by "blocking keys" do you mean you're pressing more keys simultaneously than the board will register?
[size=-3]....is it for sale?[/size]
The 7G should be fine. Would have been better if this poster (http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=108468&postcount=296) reported the minimum keys registered but I'm sure it can handle at least 6 keys under USB.
The M1 is pretty sad when it comes to Nkey rollover.
I'd recommend a Filco personally and ditch the handrest and USB hub.
It's hard to describe, but you'd notice it quite quickly if you were doing something that required you tap a button repeatedly. Basically, if you want to a press a button more than once, you have to let the key come all the way back up before pressing it again. Theyre not completely unusable, but if the main purpose of the board is for gaming, you'd be better off with one of the other two.As I said before, I don't think this is true.
Well, I like the feel of the M1, if I modded the stem on one of the keys, you think I could get it to feel like a black cherry key?
If you like the Alps switches on the ABS M1, you might be better off getting one of these - AT101Ws. (http://cgi.ebay.com/Dell-104-Key-PS2-6P-USA-Keyboard-NEW-227KN_W0QQitemZ330355813219QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCA_Mice_Trackballs?hash=item4ceabdab63&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14#ht_1903wt_1186) (You should be able to get one with an offer of $10)
Although they arent specifically NKRO, they don't have any dodgy controller issues and should serve you fine.
I've tried removing the tactile leaf from the switches in the M1 to make it linear and boy was it hard to use. The actuation point is relatively high on the stroke and the springs are quite light at the top of the stroke so just lightly resting your fingers on the keys can activate them.Guess I wont try that then lol. Thanks for the info. :)
Damn, $10 eh, might just get it cause its so cheap. I don't like the size though.
EDIT: $25 to ship to Canada with my $10 offer.
Guess I wont try that then lol. Thanks for the info. :)
$25 shipping is quite reasonable. You will be hard pressed to find -any- keyboard that ships out of the US that will cost less then that in shipping (and expect to pay $40-50 on delivery in brokerage if it comes UPS or FedEx).
Another option is the I-Rocks KR-6230, NCIX.com carries them so no cross border shipping. I haven't used one myself, but there's a few reviews here of the board.
I would be brand loyal here and go with Filco. Their keyboards are of very good quality. Although the ABS M1 looks exactly like a Filco, I will still go with the Filco
Another option is the I-Rocks KR-6230, NCIX.com carries them so no cross border shipping. I haven't used one myself, but there's a few reviews here of the board.
Well, if the OP likes Alps, he can't go wrong with at a $10 AT101W. Cherrys are quite different.
I think NKRO is overhyped. I've played plenty of games on non-NKRO boards without any issues. The thing with the ABS M1 is that it has a terrible controller, and that maybe what's to blame. Ive played a few games on an AT before, and had no such problems. At the end of the day, it's how intelligently the controller is designed as opposed to advertised NKRO support.
Too bad it uses ALPS though - yuck - I'm putting this back in the box. I don't know how you guys stand these friction laden, scratchy, keys - ORIGINAL or FAKE.
$25 shipping is quite reasonable. You will be hard pressed to find -any- keyboard that ships out of the US that will cost less then that in shipping (and expect to pay $40-50 on delivery in brokerage if it comes UPS or FedEx).
captain of the anti-alps league :-D
Yeah I'm used to those fees. :/
You guys really don't make me want to get that Dell. :(
I think I'm gonna go with the filco, probably brown tenkeyless one and the das keycap set.
Too bad it uses ALPS though - yuck - I'm putting this back in the box. I don't know how you guys stand these friction laden, scratchy, keys - REAL or FAKE.
Yeah I'm used to those fees. :/
You guys really don't make me want to get that Dell. :(
I think I'm gonna go with the filco, probably brown tenkeyless one and the das keycap set.
Alot of people don't like Alps switches, myself included. If you like the ones in your ABS then it would be worth the relatively small amount of money getting the Dell. That said, the Filco won't disappoint.
You guys make alps keys seem worst than dome switch lol.
"you guys" = ripster and the league staff ;D
dont let them throw you, there's plenty of people around who like alps just fine.
And -- you're going from alps to cherry browns on their recommendation? Dude, if experience on this forum has taught me anything, its that people rarely successfully jump from heavy switches to light (or vice versa). Will be interesting what you think of them - and what you think of them a month down the line.
IMO its worth the $35 just for the frame of reference, or at least a chance to make a call in person on it. And again, you can likely re-sell it for most of what you paid for it.
I went ahead and bought the Filco Majestouch Tenkeyless Tactile Touch (aka FMTTT), and the blank keycap set. Set me back $200 CAD. I don't think I'll have problems with the switches, I've only been using this board for about three months, and before that a Razer Lycosa, and G15. G15 is the only one that I never noticed this problem. :(
I ruled out the 7G when I noticed it had the giant enter key, and small backspace. No way I'm using that. And since the M1's been giving me trouble with the blocking, I decided to go with it since it was the only option, and a nice one at that. I only wish these keyboards had media keys for volume, play/pause, prev/next, mute. :(
Thanks for the responses. Glad I found this site lots of great info. :)
Just a heads up, you may have to pay taxes on the keyboard. I got the 104 version without the blank keycaps. The whole thing cost about CDN $150, but when it was delivered, the Canada Post employee collected CDN $19.58.
That's pretty reasonable. I don't mind paying duty on things when applicable, its getting charged $30 in "Brokerage fees" on top of the duty for an item regardless of its value. I think I've mentioned this before, but I remember UPS trying to collect $30 in brokerage for free samples I was trying to receive (actual value $0).
I ruled out the 7G when I noticed it had the giant enter key, and small backspace. No way I'm using that.
Finally got it. :) Cost me $13 at the post office.
Feels sooooo much better. The red esc key doesn't say Filco on it either which I'm glad.
I picked mine up at the post office. The order cost $200 CAD all together.
I ruled out the 7G when I noticed it had the giant enter key, and small backspace. No way I'm using that.
I feel the same way about the keyboards, like the TVS Gold, that retain the AT arrangement.
I'd be happy to have a giant Enter key and a smaller backspace, provided the backspace were in the right position:Show Image(http://www.quadibloc.com/comp/images/rkwk27.gif)
but that's a different matter entirely.
I can get used to a big enter key and a small backspace, but it's harder for me to get use to an inverted L enter key like on the British layout or the Canadian bilingual keyboard.
I am staring a this $15 Black Cherry numpad though and am trying to figure out if I can somehow jam it into a Nostromo N52 as a killer mod.
Glad you liked the Cherry Black Filco. After trying Cherry Blacks on a numpad I can see their appeal for gaming. Frankly, if people are REALLY serious about gaming they probably should get a keyboard for general typing and another for gaming. I'm just not gaming enough these days on a PC to justify it.
The depends on the nature of your mistakes. I used to make more mistakes on the Model M, because the keys were too stiff. I don't really make those mistakes anymore on the Cherry browns. These days, it's just my crappy typing skillz.
Ooh, I might want to even try that one. I don't know why, but I have always thought that the Nostromo n52 was one of the greatest ideas for a gaming controller ever. I'm suprised it's not more popular.