I likely wouldn't have gotten one anyway. By the way, an oral agreement is still a legal contract.  If the seller agreed to sell you a specific number of keyboards at a specified price and you agreed to buy them, then he broke the contract by selling to another buyer.  But, I'm not a lawyer and I don't know what your options for legal recourse are or whether it is even worth pursuing them (probably not). 

Are all the keys stepped or is that a combination of keyboard filth and potato filter? 
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: theanyday on Wed, 20 May 2015, 21:11:58
 :'(
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: njbair on Wed, 20 May 2015, 22:51:46
I'm not a lawyer and I don't know what your options for legal recourse are

Egg his house, yo.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Thu, 21 May 2015, 00:11:44
Ranks filed and ready for their new homes

(http://i.imgur.com/SYsGUGN.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: rsadek on Mon, 25 May 2015, 23:26:20
That is a thing of beauty ! Thank you for running this  :thumb:
-R
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: njbair on Mon, 25 May 2015, 23:47:00
Tracking says mine were delivered on Sunday...I'll check first thing tomorrow when I get into the office. Can't wait!!
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 26 May 2015, 15:03:05
Mine came today, thanks! Orange alps feel a lot better than white
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: Vanilla on Fri, 12 June 2015, 01:32:42
Here's a good deal for an ADB compatible cable for those who haven't bothered to get one yet:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72722.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72722.0)
Pretty hard to beat $.99/each to your door.
Props to Blaise for finding.
Title: Re: [IC] Orange Alps Apple IIGS keyboard 658-4081 group buy
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 12 June 2015, 06:56:27
Here's a good deal for an ADB compatible cable for those who haven't bothered to get one yet:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72722.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=72722.0)
Pretty hard to beat $.99/each to your door.
Props to Blaise for finding.
Thanks! I was going to tear mine apart for parts, but wanted to try it out first after I clean it, which should be a fun process