I gave up on my 3rd diamondback...not worth sending it back even if return shipping is free lol
I really don't see anything that Razer mice do that Steelseries or Logitech don't do just as well.
I'd rather just pay extra for something that I know is going to serve me well.
How low is too low?
When I said Logitech, I was talking about stuff in the same price range as Razer mice... The MX518 does about 1,600 DPI and is pretty cheap relative to how good a mouse it is.
Which is pretty much the same price as an MX518. At least where I shop it is.
I tend to get what's cheap, and what I can at the time, so perhaps I don't have the best idea of what I'm talking about here.
Not always a bad option.
I've had quite a few mice and mostly cost does not equal performance.
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Saying that optical is better than laser is lazy misinformation. Current gen laser sensors are just as good and superior than optical, especially at higher ips.
I don't remember saying this :D?
The Salmosa was a better buy considering I had two MX518s that would not stop their electronic banshee howl of death. Every time I've bought logitech something has gone horribly wrong with it.
The MX518 is a generic looking mouse? You must live in a place with some pretty interesting hardware...
The 'moon crater' finish is a bit **** alright, but we're more function over form around here, right?
People generally tend care just as much over the shape of the mouse than just the performance. The same can't be quite said for a keyboard. And I'd think the reasons are plenty obvious.
The 'moon crater' finish is a bit **** alright, but we're more function over form around here, right?
you are right Tim.
on Nov 8th Woot.com had the Razer Salmosa for $13.27 USD a 24 hour sale only. what a deal. the only problem with the Razer Salmosa is the microswitches they are low quality and tend to squeak or when you depress once they double click however some people managed to fix this by applying some WD 40 to the microswitches.
The irony of it all. You're SUPPOSED to use black cherries. You're SUPPOSED to pump up the mouse sensitivity. You're SUPPOSED to have the highest DPI ever known to mankind.
Most of the games I play it takes me around 45cm to do a 360 degree turn and in older games it causes problems if you use a dpi higher than 400 so it can be an advantage to play with a lower dpi.
The irony of it all. You're SUPPOSED to use black cherries. You're SUPPOSED to pump up the mouse sensitivity. You're SUPPOSED to have the highest DPI ever known to mankind.
Have you ever used an MX518? It's is a perfectly usable and comfortable mouse. And I would consider ergonomic design an aspect of function.
But it's not too difficult to design a comfortable mouse for 90% of the population... Of course, manufacturers still screw it up.
I would say the layout of a keyboard would be pretty important to the user in the same way the shape of a mouse will be important.
I have used one and I don't like it. I prefer the shape of the MX518's.
My brain just exploded.
I think the thing that bothered me most about the mx518 (besides the horrible inhuman electronic noise it made at barely audible frequencies) was that the weight on it seemed really poorly distributed. It gave a little to much resistance to the point where it felt like it didn't want to move and I was forcing it against it's will. Mice don't have wills, you say? Every now and then, you could make out words in that howling noise.
My teenage son pwns you all in TF2/LFD with his MX518. What cracks me up is he always top of the scoreboard using a Unicomp Buckling Spring and a MX518 set at LOW SENSITIVITY.
Drives me nuts.
The irony of it all. You're SUPPOSED to use black cherries. You're SUPPOSED to pump up the mouse sensitivity. You're SUPPOSED to have the highest DPI ever known to mankind.
By any chance were you using the new MX518? The new one has G-feet the large sized feet found on the G5.
it is recommended not to install the Setpoint driversSome fascinating info there.
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here is a bonus graph on the SteelSeries Experience I-2 which is a frosted translucent glass surface.
Ouch! Guess who is using a G9 on an Icemat right now. :lol:
Some fascinating info there.
If you don't install Setpoint, how do you stop Windows from forcing acceleration on (even when it says it's off)? I tried some registry settings, but they don't seem to hold. I assume gamers hate acceleration as much as I do.
Ouch! Guess who is using a G9 on an Icemat right now. :lol:
The new G9x is a major improvement with it's upgraded sensor (the Avago ADNS-9500) and outperforms just about everything else, based on other graphs from that site.
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With SteelSeries ExactSens you can rely on true hardware based sensitivity settings, freeing yourself from any and all software interpolation
if I remember correctly Logitech had some launch issues.
Is the Orochi bluetooth only? I love the size of it.
the Mamba is not bluetooth. Orochi is. the Orochi still suffers from jitter and z-axis tracking but doesn't have any pattern recognition problems. I think it's a better mouse.
I think the SteelSeries Xai is the mouse to beat.
the sensor tracks at a impressive 6 meters a second by 100,000 counts per second. the Xai is a big improvement over the Ikari.
Then what is the 'feature set' you are talking about....
it has a scrollable menu in which lets you edit almost every single driver feature except creating macros and profiles on the fly. you can edit jitter, prediction values, edit cpi values in increments of 1 for both x and y axis, edit polling rate values in increments of 1 and a new auto-adjusting lift feature similar to the Roccat Kone.
Interesting too, why one would want to be able to configure correction values. I would expect those to be built in and already programmed to the most optimal settings by some engineer. Start messing with that stuff too much and people will be confusing themslves as to whether it's just the mouse sensor not liking the mouse surface they're on or changing up the settings too much.
steelseries calls correction "Freemove" I have it in my Ikari it basically makes drawing straight lines easier in programs like photoshop. I never had much use for it but it's a good piece of mind I suppose.
SteelSeries FreeMove offers users the option to choose the degree of anglesnapping or prediction, when this feature should kick in and correct your movement. You are able to adjust how much control should be left up to the mouse and how much control should be left up to yourself - in other words how precise should the mouse be reproducing your movement. This is especially desirable for user adjusting to the high precision in the SteelSeries Xai, especially if they are switching mouse from a mouse that wasn’t optimized for gaming.
You will find SteelSeries FreeMove options in the software of our Xai and Ikari Laser mice.
SteelSeries ExactAim offers total control over the amount of jitter correction and prediction calculations that are applied to the raw movement data the sensor reads from the surface. This is especially desirable when the mouse is used on a surface/mouse pad that hasn’t been optimized for high definition gaming.
I don't understand how someone can get confused for all the features. It shouldn't be set in stone because different monitors, resolutions, and aspect ratios can affect sensitivity. If the person has so much trouble then they should find out the feature. It's an incentive to learn more about improving their mouse.
I mean if someone buys a mouse with this many features and don't know anything about it. I think either that person is in the wrong or they should take the time to learn the features.
That's pretty much mouse prediction/correction or as logitech calls it angle snapping.
The engine corrects your distortions(stair case effect if you use a pencil and draw in paint) by making it a straight lines, more often. Humans don't generally make very straight lines so the engine assists and well it might be fine for some uses but gaming it tends to be a bit problematic for some.
I've read a number of low-sens users like it so they can turn without changing their point of aim due to small movements. But many don't like it due to the correction affecting aim.
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No correction left and correction right. Notice the straight lines more often. In essence your aim is under your control more so.
I gave up on my 3rd diamondback...not worth sending it back even if return shipping is free lolI swear I must have gotten lucky, either that or their quality has degraded over the years. I got my Diamondback when it was their newest offering (circa 2005 iirc?) and it's still going strong. Several friends who bought them along with me still have them. One has failed because the man is a violent abuser of mice regardless of the brand and another started having some vertical tracking issues (when moving PRECISELY vertical, lacking any horizontal movement) in the last year, but mine and another fellow's are doing just fine and then some.
I swear I must have gotten lucky, either that or their quality has degraded over the years. I got my Diamondback when it was their newest offering (circa 2005 iirc?)