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Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: timw4mail on Fri, 18 September 2009, 11:56:33
I'm really not trying to spam the website, but really, I must like typing more than I thought.

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=4621&stc=1&d=1253292951) (http://keyhero.com)
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: AndrewZorn on Fri, 18 September 2009, 12:05:24
qwerty or other?

imaboutago get colemak up on this b

first run:
65.53
96.41%

i think the less i do typing games the faster my skill increases

(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1526/70449557.jpg)
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: timw4mail on Fri, 18 September 2009, 12:08:45
Quote from: AndrewZorn;119028
qwerty or other?

imaboutago get colemak up on this b

Well, the last time I checked, a lot of the entries were Colemak. That is, yesterday or so.
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: AndrewZorn on Fri, 18 September 2009, 12:20:40
i think its unpopular.  typeracer is the most popular and has better quotes but i think hi-games has a better system.

(72wpm ooooohhhh)
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: timw4mail on Fri, 18 September 2009, 12:27:52
I managed to grab 83.89, a personal record for me.
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: watduzhkstand4 on Fri, 18 September 2009, 12:53:18
Quote from: timw4mail;119035
I managed to grab 83.89, a personal record for me.


I was nosy so I went to go sign up and I guess our fellow geekhackers with our geekhacking keyboards really typing up a storm! =D

I came in at 81 just below you tim4mail (;
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: timw4mail on Fri, 18 September 2009, 12:54:52
Quote from: watduzhkstand4;119040
I was nosy so I went to go sign up and I guess our fellow geekhackers with our geekhacking keyboards really typing up a storm! =D

I came in at 81 just below you tim4mail (;

Enter your layout in your profile, I want to know what I'm up against.
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: takasta on Fri, 18 September 2009, 13:20:55
lol takasta here, just checked out the site. Looks pretty cool haha. Looks like i topped the day with 109.42 wpm, 99.6% with my RF UB103 hehe.
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: watduzhkstand4 on Fri, 18 September 2009, 13:35:08
Quote from: takasta;119055
lol takasta here, just checked out the site. Looks pretty cool haha. Looks like i topped the day with 109.42 wpm, 99.6% with my RF UB103 hehe.


oh I hate you =P Good job though =D
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: AndrewZorn on Fri, 18 September 2009, 14:22:04
what!?  where has my score gone?

time to take a shower, cut my fingernails, turn off the AC, and PERFORM
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: timw4mail on Fri, 18 September 2009, 14:25:10
Quote from: AndrewZorn;119074
what!?  where has my score gone?

time to take a shower, cut my fingernails, turn off the AC, and PERFORM

Considering I'm just really starting to "roll" my words, I'd say my 83.89 is pretty good. (And that's the only score I have up anymore).

Ah well, if I hadn't posted here, I probably would have everything except the first slot filled.
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: lowpoly on Fri, 18 September 2009, 14:31:02
Quote from: AndrewZorn;119032
i think its unpopular.  typeracer is the most popular and has better quotes but i think hi-games has a better system.

(72wpm ooooohhhh)

This hi-games? (http://hi-games.net/typing-test/)

(I'm adding those to Wiki/Keyboard Links)
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: AndrewZorn on Fri, 18 September 2009, 14:44:47
thats the one
but the 5min test is for real men
http://hi-games.net/typing-test,300/

can't touch today's scores on keyhero though, they are ruined.
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: cmr on Fri, 18 September 2009, 15:26:43
keyhero seems nice, but the "hey you made a typo" alarm is far too subtle compared to typeracer.
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: timw4mail on Fri, 18 September 2009, 17:14:12
Quote from: cmr;119086
keyhero seems nice, but the "hey you made a typo" alarm is far too subtle compared to typeracer.

Yeah, it's kind of irritating in that way.
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: hyperlinked on Fri, 18 September 2009, 17:21:06
The replay feature on hi-games is a nice touch so you can see exactly how you were screwing up...

My arms and hands are sore after that... for real men indeed!
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: hyperlinked on Fri, 18 September 2009, 17:28:42
Keyhero is buggy too. Whenever I fumble the opening word or couple of words, nothing I do seems to get it back on track. Everything goes red regardless.
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: Techno Trousers on Fri, 18 September 2009, 18:53:15
Holy moly! I'd love to actually see (and hear) someone typing 145 WPM!

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=4623&stc=1&d=1253317966)
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: JBert on Sat, 19 September 2009, 04:27:11
If he's typing on a clicky keyboard, I'd rather not be anywhere near him.
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: hyperlinked on Sat, 19 September 2009, 05:16:36
Quote from: JBert;119183
If he's typing on a clicky keyboard, I'd rather not be anywhere near him.


How could you say such an insensitive thing on a site like this! :embarassed:
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: Rajagra on Sat, 19 September 2009, 07:12:36
Quote from: hyperlinked;119102
The replay feature on hi-games is a nice touch so you can see exactly how you were screwing up...

... and see how much smoother Colemak and Dvorak are than QWERTY. Watching some replays there is what finally convinced me to switch.
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: JBert on Sat, 19 September 2009, 12:18:11
Quote from: hyperlinked;119191
How could you say such an insensitive thing on a site like this! :embarassed:
Well, there's clicky and there's considerable ruckus. Someone typing 145 WPM on a buckling spring/Cherry blue/Alps keyboard would IMO fall in the second category.
Now if only someone could post a sample to verify though, then maybe I'd change my mind.
 :typing:


Anyhow, did anyone manage to shake Keyhero's roster upside down?
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: megarat on Sat, 19 September 2009, 16:18:55
I have a personal annoyance with most of these type-measuring sites, which is their inflexibility with punctuation.

I normally type two spaces after a sentence, and it's been deeply wired into my muscle memory since 1983 (when I took my 8th-grade typing class).  The sites that I've used count a double-space as an error, and require you to go back and fix the error before moving on.

The same thing with dashes.  I use publishing convention, which is two dashes for an em-dash with a space on either side.  keyhero, for instance, uses just a single dash, occasionally with no surrounding spaces, occasionally with one.  Either way, if you get it wrong, you need to go back and fix it.

There should be more flexibility in their engines for evaluating typographic mistakes, instead of mere character-by-character correctness.  Such limitations have me constantly self-monitoring, just to make sure that I'm hitting their punctuation absolutely correctly, in spite of what my muscle memory wants to do.

Just now, I managed to score a 103.42 WPM with 98.48% accuracy.  I wonder what I would get if I wasn't constantly scanning for punctuation.
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: AndrewZorn on Sat, 19 September 2009, 16:22:43
actually, the hi-games typing test has these two options you seek.

http://hi-games.net/typing-test,300/
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: megarat on Sat, 19 September 2009, 17:25:28
Quote from: AndrewZorn;119293
actually, the hi-games typing test has these two options you seek.

http://hi-games.net/typing-test,300/


Thanks for the reference, I'll check it out.
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: cmr on Sat, 19 September 2009, 17:29:08
two spaces after a period is deprecated. time to unlearn.
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: hyperlinked on Sat, 19 September 2009, 20:57:56
Quote from: Rajagra;119203
... and see how much smoother Colemak and Dvorak are than QWERTY. Watching some replays there is what finally convinced me to switch.


Hmmm! Interesting. I'll have to go look up some replays of those.
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: hyperlinked on Sat, 19 September 2009, 21:13:59
Quote from: megarat;119292
I have a personal annoyance with most of these type-measuring sites, which is their inflexibility with punctuation.

Just now, I managed to score a 103.42 WPM with 98.48% accuracy.  I wonder what I would get if I wasn't constantly scanning for punctuation.


The answer is that you would have done better, but regardless of how much better your score is, it's still a game that's not a pure measure of how fast you type. It also measures your ability to follow a script that's sometimes irregular, your ability to stay cool under pressure, and your ability to spell as well as your typing ability.

It's also a measure of your eyesight.  Scanning for punctuation is part of this game, but I can relate to your difficulty in suppressing the double space after a period tendency though. I also learned to touch type in the mid 80's when two spaces after a period was standard. I continued doing that until around five years ago when I trained myself to stop doing it.
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: AndrewZorn on Sat, 19 September 2009, 21:21:29
Quote from: cmr;119302
two spaces after a period is deprecated. Time to unlearn.
lalallalalla cant hear you

i am only 22, why was i taught 2 spaces when everyone else acts like i am saying "thee"?
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: cmr on Sat, 19 September 2009, 21:55:55
Quote from: AndrewZorn;119319
lalallalalla cant hear you

i am only 22, why was i taught 2 spaces when everyone else acts like i am saying "thee"?


i'm 28. what's your excuse?
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: AndrewZorn on Sat, 19 September 2009, 21:59:28
exactly
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: timw4mail on Sat, 19 September 2009, 22:36:22
Two spaces after a sentence is just a way to fill up a few characters extra spaces in essays...otherwise very much deprecated.
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: Rajagra on Sat, 19 September 2009, 22:40:13
Yes, formatting letters that are easy on the eye is considered unnecessary nowadays.

Anyone else remember indenting the start of paragraphs in letters?
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: hyperlinked on Sat, 19 September 2009, 22:55:31
Quote from: Rajagra;119335
Yes, formatting letters that are easy on the eye is considered unnecessary nowadays.

Anyone else remember indenting the start of paragraphs in letters?


Ha, remember the requisite 4 carriage returns in between the left aligned address and the start of the business letter?
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: AndrewZorn on Sat, 19 September 2009, 22:59:51
had no idea we stopped doing this either
not that i write a lot of paragraphs in the first place
but the double space thing will be hard to stop doing
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Sat, 19 September 2009, 23:48:16
Quote from: megarat;119292
I have a personal annoyance with most of these type-measuring sites, which is their inflexibility with punctuation.

I normally type two spaces after a sentence, and it's been deeply wired into my muscle memory since 1983 (when I took my 8th-grade typing class).  The sites that I've used count a double-space as an error, and require you to go back and fix the error before moving on.

The same thing with dashes.  I use publishing convention, which is two dashes for an em-dash with a space on either side.  keyhero, for instance, uses just a single dash, occasionally with no surrounding spaces, occasionally with one.  Either way, if you get it wrong, you need to go back and fix it.

There should be more flexibility in their engines for evaluating typographic mistakes, instead of mere character-by-character correctness.  Such limitations have me constantly self-monitoring, just to make sure that I'm hitting their punctuation absolutely correctly, in spite of what my muscle memory wants to do.

Just now, I managed to score a 103.42 WPM with 98.48% accuracy.  I wonder what I would get if I wasn't constantly scanning for punctuation.


I, too, have some annoyances with some of the typing sites. Keyhero is unusable for me because I  use a work around to get  US-International on my Mac. I tried typeracer for the first time today. It will take some getting used to the  way it works and  not constantly looking at the cars. This is why I prefer speed test: no annoying banner and US-International works. That said, typeracer is  a lot of fun.
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Sun, 20 September 2009, 00:14:02
I just hate it when typeracer will ask me to type an exerpt from a poem. I just hate this!!!
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: hyperlinked on Sun, 20 September 2009, 00:46:15
Quote from: patrickgeekhack;119344
I just hate it when typeracer will ask me to type an exerpt from a poem. I just hate this!!!


LOL, it's not supposed to be easy. I just wish there was some way to force people into typing the hard stuff as well as the easy stuff. A lot of users there bail as soon as they see a hard quote so they can keep their WPM nice and shiny.

I find the ad on the right side of typeracer to be really distracting when it's an animated banner. It takes conscious effort to not pay any attention to it.
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: AndrewZorn on Sun, 20 September 2009, 09:53:53
almost the opposite.  when i get to type a quote from the matrix that i already KNOW, i get so excited that i cant do it.
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: DreymaR on Mon, 21 September 2009, 05:37:24
Quote from: AndrewZorn;119319
i am only 22, why was i taught 2 spaces when everyone else acts like i am saying "thee"?


I outdate thee by decades, foolish knave, yet wouldst thou persist in erring where I have reformed - aye, and in ages past? Fie on thee, then!
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: DreymaR on Mon, 21 September 2009, 05:39:47
Quote from: hyperlinked;119346
I just wish there was some way to force people into typing the hard stuff as well as the easy stuff. A lot of users there bail as soon as they see a hard quote so they can keep their WPM nice and shiny.


Just consider it a sobering knowledge for you. If people cheat at a typing game, they have already lost; if you care too much about the roster... you lose too. Play like it's hardcore, lose like it's softcore.
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: hyperlinked on Mon, 21 September 2009, 05:54:17
Quote from: DreymaR;119513
I outdate thee by decades, foolish knave, yet wouldst thou persist in erring where I have reformed - aye, and in ages past? Fie on thee, then!


Talk like a confused pirate day was a few days ago.
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: DreymaR on Mon, 21 September 2009, 06:14:52
I learnt to talk like that from reading Le Morte d'Arthur among many many other things. Your cultural references are too narrow for my tastes. Had I ventured an 'avast' I could've related to your jibe.  ;)
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: JBert on Mon, 21 September 2009, 06:22:30
Somehow I also fail to see the link between Ye Olde English and pirate talk.
Title: Keyhero obviously isn't a big site...
Post by: Rajagra on Mon, 21 September 2009, 08:23:58
It's not pirate talk unless you follow the correct grammar rules...
(http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/comics/irreg2063.jpg) (http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/2063.html)