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Title: Endgame HHKB
Post by: IonutZ on Thu, 07 May 2015, 09:28:10: I wanted to share with you guys my endgame HHKB :)

* Type-S Dampeners (O-rings)
* 55g Domes
* Novatouch Sliders

Still waiting to install:
* Hasu's BT Controller
* 2x 1600mah batteries

On the side:
* 3x sets of keys (Black & White Unprinted, Black Printed)
* Type-S Sliders

Current setup:
(http://i.imgur.com/XNAGZwu.jpg)
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: JPG on Thu, 07 May 2015, 09:32:52: I am not a Topre fan, but this keyboard is really nice! Good job!
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: Dee1 on Thu, 07 May 2015, 09:40:02: Great-looking keyboard! :)
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: Air tree on Thu, 07 May 2015, 09:46:27: Great looking board! I'm planning to do something similar, I got 55g domes on hand, going to hop into the JT group buy for the sliders, and then I'm going to DIY silence them with Landing pads. And too finish it all off, a Hasu's controller. For probably my End game keyboard. (I shouldn't say that. I'll probably be buying more keyboards anyways...)

And maybe one day, that HHKB aluminium case if it ever comes to fruition. :thumb:

Anyways Nice job on everything. Look great.
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 07 May 2015, 09:51:14: Great board :thumb:
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: IonutZ on Thu, 07 May 2015, 10:00:10: Thanks guys :D
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: katushkin on Thu, 07 May 2015, 10:06:14: You flipped the entire bottom row? Interesting.

Looks awesome.
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: IonutZ on Thu, 07 May 2015, 10:11:36: Quote from: katushkin on Thu, 07 May 2015, 10:06:14
You flipped the entire bottom row? Interesting.

Looks awesome.

Thanks! I found it a lot more natural for my thumbs with which I usually hit the bottom row.
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: Air tree on Thu, 07 May 2015, 10:12:09: Quote from: katushkin on Thu, 07 May 2015, 10:06:14
You flipped the entire bottom row? Interesting.

Looks awesome.
Don't show demik this thread... :))
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: IonutZ on Thu, 07 May 2015, 10:17:36: If you keep your wrists on the table then you'd have to bend your thumb to reach a CMD button that's not inverted... This way, my thumb is straight and I can easily hit the key with the second flange of my thumb as well, and with less than 1cm travel between CMD and Space... it's the best way to go.
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: absyrd on Thu, 07 May 2015, 10:22:36: stock hhkb = eg
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 07 May 2015, 10:37:11: ERGODOX
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: Air tree on Thu, 07 May 2015, 10:41:49: Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 07 May 2015, 10:37:11
ERGODOX
Rectangle 4 lyfe.
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: IonutZ on Thu, 07 May 2015, 11:00:00: rektangle!
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: FoC_Tow on Thu, 07 May 2015, 11:52:29: Quote from: IonutZ on Thu, 07 May 2015, 09:28:10
I wanted to share with you guys my endgame HHKB :)

* Type-S Dampeners (O-rings)
* 55g Domes
* Novatouch Sliders

Still waiting to install:
* Hasu's BT Controller
* 2x 1600mah batteries

On the side:
* 3x sets of keys (Black & White Unprinted, Black Printed)
* Type-S Sliders

Current setup:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/XNAGZwu.jpg)

Awesome board IonutZ! Thats one crazy hybrid HHKB you have going on there xD

Regarding your plans on adding bluetooth tho, Im wondering how you are planning on fitting two 1600mAh batteries and how you are planning on connecting two to hasu's controller?

With lithium polymer batteries afaik you could not just wire them up in parallel, nor use two (with half the voltage each) in series without using a balancer to make sure they get charged evenly.

Using two 1600mAh in series also would still result in 1600 (not 3200mAh), and using them in parallel is already not recommended for alkaline batteries and can potentially be very dangerous with lithium ones since one could charge/discharge the other to the point of damaging it or even starting a fire....

You can actually buy lithium polymer batteries configured in parallel, but these have been made from tested to be matching cells and its not recommended to DIY this and even splitting up one of those pre-made parallel ones could potentially unbalance it I think.

So I'm not saying this is impossible, but definitely make sure what you are doing as lithium polymer batteries as hasu mentioned can potentially be very dangerous.
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: lookitdisnub on Thu, 07 May 2015, 12:14:38: Quote from: FoC_Tow on Thu, 07 May 2015, 11:52:29
Quote from: IonutZ on Thu, 07 May 2015, 09:28:10
I wanted to share with you guys my endgame HHKB :)

* Type-S Dampeners (O-rings)
* 55g Domes
* Novatouch Sliders

Still waiting to install:
* Hasu's BT Controller
* 2x 1600mah batteries

On the side:
* 3x sets of keys (Black & White Unprinted, Black Printed)
* Type-S Sliders

Current setup:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/XNAGZwu.jpg)

Awesome board IonutZ! Thats one crazy hybrid HHKB you have going on there xD

Regarding your plans on adding bluetooth tho, Im wondering how you are planning on fitting two 1600mAh batteries and how you are planning on connecting two to hasu's controller?

With lithium polymer batteries afaik you could not just wire them up in parallel, nor use two (with half the voltage each) in series without using a balancer to make sure they get charged evenly.

Using two 1600mAh in series also would still result in 1600 (not 3200mAh), and using them in parallel is already not recommended for alkaline batteries and can potentially be very dangerous with lithium ones since one could charge/discharge the other to the point of damaging it or even starting a fire....

You can actually buy lithium polymer batteries configured in parallel, but these have been made from tested to be matching cells and its not recommended to DIY this and even splitting up one of those pre-made parallel ones could potentially unbalance it I think.

So I'm not saying this is impossible, but definitely make sure what you are doing as lithium polymer batteries as hasu mentioned can potentially be very dangerous.

Having your HHKB blow up due to your batteries would be unfortunate
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: IonutZ on Thu, 07 May 2015, 12:21:43: Fair enough friends, I'll read more about balancing. I thought putting them in parallel would be fine.
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: Lurch on Thu, 07 May 2015, 12:28:45: Is there more "wiggle" with the novatouch stems vs the stock stems?
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: demik on Thu, 07 May 2015, 12:32:44: Cherry on topre is topre blasphemy.
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: Air tree on Thu, 07 May 2015, 12:41:59: Quote from: demik on Thu, 07 May 2015, 12:32:44
Cherry on topre is topre blasphemy.
demik, man, the Topre world is expanding. Now all those Cherry mx users can never again say topre users don't have keycap options.

Anyways, it's what on the inside that counts, and on the inside it's still the same oneness with cup rubber.

Embrace the change, the times are changing.
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: lookitdisnub on Thu, 07 May 2015, 12:49:52: I'm just grateful that the stock Topre caps are good enough that the lack of customization isn't a big issue
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: demik on Thu, 07 May 2015, 12:51:35: Quote from: Air tree on Thu, 07 May 2015, 12:41:59
Quote from: demik on Thu, 07 May 2015, 12:32:44
Cherry on topre is topre blasphemy.
demik, man, the Topre world is expanding. Now all those Cherry mx users can never again say topre users don't have keycap options.

Anyways, it's what on the inside that counts, and on the inside it's still the same oneness with cup rubber.

Embrace the change, the times are changing.
If we allow this, what next? Alps making a comeback? Cherry on bs? That's not the world I want to live in damn it. Our ancestors stood for something. NOT CHERRY ON TOPRE.
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: IonutZ on Thu, 07 May 2015, 13:04:43: hahaha. Purists these days...

Quote from: Lurch on Thu, 07 May 2015, 12:28:45
Is there more "wiggle" with the novatouch stems vs the stock stems?

Only the keys requiring stabs have a little more wiggle because the cylinder is slightly smaller. However, I had to drill holes left and right of the cylinder housing in order to get the stabilizers to pop out and allow the stem of the cherry caps to go in the housing.
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: FoC_Tow on Thu, 07 May 2015, 13:08:40: Quote from: IonutZ on Thu, 07 May 2015, 12:21:43
Fair enough friends, I'll read more about balancing. I thought putting them in parallel would be fine.

Glad if I could help IonutZ! =)

Kinda made me feel like a buzzkill bringing this up, but lithium polymer is usually more complicated and dangerous then one would think,
so Its kinda important to be aware of it as well.
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: IonutZ on Thu, 07 May 2015, 13:36:12: Yessir! I started reading about a balancer... well even a 1600mah will do. I bought a 3000mah (that's really slim) thinking I could fit it in. But figured out that 2 halves would work a lot easier.
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Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 07 May 2015, 13:37:38: .
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: appleonama on Thu, 07 May 2015, 13:46:27: 55g, gross
flipped bottom row, ruined
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: illitirit on Thu, 07 May 2015, 20:06:38: Hey thats great man, I am about to attempt the novatouch slider mod in a few days on my hhkb

I am just curious though, is your spacebar using the novatouch stabilizers or are you still using your stock HHKB stabilizers?

The Topre standard spacebar size is not the same as cherry standard right?

Did you just leave the spacebar as stock?
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 07 May 2015, 21:43:31: Is the spacebar dcs as well or is it the original topre spacebar?

If it's dcs, how did you install the stabilizers for it?
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: IonutZ on Thu, 07 May 2015, 21:59:03: The only thing on the hhkb that has housings is the space bar, so you could replace the spacebar if you wanted to. I however didn't have a 6 spacebar... the GH Nostalgia only came with 6.25 +

It wouldn't be an issue to replace stabs with novatouch stabs on spacebar though.
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: KeypressGraphics on Fri, 08 May 2015, 07:23:37: Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 07 May 2015, 10:37:11
ERGODOX
Why is there no ergonomic Topre keyboard in existence? There'd have to be a demand out there for one.
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 May 2015, 07:55:20: There is an ergonomic Topre. The uTron
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 08 May 2015, 08:03:16: Epic dude, congrats
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: PieSauruS on Fri, 08 May 2015, 14:01:09: First reply ever on this forum: Amazing :eek:
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: KeypressGraphics on Fri, 08 May 2015, 16:46:26: Quote from: CPTBadAss on Fri, 08 May 2015, 07:55:20
There is an ergonomic Topre. The uTron
Very interesting, I'd never heard of that keyboard before CPTBadAss. US$400+ isn't cheap!
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Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 08 May 2015, 23:24:04: .
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: Metr0 on Sat, 09 May 2015, 04:49:36: Looks awesome dude! Makes me wonder what I can do with my new HHKB...
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: IonutZ on Sat, 09 May 2015, 11:18:11: Thanks guys :D Hasu's controller's about to go inside of it, and then I'll post some more pics!!
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: tkim on Sun, 10 May 2015, 07:53:01: Going with the BT controller?, I am eyeing that too.
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: IonutZ on Sun, 10 May 2015, 11:37:19: Totally man, this is my second HHKB with the BT controller. Just installed it yesterday, it is extremely dope. Pics incoming.
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: IonutZ on Mon, 11 May 2015, 17:38:53: Which one do we like better?!

V1
(http://i.imgur.com/M2Pa6nL.jpg)

V2
(http://i.imgur.com/eloS1nR.jpg)
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: Air tree on Mon, 11 May 2015, 20:17:40: V2 meshes better in my opinion!

Looking good.
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 11 May 2015, 21:01:07: Did you use the type-s dampeners with o-rings?

Do the type-s dampeners work well with the novatouch stems?
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 11 May 2015, 22:39:27: Quote from: IonutZ on Mon, 11 May 2015, 17:38:53
Which one do we like better?!

V1
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/M2Pa6nL.jpg)

V2
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/eloS1nR.jpg)

Neither - the bottom row is broken on both of them.
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 11 May 2015, 22:40:17: Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 11 May 2015, 22:39:27
Quote from: IonutZ on Mon, 11 May 2015, 17:38:53
Which one do we like better?!

V1
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/M2Pa6nL.jpg)

V2
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/eloS1nR.jpg)

Neither - the bottom row is broken on both of them.
QFT , the case of the HHKB is too high for the spacebar to be comfortably flipped
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: sprit on Mon, 11 May 2015, 23:02:55: Quote from: IonutZ on Mon, 11 May 2015, 17:38:53
Which one do we like better?!

V1
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/M2Pa6nL.jpg)

V2
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/eloS1nR.jpg)

2nd one! 1st one looks fancy w orange backspace, 2nd one looks sassy classical.
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: Evo_Spec on Mon, 11 May 2015, 23:17:28: I like v2
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: azhdar on Tue, 12 May 2015, 01:30:36: Quote from: IonutZ on Mon, 11 May 2015, 17:38:53
Which one do we like better?!

V1
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/M2Pa6nL.jpg)

V2
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/eloS1nR.jpg)

V2.
If the 1u on the bottom row where orange that would be even better.
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: demik on Tue, 12 May 2015, 02:44:06: that bottom row is hideous wtf
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: IonutZ on Tue, 12 May 2015, 08:05:23: Quote from: Latin00032 on Mon, 11 May 2015, 21:01:07
Did you use the type-s dampeners with o-rings?

Do the type-s dampeners work well with the novatouch stems?

Yes! Even though the novatouch stems are smaller than even the regular HHKB sliders.

Quote from: demik on Tue, 12 May 2015, 02:44:06
that bottom row is hideous wtf

To each their own lol. To me it actually makes sense the way I type.

Quote from: azhdar on Tue, 12 May 2015, 01:30:36
Quote from: IonutZ on Mon, 11 May 2015, 17:38:53
Which one do we like better?!

V1
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/M2Pa6nL.jpg)

V2
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/eloS1nR.jpg)

V2.
If the 1u on the bottom row where orange that would be even better.

I know but it didn't come with them :(
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 12 May 2015, 20:17:58: The novatouch sliders being shorter than regular hhkb sliders makes me wonder how bunnylake's sliders are going to be.

If they are based off novatouch sliders they will be short. If the heights of the sliders are based off hhkb sliders they might be better.
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: Air tree on Tue, 12 May 2015, 20:22:31: Quote from: Latin00032 on Tue, 12 May 2015, 20:17:58
The novatouch sliders being shorter than regular hhkb sliders makes me wonder how bunnylake's sliders are going to be.

If they are based off novatouch sliders they will be short. If the heights of the sliders are based off hhkb sliders they might be better.
I wonder if they'll have the same rattle as reported by other users..
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: Evo_Spec on Tue, 12 May 2015, 21:31:25: Quote from: Air tree on Tue, 12 May 2015, 20:22:31
Quote from: Latin00032 on Tue, 12 May 2015, 20:17:58
The novatouch sliders being shorter than regular hhkb sliders makes me wonder how bunnylake's sliders are going to be.

If they are based off novatouch sliders they will be short. If the heights of the sliders are based off hhkb sliders they might be better.
I wonder if they'll have the same rattle as reported by other users..
Well he said they did lots of testing so I imagine there wouldn't be unless he was only talking about the caps when he mentioned testing.
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: FoC_Tow on Wed, 13 May 2015, 15:02:55: Seems like Im late to the game but... I vote V2 as well! :thumb:

Hard to explain why, but it looks like a better balance between colors to me.
Also on V1 the Bro and modifier seem not like a perfect color match,
while on V2 you hardly notice any difference since the colors aren't right next to each other. :)
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: KHAANNN on Thu, 14 May 2015, 06:00:13: The game never ends?

V2 as the bot is less distracting, the all orange one draws attention too much, the V2 one is easier on the eyes
Title: Re: Endgame HHKB
Post by: IonutZ on Thu, 14 May 2015, 09:18:18: V2 it is :D I've been running it for a few days, I love it.

Also it would be amazing if Bunny's sliders were the size of Type-S sliders... that's at least 1mm taller.