Post by: obra on Tue, 09 June 2015, 01:57:23
I'm thrilled to
http://keyboard.io/kickstarter (http://keyboard.io/kickstarter)
We're spending June and July driving about 9000 miles and hosting meetups in 23 cities across North America. We'll have prototype Model 01 keyboards to play with, as well as lots and lots of stickers. We've started to reach out to hackerspaces and companies along our route who might be able to host us and should have locations to announce by next Monday. The plan for each stop is to let folks check out the Model 01, maybe give a talk about how to build your own keyboard or your own keyboard startup, and hang out!
Essentially, we're bringing a little bit of KeyCon to cities all across the US and Canada. We'll be making the meetup signup URLs public when we launch the campaign next week, but for now, our mailing list and GH are getting first crack at RSVPs.
| Boston, Massachusetts | Tue, 16 Jun 2015 | https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-cambridge-ma-17313110981 |
| New York, New York | Wed, 17 Jun 2015 | https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-new-york-ny-17315220290 |
| Philadelphia, Pennsylvania | Thu, 18 Jun 2015 | https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-philadelphia-17315234332 |
| Washington, District of Columbia | Thu, 18 Jun 2015 | https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-beltway-insider-edition-17315309557 |
| Durham, North Carolina | Fri, 19 Jun 2015 | https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-durham-17315337641 |
| Louisville, Kentucky | Sat, 20 Jun 2015 | https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-louisville-17315360710 |
| Akron, Ohio | Sun, 21 Jun 2015 | https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-akron-17315507148 |
| Toronto, Ontario (at Matias) | Mon, 22 Jun 2015 | https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-toronto-17315523196 |
| Ann Arbor, Michigan | Tue, 23 Jun 2015 | https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-ann-arbor-17315539244 |
| Chicago, Illinois | Wed, 24 Jun 2015 | https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-chicago-17315588391 |
| Saint Louis, Missouri | Thu, 25 Jun 2015 | https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-saint-louis-17315976552 |
| Dallas, Texas | Sat, 27 Jun 2015 | https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-dallas-17315986582 |
| Austin, Texas | Sun, 28 Jun 2015 | https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-austin-17316021687 |
| Denver, Colorado | Tue, 30 Jun 2015 | https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-denver-17316191194 |
| Albuquerque, New Mexico | Wed, 1 Jul 2015 | https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-albuquerque-17316204233 |
| Phoenix, Arizona | Thu, 2 Jul 2015 | https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-phoenix-17316214263 |
| Las Vegas, Nevada | Fri, 3 Jul 2015 | https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-las-vegas-17316266419 |
| Los Angeles, California | Sun, 5 Jul 2015 | https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-los-angeles-17316280461 |
| Eugene, Oregon | Wed, 8 Jul 2015 | https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-eugene-oregon-17316303530 |
| Seattle, Washington | Thu, 9 Jul 2015 | https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-seattle-17316308545 |
| Vancouver, British Columbia | Fri, 10 Jul 2015 | https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-vancouver-bc-17316313560 |
| Portland, Oregon | Sat, 11 Jul 2015 | https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-portland-or-17316321584 |
| San Francisco, California | Mon, 13 Jul 2015 | https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-san-francisco-17316336629 (https://www.eventbrite.com/e/keyboardio-san-francisco-17316336629) |
Post by: exitfire401 on Tue, 09 June 2015, 01:59:25
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 09 June 2015, 05:19:56
Post by: Nai_Calus on Tue, 09 June 2015, 05:23:04
Time to see if I can move those boards I'm not using.
Post by: LXXXIX on Tue, 09 June 2015, 08:27:02
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 09 June 2015, 08:31:42
Post by: baldgye on Tue, 09 June 2015, 08:36:47
**** Florida right?
Always
Post by: obra on Tue, 09 June 2015, 12:31:06
**** Florida right?
If we could have made it work, we would have been there. :/
As it is, we're driving nearly 9000 miles in 3 and a half weeks.
We went from responses to our mailing list survey, Google Analytics and geocoding the 6500 people on the mailing list.
Post by: Sc0tTy on Tue, 09 June 2015, 12:45:19
Post by: naz on Tue, 09 June 2015, 15:26:24
- the tenting mechanism (so far is a real mistery)
- full split mode (if there is one)
- a video showing someone typing (can you rest your hands on the wood?? does the palm button get in the way??)
- the "any" button in action!
- and most important, can i just buy one rigth now??? (screw the kickstarter!, give an expensive hand made model ;D)
Regards!
Post by: Tiramisuu on Tue, 09 June 2015, 15:36:40
This should be an interesting board. It's certainly pretty.
Post by: obra on Tue, 09 June 2015, 15:39:45
this means that we are finally see more of the model 01??? What i like to see is:
- the tenting mechanism (so far is a real mistery)
- full split mode (if there is one)
- a video showing someone typing (can you rest your hands on the wood?? does the palm button get in the way??)
- the "any" button in action!
- and most important, can i just buy one rigth now??? (screw the kickstarter!, give an expensive hand made model ;D)
Regards!
Photo shoot is tomorrow :)
Tenting: You'll see what we have today. We're redesigning for production. (Going back to what we did for an earlier prototype. Not happy with it yet.)
Full split mode: https://twitter.com/keyboardio/status/579067010757177345 (https://twitter.com/keyboardio/status/579067010757177345) (More pix coming.)
Video showing someone typing: We'll have stills for the campaign, but 'somebody typing' videos creep me out a lot. I'm sure someone will shoot one at a meetup.
Any key: Right now, it's not mapped. We're waiting for you to map it to something :)
Buy one now: You missed your chance. We asked folks on the mailing list to tell us if they wanted (very) expensive hand-made units six months ago. There just aren't enough to go around. :/
Post by: obra on Tue, 09 June 2015, 15:40:32
I'm shocked that Winnipeg isn't on the tour ;)
This should be an interesting board. It's certainly pretty.
The friend in Winnipeg we've been meaning to visit is going to be in LA for the summer :/
Post by: pnutster on Tue, 09 June 2015, 21:14:01
Been waiting for the kickstarter project and here it is.
But what is most amazing, the tour! Thinking, argghhh bummer, US coast to coast to, no chance they'll visit Canada and if so, gonna be somewhere far away that'll need a 4 hour flight. But no!!!!!! at Matias in Newmarket Ontario. 5 min. away! Can't believe it.
Told my wife today we'lll be going to our first keyboard show/presentation June 22nd :) Hope to see you guys soon and can't wait to try it out!
Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 09 June 2015, 21:23:22
Post by: bcredbottle on Tue, 09 June 2015, 23:37:30
**** Florida right?
If we could have made it work, we would have been there. :/
As it is, we're driving nearly 9000 miles in 3 and a half weeks.
We went from responses to our mailing list survey, Google Analytics and geocoding the 6500 people on the mailing list.
Google Anal-tics my ass. People have been persecuting us Floridians ever since the 2000 election.
Post by: Air tree on Wed, 10 June 2015, 00:44:43
It sounds pretty interesting.
Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 10 June 2015, 06:20:54
**** Florida right?
If we could have made it work, we would have been there. :/
As it is, we're driving nearly 9000 miles in 3 and a half weeks.
We went from responses to our mailing list survey, Google Analytics and geocoding the 6500 people on the mailing list.
Google Anal-tics my ass. People have been persecuting us Floridians ever since the 2000 election.
Truth.
Post by: bcredbottle on Thu, 11 June 2015, 15:04:44
Post by: obra on Thu, 11 June 2015, 17:30:39
Is there any plan to offer a different case? The board looks amazing but I think a lot of people are not huge fans of the butterfly shape...
We'll be making the mountings specs public, so folks can craft aftermarket cases they love.
As a bit of background, it actually came out of needing a curved guard around the top keys and wanting to provide generous palmrests that don't bite into your hand. The butterfly design was a happy accident. Most folks we've talked to love it, but of course, no one keyboard is perfect for everyone.
I'd love to know more about what you don't like about the design and what you'd design to replace it if you had a free hand.
Best,
Jesse
Post by: bcredbottle on Fri, 12 June 2015, 09:02:45
Is there any plan to offer a different case? The board looks amazing but I think a lot of people are not huge fans of the butterfly shape...
We'll be making the mountings specs public, so folks can craft aftermarket cases they love.
As a bit of background, it actually came out of needing a curved guard around the top keys and wanting to provide generous palmrests that don't bite into your hand. The butterfly design was a happy accident. Most folks we've talked to love it, but of course, no one keyboard is perfect for everyone.
I'd love to know more about what you don't like about the design and what you'd design to replace it if you had a free hand.
Best,
Jesse
The problem is it looks like a butterfly.
The original prototype struck a perfect balance between wood and metal so that it looked looked more like a mechanical object
(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/3h7mVu4ch6o/hqdefault.jpg)
Another example of mixed wood and metal
(http://xahlee.info/kbd/i3/ergodox_keyboard_wooden_wristpad_by_almightyglod-s.jpg)
Currently, there are no hard angles to complement the soft curves, so it looks like a really expensive salad bowl from Whole Foods.
Post by: Nai_Calus on Fri, 12 June 2015, 13:42:45
I want to get one and like... Get it painted like one of those blue iridescent butterflies. That'd be awesome.
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 15 June 2015, 10:59:30
Any ideas?
Post by: obra on Mon, 15 June 2015, 11:09:12
Post by: jakkdl on Mon, 15 June 2015, 11:21:52
Post by: obra on Mon, 15 June 2015, 11:28:30
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 15 June 2015, 11:38:41
Pledged for my Model 01, though. It's happening!
Post by: naz on Mon, 15 June 2015, 11:42:43
are there other proyects that could be added if the campaign exceeds expectation??? maybe custom keycaps or alternative layouts (colemak, dvorak, spanish, german, uk, etc)???
Regards!
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Mon, 15 June 2015, 11:45:45
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 15 June 2015, 12:16:47
Still sorting out meetup venues :/ What city?Ny, ny
Post by: Binge on Mon, 15 June 2015, 12:24:28
Going to try and make it to the Philly meet!
Entirely worth it. Great keyboard to see in person.
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 15 June 2015, 12:30:07
Post by: jwaz on Mon, 15 June 2015, 12:35:26
Just made the goal!
Gratz, obra! I'm in for the Model 01 as well.
Post by: obra on Mon, 15 June 2015, 14:42:24
Post by: jakkdl on Mon, 15 June 2015, 23:43:13
Truth be told, the nice victim being filmed in the video had never before laid hands on a Model 01, but it was the last minute and we needed typing footage.
That explains it! Getting some decent typing footage in an update would be cool.
Post by: Axollott on Tue, 16 June 2015, 01:34:33
Post by: jacobolus on Tue, 16 June 2015, 01:35:07
Getting some decent typing footage in an update would be cool.++
I’d love to see some footage of someone using half a keyboardio as a game controller, some footage of someone using one with photoshop, some footage of someone using one with vim or emacs, etc.
Ideally it would be possible to show both a top-view video of the hands moving on keyboard/mouse and a simultaneous shot of what’s happening on screen.
Probably pretty tough to find an expert who has customized one of these to be maximally efficient yet though.
Post by: obra on Tue, 16 June 2015, 13:29:01
Getting some decent typing footage in an update would be cool.++
I�d love to see some footage of someone using half a keyboardio as a game controller, some footage of someone using one with photoshop, some footage of someone using one with vim or emacs, etc.
Ideally it would be possible to show both a top-view video of the hands moving on keyboard/mouse and a simultaneous shot of what�s happening on screen.
Probably pretty tough to find an expert who has customized one of these to be maximally efficient yet though.
That'd be pretty cool. Can you point me at examples of this being done for another keyboard?
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 June 2015, 14:35:38
Post by: Nai_Calus on Tue, 16 June 2015, 15:21:02
Getting some decent typing footage in an update would be cool.++
I�d love to see some footage of someone using half a keyboardio as a game controller, some footage of someone using one with photoshop, some footage of someone using one with vim or emacs, etc.
Ideally it would be possible to show both a top-view video of the hands moving on keyboard/mouse and a simultaneous shot of what�s happening on screen.
Probably pretty tough to find an expert who has customized one of these to be maximally efficient yet though.
That'd be pretty cool. Can you point me at examples of this being done for another keyboard?
It's not generally doable without remapping. I've actually recently tried to use half a split(but otherwise ANSI) keyboard for gaming to give feedback on doing just that for a company and found most control schemes ended up using at least *something* from the other side of the board.
But remapping does make that somewhat trivial as long as enough keys are present, whether in game(assuming normal scancodes are being sent) or out of game. Some games you're not going to get everything there's a key for on one side(The Neverwinter MMO, which I play, for example, uses almost every single alpha key to bring up *something*, and most of the numbers besides.)
Split keyboards for gaming are nice though. Bring the mouse in closer, get the half you're using at just the right angle and tilt without stabbing yourself in the gut with your keyboard.
Post by: obra on Tue, 16 June 2015, 15:44:13
Getting some decent typing footage in an update would be cool.++
I�d love to see some footage of someone using half a keyboardio as a game controller, some footage of someone using one with photoshop, some footage of someone using one with vim or emacs, etc.
Ideally it would be possible to show both a top-view video of the hands moving on keyboard/mouse and a simultaneous shot of what�s happening on screen.
Probably pretty tough to find an expert who has customized one of these to be maximally efficient yet though.
That'd be pretty cool. Can you point me at examples of this being done for another keyboard?
It's not generally doable without remapping. ...
Oh, no, I just meant the video recording thing
Post by: kurplop on Tue, 16 June 2015, 16:12:40
Post by: jacobolus on Tue, 16 June 2015, 16:14:04
That'd be pretty cool. Can you point me at examples of this being done for another keyboard?Nothing I can think of off-hand.
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 16 June 2015, 16:21:38
This campaign will raise $1M+
Post by: obra on Tue, 16 June 2015, 16:31:46
Congratulations on the reaching your fundraising goal. I'm a bit surprised by the low cost for getting a keyboard with all of the features you're building into it. Will that be the retail price as well?
We're not committing to a retail/street price until we have units manufactured. At this price, we're confident that we can make the keyboards as nicely as they deserve to be made. The 120k goal is what we needed to hit for that to be true. It is not, of course, the goal we'd need to hit to be able to pay ourselves even minimum wage. We've costed out the production at various volumes and have a sense of where the sweet spots are. Making our own keys is incredibly expensive in low volumes because we need to make injection molds. But at high volumes, the per-unit cost is so low that it's much, much less expensive than buying someone else's caps.
Post by: obra on Tue, 16 June 2015, 16:33:33
I'm predicting it right now...
This campaign will raise $1M+
That would make us very happy. Of course, we're happy just making people good keyboards.
Making 3000 keyboards is a lot easier than making 500 of em, too.
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 16 June 2015, 20:56:49
Oh, no, I just meant the video recording thing
I've shot videos with my Samsung S5 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vns73Wc1AZU) and my Olympus EPL3 camera (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIOy_0veDMg). I could do a typing video on Saturday if you don't mind obra.
Post by: Xowie on Tue, 16 June 2015, 21:07:08
I'd try to make the one in Ann Arbor, but unfortunately, I start my new job next week and probably won't be able to get it off. Safe travels!DO IT (although I think I am also busy that day)
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 16 June 2015, 21:40:34
That sucks.
I'll just follow the website and hopefully something comes through at the last minute.
Post by: nomaded on Tue, 16 June 2015, 23:26:34
One thing I did suggest to Jesse was to put a set (three) of tripod-compat threaded holes on the bottom on each half. This way, those holes could be used with the mating plate with captured screws to form a single unit. The keyboard could include a flat plate and tented plate, like it does right now. Additionally, it would be nice if they could also include a couple "stands" that would screw into those threaded holes for "split and tented". And those same threaded holes would allow small tripods to be used for more adjustability, much like the Matias Ergo Pro.
I have some small qualms with the logical layout/placement of some of the keys, but all that can be changed with the firmware, so I'm not super concerned about it. I think getting the physical layout correct is more important, and Jesse is very close, in my opinion.
Post by: XMIT on Wed, 17 June 2015, 21:10:16
Post by: Blaise170 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 22:44:16
Post by: Input Nirvana on Wed, 17 June 2015, 23:11:13
I played with the prototype at one of the SF meetups, that was a highpoint.
Outstanding methodology with the criss-crossing of 'merica, and promoting the GH way. I'm jelly.
Good luck with the trip and take/post pics in a dedicated thread!
Post by: berserkfan on Fri, 19 June 2015, 11:26:10
Post by: Blaise170 on Fri, 19 June 2015, 12:26:37
these keycaps are regrettably impossible for most of us to swap out. Something that discourages every geek buyer.
Amazingly, there are six people who bought a $1000 mahogany board and 883 non-mahogany boards that were sold. :eek:
Post by: jwaz on Fri, 19 June 2015, 13:32:30
these keycaps are regrettably impossible for most of us to swap out. Something that discourages every geek buyer.
I'm not really sure why you would want to swap them out... every cap on that board is custom sculpted, that's one of it's coolest features!
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 19 June 2015, 17:54:52
Post by: kurplop on Fri, 19 June 2015, 18:14:49
these keycaps are regrettably impossible for most of us to swap out. Something that discourages every geek buyer.
I'm not really sure why you would want to swap them out... every cap on that board is custom sculpted, that's one of it's coolest features!
Will he have blank sets available for those who will want to reconfigure their layouts?
Post by: Tiramisuu on Fri, 19 June 2015, 18:51:26
Post by: Blaise170 on Fri, 19 June 2015, 20:06:15
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 19 June 2015, 22:40:16
I'll be there. I've got a Model F, Das Pro S, Rapoo V500, AEK II, M0116, Fujitsu, and Focus FK-2001. Not sure which I'm going to bring though.
I'm curious about that Rapoo board. Anything of mine you'd like me to bring?
Post by: Blaise170 on Fri, 19 June 2015, 23:35:33
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 19 June 2015, 23:37:44
Post by: exitfire401 on Fri, 19 June 2015, 23:41:56
Post by: XMIT on Sat, 20 June 2015, 15:59:10
Post by: CPTBadAss on Sat, 20 June 2015, 16:25:44
Out here in Louisville playing keyboards again!
Post by: Blaise170 on Sat, 20 June 2015, 17:50:33
(http://i.imgur.com/jo3Apqoh.jpg)
Post by: billnye on Sat, 20 June 2015, 18:32:24
Post by: obra on Tue, 23 June 2015, 00:09:00
these keycaps are regrettably impossible for most of us to swap out. Something that discourages every geek buyer.
I'm not really sure why you would want to swap them out... every cap on that board is custom sculpted, that's one of it's coolest features!
Will he have blank sets available for those who will want to reconfigure their layouts?
Yes. We're working on custom laser-engraved sets, too.
We're not sure about pricing yet, but it should, hopefully, be surprisingly attractive.
Post by: Ghibli on Tue, 23 June 2015, 01:12:35
Post by: rumpl on Wed, 24 June 2015, 11:32:21
See:
(http://i.imgur.com/UzBEPNd.png)
Those 2 extra keys on the thumb "row" are easily reached* and it would be so cool to have an extra layer key, or any kind of key, on that row.
* If we take a regular keyboard for instance, a touch typist can still comfortably reach the left Alt key using his left thumb. The left Alt key, compared to the modified Model 01 image above, is even farther away from the thumb without leaving the home row. Similarly, the Ergodox has only four comfortable thumb keys, you can see that they're almost as far away from the thumb as the alt key of a regular keyboard:
(http://i.imgur.com/zk5ozRV.png)
My question is, what was your reasoning against putting that extra key? There's plenty of space, looks like it would perfectly fit in there...
I hope it wasn't because of aesthetics or that the number of keys had to be a exponentiation with base 2.
Post by: Binge on Wed, 24 June 2015, 11:35:03
Obra, I was wondering why you'd only put 4 thumb keys on the keyboard and not 5?
See:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/UzBEPNd.png)
Those 2 extra keys on the thumb "row" are easily reached* and it would be so cool to have an extra layer key, or any kind of key, on that row.
* If we take a regular keyboard for instance, a touch typist can still comfortably reach the left Alt key using his left thumb. The left Alt key, compared to the modified Model 01 image above, is even farther away from the thumb. Similarly, the Ergodox has only four comfortable thumb keys, you can see that they're almost as far away from the thumb as the alt key of a regular keyboard:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zk5ozRV.png)
My question is, what was your reasoning against putting that extra key? There's plenty of space, looks like it would perfectly fit in there...
I hope it wasn't because of aesthetics or that the number of keys had to be a exponentiation with base 2.
I don't think space is the issue... I think it's just the ergonomics and position of the keys.
Post by: rumpl on Wed, 24 June 2015, 11:44:22
Obra, I was wondering why you'd only put 4 thumb keys on the keyboard and not 5?
See:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/UzBEPNd.png)
Those 2 extra keys on the thumb "row" are easily reached* and it would be so cool to have an extra layer key, or any kind of key, on that row.
* If we take a regular keyboard for instance, a touch typist can still comfortably reach the left Alt key using his left thumb. The left Alt key, compared to the modified Model 01 image above, is even farther away from the thumb. Similarly, the Ergodox has only four comfortable thumb keys, you can see that they're almost as far away from the thumb as the alt key of a regular keyboard:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zk5ozRV.png)
My question is, what was your reasoning against putting that extra key? There's plenty of space, looks like it would perfectly fit in there...
I hope it wasn't because of aesthetics or that the number of keys had to be a exponentiation with base 2.
I don't think space is the issue... I think it's just the ergonomics and position of the keys.
That's what I've been trying to say. That extra key would still be comfortable.
I made a mistake there. Comfortability does not necessarily equal Ergonomy.
Regarding the keyboardio, I do not think there'd be any problem though.
To be completely honest, I have not tried out the Model 01 personally, nor have I ever used an Ergodox (I have been saving money for it actually, until the Model 01 has been announced, which I plan on getting now instead of the Ergodox).
However, I did print out a 1:1 scale on paper of the Ergodox and played around with it (a lot). Those 4 thumb keys (see the previous Ergodox image) are fairly reachable.
That fifth key on the Model 01 would still be far better off than those of the Ergodox, in terms of comfortable position. That is what I believe.
Post by: obra on Wed, 24 June 2015, 14:15:28
There's also the side issue that it's a lot easier to distinguish 4 keys by feel than 5.
Post by: rumpl on Thu, 25 June 2015, 16:43:01
We had a 5th key on a number of the prototypes. We actually had six on a few. We couldn't get them positioned comfortably for most users. Even 4 is too much of a stretch for some folks with 19mm spacing. (We'll be tightening up the arc some for production.)
There's also the side issue that it's a lot easier to distinguish 4 keys by feel than 5.
Good. I trust you to do the right thing.
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 26 June 2015, 09:08:19
Look what I stumbled upon. Turns out there's no mention of mechanical switches in the video.
Post by: Blaise170 on Thu, 02 July 2015, 11:53:31
Post by: obra on Sat, 04 July 2015, 12:57:30
Those comments make me cringe. :(
Never read the comments.
Post by: jacobolus on Tue, 07 July 2015, 21:52:09
Then hopefully production goes smoothly, people get their keyboards faster than expected and rave reviews start coming in, and you can make some profit on v1.1, with the keycap tooling and much of the other design/development work all paid for. :-)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 17 July 2015, 17:45:29
Post by: vivalarevolución on Fri, 17 July 2015, 17:54:23
Post by: obra on Fri, 17 July 2015, 17:55:05
Post by: vivalarevolución on Fri, 17 July 2015, 19:17:59
Those comments make me cringe. :(
Never read the comments.
Just read the sales numbers.
Post by: Nai_Calus on Sat, 18 July 2015, 10:12:05