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Title: Here's a 122-key branded ComputerLab 2000...
Post by: Shawn Stanford on Tue, 15 September 2009, 19:20:39
With an AT plug..?
http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-RARE-MODEL-M-CLICKY-KEYBOARD-COMPUTERLAB-2000_W0QQitemZ250497160207QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCA_Mice_Trackballs?hash=item3a52cb540f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/8/4/3/6/6/0/webimg/299853179_o.jpg)
Title: Here's a 122-key branded ComputerLab 2000...
Post by: D-EJ915 on Tue, 15 September 2009, 19:49:35
good lord that is gross, also...plastic wrap still on an ancient keyboard? lol some people are so lazy.

anyway that looks like a mini-din sized plug
Title: Here's a 122-key branded ComputerLab 2000...
Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 16 September 2009, 15:30:43
It's probably a rebranded Unicomp one. Unicomp make some PS/2 versions of the 122-key, unfortunately the extra keys are only usable if you have the appropriate software/drivers. But I'd imagine that in Linux (or Windows with enough hacking) that you could map them to whatever you want.
Title: Here's a 122-key branded ComputerLab 2000...
Post by: Rajagra on Wed, 16 September 2009, 15:38:38
Quote from: D-EJ915;118268
also...plastic wrap still on an ancient keyboard? lol some people are so lazy.


It can be hard work when the wrap is taped on instead of cable tied. When you have hundreds of machines to install, trying to pick the tape off with your nail gets old real quick. I still break out in a sweat when I think about it.
Title: Here's a 122-key branded ComputerLab 2000...
Post by: D-EJ915 on Wed, 16 September 2009, 15:51:48
I think this might be the one that doesn't use the standard PC driver because it lacks the labels for the PC keys
Title: Here's a 122-key branded ComputerLab 2000...
Post by: microsoft windows on Wed, 16 September 2009, 19:44:43
That keyboard looks a little dirty but I like the "Computer Lab 2000" brand name.
Title: Here's a 122-key branded ComputerLab 2000...
Post by: ch_123 on Thu, 17 September 2009, 05:13:50
I wonder why companies like Boscom haven't switched over to Rubber Dome models, seems that in such a niche business, one should cut their costs wherever possible.
Title: Here's a 122-key branded ComputerLab 2000...
Post by: quadibloc on Thu, 17 September 2009, 07:27:39
Quote from: ch_123;118677
I wonder why companies like Boscom haven't switched over to Rubber Dome models, seems that in such a niche business, one should cut their costs wherever possible.


I suspect it's the cost of retooling. If there are non-Unicomp 122-key keyboards out there, I'd expect them to use Cherry switches. I admit that rubber dome 122-key keyboards exist, since I own one, but it was made a long time ago, back when there was a big market for 122-key keyboards.

So the companies that made them then perhaps still do, but it's not an option for new entrants.

Plus, when it's a niche business, the price has to be high anyways, so you might as well sell something that suggests it has quality worth the price.
Title: Here's a 122-key branded ComputerLab 2000...
Post by: Shawn Stanford on Thu, 17 September 2009, 09:02:33
Quote from: quadibloc;118701
I suspect it's the cost of retooling. Plus, when it's a niche business, the price has to be high anyways, so you might as well sell something that suggests it has quality worth the price.

I think it might be straight up cost, since they purchased all IBM's tooling. But, even past that: engineering and tooling for a new BS keyboard is probably cheaper than making a new rubber dome keyboard. With a new BS, they need to manufacture a unique backplane with traces and a case to match. They already have the keyswitches and keycaps and it's a matter of mounting those existing pieces into the new backplane and case. With a dome board, there's a unique piece of rubber and a more complex backplane in addition to the case and keys. That's additional R&D and tooling.
Title: Here's a 122-key branded ComputerLab 2000...
Post by: quadibloc on Thu, 17 September 2009, 11:03:47
Quote from: Shawn Stanford;118710
I think it might be straight up cost, since they purchased all IBM's tooling.


Unicomp did that; I thought the "they" we were discussing was Boscom, which could choose instead to get its keyboards made with a rubber mat in China. Or am I all confused here?
Title: Here's a 122-key branded ComputerLab 2000...
Post by: Shawn Stanford on Thu, 17 September 2009, 11:47:37
My Boscom was manufactured by Unicomp...