?Because it just works!
if this is not photoshopped, it's an awesome rig! seriously awesome!Show Image(https://images.curved.de/article_detail_curved/2015/01/10.jpg)
because, pure nostalgia for 80's kids.
I use a late 2011 macbook pro. This is most probably the last Mac i'll ever have. All their new product line is just non-sense. Even the retina models, either you buy top of the line with them or forget of having a capable computer for more than 2-3 years, there is no way to upgrade it yourself.
I use a late 2011 macbook pro. This is most probably the last Mac i'll ever have. All their new product line is just non-sense. Even the retina models, either you buy top of the line with them or forget of having a capable computer for more than 2-3 years, there is no way to upgrade it yourself.
Pretty much. Next time around I'm getting a nice laptop and throwing Linux on it.
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because, pure nostalgia for 80's kids.
I use a late 2011 macbook pro. This is most probably the last Mac i'll ever have. All their new product line is just non-sense. Even the retina models, either you buy top of the line with them or forget of having a capable computer for more than 2-3 years, there is no way to upgrade it yourself.
Pretty much. Next time around I'm getting a nice laptop and throwing Linux on it.
Exactly what are ya'll planning to upgrade on a laptop?
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because, pure nostalgia for 80's kids.
Oh SH1T, is this for real, can you actually buy it from Apple now?
GAWDamn, they know how to tweak my old wallet just right here, YES I would buy it straight away if it's available here in Convict Town.
I use a late 2011 macbook pro. This is most probably the last Mac i'll ever have. All their new product line is just non-sense. Even the retina models, either you buy top of the line with them or forget of having a capable computer for more than 2-3 years, there is no way to upgrade it yourself.
Pretty much. Next time around I'm getting a nice laptop and throwing Linux on it.
Exactly what are ya'll planning to upgrade on a laptop?
RAM :p ;D :D
You mean the Macbook with one port? Eww.
I love OS X and like Apple hardware when it works right (Applecare is an invaluable commodity, kids), but the Macbook looks like it's just a bad generation-one product. I'll be proved wrong when it sells 100 million units and cures cancer, but whatever. I prefer a computer with at least ONE USB and a place to charge concurrently.
Oh, right. Those I can semi-get behind. I just had such rotten luck with my Core 2 Duo / i5 replacement that I am a bit sour on Apple portables that aren't iPads. After about six logic boards for a Macbook Pro, you get sick of seeing Apple employees and don't want to bother with their hardware for a while.
Applecare. It should be included with the purchase price.
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because, pure nostalgia for 80's kids.
* YMMV, and it's probably partially to do with the fact I'm used to not-windows, but when I'm required to use Windows I'm left with the feeling that I'm having to adapt the way I work to the way the computer wants to do things, rather than the other way around. And don't even get me started on Linux.
Oh, that thing I posted was someone mod project of a Macbook air. You can read some about it here (https://curved.de/news/curvedlabs-ein-facelift-fuer-den-macintosh-198570).
I use a late 2011 macbook pro. This is most probably the last Mac i'll ever have. All their new product line is just non-sense. Even the retina models, either you buy top of the line with them or forget of having a capable computer for more than 2-3 years, there is no way to upgrade it yourself.
Pretty much. Next time around I'm getting a nice laptop and throwing Linux on it.
Exactly what are ya'll planning to upgrade on a laptop?
RAM :p ;D :D
RAM and drives. Mine has already an aftermarket ssd and a additional 1 TB drive in the optical bay slot, you canīt do that in recent models.
>you canīt do that in recent models.
Exactly! Apple has gone off the deep end with restricting the use of their products.
>you canīt do that in recent models.
Exactly! Apple has gone off the deep end with restricting the use of their products.
Even the desktops are getting limited. The new Mac Mini is basically tamper-proof now. Guess they wouldn't want you putting an SSD in your $750 ultrabook-powered "desktop" computer in 2015. :rolleyes:
Applecare is an invaluable commodity, kids
Applecare. It should be included with the purchase price.Part of it is in Europe. A two-year limited warranty is compulsory by EU law, more or less.
Seriously, they really are enforcing the "Apple Experience" now. Oh well, back to the PC master race...not that I ever left though...I'll always be a member of the master race.
>you canīt do that in recent models.
Exactly! Apple has gone off the deep end with restricting the use of their products.
Even the desktops are getting limited. The new Mac Mini is basically tamper-proof now. Guess they wouldn't want you putting an SSD in your $750 ultrabook-powered "desktop" computer in 2015. :rolleyes:
Seriously, they really are enforcing the "Apple Experience" now. Oh well, back to the PC master race...not that I ever left though...I'll always be a member of the master race.
Oh, right. Those I can semi-get behind. I just had such rotten luck with my Core 2 Duo / i5 replacement that I am a bit sour on Apple portables that aren't iPads. After about six logic boards for a Macbook Pro, you get sick of seeing Apple employees and don't want to bother with their hardware for a while.
Applecare. It should be included with the purchase price.
As an iPhone user for 4+ years now I still cant see the point of an iPad...
Mainly I care about the overall experience. I really like Apple hardware, I prefer the unix underpinnings of OSX, and I don't have to worry about fiddling with **** to get the hardware working. Plus the developer ecosystem is pretty great. And dat battery life.
The idea of using Windows on a laptop as a main OS actually produces a negative physical reaction in me. It's bad enough when I have to boot up Parallels for Visual Studio dev.
But for some reason it's not the same on my desktop machine.
... the overall (insanely-user-friendly) experience.Bah! Macintosh has always had that attitude of "You can do only what we tell you you can do, and nothing else". I hate that.
... the overall (insanely-user-friendly) experience.Bah! Macintosh has always had that attitude of "You can do only what we tell you you can do, and nothing else". I hate that.
But sure, Microsoft's way of requiring users to know their stuff and treat them as idiots is worse.
... the overall (insanely-user-friendly) experience.Bah! Macintosh has always had that attitude of "You can do only what we tell you you can do, and nothing else". I hate that.
But sure, Microsoft's way of requiring users to know their stuff and treat them as idiots is worse.
there's that, and there's the fact that osx (even now with the tons of bugs) feels thought-out and more fluid than windows has ever felt (which is really what i was referring to)
Die hard pc fan here, grew up with pcs. I dislike osx, how it handles windows is pathetic and how closed the system is sucks. I, however like one thing about macs and that is the build quality of the laptops. It is second to none. The touchpad and the keyboard experience is by far the best you get on a laptop. I went from a macbook to asus zenbook and am now planning on selling the asus to get a macbook again.
I'm curious to learn what sorts of things folks want to do on OS X that the OS does not allow. If you've encountered problems, could you elaborate?lol
One thing I like about OS X is that many developers have written handy utilities for it. Little shortcuts or optimizations to make certain tasks a little smoother.
My current favorite is Spectacle http://spectacleapp.com which enables powerful window management shortcuts. It's great.
The nice thing about OSX is the hybrid-mach kernel, so you can out of the box utilize many of the benefits of a *NIX system.
I have reached the stage where I believe an OS should just do its job and get out of the way so you can run your application/s.
Windows does not do that for me - I am constantly fighting it to get simple things to work. UI design is horrible. User controls are horrible. There is little consistency, even across Microsoft applications.
Linux generally has far too many configuration options and consists of different software, written independently by different groups, trying to work together to make one system, and still seems a bit fragile, although Linux on the desktop is improving. Although the Linux kernel is stable, various apps crash or won't work together quite often. There is generally good UI consistency within one UI framework, but there are so many frameworks (GNOME, KDE and XFCE just to name three) that different apps usually look different.
Mac Just Works (tm). There are not that many configuration options, and it looks and works acceptably well out of the box. It works as I expect, and pretty much gets out of the way so I can do my work. Most common software is available, mostly outside of the Apple store, but that's fine by me. The hardware and OS are all created by Apple, and work very well together. As stable as - only had a couple of OS crashes in more than 6 years. Pretty much every Mac app looks and works the same (with the exception of those still using X).
Oh SH1T, is this for real, can you actually buy it from Apple now?
Oh, that thing I posted was someone mod project of a Macbook air. You can read some about it here (https://curved.de/news/curvedlabs-ein-facelift-fuer-den-macintosh-198570).
That said, I'll hold on to my Mac mini that I have until it explodes. I can upgrade RAM and HDD. I feel like Apple has blessed me for that right.
I'm thinking of getting an older one to use as a beater Mac, but I'm curious which generation you have that you enjoy.
I'm thinking of getting an older one to use as a beater Mac, but I'm curious which generation you have that you enjoy.
I'd say the Late 2012 is the Mini to buy. It's the last generation with a fair amount of power, and the ability to be upgraded.
The current 2014 machine has a gimped CPU, and if I remember right, the ram is now soldered on it too. The 2012 product can be easily upgraded to run with a second HDD, and has upgradable memory slots as well.
I'm thinking of getting an older one to use as a beater Mac, but I'm curious which generation you have that you enjoy.
I'd say the Late 2012 is the Mini to buy. It's the last generation with a fair amount of power, and the ability to be upgraded.
The current 2014 machine has a gimped CPU, and if I remember right, the ram is now soldered on it too. The 2012 product can be easily upgraded to run with a second HDD, and has upgradable memory slots as well.
I use my MacBook for school, I mainly just like the gestures of the touch-pad and the multiple work spaces. it gives the feeling of having multiple monitors without actually having multiple monitors.
I'm more of a UNIX guy than a Mac guy. I had absolutely no interest in the Mac OS prior to OS X. Now, it's a great UI over a sane OS. Easy enough for a complete novice with all the command line goodness to satisfy the geeks as well. Add tons of third party commercial software support and sexy design and what's not to like?
I bought a couple of 13.3" cMBP's a few years back...as we knew they'd be the last ones with decent upgradeability (one for the wife and one for me). Both are still running strong...
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I'm thinking of getting an older one to use as a beater Mac, but I'm curious which generation you have that you enjoy.
I'd say the Late 2012 is the Mini to buy. It's the last generation with a fair amount of power, and the ability to be upgraded.
The current 2014 machine has a gimped CPU, and if I remember right, the ram is now soldered on it too. The 2012 product can be easily upgraded to run with a second HDD, and has upgradable memory slots as well.
This.
For a while there were a lot of 2012 Mac minis on the refurb store as many who bought one returned it in and presumably got the 2014 model.
Now the refurb store is empty of 2012 Mac minis and full of 2014 ones as people realised their mistakes.
"Macs are appliances, not for power users"Because iOS development = money, and the rest are web coders.
OS X worldwide market share is around 4.5%. However the latest Stack Overflow survey has it at 21.5%. Linux sits at 20.5%. Data suggests that OS X, like Linux, is disproportionately popular among developers. Developer are power users, aren't they? An awful lot of them like Macs.
"Macs are appliances, not for power users"Power users crave powerful systems, but that's not what defines them.
OS X worldwide market share is around 4.5%. However the latest Stack Overflow survey has it at 21.5%. Linux sits at 20.5%. Data suggests that OS X, like Linux, is disproportionately popular among developers. Developer are power users, aren't they? An awful lot of them like Macs.
"Macs are appliances, not for power users"Power users crave powerful systems, but that's not what defines them.
OS X worldwide market share is around 4.5%. However the latest Stack Overflow survey has it at 21.5%. Linux sits at 20.5%. Data suggests that OS X, like Linux, is disproportionately popular among developers. Developer are power users, aren't they? An awful lot of them like Macs.
A power user wants control over the system, to make it do what they want. It may be old, it may be new, it may be fast or slow, but regardless, it's going to be tweaked to eek as much out of the machine as they can. In other words, they see the computer as a tool to be honed and used.
Most developers do more than fine on any decent computer (I was/am an Android developer), you don't need anything particularly special, that said, most devs have a pretty massive ego, and need a computer that matches. Few laptops have a social status of a Mac. I mean, can you imagine a developer working on an app at the local Starbucks on a low end Dell? The HORROR!! They can't be seen using such low end garbage, it would de-value their future IPO!
The last thing a power user would run is a bone stock Mac you can buy down at the local store. That isn't to say there aren't Mac power users, but they aren't as common as you think. Mac users tend to buy a Mac because it's either trendy or "it just works". A power user will take bang for the buck over trendy, and it just works is blasphemy for a power user. It just works means that you really haven't pushed the machine to the limit.
So your definition of a power user is someone who treats their computers like pets (https://blog.engineyard.com/2014/pets-vs-cattle). I personally stopped caring years ago. My computers (and servers) are replaceable and interchangeable. While I'm prone to sharpening the axe from time to time, I've got stuff to build, and that takes precedence over babying a computer.
Tired cliches. Starbucks? Really?Wow, way to miss the dripping sarcasm.
Macs are ordinary machines. Nothing special and certainly no social status attached. They are so common in developer circles that you'd be running something else if you wanted to stand out. No, people use Macs because they like to use them. Same reason why people use Windows, and Linux. I don't know a single person who thinks that their computer brings them social standing. If you want social advancement in developer circles, you write, and share code. Your computer is irrelevant.
The last thing a power user would run is a bone stock Mac you can buy Got it. Power users spend their time pushing their machines to the limit. Sounds pretty ridiculous and pointless to me.
Seems like you get good value out of their machines these days (at least among other premium price laptops). $1299 for the current 13" Retina Macbook Pro is an amazing value in my book. It's specced well enough that just about anyone (including power users) gets a great machine that can handle just about anything you throw at it.
Seems like you get good value out of their machines these days (at least among other premium price laptops). $1299 for the current 13" Retina Macbook Pro is an amazing value in my book. It's specced well enough that just about anyone (including power users) gets a great machine that can handle just about anything you throw at it.
You may want to look at what Apple has done to the Mini and the latest Macbook.
Both now have hard mounted memory, and the Mini has a hard mounted processor, in other words, neither can be upgraded. I won't be surprised if in the next gen Macbooks have a non-upgradeable processor.
It also wouldn't surprise me if the drives are soon to follow, the newer Windows tablets have already gone that way (Dell venue, Winbooks, etc...).
So your definition of a power user is someone who treats their computers like pets (https://blog.engineyard.com/2014/pets-vs-cattle). I personally stopped caring years ago. My computers (and servers) are replaceable and interchangeable. While I'm prone to sharpening the axe from time to time, I've got stuff to build, and that takes precedence over babying a computer.
That's rich.
You do realize you are on a website where people regularly build keyboards that cost hundreds of dollars.
Also, you just proved my point, see the highlighted text.
It's not a pet, it's a tool, sometimes a toy. You don't rip the legs off the family pet to see if you can make better ones.
Tired cliches. Starbucks? Really?Wow, way to miss the dripping sarcasm.
Macs are ordinary machines. Nothing special and certainly no social status attached. They are so common in developer circles that you'd be running something else if you wanted to stand out. No, people use Macs because they like to use them. Same reason why people use Windows, and Linux. I don't know a single person who thinks that their computer brings them social standing. If you want social advancement in developer circles, you write, and share code. Your computer is irrelevant.
Are you really going to deny that Macs and Iphones are not trendy? How many hipsters would be caught dead with a pc?
Macs have been counter-culture for over 2 decades.
Look, if you like Apple, that's great, I have no problem with that, a lot of people do like them for the reasons you do. I've been tempted a few times (I just couldn't deal with that stupid single button). There's no reason to get all uptight because someone says it's not a power user's machine, it's not an insult, and if your ego was bruised by that, maybe you need to re-evaluate your life.The last thing a power user would run is a bone stock Mac you can buy Got it. Power users spend their time pushing their machines to the limit. Sounds pretty ridiculous and pointless to me.
You're going to criticize people trying to get the most from their computers on a website where people spend hundreds of dollars making their keyboards look pretty?
Did you get lost and stumble into the wrong website?
I just got tired of the cliches and condescendence. Some people defend their technology choices by talking about the technology. I can respect that. Others defend their technology choices by dissing the users of the alternate technology. That's lame. I hope that you can see that now.There's nothing for me to see.
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this calls for a celebration...
let's all find the nearest Mac and smash it to bits...
cuz reasons
THERE IS NO RATIONAL REASON TO BUY A MACINTOSH. MACINTOSH COMPUTERS ARE NOTHING BUT OVERPRICED HEAPS OF GARBAGE.haha Microsoft.. I just got windows 10 it's nice.
WOULD YOU PAY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR THIS?Show Image(http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000StXS4r4iwA4/s/650/650/Trash-garbage-environment-AR620517-249.jpg)
NOBODY IN THEIR RIGHT MIND EVER WOULD. SO WHY WOULD YOU BUY A MAC? TRASH IS JUST SIMPLY TRASH. CHARGING RIDICULOUS PRICES DOESN'T MAKE IT NOT TRASH. THIS IS WHY "CRAPPLE" IS DOOMED FOR FAILURE.
That said, I'll hold on to my Mac mini that I have until it explodes. I can upgrade RAM and HDD. I feel like Apple has blessed me for that right.
Which Mac Mini model do you have? I'm thinking of getting an older one to use as a beater Mac, but I'm curious which generation you have that you enjoy.
That said, I'll hold on to my Mac mini that I have until it explodes. I can upgrade RAM and HDD. I feel like Apple has blessed me for that right.
Which Mac Mini model do you have? I'm thinking of getting an older one to use as a beater Mac, but I'm curious which generation you have that you enjoy.
Whoa. I don't think I answered this. I have a 2012 Mac mini quad-core i7. Bought it for a song.