Post by: KappaKapps on Mon, 15 June 2015, 17:28:26
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NOT an official order form, just to gauge interest:
Google form IC sign up (https://docs.google.com/a/kappakapps.com/forms/d/1yOxNLaS42-kdzPalqPDrlwitmVauhoUE999lGSXMsTo/viewform)
Shameless reddit thread plug (http://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/39z2s1/ic_gmk_cyrillic_alphas_and_red_mods/)
Hello GeekHack! The team at KappaKapps (http://www.kappakapps.com/) wants to gauge interest in a keyset to be run in combination with Photekq's Classic Beige (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68141), but you do not have to be in that group buy to join in on this one.
UPDATE
We will go ahead with Cyrillic Alphas and the WASD Pack in one week, to coordinate with Classic Beige.
These are the final mockups:
(http://i.imgur.com/obMmiFd.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/GpSBzvE.png)
If there are any more questions regarding Cyrillic, feel free to post in the thread.
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The set will consist of two parts:
Cyrillic Alphas
[attachimg=3]
This set can be used in conjunction with the Classic Beige set to create an original Cherry Cyrillic layout. The colors are accurate to original Cyrillic keyboards.
The black alphas are doubleshot injection molded by GMK and then the red Cyrillic sub legends are pad printed and specially coated over.
Here's what the Cyrillic set looks like, image credit to litster: The picture is just image sample actual sets may look slightly different, however the legend is accurate
(http://i.imgur.com/moyM4.jpg)
Red Modifiers [TKL Kit]
[attachimg=2]
This set is desgined to be used with Cyrillic alphas if you don't want to buy Classic Beige and with existing alphas. The kit will cover all keys needed for most TKL layouts.
The entire keyset is double shot injection molded by GMK using original Cherry molds.
Here is the color of the keys: (The sample color is V1)
This is what the GMK red color looks like: (also credits to litster) The picture is just image sample actual sets may look slightly different, however the legend is accurate
(http://i.imgur.com/I6se6.jpg)
Here is a full list of keys:
Another component of this Interest Check is to have extra keys included in this set. GMK will also add a bonus key to each of these keysets for free. Let us know what you want to see! I have a White on Red "Code" key in mind for the Red Modifiers, but I would like to hear what people want for Cyrillic Alphas.
Keycap Trays
[attachimg=1]
In addition, GMK has some nice keycap trays. This picture is the current tray. The new retail trays will be available soon and have a similar look to the one on the picture.
The team at KappaKapps (http://www.kappakapps.com/) is excited to do our next GMK keyset. If you don't know what we do, we're an up and coming artisan keycap and keyset vendor. The sets will be priced with minimal overhead for any unexpected occurrences. Our goal is to help the keyboard community and those in need, so all of our profits go to charity. Our June profits will go to Extra Life. If you want to support our cause, you can check out our keycap UnDead Clackin (http://www.kappakapps.com/product_plasticundead.html). We have more artisan keycaps in the works in various materials. We also have another color version of the red mods (Electric BlueGaloo) available on our site for preorder in case you missed out on the GB! (http://www.kappakapps.com/product_TKLmod.html)
The way we plan to run this group buy is to collect orders beforehand. If we are close to the MOQ (250 orders) we will pay for the sets needed to tip the MOQ ourselves. Once the money is sent to GMK and they manufacture our sets, we will package and ship each set ASAP.
We're also working on some matching artisan keycaps to go with these sets, so keep your eyes peeled!
Google form IC sign up (https://docs.google.com/a/kappakapps.com/forms/d/1yOxNLaS42-kdzPalqPDrlwitmVauhoUE999lGSXMsTo/viewform)
Shameless reddit thread plug (http://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/39z2s1/ic_gmk_cyrillic_alphas_and_red_mods/)
Hello GeekHack! The team at KappaKapps (http://www.kappakapps.com/) wants to gauge interest in a keyset to be run in combination with Photekq's Classic Beige (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68141), but you do not have to be in that group buy to join in on this one.
UPDATE
We will go ahead with Cyrillic Alphas and the WASD Pack in one week, to coordinate with Classic Beige.
These are the final mockups:
(http://i.imgur.com/obMmiFd.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/GpSBzvE.png)
If there are any more questions regarding Cyrillic, feel free to post in the thread.
____________________________________________________________________
The set will consist of two parts:
Cyrillic Alphas
[attachimg=3]
This set can be used in conjunction with the Classic Beige set to create an original Cherry Cyrillic layout. The colors are accurate to original Cyrillic keyboards.
The black alphas are doubleshot injection molded by GMK and then the red Cyrillic sub legends are pad printed and specially coated over.
Here's what the Cyrillic set looks like, image credit to litster: The picture is just image sample actual sets may look slightly different, however the legend is accurate
(http://i.imgur.com/moyM4.jpg)
Red Modifiers [TKL Kit]
[attachimg=2]
This set is desgined to be used with Cyrillic alphas if you don't want to buy Classic Beige and with existing alphas. The kit will cover all keys needed for most TKL layouts.
The entire keyset is double shot injection molded by GMK using original Cherry molds.
Here is the color of the keys: (The sample color is V1)
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(http://i.imgur.com/sXAxyeY.jpg)
This is what the GMK red color looks like: (also credits to litster) The picture is just image sample actual sets may look slightly different, however the legend is accurate
(http://i.imgur.com/I6se6.jpg)
Here is a full list of keys:
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The number before the x denotes the width of the keycap relative to the height of a standard keycap. Unless otherwise noted, the height of each keycap is 1x.
Row 1 (Esc, Function, and Number Row)
1x Esc, 2x Backspace, 1x F5, 1x F6, 1x F7, 1x F8, 1x Prt Sc/SysRq, 1x Scroll Lock, 1x Pause/Break, 1x Insert, 1x Home, 1x Pg Up, 1x Tilde (~`)
Row 2 (Tab row)
1.5x Tab, 1.5x |\ with HHKB Delete layout legend, 1x Delete, 1x End, 1x Pg Dn
Row 2 and 3 (Middle Row)
1.5x ISO Layout Enter Key (Please note the height is 2x and please refer to the picture for the shape)
Row 3 (Middle Row)
1.75x Full Touch Caps Lock, 1.75x Stepped Caps Lock, 1.75x Full Touch Control, 1.75x Stepped Ctrl, 2.25x Enter
Row 4 (Bottom Two Rows)
1.25x Shift, 1.75x Shift, 2.25x Shift, 2.75x Shift, 1.5x Control, 1.5x Control, 1.25x Control, 1.25x Control, 1.5x Alt, 1.5x Alt, 1.25x Alt, 1.25x Alt, 1.25x Menu, 1.25x Windows, 1.25x Windows, 1x Windows, 1x Windows, 1x Fn, 1.25x Blank Key, 1.25x Blank Key, 1x Up Arrow, 1x Left Arrow, 1x Down Arrow, 1x Right Arrow
Row 1 (Esc, Function, and Number Row)
1x Esc, 2x Backspace, 1x F5, 1x F6, 1x F7, 1x F8, 1x Prt Sc/SysRq, 1x Scroll Lock, 1x Pause/Break, 1x Insert, 1x Home, 1x Pg Up, 1x Tilde (~`)
Row 2 (Tab row)
1.5x Tab, 1.5x |\ with HHKB Delete layout legend, 1x Delete, 1x End, 1x Pg Dn
Row 2 and 3 (Middle Row)
1.5x ISO Layout Enter Key (Please note the height is 2x and please refer to the picture for the shape)
Row 3 (Middle Row)
1.75x Full Touch Caps Lock, 1.75x Stepped Caps Lock, 1.75x Full Touch Control, 1.75x Stepped Ctrl, 2.25x Enter
Row 4 (Bottom Two Rows)
1.25x Shift, 1.75x Shift, 2.25x Shift, 2.75x Shift, 1.5x Control, 1.5x Control, 1.25x Control, 1.25x Control, 1.5x Alt, 1.5x Alt, 1.25x Alt, 1.25x Alt, 1.25x Menu, 1.25x Windows, 1.25x Windows, 1x Windows, 1x Windows, 1x Fn, 1.25x Blank Key, 1.25x Blank Key, 1x Up Arrow, 1x Left Arrow, 1x Down Arrow, 1x Right Arrow
Another component of this Interest Check is to have extra keys included in this set. GMK will also add a bonus key to each of these keysets for free. Let us know what you want to see! I have a White on Red "Code" key in mind for the Red Modifiers, but I would like to hear what people want for Cyrillic Alphas.
Keycap Trays
[attachimg=1]
In addition, GMK has some nice keycap trays. This picture is the current tray. The new retail trays will be available soon and have a similar look to the one on the picture.
The team at KappaKapps (http://www.kappakapps.com/) is excited to do our next GMK keyset. If you don't know what we do, we're an up and coming artisan keycap and keyset vendor. The sets will be priced with minimal overhead for any unexpected occurrences. Our goal is to help the keyboard community and those in need, so all of our profits go to charity. Our June profits will go to Extra Life. If you want to support our cause, you can check out our keycap UnDead Clackin (http://www.kappakapps.com/product_plasticundead.html). We have more artisan keycaps in the works in various materials. We also have another color version of the red mods (Electric BlueGaloo) available on our site for preorder in case you missed out on the GB! (http://www.kappakapps.com/product_TKLmod.html)
The way we plan to run this group buy is to collect orders beforehand. If we are close to the MOQ (250 orders) we will pay for the sets needed to tip the MOQ ourselves. Once the money is sent to GMK and they manufacture our sets, we will package and ship each set ASAP.
We're also working on some matching artisan keycaps to go with these sets, so keep your eyes peeled!
(http://i.imgur.com/AcsDvgD.jpg)
Credits: GMK Triumph Alder
(http://i.imgur.com/4R3nRHs.jpg)
We plan to have a tray GB first then we will launch the Cyrillic and Red mods GB.
Trays come with a lid and will be able to hold a 104 keyset and more.
We will price trays at $7 USD each.
Feel free to ask questions about shipping. In general: $15 for CONUS shipping. $25 for intl' shipping difference will be refunded. The more trays that are ordered, the higher the shipping cost.
GB thread will be posted tomorrow.
Post by: fknraiden on Mon, 15 June 2015, 17:33:06
Post by: luckyryan333 on Mon, 15 June 2015, 17:39:56
Post by: KnivesM on Mon, 15 June 2015, 17:42:00
Post by: wlhlm on Mon, 15 June 2015, 17:44:13
Contrary to your description, you wouldn't be able to make a full set out of the red mods and the alphas, because it misses F1-F4 and F8-F12.
Post by: Blackhawk on Mon, 15 June 2015, 17:52:27
Post by: KappaKapps on Mon, 15 June 2015, 17:56:21
Definitely down for Red mods and a bunch of trays depending on what they hold/design.We sent GMK an email to give us more specifications on what the tray is capable of holding. We will update the thread ASAP when they reply.
Interested in the Cyrillic alphas.This was based off of Photek's idea and those keys were menat to be used with his set, we can look to make changes to expand to that.
Contrary to your description, you wouldn't be able to make a full set out of the red mods and the alphas, because it misses F1-F4 and F8-F12.
Definitely interested in the cyrilic alphas. Would you guys consider adding the missing ISO alphas for maximum compatibility? I'm thinking about the "\|" row 2 and "|\" or "~#" row 3 keys.Because the original Cyrillic sets are only ANSI, we are unable to add ISO alphas without messing up the layout. We want to keep things as simple as possible to streamline ordering.
Post by: wlhlm on Mon, 15 June 2015, 18:01:15
Personally I don't care if you can cover a TKL from those two sets, I was just noting, so that people aren't mislead. If you think you can get the remaining keys in the sets, then of course that's a nice touch.Interested in the Cyrillic alphas.This was based off of Photek's idea and those keys were menat to be used with his set, we can look to make changes to expand to that.
Contrary to your description, you wouldn't be able to make a full set out of the red mods and the alphas, because it misses F1-F4 and F8-F12.
Also, 60% would be possible no matter what.
Post by: Blackhawk on Mon, 15 June 2015, 18:03:00
Definitely interested in the cyrilic alphas. Would you guys consider adding the missing ISO alphas for maximum compatibility? I'm thinking about the "\|" row 2 and "|\" or "~#" row 3 keys.Because the original Cyrillic sets are only ANSI, we are unable to add ISO alphas without messing up the layout. We want to keep things as simple as possible to streamline ordering.
Fair enough. Seeing as Photekq's Classic Beige groupbuy will include an ISO addon anyway, this is probably the best decision.
Post by: KappaKapps on Mon, 15 June 2015, 18:04:45
Personally I don't care if you can cover a TKL from those two sets, I was just noting, so that people aren't mislead. If you think you can get the remaining keys in the sets, then of course that's a nice touch.Interested in the Cyrillic alphas.This was based off of Photek's idea and those keys were menat to be used with his set, we can look to make changes to expand to that.
Contrary to your description, you wouldn't be able to make a full set out of the red mods and the alphas, because it misses F1-F4 and F8-F12.
Also, 60% would be possible no matter what.
Of course. Logistically, depending on interest in this group buy, we may do a set with or without the F1-F4 and F8-F12 keys. Depending on GMK's response, we will conduct a poll if there is a significant price increase.
Post by: joey on Mon, 15 June 2015, 18:11:58
Post by: KappaKapps on Mon, 15 June 2015, 18:18:12
Post by: FreeChemicals on Mon, 15 June 2015, 18:22:58
Post by: Blackehart on Mon, 15 June 2015, 18:24:15
Have a set of Cyrillic from originative and the pad print on my W, A, S, D keys wore off rather fast.
I'm assuming that the there isn't a way to make it more durable?
In for mods and tray though.
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Mon, 15 June 2015, 18:30:09
: /I also have this set, and havent had this issue yet, but the clear coat is rather annoying. It has a slight sticky feeling to it, and is noticeably different than the non coated caps. I doubt many people will be bothered by it, but wanted to bring it up so people are aware.
Have a set of Cyrillic from originative and the pad print on my W, A, S, D keys wore off rather fast.
I'm assuming that the there isn't a way to make it more durable?
In for mods and tray though.
Post by: KappaKapps on Mon, 15 June 2015, 18:30:48
: /
Have a set of Cyrillic from originative and the pad print on my W, A, S, D keys wore off rather fast.
I'm assuming that the there isn't a way to make it more durable?
In for mods and tray though.
GMK should have better tooling and durability. German manufacturing FTW. I know a few people that used the original cherry keycaps (that are made with a similar process) for 15+ years without the legend fading. It is possible we could ask for a special coating, but it shouldn't be a problem.
Post by: fknraiden on Mon, 15 June 2015, 18:32:45
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Have a set of Cyrillic from originative and the pad print on my W, A, S, D keys wore off rather fast.
I'm assuming that the there isn't a way to make it more durable?
In for mods and tray though.
GMK should have better tooling and durability. German manufacturing FTW. I know a few people that used the original cherry keycaps (that are made with a similar process) for 15+ years without the legend fading. It is possible we could ask for a special coating, but it shouldn't be a problem.
the set from sherry is GMK
Post by: KappaKapps on Mon, 15 June 2015, 18:35:09
: /
Have a set of Cyrillic from originative and the pad print on my W, A, S, D keys wore off rather fast.
I'm assuming that the there isn't a way to make it more durable?
In for mods and tray though.
GMK should have better tooling and durability. German manufacturing FTW. I know a few people that used the original cherry keycaps (that are made with a similar process) for 15+ years without the legend fading. It is possible we could ask for a special coating, but it shouldn't be a problem.
the set from sherry is GMK
In that case, we can ask for coating and other improvements. We will keep updating this IC thread.
Post by: Blackehart on Mon, 15 June 2015, 18:37:08
Post by: filphil on Mon, 15 June 2015, 18:46:46
Post by: KappaKapps on Mon, 15 June 2015, 19:30:13
(http://puu.sh/iqnDI/e3f84b286b.png)
"u know"
(http://i.imgur.com/SFA53TK.gif)
Post by: quochung1989 on Tue, 16 June 2015, 00:40:57
Post by: fknraiden on Tue, 16 June 2015, 00:57:00
Maybe or not. Depend on price...
you should be able to guess what it will cost based on pervious buys. cyrillic should be 60ish, and mods should be around 50 at most.
Post by: quochung1989 on Tue, 16 June 2015, 05:31:28
Hope that price. I'm in Cyrillic Alpha.Maybe or not. Depend on price...
you should be able to guess what it will cost based on pervious buys. cyrillic should be 60ish, and mods should be around 50 at most.
Post by: shower_king on Tue, 16 June 2015, 06:41:44
Post by: hj-s on Tue, 16 June 2015, 06:47:06
I'm in if cyrillic letters will not fade.
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 16 June 2015, 07:21:12
Post by: Jokrik on Tue, 16 June 2015, 07:55:04
Post by: KappaKapps on Tue, 16 June 2015, 08:40:07
Does anybody here who in for cyrillic alphas know Russian?
I'm in if cyrillic letters will not fade.
I'll ask GMK about the durability of the legend and special coating.
Maybe or not. Depend on price...
The pricing looks to be from $50-57, depending on the amount that is ordered. If we are close to the next price bracket, we(at KappaKapps) may tip the GB. The typical "Groupbuy Fee" is included in each set for streamlined invoicing. Any overhead on the sets will be donated to charity.
Post by: quochung1989 on Tue, 16 June 2015, 08:56:21
My poor wallet....Useless, bro. That is your problem. You shouldn't groan here.
This is IC. We only discuss about keyset & price....
Post by: radio_killah on Tue, 16 June 2015, 09:14:50
Does anybody here who in for cyrillic alphas know Russian?It's pad printed so yes it will fade eventually
I'm in if cyrillic letters will not fade.
Post by: Jokrik on Tue, 16 June 2015, 09:17:05
My poor wallet....Useless, bro. That is your problem. You shouldn't groan here.
This is IC. We only discuss about keyset & price....
Doesnt mean I didnt fill the IC form
Post by: DVH on Tue, 16 June 2015, 11:22:35
Post by: Fnzzy on Tue, 16 June 2015, 11:38:18
Post by: KappaKapps on Tue, 16 June 2015, 12:44:30
I'm in Cyrillic Alpha. It good for beige set !
Very much interested in the alphas! I always wanted to get a Cyrillic set but a full set was always too expensive for me so this is perfect.Be sure to fill out the interest check form. It's not an official order form, just so we can get a pricing estimate. (https://docs.google.com/a/kappakapps.com/forms/d/1yOxNLaS42-kdzPalqPDrlwitmVauhoUE999lGSXMsTo/viewform)
any chance for adding number kit into the RED mod?We'll ask GMK, but the group buy would run much more streamlined without one. If there's more demand for a number kit, I will edit the google form.
Post by: cooldiscretion on Tue, 16 June 2015, 13:01:44
Post by: KappaKapps on Tue, 16 June 2015, 13:47:40
Speaking of which, if you haven't, please fill out our google form (it's fast) so we can get accurate pricing information:
https://docs.google.com/a/kappakapps.com/forms/d/1yOxNLaS42-kdzPalqPDrlwitmVauhoUE999lGSXMsTo/viewform
I will continue updating you guys when I hear back from GMK.
Post by: admiralvorian on Tue, 16 June 2015, 14:35:04
Post by: Evo_Spec on Tue, 16 June 2015, 21:48:30
Remember, this is only an interest check, you are NOT signing up for invoicing on the google form.
Speaking of which, if you haven't, please fill out our google form (it's fast) so we can get accurate pricing information:
https://docs.google.com/a/kappakapps.com/forms/d/1yOxNLaS42-kdzPalqPDrlwitmVauhoUE999lGSXMsTo/viewform
I will continue updating you guys when I hear back from GMK.
Would you like me to fill the form even if i most likely won't have the money to buy it?
Post by: KappaKapps on Tue, 16 June 2015, 22:20:16
Does anybody here who in for cyrillic alphas know Russian?It's pad printed so yes it will fade eventually
I'm in if cyrillic letters will not fade.
I wouldn't be too worried about it fading. It SHOULD last for a decent amount of time. We will make sure GMK manufactures it with good quality. There have been previous concerns with GMK's quality, however we will ask them to make improvements.
We use the google doc to help us provide the most accurate pricing information, so if you think that there is a 50% or greater chance that you will be able to purchase it: fill it out. Otherwise, it's up to your best judgement.Remember, this is only an interest check, you are NOT signing up for invoicing on the google form.
Speaking of which, if you haven't, please fill out our google form (it's fast) so we can get accurate pricing information:
https://docs.google.com/a/kappakapps.com/forms/d/1yOxNLaS42-kdzPalqPDrlwitmVauhoUE999lGSXMsTo/viewform
I will continue updating you guys when I hear back from GMK.
Would you like me to fill the form even if i most likely won't have the money to buy it?
The staff at Kappakapps will also be including artisan caps to be given away. Each set will have a chance(>10%) at winning an artisan cap. Exact details will be released on the official GB thread. :D
If you have any questions, feel free to post and ask.
Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 17 June 2015, 02:10:02
Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 17 June 2015, 02:21:18
Totally think that the f1-f4 and f5-f8 keys are worth it - there are first time group buyers joining every day and many potentials might not buy into this because they don't have keycaps to fill the f row
+ once you added the cyrillic it informally became a full set and really should be paired with a full set of function keys
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 17 June 2015, 02:27:16
Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 17 June 2015, 02:36:38
Remember boys that this is supposed to be an addon to the GMK classic beige or OG cherry sets.
I'm just wondering if there are gonna be people out there that won't be able to afford both and would opt for cyrillic/red mods only
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 17 June 2015, 03:40:34
This is only a modpack and separate alpha packRemember boys that this is supposed to be an addon to the GMK classic beige or OG cherry sets.
I'm just wondering if there are gonna be people out there that won't be able to afford both and would opt for cyrillic/red mods only
Post by: tmk1207 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 05:46:22
Post by: Acerk on Wed, 17 June 2015, 06:34:57
Post by: KappaKapps on Wed, 17 June 2015, 08:40:35
Remember boys that this is supposed to be an addon to the GMK classic beige or OG cherry sets.
Just to clarify, we probably will have the F keys to include more people into the group buy. Also, this group buy is not exclusive to only the people in the GMK classic beige group buy. All are welcome to join.
Are you willing to mark a package $20?
Could you please clarify what you mean by mark?
Post by: Blackhawk on Wed, 17 June 2015, 09:05:39
Are you willing to mark a package $20?
Could you please clarify what you mean by mark?
I think he is talking about marking the package with a value of $20 for customs. At least in European countries, you have to pay VAT on imported goods above a certain value. So by marking it with a lower value, there is a chance you might not have to pay VAT
Post by: filphil on Wed, 17 June 2015, 09:13:35
Remember boys that this is supposed to be an addon to the GMK classic beige or OG cherry sets.
More than willing to pick up a GMK classic beige. :thumb:
Post by: Acerk on Wed, 17 June 2015, 09:19:06
Could you please clarify what you mean by mark?In a lot of group buys the organizers write on international packages that the value is $20, and it usually avoids VAT. But those are individuals, not businesses. I was wondering what you will do.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 17 June 2015, 09:38:20
Post by: quochung1989 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 09:44:58
You can always change it to have the RU legends side printed. This will differentiate the set and also negate any issues with the pad printing wearing off prematurely.If so, it isn't replica....
Personally I don't like this :-[
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 14:43:32
You can always change it to have the RU legends side printed. This will differentiate the set and also negate any issues with the pad printing wearing off prematurely.Yeah I don't know how down people would be with that
Post by: Karura on Wed, 17 June 2015, 14:46:22
I have old GMK pad-printed keys. While you're right that they are pretty durable, they will inevitably fade over time, and become lighter in colour. It's not an insignificant problem if you care about longevity.
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 17 June 2015, 14:53:37
Not down for the pad printed. Doubleshot or bust.A $50-or-so every 10 years seems fine by me ;)
I have old GMK pad-printed keys. While you're right that they are pretty durable, they will inevitably fade over time, and become lighter in colour. It's not an insignificant problem if you care about longevity.
Post by: Karura on Wed, 17 June 2015, 14:57:58
Not down for the pad printed. Doubleshot or bust.A $50-or-so every 10 years seems fine by me ;)
I have old GMK pad-printed keys. While you're right that they are pretty durable, they will inevitably fade over time, and become lighter in colour. It's not an insignificant problem if you care about longevity.
Very true. They do last for quite a few years!
Post by: madhias on Wed, 17 June 2015, 15:01:18
Post by: Blackehart on Wed, 17 June 2015, 16:09:12
Not down for the pad printed. Doubleshot or bust.
I have old GMK pad-printed keys. While you're right that they are pretty durable, they will inevitably fade over time, and become lighter in colour. It's not an insignificant problem if you care about longevity.
My WASD keys began to fade after 4 months ><'
I blame WoW.
*runs back into his cave*
Post by: Karura on Wed, 17 June 2015, 20:17:17
I'm a big fan of the HHKB delete, but I'd prefer to have a clean mod pack with dedicated keys if possible :thumb:
Post by: KappaKapps on Wed, 17 June 2015, 23:13:35
Would it be possible to have separate \| and HHKB 1.5u Delete keys? I'm sure that most people won't mind having dedicated keys for these, as a dedicated 1.5u Delete key for HHKB looks great.
I'm a big fan of the HHKB delete, but I'd prefer to have a clean mod pack with dedicated keys if possible :thumb:
We do not believe GMK has the tooling to produce that key. For simplicity we will keep it out of the group buy. However, if there is enough demand we will offer it.
Post by: Karura on Thu, 18 June 2015, 00:51:54
Would it be possible to have separate \| and HHKB 1.5u Delete keys? I'm sure that most people won't mind having dedicated keys for these, as a dedicated 1.5u Delete key for HHKB looks great.
I'm a big fan of the HHKB delete, but I'd prefer to have a clean mod pack with dedicated keys if possible :thumb:
We do not believe GMK has the tooling to produce that key. For simplicity we will keep it out of the group buy. However, if there is enough demand we will offer it.
It exists, the \| and <|x| 1.5u in R2, it's been run in many previous sets, GMK Dolch, even the ph0tayto's Classic Beige includes it.
(http://i.imgur.com/8ZuTbMV.png)
I've had many discussions with other GH members in the past, and I'm sure most people would prefer to have these two keys separate, as it looks a lot better.
Post by: Frizer on Thu, 18 June 2015, 01:10:25
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 18 June 2015, 01:42:43
Is it expensive to add a 1u row3 and a 1u row4? Either printed (pg dn & end) or blank. It adds a lot of flexibility for 75% layouts.
if you want this it would probably make more sense to have it in the classic beige group buy
Post by: whentheclouds on Thu, 18 June 2015, 02:13:38
if you want this it would probably make more sense to have it in the classic beige group buyhe's asking for those keys in WoR
Post by: HelixDan on Thu, 18 June 2015, 03:04:16
Post by: Jester00 on Thu, 18 June 2015, 05:15:03
Post by: Frizer on Thu, 18 June 2015, 06:52:19
(http://i.imgur.com/MP2FW4q.jpg)
(pinched from GMK Olivetti)
Post by: KappaKapps on Thu, 18 June 2015, 08:43:17
- Red Spacebar for the mod pack
- 1u row3 and a 1u row4
- Red Num Kit Modifier
- separate \| and HHKB 1.5u Delete keys
Post by: Orca on Thu, 18 June 2015, 09:43:09
Post by: KappaKapps on Thu, 18 June 2015, 16:27:59
Here are the F-Key mockups
(http://i.imgur.com/ArCv9Tu.png)
They are working on the WASD mockups right now, so for you WoW people *cough cough* Blackehart, you should be good.
They are also getting us a pricing update.
We have been advised to not add additional keycaps to the keysets otherwise the price will skyrocket at the current estimated amount of orders. The GMK Minimum Order Quantity is 250/400. At the 250 price bracket adding stuff is not worth it. We will add more community demanded keycaps once we hit the 400 MOQ from GMK unless an overwhelming majority of people want it.
On a somewhat unrelated note: the KappaKapps Summer Sale (http://kappakapps.com)is live!
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 18 June 2015, 19:49:01
We have received new information from GMK:
Here are the F-Key mockupsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ArCv9Tu.png)
They are working on the WASD mockups right now, so for you WoW people *cough cough* Blackehart, you should be good.
They are also getting us a pricing update.
We have been advised to not add additional keycaps to the keysets otherwise the price will skyrocket at the current estimated amount of orders. The GMK Minimum Order Quantity is 250/400. At the 250 price bracket adding stuff is not worth it. We will add more community demanded keycaps once we hit the 400 MOQ from GMK unless an overwhelming majority of people want it.
On a somewhat unrelated note: the KappaKapps Summer Sale (http://kappakapps.com)is live!
F keys! :D
Thanks you KappaKaps!
Post by: Karura on Fri, 19 June 2015, 02:18:47
Post by: quochung1989 on Fri, 19 June 2015, 02:38:49
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 19 June 2015, 02:41:46
I don't understand why we only add F1-F4 & F9-F12? Why do we not add full F row?Because the set is meant as an addition to classic beige, which has different colors for f5-8. For simplicity this keeps it at just one base color
Post by: Cameron on Fri, 19 June 2015, 02:45:32
Post by: quochung1989 on Fri, 19 June 2015, 03:34:16
I don't understand what you 're saying. It 's not relate to adding F1-F4 & F9-F12...I don't understand why we only add F1-F4 & F9-F12? Why do we not add full F row?Because the set is meant as an addition to classic beige, which has different colors for f5-8. For simplicity this keeps it at just one base color
Because Classic Beige had F1 -F4 & F9-F12 with BoW.
You're only give idea about Cyrillic Alpha. It's not explain my questions.
Personally I like Cyrillic not include F row because it 's add on for Classic Beige.
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 19 June 2015, 03:36:07
Oh wait yeah. Why would you double up on some F-row keys at all. Guess the guy who's running the IC can explain thatI don't understand what you 're saying. It 's not relate to adding F1-F4 & F9-F12...I don't understand why we only add F1-F4 & F9-F12? Why do we not add full F row?Because the set is meant as an addition to classic beige, which has different colors for f5-8. For simplicity this keeps it at just one base color
You're only give idea about Cyrillic Alpha. It's not explain my questions.
Personally I like Cyrillic not include F row because it 's add on for Classic Beige.
Post by: quochung1989 on Fri, 19 June 2015, 03:51:13
Oh wait yeah. Why would you double up on some F-row keys at all. Guess the guy who's running the IC can explain thatI don't understand what you 're saying. It 's not relate to adding F1-F4 & F9-F12...I don't understand why we only add F1-F4 & F9-F12? Why do we not add full F row?Because the set is meant as an addition to classic beige, which has different colors for f5-8. For simplicity this keeps it at just one base color
You're only give idea about Cyrillic Alpha. It's not explain my questions.
Personally I like Cyrillic not include F row because it 's add on for Classic Beige.
My bad. I said unclearly. Modified.
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 19 June 2015, 06:20:04
Post by: quochung1989 on Fri, 19 June 2015, 06:24:05
There should be the f-keys for the mod pack and that is it, no f-keys for alphasRight, there should black legend on white
Post by: KappaKapps on Fri, 19 June 2015, 10:29:05
Could we get an estimate on how much the keycap trays are going to cost? Because depending on the price I would buy more of them. Also
I'll ask the guys at GMK for that info.
After a lengthy discussion wiith KappaKapps, I am confident that we definitely could get some dedicated 1.5u \| and HHKB Delete keys :thumb:
If there is enough community interest, we will be more than happy to include them into the GB. I will ask GMK to make mockups and add them to the Red Mods.
Oh wait yeah. Why would you double up on some F-row keys at all. Guess the guy who's running the IC can explain thatI don't understand what you 're saying. It 's not relate to adding F1-F4 & F9-F12...I don't understand why we only add F1-F4 & F9-F12? Why do we not add full F row?Because the set is meant as an addition to classic beige, which has different colors for f5-8. For simplicity this keeps it at just one base color
You're only give idea about Cyrillic Alpha. It's not explain my questions.
Personally I like Cyrillic not include F row because it 's add on for Classic Beige.
There should be the f-keys for the mod pack and that is it, no f-keys for alphas
Initially we planned for the Red Mods to be compliment to the Cyrillic Alphas(including the F-keys), but I believe there was a bit of miscommunication between us, GH, and GMK(my bad). I'll ask them to make mockups for the Red Mods (to add F1-F4 and F9-F12, and an additional mockup for a full row of F-Keys).
Additionally here are some requests from others:
An R1-1u-Backslash/Pipe key in the Alphas
A red spacebar for the mods
I'll ask GMK for mockups for red spacebars in the mods.
Post by: katushkin on Sat, 20 June 2015, 06:41:20
Post by: quochung1989 on Sat, 20 June 2015, 07:08:51
Sound great & good idea :cool:
Post by: KappaKapps on Sat, 20 June 2015, 17:26:42
Oh. I understood part of your plan, Kappakapps :p
Sound great & good idea :cool:
Yes, so right now we plan to have F1-F4 and F9-F12 keys on the Cyrllic and just the F5-F8 on the red mods, OR no f keys on the Cyrllic and all F keys on the red mods
Post by: Jester00 on Sun, 21 June 2015, 06:08:21
OR no f keys on the Cyrllic and all F keys on the red modsWould strongly prefer that version!
Post by: quochung1989 on Sun, 21 June 2015, 06:36:08
Post by: luckyryan333 on Sun, 21 June 2015, 08:59:23
Oh. I understood part of your plan, Kappakapps :p
Sound great & good idea :cool:
Yes, so right now we plan to have F1-F4 and F9-F12 keys on the Cyrllic and just the F5-F8 on the red mods, OR no f keys on the Cyrllic and all F keys on the red mods
Well, the original mockups for both of them are much more palatable, and good enough IMO.
Post by: GSimon on Sun, 21 June 2015, 21:28:58
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=72869.0;attach=103920;image)
Post by: Jester00 on Mon, 22 June 2015, 04:33:35
(http://i.imgur.com/sXAxyeY.jpg)
Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 22 June 2015, 09:36:48
Are you sure it's that bright? It's the V1 in the following picture. Looks like the render in the OP was pretty accurate.GMK has a habit of giving horribly inaccurate rendersShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/sXAxyeY.jpg)
Post by: Blackehart on Mon, 22 June 2015, 11:13:22
We have received new information from GMK:
Here are the F-Key mockups
They are working on the WASD mockups right now, so for you WoW people *cough cough* Blackehart, you should be good.
They are also getting us a pricing update.
We have been advised to not add additional keycaps to the keysets otherwise the price will skyrocket at the current estimated amount of orders. The GMK Minimum Order Quantity is 250/400. At the 250 price bracket adding stuff is not worth it. We will add more community demanded keycaps once we hit the 400 MOQ from GMK unless an overwhelming majority of people want it.
On a somewhat unrelated note: the KappaKapps Summer Sale (http://kappakapps.com)is live!
WOOT!
Post by: GSimon on Mon, 22 June 2015, 11:19:21
Are you sure it's that bright? It's the V1 in the following picture. Looks like the render in the OP was pretty accurate.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/sXAxyeY.jpg)
I have a few GMK keys in V1 red, it's much closer to my render.
The top is probably more accurate than the sides of the keycaps because the shadows aren't all that apparent in the render so they look more vibrant
Post by: KappaKapps on Thu, 02 July 2015, 21:21:49
Post by: KappaKapps on Thu, 02 July 2015, 22:24:49
(http://i.imgur.com/yhCDEzd.png)
Please vote here:
http://strawpoll.me/4811511
Post by: ATXTider on Thu, 02 July 2015, 23:49:47
Here's an update with the red mods with full F keys. Now it's up to if you all want full f keys or partial f keys on the red mods. Remember that there will be an increase in price for full f keys. The initial idea was to have partial f keys to combo with the f keys in the alphasShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/yhCDEzd.png)
Please vote here:
http://strawpoll.me/4811511
Are you adding f keys to the alpha set?
Post by: simonyunhe on Thu, 02 July 2015, 23:55:38
Check this out. This has post before.Here's an update with the red mods with full F keys. Now it's up to if you all want full f keys or partial f keys on the red mods. Remember that there will be an increase in price for full f keys. The initial idea was to have partial f keys to combo with the f keys in the alphasShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/yhCDEzd.png)
Please vote here:
http://strawpoll.me/4811511
Are you adding f keys to the alpha set?
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/02/3e8083d3b117133ec7932968e3ff0b58.jpg)
Post by: quochung1989 on Fri, 03 July 2015, 01:38:25
Post by: Manchias on Mon, 06 July 2015, 02:07:23
Can you add F function row (Red legend on White) in Cyrillic Alpha?
Since the original bergie already have BOW, I think we can remove the BOW F function row of Cyrillic Alpha or make it Red on White is so much better
Post by: zhihuichan on Mon, 06 July 2015, 06:39:11
Look at the red symbol on A. :( :( :( :(
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 11 July 2015, 15:32:09
Count me in for one of everything :thumb:
Post by: lunr on Sat, 11 July 2015, 20:39:32
Post by: swimmingbird on Sat, 11 July 2015, 22:17:12
bit of a long shot but any chance you will do text-less for the modifiers? definitely will be interested if they were textless.
P = 0
Post by: ejizhan on Sun, 12 July 2015, 08:47:27
What time released?I'll buy a lot of sets
Post by: shower_king on Sun, 12 July 2015, 09:16:39
If possible ,please add number pad, if not , any possiblity for complete F zone, ranging from F1 to F12?
try something new and creative may bring pleasue. however, in pursuit for pleasure at the cost of compatability is another thing .
GOOD LUCK
Post by: KappaKapps on Tue, 14 July 2015, 00:08:31
(http://i.imgur.com/Vw4iKA6.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/tAYTxYy.png)
Cyrillic will most likely stay the same as in the OP, there will also be a WASD kit.
We're looking into a numpad set right now, and are deciding on what keys to include. If you have any preferences for numpad specific keys, please let us know.
Post by: quochung1989 on Tue, 14 July 2015, 00:31:38
1. Windowed caps at Capslock, Scrollock positions
(for boards haven't stand-off led). I think windowed caps is better.
2. F5-F8 ( Red on White)
I knew that almost people like F5-F8 (White on Red) than. But if this can take more order, hope you 'll consider my offer.
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 14 July 2015, 00:36:34
I prefer to add:I really would love to see a windowed caps
1. Windowed caps at Capslock, Scrollock positions
(for boards haven't stand-off led). I think windowed caps is better.
2. F5-F8 ( Red on White)
I knew that almost people like F5-F8 (White on Red) than. But if this can take more order, hope you 'll consider my offer.
Post by: meiosis on Tue, 14 July 2015, 00:38:03
I prefer to add:
1. Windowed caps at Capslock, Scrollock positions
(for boards haven't stand-off led). I think windowed caps is better.
2. F5-F8 ( Red on White)
I knew that almost people like F5-F8 (White on Red) than. But if this can take more order, hope you 'll consider my offer.
I can agree with #1, but #2 seems to be a bit of a stretch since I think a great majority prefer alternating functions
Post by: radio_killah on Tue, 14 July 2015, 00:38:16
Post by: luckyryan333 on Tue, 14 July 2015, 00:43:38
Too many changes... The cyrillic alphas set should stay exactly the way it is, its perfect the way it is, maybe add a R1 \| key for HHKB layouts but other than it is perfect.. I'm not exactly sure what you are trying to accomplish with the red mod set though. It is starting to go all over the place.
I totally agree with this.
The more keys, the higher price.
Post by: HelixDan on Thu, 16 July 2015, 04:51:24
R1 1u Num，*，/，-
and 2u Enter，2u +
enough for me :D
Post by: bluesoul on Thu, 16 July 2015, 04:58:39
numpad set :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
R1 1u Num，*，/，-
and 2u Enter，2u +
enough for me :D
awesome, that's enough for me too :D
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 16 July 2015, 05:10:48
/s/
Post by: Jokrik on Thu, 16 July 2015, 05:20:42
Too many changes... The cyrillic alphas set should stay exactly the way it is, its perfect the way it is, maybe add a R1 \| key for HHKB layouts but other than it is perfect.. I'm not exactly sure what you are trying to accomplish with the red mod set though. It is starting to go all over the place.
+1, getting a mockup and addons is one thing, reaching the MOQ is another yet most important
I've pretty sure that cryllic would go well with Photeq upcoming beige and I thought it's the initial target which is to compliment the beige
Post by: effectiveduck on Thu, 16 July 2015, 05:55:23
I think the original mock-ups were perfect, but still gonna buy both and classic beige.
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 16 July 2015, 06:25:51
I don't really see the point in adding F1-F4 and F9-F12 keys as they're included as part of the classic beige, especially with red alphas, doesn't even work if you just buy these 2 sets.
Agreed
Post by: luckyryan333 on Thu, 16 July 2015, 07:10:01
Post by: HelixDan on Thu, 16 July 2015, 07:34:08
I have HHKB and ErgoDox, but I got the feeling adding numpad kit into the RED mod is more worthy than adding these kit(HHKB and ErgoDox)
Post by: effectiveduck on Thu, 16 July 2015, 07:36:14
We've received updated mockups for red alphas. These keys are very close to the final key choice, as it seems to be the best of both worlds. Please let us know what you think.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Vw4iKA6.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tAYTxYy.png)
Cyrillic will most likely stay the same as in the OP, there will also be a WASD kit.
We're looking into a numpad set right now, and are deciding on what keys to include. If you have any preferences for numpad specific keys, please let us know.
Just seems like it's turning too much into it's own set, rather than a few add-ons to Classic Beige. If you wanna do your own thing that's cool, but make it one set (full size w/ cyrillic alpha's on maybe white or black then red mods as a side buy would be my recommendation).
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Thu, 16 July 2015, 07:37:44
i prefer to add numpad mod, most of people there have numpad or Cherry full layout keyboard，but less than half of the people have ErgoDox, HHKB, FC660 and some...
I have HHKB and ErgoDox, but I got the feeling adding numpad kit into the RED mod is more worthy than adding these kit(HHKB and ErgoDox)
Adding a numpad kit to the red mod kit will jump the price a good amount and I don't think it will be worth it for most people.
Post by: billnye on Thu, 16 July 2015, 07:40:51
The cyrillic alphas set should stay exactly the way it is
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Thu, 16 July 2015, 07:45:28
The cyrillic alphas set should stay exactly the way it is
+1
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 16 July 2015, 07:56:06
i prefer to add numpad mod, most of people there have numpad or Cherry full layout keyboard，but less than half of the people have ErgoDox, HHKB, FC660 and some...
I have HHKB and ErgoDox, but I got the feeling adding numpad kit into the RED mod is more worthy than adding these kit(HHKB and ErgoDox)
If there's that many people who use a numpad they can be run separately
I doubt it would hit MOQ
Post by: HelixDan on Thu, 16 July 2015, 07:57:44
i prefer to add numpad mod, most of people there have numpad or Cherry full layout keyboard，but less than half of the people have ErgoDox, HHKB, FC660 and some...
I have HHKB and ErgoDox, but I got the feeling adding numpad kit into the RED mod is more worthy than adding these kit(HHKB and ErgoDox)
Adding a numpad kit to the red mod kit will jump the price a good amount and I don't think it will be worth it for most people.
i do not know it will jump how much, additional $10?, i could less smoking or write a few codes :D
Post by: bluesoul on Thu, 16 July 2015, 08:14:46
i prefer to add numpad mod, most of people there have numpad or Cherry full layout keyboard，but less than half of the people have ErgoDox, HHKB, FC660 and some...
I have HHKB and ErgoDox, but I got the feeling adding numpad kit into the RED mod is more worthy than adding these kit(HHKB and ErgoDox)
If there's that many people who use a numpad they can be run separately
I doubt it would hit MOQ
umm, if there's that many people who don't use a numpad they can be run a whole new group that name "forever TKL"
I'm sure it would definitely hit MOQ
that sounds awesome, right? bro
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Thu, 16 July 2015, 08:15:57
i prefer to add numpad mod, most of people there have numpad or Cherry full layout keyboard，but less than half of the people have ErgoDox, HHKB, FC660 and some...
I have HHKB and ErgoDox, but I got the feeling adding numpad kit into the RED mod is more worthy than adding these kit(HHKB and ErgoDox)
Adding a numpad kit to the red mod kit will jump the price a good amount and I don't think it will be worth it for most people.
i do not know it will jump how much, additional $10?, i could less smoking or write a few codes :D
I am gonna guess more than $10 dollars. I would say at least $15 and for some people, myself included, a $15 dollar difference is a big deal, especially seeing as I don't use a numpad.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Thu, 16 July 2015, 08:31:27
i prefer to add numpad mod, most of people there have numpad or Cherry full layout keyboard，but less than half of the people have ErgoDox, HHKB, FC660 and some...
I have HHKB and ErgoDox, but I got the feeling adding numpad kit into the RED mod is more worthy than adding these kit(HHKB and ErgoDox)
If there's that many people who use a numpad they can be run separately
I doubt it would hit MOQ
umm, if there's that many people who don't use a numpad they can be run a whole new group that name "forever TKL"
I'm sure it would definitely hit MOQ
that sounds awesome, right? bro
Most people actually use TKL. For the year or so I have been on here, I don't believe I have seen a Numpad kit run in a GB like this as they don't hit MOQ. The full sets purchased especially those from GMK always include a numpad which is enough for most people as these kits are meant for accent pieces. If a numpad is added, it might as well be sold as a full kit.
Post by: HelixDan on Thu, 16 July 2015, 09:02:25
i prefer to add numpad mod, most of people there have numpad or Cherry full layout keyboard，but less than half of the people have ErgoDox, HHKB, FC660 and some...
I have HHKB and ErgoDox, but I got the feeling adding numpad kit into the RED mod is more worthy than adding these kit(HHKB and ErgoDox)
Adding a numpad kit to the red mod kit will jump the price a good amount and I don't think it will be worth it for most people.
i do not know it will jump how much, additional $10?, i could less smoking or write a few codes :D
I am gonna guess more than $10 dollars. I would say at least $15 and for some people, myself included, a $15 dollar difference is a big deal, especially seeing as I don't use a numpad.
more than $15? if so, it is a little bit expensive
Post by: HelixDan on Thu, 16 July 2015, 09:34:08
i prefer to add numpad mod, most of people there have numpad or Cherry full layout keyboard，but less than half of the people have ErgoDox, HHKB, FC660 and some...
I have HHKB and ErgoDox, but I got the feeling adding numpad kit into the RED mod is more worthy than adding these kit(HHKB and ErgoDox)
If there's that many people who use a numpad they can be run separately
I doubt it would hit MOQ
umm, if there's that many people who don't use a numpad they can be run a whole new group that name "forever TKL"
I'm sure it would definitely hit MOQ
that sounds awesome, right? bro
Most people actually use TKL. For the year or so I have been on here, I don't believe I have seen a Numpad kit run in a GB like this as they don't hit MOQ. The full sets purchased especially those from GMK always include a numpad which is enough for most people as these kits are meant for accent pieces. If a numpad is added, it might as well be sold as a full kit.
:D two TKLer here, but i wish Red Mod(with Numpad kit) could make it have a new look ;)
(http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/large/746b4b60gw1eu4zra0roij21w0128azk.jpg)
Post by: radio_killah on Thu, 16 July 2015, 10:14:54
Awesome board. Nice use of the blockers at top. Is that a lsv1 or lsv2?i prefer to add numpad mod, most of people there have numpad or Cherry full layout keyboard，but less than half of the people have ErgoDox, HHKB, FC660 and some...
I have HHKB and ErgoDox, but I got the feeling adding numpad kit into the RED mod is more worthy than adding these kit(HHKB and ErgoDox)
If there's that many people who use a numpad they can be run separately
I doubt it would hit MOQ
umm, if there's that many people who don't use a numpad they can be run a whole new group that name "forever TKL"
I'm sure it would definitely hit MOQ
that sounds awesome, right? bro
Most people actually use TKL. For the year or so I have been on here, I don't believe I have seen a Numpad kit run in a GB like this as they don't hit MOQ. The full sets purchased especially those from GMK always include a numpad which is enough for most people as these kits are meant for accent pieces. If a numpad is added, it might as well be sold as a full kit.
:D two TKLer here, but i wish Red Mod(with Numpad kit) could make it have a new look ;)Show Image(http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/large/746b4b60gw1eu4zra0roij21w0128azk.jpg)
Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 16 July 2015, 10:33:47
So in my opinion the red mod set is a bit too much and won't hit moq. I think just stick to your guns and go with the Cyrillic alphas as that's sure to be a hit with beige.Awesome board. Nice use of the blockers at top. Is that a lsv1 or lsv2?i prefer to add numpad mod, most of people there have numpad or Cherry full layout keyboard，but less than half of the people have ErgoDox, HHKB, FC660 and some...
I have HHKB and ErgoDox, but I got the feeling adding numpad kit into the RED mod is more worthy than adding these kit(HHKB and ErgoDox)
If there's that many people who use a numpad they can be run separately
I doubt it would hit MOQ
umm, if there's that many people who don't use a numpad they can be run a whole new group that name "forever TKL"
I'm sure it would definitely hit MOQ
that sounds awesome, right? bro
Most people actually use TKL. For the year or so I have been on here, I don't believe I have seen a Numpad kit run in a GB like this as they don't hit MOQ. The full sets purchased especially those from GMK always include a numpad which is enough for most people as these kits are meant for accent pieces. If a numpad is added, it might as well be sold as a full kit.
:D two TKLer here, but i wish Red Mod(with Numpad kit) could make it have a new look ;)Show Image(http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/large/746b4b60gw1eu4zra0roij21w0128azk.jpg)
Sure V2. Pls look arrow positions.
Post by: radio_killah on Thu, 16 July 2015, 11:16:04
So in my opinion the red mod set is a bit too much and won't hit moq. I think just stick to your guns and go with the Cyrillic alphas as that's sure to be a hit with beige.Awesome board. Nice use of the blockers at top. Is that a lsv1 or lsv2?i prefer to add numpad mod, most of people there have numpad or Cherry full layout keyboard，but less than half of the people have ErgoDox, HHKB, FC660 and some...
I have HHKB and ErgoDox, but I got the feeling adding numpad kit into the RED mod is more worthy than adding these kit(HHKB and ErgoDox)
If there's that many people who use a numpad they can be run separately
I doubt it would hit MOQ
umm, if there's that many people who don't use a numpad they can be run a whole new group that name "forever TKL"
I'm sure it would definitely hit MOQ
that sounds awesome, right? bro
Most people actually use TKL. For the year or so I have been on here, I don't believe I have seen a Numpad kit run in a GB like this as they don't hit MOQ. The full sets purchased especially those from GMK always include a numpad which is enough for most people as these kits are meant for accent pieces. If a numpad is added, it might as well be sold as a full kit.
:D two TKLer here, but i wish Red Mod(with Numpad kit) could make it have a new look ;)Show Image(http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/large/746b4b60gw1eu4zra0roij21w0128azk.jpg)
Sure V2. Pls look arrow positions.
LOL it is in his signature. I did not see it since I was on mobile.
Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 16 July 2015, 11:33:34
So in my opinion the red mod set is a bit too much and won't hit moq. I think just stick to your guns and go with the Cyrillic alphas as that's sure to be a hit with beige.Awesome board. Nice use of the blockers at top. Is that a lsv1 or lsv2?i prefer to add numpad mod, most of people there have numpad or Cherry full layout keyboard，but less than half of the people have ErgoDox, HHKB, FC660 and some...
I have HHKB and ErgoDox, but I got the feeling adding numpad kit into the RED mod is more worthy than adding these kit(HHKB and ErgoDox)
If there's that many people who use a numpad they can be run separately
I doubt it would hit MOQ
umm, if there's that many people who don't use a numpad they can be run a whole new group that name "forever TKL"
I'm sure it would definitely hit MOQ
that sounds awesome, right? bro
Most people actually use TKL. For the year or so I have been on here, I don't believe I have seen a Numpad kit run in a GB like this as they don't hit MOQ. The full sets purchased especially those from GMK always include a numpad which is enough for most people as these kits are meant for accent pieces. If a numpad is added, it might as well be sold as a full kit.
:D two TKLer here, but i wish Red Mod(with Numpad kit) could make it have a new look ;)Show Image(http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/large/746b4b60gw1eu4zra0roij21w0128azk.jpg)
Sure V2. Pls look arrow positions.
LOL it is in his signature. I did not see it since I was on mobile.
Yes. I didn't see his signature although I 'm using laptop :(
Post by: Karura on Wed, 22 July 2015, 05:55:36
I don't think many people will use the F1-F4, F9-F12, please remove them from the red mockpack since it isn't even red!
Also I love the red spacebars; please run them for sure.
Post by: kaiwwww on Wed, 22 July 2015, 07:02:28
I feel that the red modpack is getting too large.+1
I don't think many people will use the F1-F4, F9-F12, please remove them from the red mockpack since it isn't even red!
Also I love the red spacebars; please run them for sure.
Post by: bazemk1979 on Wed, 22 July 2015, 14:09:13
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 22 July 2015, 14:14:31
interested if this was full set
It is meant to go with the upcoming GMK Classic Beige Group Buy which Photekq will be running SoonTM.
Post by: KappaKapps on Mon, 27 July 2015, 14:00:05
We will go ahead with Cyrillic Alphas and the WASD Pack in one week, to coordinate with Classic Beige.
These are the final mockups:
(http://i.imgur.com/obMmiFd.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/GpSBzvE.png)
If there are any more questions regarding Cyrillic, feel free to post in the thread.
Post by: radio_killah on Mon, 27 July 2015, 15:00:40
Post by: madhias on Mon, 27 July 2015, 15:09:11
What's the point of the wasd kit? I think I missed it in earlier comments.
Maybe just a poor man's cyrillic set? Or for gamers to change the worn out WASD caps?
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 27 July 2015, 16:02:50
What's the point of the wasd kit? I think I missed it in earlier comments.
Maybe just a poor man's cyrillic set? Or for gamers to change the worn out WASD caps?
I was thinking it was for gamers as well.
Post by: Blackhawk on Mon, 27 July 2015, 16:05:48
Post by: KappaKapps on Mon, 27 July 2015, 16:52:16
What's the point of the wasd kit? I think I missed it in earlier comments.
The main purpose is for gamers who may wear down their WASD keys faster than other keys. Also, those who buy classic beige and want a little splash of Cyrillic on their keyboard can use this. We haven't received final pricing on the WASD kit, but it should be relatively cheap, so grab a few sets just in case.
Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 27 July 2015, 19:08:15
What's the point of the wasd kit? I think I missed it in earlier comments.
The main purpose is for gamers who may wear down their WASD keys faster than other keys. Also, those who buy classic beige and want a little splash of Cyrillic on their keyboard can use this. We haven't received final pricing on the WASD kit, but it should be relatively cheap, so grab a few sets just in case.
Not a bad idea for the pad printed sets
Post by: 64rky on Mon, 27 July 2015, 20:15:07
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Mon, 27 July 2015, 20:31:06
Post by: radio_killah on Mon, 27 July 2015, 20:32:32
I wonder if this is still happening, due to recent discoveries.
Link: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68609.0
Post by: ATXTider on Mon, 27 July 2015, 20:33:05
I wonder if this is still happening, due to recent discoveries.
Link: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68609.0
Ahh
Post by: jackiecanev2 on Mon, 27 July 2015, 22:42:15
I wonder if this is still happening, due to recent discoveries.
Link: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68609.0
That would be fairly disturbing, especially since KappaKaps picked up a good quantity of BillNye's Bluegaloo mods to resell with "all profits going to charity."
http://www.kappakapps.com
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/27/feb43bfde0151d9506c56cead632169a.jpg)
Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 27 July 2015, 23:36:55
Maybe someone will tell us what he actually did to get banned on his pacifist account, because why the hell would he spend a lot of money to pick up sets, and also fund himself, before selling, the Cyrillic caps. He didn't purchase a couple of the blue sets, he purchased quite a bit. And who cares if it goes to charity? I think it will, but only after he pays himself what he needs to in order to keep the site up. It costs quite a bit to run a store and keep it up. Why would someone who seems committed buy a bunch of sets, and sell them at near-retail price, and then people get pissed off. He is doing something that I find nice for people who miss out and it gives them a second chance. Also, by donating to charity he gets to deduct it from his tax form, so he is actually paying less by donating to charity as far as taxes go, otherwise anything he keeps as income would be taxed. Until we know why he was banned in the first place, I would lay off of him.I wonder if this is still happening, due to recent discoveries.
Link: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68609.0
That would be fairly disturbing, especially since KappaKaps picked up a good quantity of BillNye's Bluegaloo mods to resell with "all profits going to charity."
http://www.kappakapps.comShow Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/27/feb43bfde0151d9506c56cead632169a.jpg)
Post by: swimmingbird on Tue, 28 July 2015, 00:06:41
Maybe someone will tell us what he actually did to get banned on his pacifist account, because why the hell would he spend a lot of money to pick up sets, and also fund himself, before selling, the Cyrillic caps. He didn't purchase a couple of the blue sets, he purchased quite a bit. And who cares if it goes to charity? I think it will, but only after he pays himself what he needs to in order to keep the site up. It costs quite a bit to run a store and keep it up. Why would someone who seems committed buy a bunch of sets, and sell them at near-retail price, and then people get pissed off. He is doing something that I find nice for people who miss out and it gives them a second chance. Also, by donating to charity he gets to deduct it from his tax form, so he is actually paying less by donating to charity as far as taxes go, otherwise anything he keeps as income would be taxed. Until we know why he was banned in the first place, I would lay off of him.I wonder if this is still happening, due to recent discoveries.
Link: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68609.0
That would be fairly disturbing, especially since KappaKaps picked up a good quantity of BillNye's Bluegaloo mods to resell with "all profits going to charity."
http://www.kappakapps.comShow Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/27/feb43bfde0151d9506c56cead632169a.jpg)
If I ever remember correctly the Cyrillic and red mods kit are being run as a traditional group buy under the KappaKapps name - its not a retail operation.
I think maybe people are miscontruing the whole "all profits to charity thing" - just because you sell a set for more than what you paid for it doesn't mean you necessarily made a profit - KappaKapps is obviously going to pay themselves something and have to pay to keep the site running
Post by: Karura on Tue, 28 July 2015, 00:53:14
Does GH have a policy towards former known scammers?
I was really looking forward to the red mod pack. Do we have another person that could pick it up or is KappaKapps still going to proceed with it?
Post by: KnivesM on Tue, 28 July 2015, 01:18:39
I was really looking forward to the red mod pack. Do we have another person that could pick it up or is KappaKapps still going to proceed with it?The GB may go on with him being involved on r/MK and r/mechmarket but I can't say for sure. With this discovery I don't know if he will make MOQ though without some of GH, which is a shame because I wanted those Red Mods as well, and cases.
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 28 July 2015, 01:18:49
Welp, I guess the cat's out of the bag for him.he just probably can't proceed w/ direct business on here, so he could keep his site
Does GH have a policy towards former known scammers?
I was really looking forward to the red mod pack. Do we have another person that could pick it up or is KappaKapps still going to proceed with it?
Post by: KappaKapps on Tue, 28 July 2015, 01:59:03
While we sort out the details on our end, I, the founder of KappaKapps, would like to tell the community that the individual who went by "Pacifist" on GeekHack joined our team as a part time consultant and designer. He briefly mentioned some issues with GeekHack and thus his work was limited to behind the scenes operations on the technical aspects of various keycap projects and designing graphics for the website. The furthest extent of his involvement with various community websites was limited communication on other sites such as Twitter and Reddit. At this time, we cannot divulge further information about his occupation at KappaKapps.
The rest of the team hopes to reconcile any issues the community may have with our mission and any problems the community had with "Pacifist". We are still focused on bringing group buys and artisan keycaps to the community, with all our profits going to charity. More details will come later. The Cyrillic group buy will begin as previously planned next week at the same time as Classic Beige. We will try our best to answer any questions the community may have.
Post by: jackiecanev2 on Tue, 28 July 2015, 07:40:08
Because running a GB means being responsible for taking MOQ 250 * ~$115USD in advance, to the tune of ~$28k. Establishing a rep as a store within 2 months, or even as part of one, has superseded his previous dealings including flipping bros for obscene amounts openly and against brocap's wishes, and then winning byker's raffle and claiming that he'd "never won a bro."Maybe someone will tell us what he actually did to get banned on his pacifist account, because why the hell would he spend a lot of money to pick up sets, and also fund himself, before selling, the Cyrillic caps. He didn't purchase a couple of the blue sets, he purchased quite a bit. And who cares if it goes to charity? I think it will, but only after he pays himself what he needs to in order to keep the site up. It costs quite a bit to run a store and keep it up. Why would someone who seems committed buy a bunch of sets, and sell them at near-retail price, and then people get pissed off. He is doing something that I find nice for people who miss out and it gives them a second chance. Also, by donating to charity he gets to deduct it from his tax form, so he is actually paying less by donating to charity as far as taxes go, otherwise anything he keeps as income would be taxed. Until we know why he was banned in the first place, I would lay off of him.I wonder if this is still happening, due to recent discoveries.
Link: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68609.0
That would be fairly disturbing, especially since KappaKaps picked up a good quantity of BillNye's Bluegaloo mods to resell with "all profits going to charity."
http://www.kappakapps.comShow Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/27/feb43bfde0151d9506c56cead632169a.jpg)
To me, the charity is only an red flag because it may be nothing more than a ploy - KappaKaps is comprised of or involves at least one former member with a history of questionable and unethical behavior, and making false statements as a way of procuring both goods and trust. I wanted in on this GB, but having even one untrustworthy member is more than enough to reiterate the notion of caveat emptor; just look at the dolch dsa GB.
Post by: jackiecanev2 on Tue, 28 July 2015, 07:47:21
Why hell would he spend a lot of money to pick up sets, and also fund himself, before selling, the Cyrillic caps. He didn't purchase a couple of the blue sets, he purchased quite a bit.
Fronting the money for some packs and then reselling them immediately as preorders translates into very little out of pocket money, and "establishes" an instant association with GB's, GMK, and trust with VERY little effort. I'm not saying that this is what has happened, but it is also not a rational reason to give anyone a free pass to start collecting thousands of dollars.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 July 2015, 07:54:08
Does GH have a policy towards former known scammers?
I think it goes something like work alongside them if it helps you reach MOQ then deny, deny, deny.
What's worse, the people who know and go along anyway hoping no one will find out or people who will throw money at them regardless?
Post by: 64rky on Tue, 28 July 2015, 12:05:56
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 28 July 2015, 12:34:09
I was not close to the "incidents", and hopefully the above statement by kappa is legit. I am all for giving someone a second chance to rebuild their rep. Let's hope that doesn't burn me with this order,I really want these caps.exactly, I was told all he did was sell his caps for a high price. It seems that on all of the accounts Pac has been on so far, except his first one, he has proven himself worthy. It would be nice to know if he did anything else besides sell caps at a high price.
Post by: Giorgio on Tue, 28 July 2015, 16:56:00
(https://en.wiki2.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/60/QWERTZ_Srpska_tastatura.jpg/im464-800px-QWERTZ_Srpska_tastatura.jpg)
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Tue, 28 July 2015, 17:14:40
Post by: fishcola on Tue, 28 July 2015, 22:13:55
Post by: FrostyToast on Tue, 28 July 2015, 22:45:38
I was not here for Pacifist's early incidents, but have spoken to many people about it. I was here for the MGH incident, and developed opinions at that time. I have been told by many people, that he is just trying to start over, and help the community. My question for him is, if that was truly your goal, why would you hide behind someone else, and attempt to mask your true identity? You knew what happened last time you were found out. And you/your partner make a post like that? A blatant lie? I do not know you personally, but I know enough to know bull**** when I see it. Do everyone at GH a favor and leave, this time for good.
Ha. People won't let him start over.
People see the name, "pacifist", and immediately backlash and **** all over the guy. It's no wonder why he is trying to abandon and hide his former identity.
Post by: clacktalk on Tue, 28 July 2015, 23:25:55
I was not here for Pacifist's early incidents, but have spoken to many people about it. I was here for the MGH incident, and developed opinions at that time. I have been told by many people, that he is just trying to start over, and help the community. My question for him is, if that was truly your goal, why would you hide behind someone else, and attempt to mask your true identity? You knew what happened last time you were found out. And you/your partner make a post like that? A blatant lie? I do not know you personally, but I know enough to know bull**** when I see it. Do everyone at GH a favor and leave, this time for good.
Ha. People won't let him start over.
People see the name, "pacifist", and immediately backlash and **** all over the guy. It's no wonder why he is trying to abandon and hide his former identity.
regardless, the haters hating doesn't justify alleged pacifist jumping into alter egos. sure, motives and whatnot can be rationalized, but it's besides the point.
there are obviously reasons why he's so disliked in the first place. people expressing themselves is something that came out of that. i shouldn't even have to point that out. this isn't the best way to come back, and it's not even close. it's just convenient.
also, your point of view is really condescending towards pacifist, if it is him. basically you're asking for people to pity him because everyone is ****ting on him. i'm not going to feel bad for somebody because she/he messed up and now he feels bad, especially if i'm being told to do it. i'm going to respect the person enough to think she/he doesn't want/deserve that. if anything, i feel bad for alleged pacifist because people are defending him with those kinds of statements.
anyway, i came here to say i think kappakapps is legit, professional and has only been a positive energy around these hoods. good luck with the gb!
Post by: ATXTider on Tue, 28 July 2015, 23:41:15
I am new to this, and have not been scarred by alleged treachery. I just wanted in on this GB for the red modifiers... can i get at least some of these from the stock cherry red modifiers at elitekeyboards?Ctrl, Alt, Shift, Enter, Esc, Arrows.
Post by: fishcola on Tue, 28 July 2015, 23:45:02
Post by: ATXTider on Tue, 28 July 2015, 23:50:38
don't mean to take away from this GB. but they're the same "GMK red?" I don't have any place placing judgment on the mentioned parties, and honestly I'd pay for the full set... ugh i feel bad asking lol.
They should be, GMK only has one red shade of red.
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Post by: fishcola on Wed, 29 July 2015, 01:09:54
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 01 August 2015, 14:44:59
The team at KappaKapps is currently dealing with this "Pacifist" incident. Previously, we were mildly aware of what had happened, but did not investigate further. We are now taking a deeper look into what had happened.
While we sort out the details on our end, I, the founder of KappaKapps, would like to tell the community that the individual who went by "Pacifist" on GeekHack joined our team as a part time consultant and designer. He briefly mentioned some issues with GeekHack and thus his work was limited to behind the scenes operations on the technical aspects of various keycap projects and designing graphics for the website. The furthest extent of his involvement with various community websites was limited communication on other sites such as Twitter and Reddit. At this time, we cannot divulge further information about his occupation at KappaKapps.
The rest of the team hopes to reconcile any issues the community may have with our mission and any problems the community had with "Pacifist". We are still focused on bringing group buys and artisan keycaps to the community, with all our profits going to charity. More details will come later. The Cyrillic group buy will begin as previously planned next week at the same time as Classic Beige. We will try our best to answer any questions the community may have.
Thanks for the "official" statement.
I will watch this closely and then decide whether I will join this GB or not...
Post by: jonathanyu on Sat, 01 August 2015, 16:25:00
The team at KappaKapps is currently dealing with this "Pacifist" incident. Previously, we were mildly aware of what had happened, but did not investigate further. We are now taking a deeper look into what had happened.
While we sort out the details on our end, I, the founder of KappaKapps, would like to tell the community that the individual who went by "Pacifist" on GeekHack joined our team as a part time consultant and designer. He briefly mentioned some issues with GeekHack and thus his work was limited to behind the scenes operations on the technical aspects of various keycap projects and designing graphics for the website. The furthest extent of his involvement with various community websites was limited communication on other sites such as Twitter and Reddit. At this time, we cannot divulge further information about his occupation at KappaKapps.
The rest of the team hopes to reconcile any issues the community may have with our mission and any problems the community had with "Pacifist". We are still focused on bringing group buys and artisan keycaps to the community, with all our profits going to charity. More details will come later. The Cyrillic group buy will begin as previously planned next week at the same time as Classic Beige. We will try our best to answer any questions the community may have.
Who else is in the "team", or pacifist is the "team"
Post by: Ngt on Sat, 01 August 2015, 20:07:47
Post by: MGH on Sun, 02 August 2015, 00:40:48
i was planning on doing this anyways...but im resigning from my design role at kappakapps
mainly for personal issues, but with recent **** now is a good time. moving across the country to college is an ordeal that makes working for kappakapps almost impossible. the guys had already began prep for my leave, but didnt expect it for another month, so some metal artisan caps and other small **** will be delayed. i was going to leave as quietly as i came, but whatever...
not going to go into specifics, so just know im busy with college and gf **** now and thats more important than keyboard ****
i think the kappakapps owner y covered everything else. i didnt do much for the gmk gbs, the rest of the guys on the team already know what theyre doing so everyone should be in good hands for the gb
ps for those that want to contact me, gonna delete password for this account, use steam id mgh_, old addy and **** wont be used anymore
Post by: 64rky on Sun, 02 August 2015, 11:06:41
Post by: Ngt on Sun, 02 August 2015, 12:10:33
Soooo... Is this GB gonna happen? I am super interested!
Considering his post, I think he said the GB would go along even without him.
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 02 August 2015, 22:57:19
Some people just can't admit when they're caught. Well, I guess the major problem is that he can't just change his name and come back this time, since he has so much invested in the KappaKapps name, a website, etc. So he has to come up with this fiction about a "team." Predictable.
Post by: KappaKapps on Mon, 03 August 2015, 00:49:31
To give a tl;dr and heads up:
- Pacifist was banned for having multiple accounts on GH. He did not have possession/access to this GH account.
- Many of the points below are valid, and many are not. I (Andrew Yang), representing KappaKapps, ask the community to see all the facts before drawing conclusions
- The GB will proceed, we are finalizing details.
- Most importantly, physical proof/evidence will be released to ensure our reputation.
I would like to site my appreciation for this set, with the hope that you will take into consideration the keys necessary for a complete iso set; that should mean two or three 1u keys (0.7eur each). A set of mods with Cyrillic printing would be a big plus.Maybe someone will tell us what he actually did to get banned on his pacifist account, because why the hell would he spend a lot of money to pick up sets, and also fund himself, before selling, the Cyrillic caps. He didn't purchase a couple of the blue sets, he purchased quite a bit. And who cares if it goes to charity? I think it will, but only after he pays himself what he needs to in order to keep the site up. It costs quite a bit to run a store and keep it up. Why would someone who seems committed buy a bunch of sets, and sell them at near-retail price, and then people get pissed off. He is doing something that I find nice for people who miss out and it gives them a second chance. Also, by donating to charity he gets to deduct it from his tax form, so he is actually paying less by donating to charity as far as taxes go, otherwise anything he keeps as income would be taxed. Until we know why he was banned in the first place, I would lay off of him.I wonder if this is still happening, due to recent discoveries.
Link: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68609.0
That would be fairly disturbing, especially since KappaKaps picked up a good quantity of BillNye's Bluegaloo mods to resell with "all profits going to charity."
http://www.kappakapps.comShow Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/27/feb43bfde0151d9506c56cead632169a.jpg)Welp, I guess the cat's out of the bag for him.
Does GH have a policy towards former known scammers?
I was really looking forward to the red mod pack. Do we have another person that could pick it up or is KappaKapps still going to proceed with it?I was really looking forward to the red mod pack. Do we have another person that could pick it up or is KappaKapps still going to proceed with it?The GB may go on with him being involved on r/MK and r/mechmarket but I can't say for sure. With this discovery I don't know if he will make MOQ though without some of GH, which is a shame because I wanted those Red Mods as well, and cases.I was not close to the "incidents", and hopefully the above statement by kappa is legit. I am all for giving someone a second chance to rebuild their rep. Let's hope that doesn't burn me with this order,I really want these caps.I was not here for Pacifist's early incidents, but have spoken to many people about it. I was here for the MGH incident, and developed opinions at that time. I have been told by many people, that he is just trying to start over, and help the community. My question for him is, if that was truly your goal, why would you hide behind someone else, and attempt to mask your true identity? You knew what happened last time you were found out. And you/your partner make a post like that? A blatant lie? I do not know you personally, but I know enough to know bull**** when I see it. Do everyone at GH a favor and leave, this time for good.I was not here for Pacifist's early incidents, but have spoken to many people about it. I was here for the MGH incident, and developed opinions at that time. I have been told by many people, that he is just trying to start over, and help the community. My question for him is, if that was truly your goal, why would you hide behind someone else, and attempt to mask your true identity? You knew what happened last time you were found out. And you/your partner make a post like that? A blatant lie? I do not know you personally, but I know enough to know bull**** when I see it. Do everyone at GH a favor and leave, this time for good.
Ha. People won't let him start over.
People see the name, "pacifist", and immediately backlash and **** all over the guy. It's no wonder why he is trying to abandon and hide his former identity.
regardless, the haters hating doesn't justify alleged pacifist jumping into alter egos. sure, motives and whatnot can be rationalized, but it's besides the point.
there are obviously reasons why he's so disliked in the first place. people expressing themselves is something that came out of that. i shouldn't even have to point that out. this isn't the best way to come back, and it's not even close. it's just convenient.
also, your point of view is really condescending towards pacifist, if it is him. basically you're asking for people to pity him because everyone is ****ting on him. i'm not going to feel bad for somebody because she/he messed up and now he feels bad, especially if i'm being told to do it. i'm going to respect the person enough to think she/he doesn't want/deserve that. if anything, i feel bad for alleged pacifist because people are defending him with those kinds of statements.
anyway, i came here to say i think kappakapps is legit, professional and has only been a positive energy around these hoods. good luck with the gb!Show Image(https://en.wiki2.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/60/QWERTZ_Srpska_tastatura.jpg/im464-800px-QWERTZ_Srpska_tastatura.jpg)
Post by: Karura on Mon, 03 August 2015, 01:10:54
That said, would you please for once TELL THE TRUTH and stop lying about being a different person?
I am seriously offended that you think we're all idiots and that we don't know you're MGH/Pacifist.
I'm not sure if you're aware, but your mannerisms and manner of speech give you away...
Your only chance of redemption would be to come clean, express your genuine intentions to start over and positively contribute to the community.
I am sure people would be willing to embrace your efforts, as long as you have the right intentions.
Please stop with the shady crap... It's honestly quite embarrassing.
Post by: KappaKapps on Mon, 03 August 2015, 01:29:48
KappaKapps is trustworthy to the community, as we have invested five figures in community Group Buys to help tip the Blue Modifier Group Buy past the 400 MOQ mark. Billnye and other members can vouch for our team. We're reselling the sets on our site so people who missed out on the original Group Buy have a trustworthy source to purchase a set for themselves. We've completed many orders with 100% satisfaction, with all profit we gained going to charity.
(http://i.imgur.com/Nomeqzj.jpg)
KappaKapps is owned by me, Andrew Yang. We have a small team working on providing high quality keycaps for the community, and it's unfortunate that one of our members is leaving.
(http://i.imgur.com/VnUlk23.jpg)
I urge the community to research their statements before drawing one sided conclusions and blatantly accusing patrons of the mechanical keyboard community.
To our knowledge, "Pacifist" only violated the multiple accounts rule on GeekHack. Because we did not let him interact with the community, we thought that this would not be a problem.
The group buy will start Tuesday, with three parts, the Cyrillic Alphas, the Cyrillic WASD Kit, and GMK Keycap Trays.
Pricing will be $60 for the Alphas, $7 for the WASD Kit, and $8 for the Keycap Trays. All typical Group Buy and PayPal fees are integrated into the pricing. If we tip the 400MOQ for the Alphas, pricing will be lower. However, there is no MOQ for the keycap trays.
(http://i.imgur.com/o9Dxse2.jpg)
We hope to have a successful Group Buy!
Post by: Karura on Mon, 03 August 2015, 02:23:25
KappaKapps is owned by me, Andrew Yang. We have a small team working on providing high quality keycaps for the community, and it's unfortunate that one of our members is leaving.
I urge the community to research their statements before drawing one sided conclusions and blatantly accusing patrons of the mechanical keyboard community.
I object.
How exactly does posting a photo of a valid American passport with the name Andrew Yang prove anything?
What exactly are you trying to prove?
For someone that was not present for the debacle regarding MGH/Pacifist, how would they even know the real name of MGH/Pacifist?
All you did is prove to us that:
1) You have photos of a valid American passport with the name Andrew Yang.
2) KappaKapps LLC donates to charity.
It does not disprove that MGH/Pacifist is behind KappaKapps.
Your so-called "evidence" had completely dodged the question. How do we know that MGH/Pacifist is not the sole-owner and operator of KappaKapps?
Post by: KappaKapps on Mon, 03 August 2015, 02:33:21
KappaKapps is owned by me, Andrew Yang. We have a small team working on providing high quality keycaps for the community, and it's unfortunate that one of our members is leaving.
I urge the community to research their statements before drawing one sided conclusions and blatantly accusing patrons of the mechanical keyboard community.
I object.
How exactly does posting a photo of a valid American passport with the name Andrew Yang prove anything?
What exactly are you trying to prove?
For someone that was not present for the debacle regarding MGH/Pacifist, how would they even know the real name of MGH/Pacifist?
All you did is prove to us that:
1) You have photos of a valid American passport with the name Andrew Yang.
2) KappaKapps LLC donates to charity.
It does not disprove that MGH/Pacifist is behind KappaKapps.
Your so-called "evidence" had completely dodged the question. How do we know that MGH/Pacifist is not the sole-owner and operator of KappaKapps?
I'm not sure how I can clear this up for you.
That is my American passport, my name, and this account is my account.
After we were accused in this thread, I asked Pacifist to notify me on all his past actions with Geekhack.
Post by: Karura on Mon, 03 August 2015, 02:40:54
Why does MGH/Pacifist feel the need to lie constantly, over and over again, hiding behind a NEW persona every single time?
How do you expect people to trust you to run a business if you can't even tell the truth for once?
You must think you are very smart.
Post by: KappaKapps on Mon, 03 August 2015, 02:43:38
All the community wants to know is that:
Why does MGH/Pacifist feel the need to lie constantly, over and over again, hiding behind a NEW persona every single time?
How do you expect people to trust you to run a business if you can't even tell the truth for once?
You must think you are very smart.
I'm not sure, you are welcome to ask him.
Again, we only hired him as a consultant and DID NOT give him access to our GeekHack account. My name is Andrew YANG not Andrew WANG. Due to recent news, he has been let go, there is no need to hide it behind a resignation.
Please see that I am telling the truth. I am willing to skype you, show you the passport picture etc.
Post by: Karura on Mon, 03 August 2015, 02:44:28
All the community wants to know is that:
Why does MGH/Pacifist feel the need to lie constantly, over and over again, hiding behind a NEW persona every single time?
How do you expect people to trust you to run a business if you can't even tell the truth for once?
You must think you are very smart.
I'm not sure, you are welcome to ask him.
Again, we only hired him as a consultant and DID NOT give him access to our GeekHack account. My name is Andrew YANG not Andrew WANG. Due to recent news, he has been let go, there is no need to hide it behind a resignation.
Alright Mr. Yang. So you're saying YANG WANG right?
Post by: KappaKapps on Mon, 03 August 2015, 02:45:33
All the community wants to know is that:
Why does MGH/Pacifist feel the need to lie constantly, over and over again, hiding behind a NEW persona every single time?
How do you expect people to trust you to run a business if you can't even tell the truth for once?
You must think you are very smart.
I'm not sure, you are welcome to ask him.
Again, we only hired him as a consultant and DID NOT give him access to our GeekHack account. My name is Andrew YANG not Andrew WANG. Due to recent news, he has been let go, there is no need to hide it behind a resignation.
Alright Mr. Yang. So you're saying YANG WANG right?
My legal name is Andrew Yang (as seen in the passport), feel free to take me on my offer tomorrow.
Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 03 August 2015, 02:52:18
Any word on the pricing of the mod sets?
Post by: KappaKapps on Mon, 03 August 2015, 02:58:07
Keycap trays look really cool! I like the little GMK logo on them :)
Any word on the pricing of the mod sets?
Thanks for contributing to the interest check.
We plan to do it in a month since there has been a lot of demand for additional features/caps. Primarily, to let us gauge interest on the additional features. It's a lot easier for us to communicate with GMK if we focus on one set at a time.
I noticed you had a previous post that questioned our donation procedure. Obviously server costs, hosting, and supplies need to be paid. A portion of our revenue goes to that. However, we do not take money out of the business into our own pockets.
Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 03 August 2015, 03:00:55
Keycap trays look really cool! I like the little GMK logo on them :)
Any word on the pricing of the mod sets?
Thanks for contributing to the interest check.
We plan to do it in a month since there has been a lot of demand for additional features/caps. Primarily, to let us gauge interest on the additional features. It's a lot easier for us to communicate with GMK if we focus on one set at a time.
Do you think that the trays will add much to the price of postage? I'm hoping they can be stacked quite easily as I would be interested in getting quite a few (ie 10) to store my keysets
Post by: KappaKapps on Mon, 03 August 2015, 03:09:05
Keycap trays look really cool! I like the little GMK logo on them :)
Any word on the pricing of the mod sets?
Thanks for contributing to the interest check.
We plan to do it in a month since there has been a lot of demand for additional features/caps. Primarily, to let us gauge interest on the additional features. It's a lot easier for us to communicate with GMK if we focus on one set at a time.
Do you think that the trays will add much to the price of postage? I'm hoping they can be stacked quite easily as I would be interested in getting quite a few (ie 10) to store my keysets
To Australia, $25 at most. We don't have exact packaging info up yet, however, we are able to get rough estimates. If the shipping is cheaper, we will refund you the difference and provide a receipt.
Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 03 August 2015, 03:10:01
Keycap trays look really cool! I like the little GMK logo on them :)
Any word on the pricing of the mod sets?
Thanks for contributing to the interest check.
We plan to do it in a month since there has been a lot of demand for additional features/caps. Primarily, to let us gauge interest on the additional features. It's a lot easier for us to communicate with GMK if we focus on one set at a time.
Do you think that the trays will add much to the price of postage? I'm hoping they can be stacked quite easily as I would be interested in getting quite a few (ie 10) to store my keysets
To Australia, $25 at most. We don't have exact packaging info up yet, however, we are able to get rough estimates. If the shipping is cheaper, we will refund you the difference and provide a receipt.
$25 is pretty reasonable :)
Post by: KappaKapps on Mon, 03 August 2015, 03:15:20
Keycap trays look really cool! I like the little GMK logo on them :)
Any word on the pricing of the mod sets?
Thanks for contributing to the interest check.
We plan to do it in a month since there has been a lot of demand for additional features/caps. Primarily, to let us gauge interest on the additional features. It's a lot easier for us to communicate with GMK if we focus on one set at a time.
Do you think that the trays will add much to the price of postage? I'm hoping they can be stacked quite easily as I would be interested in getting quite a few (ie 10) to store my keysets
To Australia, $25 at most. We don't have exact packaging info up yet, however, we are able to get rough estimates. If the shipping is cheaper, we will refund you the difference and provide a receipt.
$25 is pretty reasonable :)
Yes, that is with USPS. I have no idea about their international speed. It's pretty late/early where I am, so I will be sleeping soon. We will have more details out on Tuesday, but feel free to ask any questions in the mean time.
Post by: KappaKapps on Mon, 03 August 2015, 03:41:13
I recently received information that a user known as Byker will be posting some information that will corroborate KappaKapps to Pacifist via Paypal. (He PM'd me this)
He/She claims that this information will be posted at noon if I don't "tell the community the truth." However, I have been telling the community the truth.
At the time that Paypal account was created, Pacifist was trying to be helpful and created that account. However, the Paypal account that the team at KappaKapps uses is a completely different Paypal. I would make a video demonstrating this, however I am about to sleep (it's 4 am here). You will notice that the first transaction in his image occurs on February 7th. Our Paypal account, which is used on the site, was created in May.
Here is our Paypal account's screenshot:
(http://i.imgur.com/JvyWpNb.png)
As you can see there are many customers, their names have been censored according to our Privacy Policy. If you were a customer of us, and want to clear this up, feel free to post enough details that a transaction matches up with one in the Paypal account.
Of course there are those in the community that will think I'm still lying so:
I am willing to have a skype session for those that want the truth for a inside look at our Paypal account. However, some information will be censored. To verify that this is the Paypal account being used, the source code on our site will match up with the encryption codes in the account.
Again, we are a transparent company (pics of our Paypal account). We have nothing to hide, and I am able to explain all the numbers. $19.50 is the cost for an Undead Clackin and shipping to the CONUS. That's our most popular item, so you can see it has been in the transactions a lot. Additionally, the donation to Extra Life(CMN) shows up on that image.
Here is the CMN donation that shows the exact transaction ID, if you would like to hunt that down.
(http://i.imgur.com/BZAgbRG.png)
Post by: KappaKapps on Mon, 03 August 2015, 04:08:46
I messaged Pacifist on Skype and asked for the exact transactions the byker has been threatening to post.
I will not be paying him the consulting fees for this month, and I have threatened to cancel the transaction for the previous month until this is over.
Here are the SPECIFIC transactions that byker will post:
As you can see they do not link to the KappaKapps Paypal email (sales@kappakapps.com). To prove that this is the email we are using, anyone can send $1 to the email and it will show up in the transaction listed above. For everyone that does this, I will post a picture and video with the transaction information in that list of transactions. Additionally, for every $1 sent, I will be matching donations out of pocket to Doctors Without Borders. (Limit $3 per person).
For those that are wondering, I'm trying to keep a business alive that I have put my sweat, blood, and tears into. Some of the members in this community have been claiming I am lying(ruining my work) and thus I am making post like these to prove I am not.
It's 4AM where I am located so I'm going to be sleeping for real this time and gonna get:
(http://i.imgur.com/UbGPzpT.png)
Mod edit: removed personal information
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 03 August 2015, 04:26:21
blank the personnal informations on your last post pls.
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Mon, 03 August 2015, 04:55:32
Update #2WHOA Doxx much?
I messaged Pacifist on Skype and asked for the exact transactions the byker has been threatening to post.
I will not be paying him the consulting fees for this month, and I have threatened to cancel the transaction for the previous month until this is over.
Here are the SPECIFIC transactions that byker will post:
As you can see they do not link to the KappaKapps Paypal email (sales@kappakapps.com). To prove that this is the email we are using, anyone can send $1 to the email and it will show up in the transaction listed above. For everyone that does this, I will post a picture and video with the transaction information in that list of transactions. Additionally, for every $1 sent, I will be matching donations out of pocket to Doctors Without Borders. (Limit $3 per person).
For those that are wondering, I'm trying to keep a business alive that I have put my sweat, blood, and tears into. Some of the members in this community have been claiming I am lying(ruining my work) and thus I am making post like these to prove I am not.
It's 4AM where I am located so I'm going to be sleeping for real this time and gonna get:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/UbGPzpT.png)
Post by: Belfong on Mon, 03 August 2015, 07:59:56
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 03 August 2015, 08:25:06
They have vendor status, that amount to something, right?
It amounts to forum staff handing out vendor status without any kind of validation of who was behind the account. Sorry, but that's the truth. I warned the staff about this situation on the same day that vendor status was given, but I didn't have confirming evidence of it at that time.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 03 August 2015, 08:27:42
They have vendor status, that amount to something, right?
Ha, ha, ha, ha....too funny.
Belfong I needed a good laugh this morning.
Let's be honest, anyone comes along pushing GMK caps or fancy aluminum keyboards or any of the other hot items and people blindly throw money at them.
Personally I'm tired of being burned around here.
Post by: Ngt on Mon, 03 August 2015, 08:35:40
They have vendor status, that amount to something, right?
Ha, ha, ha, ha....too funny.
Belfong I needed a good laugh this morning.
Let's be honest, anyone comes along pushing GMK caps or fancy aluminum keyboards or any of the other hot items and people blindly throw money at them.
Personally I'm tired of being burned around here.
I don't have your experience on GH but I feel not everyone is a scammer. You have people like JD, Ctrl Alt team, Photekq, Hwood, Shadovved that show themselves trustworthy many times and perhaps other people as well that I don't know about. But I feel you, it is sad we have to be doubtful about GBs organisers.
Post by: Belfong on Mon, 03 August 2015, 09:09:02
They have vendor status, that amount to something, right?
It amounts to forum staff handing out vendor status without any kind of validation of who was behind the account. Sorry, but that's the truth. I warned the staff about this situation on the same day that vendor status was given, but I didn't have confirming evidence of it at that time.
There should be some kind of trust when people get a Maker or Vendor status from GH. Perhaps the mods or the staff need to relook at this if we can't have some kind of confidence. It's dangerous especially to new people and it also put GH reputation at stake. Perhaps some sort of vote of confidence among the community is needed before we hand out Statuses like this.
You are longer here than I am Spam, so I guess you have seen most of it all. I think GH is not able to control who runs a Group Buys and it is really up to members to be careful. But GH can control the Vendor and Maker status.They have vendor status, that amount to something, right?
Ha, ha, ha, ha....too funny.
Belfong I needed a good laugh this morning.
Let's be honest, anyone comes along pushing GMK caps or fancy aluminum keyboards or any of the other hot items and people blindly throw money at them.
Personally I'm tired of being burned around here.
Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 03 August 2015, 09:34:18
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 03 August 2015, 09:50:47
They have vendor status, that amount to something, right?
It amounts to forum staff handing out vendor status without any kind of validation of who was behind the account. Sorry, but that's the truth. I warned the staff about this situation on the same day that vendor status was given, but I didn't have confirming evidence of it at that time.
Thanks for the toss under the bus, JD. Unfortunately we cannot make moderation decisions based on a hunch.
Once more evidence started flowing in, we've been looking into it further. And yes, KappaKapps slipped through the cracks and didn't get the rigorous look-over that we have since instated. This has since been rectified (you can ask sethk_ :) ).
Post by: KHAANNN on Mon, 03 August 2015, 09:53:16
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 03 August 2015, 16:08:09
:( :(
Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 03 August 2015, 16:18:08
but I didn't have confirming evidence of it at that time.
Post by: Karura on Mon, 03 August 2015, 16:58:42
YES, the red modifiers and Cyrillic pack are both REALLY awesome. I really want a set myself.
But PLEASE remember, there have been numerous group buys in the past where the vendor has run off with $1XX,XXX USD, with no delivery of goods.
The question I want to ask is, who is KappaKapps?
Even if he has not scammed anyone currently, and wants to start a legitimate business, does he really deserve our trust, for all the past bull**** and shady dealings he has done?
Do we really want to trust someone with a questionable past? What do we do if he suddenly decides to revert back to his previous ways of lies and trickery?
Don't let your desire for these GMK keycaps cloud your judgement.
Post by: Ngt on Mon, 03 August 2015, 17:05:16
I want to remind the community that:
YES, red modifiers and Cyrillic pack is REALLY awesome. I really want a set myself.
But PLEASE remember, there have been numerous group buys in the past where the vendor has run off with $1XX,XXX USD, with no delivery of goods.
The question I want to ask is, who is KappaKapps?
Even if he has not scammed anyone currently, and wants to start a legitimate business, does he really deserve our trust, for all the past bull**** and shady dealings he had done?
Do we really want to trust someone with a questionable past? What do we do if he suddenly decides to revert back to his previous ways of lies and trickery?
Don't let your desire for these GMK keycaps cloud your judgement.
That's exactly how I feel atm. Do you require particular relationship with GMK to start a GB or can anybody do it? As long as they are willing to put the effort required to the task.
Post by: byker on Mon, 03 August 2015, 17:18:38
Post by: Kakkun on Mon, 03 August 2015, 18:26:38
Are there the same sets as this drop, and if so, would it be possible to purchase a single R key?
Post by: KappaKapps on Mon, 03 August 2015, 18:37:33
So I ask a question about conflicting paypal emails and get my private information posted on the internet? Really mature there KappaKaps. It looks like you broke your own privacy policy. http://www.kappakapps.com/privacy.html (http://www.kappakapps.com/privacy.html) If I can't trust this vendor with my keeping my information private, I definitely won't be trusting them with my money.
I apologize for that; it was not an attempt to leak you information, but to tell the community the truth. Additionally, that information was from Pacifist, not our site. Accusing me of lying isn't really asking a question either.
I bought this set (http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/cyrllic) from Originative a while back. Originative being what they are, they sent me two "I" keys and no "R" key.
Are there the same sets as this drop, and if so, would it be possible to purchase a single R key?
It looks like it's a different color:
(http://i.imgur.com/cIlAHyh.jpg)
However, it might just be the camera.
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 03 August 2015, 18:40:24
Post by: KappaKapps on Mon, 03 August 2015, 18:42:22
Hey everyone! This GB is special...it comes with a scapegoat built-in! When things go wrong, "Oh, that was Pacifist's responsibility, and he's since abandoned us. Sorry."
Well I mean, certain members of the staff team had suspicions that the man behind this account was Pacifist. That needed to be and has been taken care of.
Post by: Kakkun on Mon, 03 August 2015, 18:55:43
I bought this set (http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/cyrllic) from Originative a while back. Originative being what they are, they sent me two "I" keys and no "R" key.
Are there the same sets as this drop, and if so, would it be possible to purchase a single R key?
It looks like it's a different color:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/cIlAHyh.jpg)
However, it might just be the camera.
The Originative keys, I think, are a very light grey. What color are the keys for this drop? White?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 03 August 2015, 18:59:38
Hey everyone! This GB is special...it comes with a scapegoat built-in! When things go wrong, "Oh, that was Pacifist's responsibility, and he's since abandoned us. Sorry."
Well I mean, certain members of the staff team had suspicions that the man behind this account was Pacifist. That needed to be and has been taken care of.
Whoa, whoa. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. You responded to one PM, that does not constitute it having been "taken care of".
Post by: KappaKapps on Mon, 03 August 2015, 19:02:07
I bought this set (http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/cyrllic) from Originative a while back. Originative being what they are, they sent me two "I" keys and no "R" key.
Are there the same sets as this drop, and if so, would it be possible to purchase a single R key?
It looks like it's a different color:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/cIlAHyh.jpg)
However, it might just be the camera.
The Originative keys, I think, are a very light grey. What color are the keys for this drop? White?
The base is in the L9 shade:
(http://i.imgur.com/sXAxyeY.jpg)
The pics on Originative have it in a darker shade of grey, it's probably the camera. I'll send them an email to see.
Hey everyone! This GB is special...it comes with a scapegoat built-in! When things go wrong, "Oh, that was Pacifist's responsibility, and he's since abandoned us. Sorry."
Well I mean, certain members of the staff team had suspicions that the man behind this account was Pacifist. That needed to be and has been taken care of.
Whoa, whoa. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. You responded to one PM, that does not constitute it having been "taken care of".
Sorry, my misunderstanding. I've responded to multiple false allegations on the fourth page and provided the information the mods needed to confirm my identity. If you have any questions or need any more evidence feel free to message me on skype.
Post by: jackiecanev2 on Mon, 03 August 2015, 19:12:51
Hey everyone! This GB is special...it comes with a scapegoat built-in! When things go wrong, "Oh, that was Pacifist's responsibility, and he's since abandoned us. Sorry."
Well I mean, certain members of the staff team had suspicions that the man behind this account was Pacifist. That needed to be and has been taken care of.
Whoa, whoa. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. You responded to one PM, that does not constitute it having been "taken care of".
Seconded.
(Corrected.)
Post by: KappaKapps on Mon, 03 August 2015, 19:14:46
Our Paypal email is sales@kappaKapps.com and is linked to a legitimate bank account. In your image it is, sales@kappakaps.comHey everyone! This GB is special...it comes with a scapegoat built-in! When things go wrong, "Oh, that was Pacifist's responsibility, and he's since abandoned us. Sorry."
Well I mean, certain members of the staff team had suspicions that the man behind this account was Pacifist. That needed to be and has been taken care of.
Whoa, whoa. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. You responded to one PM, that does not constitute it having been "taken care of".
Seconded. Are you saying that two screenshots somehow remediate the fact that your PayPal address isn't even verified (read: linked to a legitimate bank account)?
Good luck to those of you who have sent money off to an unverified account.
(http://puu.sh/jon8Y/722f928946.png)
Anyone can check here:
https://www.paypal.com/verified/pal=sales@kappakapps.com
All our customers have received their orders according to USPS tracking.
Post by: Kakkun on Mon, 03 August 2015, 19:23:43
I bought this set (http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/cyrllic) from Originative a while back. Originative being what they are, they sent me two "I" keys and no "R" key.
Are there the same sets as this drop, and if so, would it be possible to purchase a single R key?
It looks like it's a different color:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/cIlAHyh.jpg)
However, it might just be the camera.
The Originative keys, I think, are a very light grey. What color are the keys for this drop? White?
The base is in the L9 shade:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/sXAxyeY.jpg)
The pics on Originative have it in a darker shade of grey, it's probably the camera. I'll send them an email to see.
Here are a couple of photos from my Originative Cyrillic set. Thanks for looking into this!
http://imgur.com/a/SP4Ng
Post by: KappaKapps on Mon, 03 August 2015, 19:29:45
No problem. Nice custom.I bought this set (http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/cyrllic) from Originative a while back. Originative being what they are, they sent me two "I" keys and no "R" key.
Are there the same sets as this drop, and if so, would it be possible to purchase a single R key?
It looks like it's a different color:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/cIlAHyh.jpg)
However, it might just be the camera.
The Originative keys, I think, are a very light grey. What color are the keys for this drop? White?
The base is in the L9 shade:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/sXAxyeY.jpg)
The pics on Originative have it in a darker shade of grey, it's probably the camera. I'll send them an email to see.
Here are a couple of photos from my Originative Cyrillic set. Thanks for looking into this!
http://imgur.com/a/SP4Ng
Those look like the L9 shade. I'll let you know when Originative responds. Were you thinking of picking up a whole set? It's pretty hard to sell individual keys in a groupbuy.
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 03 August 2015, 19:32:45
Hey everyone! This GB is special...it comes with a scapegoat built-in! When things go wrong, "Oh, that was Pacifist's responsibility, and he's since abandoned us. Sorry."
Well I mean, certain members of the staff team had suspicions that the man behind this account was Pacifist. That needed to be and has been taken care of.
Maybe you can answer these questions, then:
1. Why do you not list your physical address on your site? A rented mailbox address is not the same thing.
2. Why do you hide your domain registration?
3. Why have you always used Tor to connect to this forum?
4. Why do you say "team," when it is a team of only two people, one of them being Pacifist?
These things scream "shady" to me, as if you are hiding something. And until today, you certainly were. Foremost the fact that Andrew Wang was using this account to connect to Geekhack, when he was previously banned from the site.
Post by: KappaKapps on Mon, 03 August 2015, 19:37:03
Hey everyone! This GB is special...it comes with a scapegoat built-in! When things go wrong, "Oh, that was Pacifist's responsibility, and he's since abandoned us. Sorry."
Well I mean, certain members of the staff team had suspicions that the man behind this account was Pacifist. That needed to be and has been taken care of.
Maybe you can answer these questions, then:
1. Why do you not list your physical address on your site? A rented mailbox address is not the same thing.
2. Why do you hide your domain registration?
3. Why have you always used Tor to connect to this forum?
4. Why do you say "team," when it is a team of only two people, one of them being Pacifist?
These things scream "shady" to me, as if you are hiding something. And until today, you certainly were. Foremost the fact that Andrew Wang was using this account to connect to Geekhack, when he was previously banned from the site.
- I have my right to privacy correct? I don't have to publicly give out my address to the internet.
- The domain registration information can contain some sensitive information, including my personal address and phone number. If you have any concerns, I am willing to show a mod the DNS configuration.
- Answered this to u18. Tor was only used once, to my knowledge. You can look at the IPs of my posts, they change, but they are in the same location due to dynamic IP.
- This is false, Pacifist was one of our designers/consultants.
Post by: jackiecanev2 on Mon, 03 August 2015, 19:37:32
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 03 August 2015, 19:37:37
MoreOur Paypal email is sales@kappaKapps.com and is linked to a legitimate bank account. In your image it is, sales@kappakaps.comHey everyone! This GB is special...it comes with a scapegoat built-in! When things go wrong, "Oh, that was Pacifist's responsibility, and he's since abandoned us. Sorry."
Well I mean, certain members of the staff team had suspicions that the man behind this account was Pacifist. That needed to be and has been taken care of.
Whoa, whoa. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. You responded to one PM, that does not constitute it having been "taken care of".
Seconded. Are you saying that two screenshots somehow remediate the fact that your PayPal address isn't even verified (read: linked to a legitimate bank account)?
Good luck to those of you who have sent money off to an unverified account.Show Image(http://puu.sh/jon8Y/722f928946.png)
Anyone can check here:
https://www.paypal.com/verified/pal=sales@kappakapps.com
All our customers have received their orders according to USPS tracking.
I have no real stake in this, but that really doesn't prove that it is a separate entity from Pacifist/MGH.
My personal stance regarding group buys is that no one should be allowed to run one of this scope without first completing a smaller one successfully. I also feel that vendors should not run group buys where the buyers have to put the entire cost up front and if they do charge the group buy participants, they should add no more than 5% to the cost since they're leveraging a field of individuals to reduce their costs and risk.
Post by: KappaKapps on Mon, 03 August 2015, 19:40:30
I have given up other personal information to the mod team and offered to Skype for confirmation (which no one has taken my offer).MoreOur Paypal email is sales@kappaKapps.com and is linked to a legitimate bank account. In your image it is, sales@kappakaps.comHey everyone! This GB is special...it comes with a scapegoat built-in! When things go wrong, "Oh, that was Pacifist's responsibility, and he's since abandoned us. Sorry."
Well I mean, certain members of the staff team had suspicions that the man behind this account was Pacifist. That needed to be and has been taken care of.
Whoa, whoa. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. You responded to one PM, that does not constitute it having been "taken care of".
Seconded. Are you saying that two screenshots somehow remediate the fact that your PayPal address isn't even verified (read: linked to a legitimate bank account)?
Good luck to those of you who have sent money off to an unverified account.Show Image(http://puu.sh/jon8Y/722f928946.png)
Anyone can check here:
https://www.paypal.com/verified/pal=sales@kappakapps.com
All our customers have received their orders according to USPS tracking.
I have no real stake in this, but that really doesn't prove that it is a separate entity from Pacifist/MGH.
My personal stance regarding group buys is that no one should be allowed to run one of this scope without first completing a smaller one successfully. I also feel that vendors should not run group buys where the buyers have to put the entire cost up front and if they do charge the group buy participants, they should add no more than 5% to the cost since they're leveraging a field of individuals to reduce their costs and risk.
We will not be adding any headway/leverage over 3%. All costs that can be made transparent, will be made transparent. Any profits will be donated.
As for trust and the community, we've fulfilled many orders. Additionally, we have invested considerable amounts of money in sets on a previous GB.
Post by: jackiecanev2 on Mon, 03 August 2015, 19:46:15
I have my right to privacy correct? I don't have to publicly give out my address to the internet.
Actually, as an LLC, you do not - any CA business must have registered agent for service of process (which then becomes publicly available); PO Boxes may not be used, and a physical address must be provided.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 03 August 2015, 19:46:29
I have given up other personal information to the mod team and offered to Skype for confirmation (which no one has taken my offer).MoreOur Paypal email is sales@kappaKapps.com and is linked to a legitimate bank account. In your image it is, sales@kappakaps.comHey everyone! This GB is special...it comes with a scapegoat built-in! When things go wrong, "Oh, that was Pacifist's responsibility, and he's since abandoned us. Sorry."
Well I mean, certain members of the staff team had suspicions that the man behind this account was Pacifist. That needed to be and has been taken care of.
Whoa, whoa. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. You responded to one PM, that does not constitute it having been "taken care of".
Seconded. Are you saying that two screenshots somehow remediate the fact that your PayPal address isn't even verified (read: linked to a legitimate bank account)?
Good luck to those of you who have sent money off to an unverified account.Show Image(http://puu.sh/jon8Y/722f928946.png)
Anyone can check here:
https://www.paypal.com/verified/pal=sales@kappakapps.com
All our customers have received their orders according to USPS tracking.
I have no real stake in this, but that really doesn't prove that it is a separate entity from Pacifist/MGH.
My personal stance regarding group buys is that no one should be allowed to run one of this scope without first completing a smaller one successfully. I also feel that vendors should not run group buys where the buyers have to put the entire cost up front and if they do charge the group buy participants, they should add no more than 5% to the cost since they're leveraging a field of individuals to reduce their costs and risk.
We will not be adding any headway/leverage over 3%. All costs that can be made transparent, will be made transparent. Any profits will be donated.
As for trust and the community, we've fulfilled many orders. Additionally, we have invested considerable amounts of money in sets on a previous GB.
Why have you registered as a vendor if all your profits will be donated?
And please don't say no one took you up as if that means there are no further questions. Speaking for myself, I'm on my phone and just trying to follow this whole ordeal. I'm not interested in gathering additional info via Skype at this time.
Post by: KappaKapps on Mon, 03 August 2015, 19:58:09
PM'd for the first question.I have given up other personal information to the mod team and offered to Skype for confirmation (which no one has taken my offer).MoreOur Paypal email is sales@kappaKapps.com and is linked to a legitimate bank account. In your image it is, sales@kappakaps.comHey everyone! This GB is special...it comes with a scapegoat built-in! When things go wrong, "Oh, that was Pacifist's responsibility, and he's since abandoned us. Sorry."
Well I mean, certain members of the staff team had suspicions that the man behind this account was Pacifist. That needed to be and has been taken care of.
Whoa, whoa. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. You responded to one PM, that does not constitute it having been "taken care of".
Seconded. Are you saying that two screenshots somehow remediate the fact that your PayPal address isn't even verified (read: linked to a legitimate bank account)?
Good luck to those of you who have sent money off to an unverified account.Show Image(http://puu.sh/jon8Y/722f928946.png)
Anyone can check here:
https://www.paypal.com/verified/pal=sales@kappakapps.com
All our customers have received their orders according to USPS tracking.
I have no real stake in this, but that really doesn't prove that it is a separate entity from Pacifist/MGH.
My personal stance regarding group buys is that no one should be allowed to run one of this scope without first completing a smaller one successfully. I also feel that vendors should not run group buys where the buyers have to put the entire cost up front and if they do charge the group buy participants, they should add no more than 5% to the cost since they're leveraging a field of individuals to reduce their costs and risk.
We will not be adding any headway/leverage over 3%. All costs that can be made transparent, will be made transparent. Any profits will be donated.
As for trust and the community, we've fulfilled many orders. Additionally, we have invested considerable amounts of money in sets on a previous GB.
Why have you registered as a vendor if all your profits will be donated?
And please don't say no one took you up as if that means there are no further questions. Speaking for myself, I'm on my phone and just trying to follow this whole ordeal. I'm not interested in gathering additional info via Skype at this time.
I didn't mean to say that there are no further questions. I meant to say that there are still claims being made by the community from looking at other sources, while it would be easy to skype and see.
Post by: KHAANNN on Mon, 03 August 2015, 21:23:47
I hope the same goes for KappaKapps, and these all turn out to be mostly concerns
I will say this tho, the charity thing lighted a yellow flag in my mind, at the time, I deducted there was probably one artisan manufacturer behind KappaKapps that does this for mostly fun and donates the profits to charity, but combined with these accusations, something as kind as donating becomes suspicious -- also, logically speaking, it would be stupid for a company in US to make actual profit, as the taxes are extreme
Anyway, whatever the case, I'm currently choosing to trust you, if you are indeed an ~honest seller, just endure this process and establish trust slowly, if not, I guess I only have $110 to lose :)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 04 August 2015, 02:19:40
Are PayPal protections not in place for a buy like this? If they take the money and run, doesn't PayPal back up the buyer? If you're interested in this set, does that not give you protection? I'm asking because it seems like people aren't taking that part of it into account.
Edit: just want to make clear that I don't know anymore than anyone else and I'm not vouching for Kappakaps in any way. I'm simply posting my own reasoning, and if I'm wrong somewhere please point that out.
Post by: KHAANNN on Tue, 04 August 2015, 02:36:27
Alright Mr. Yang. So you're saying YANG WANG right?
This name stuff is pretty confusing, at first I thought you were being a bit racist, but I'm guessing there was an "Andrew WANG", KappaKapps is "Andrew Yang" as he disclosed, and this "Andrew WANG" individual is the Pacifist that everyone seem to hate?
"So you're saying YANG WANG right?" -> what did you mean by this? (as it is, without context, it seems a bit offensive)
I read the conversation, but I couldn't pinpoint where the Yang/Wang stuff came up from
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 04 August 2015, 08:16:31
- I have my right to privacy correct? I don't have to publicly give out my address to the internet.
- The domain registration information can contain some sensitive information, including my personal address and phone number. If you have any concerns, I am willing to show a mod the DNS configuration.
- Answered this to u18. Tor was only used once, to my knowledge. You can look at the IPs of my posts, they change, but they are in the same location due to dynamic IP.
- This is false, Pacifist was one of our designers/consultants.
Do you have a right to privacy? Not exactly, no. Not as a business/vendor you don't. Businesses are normally required to list their physical address when registering with the state, and those records are available for public inspection. Speaking of which, you represent yourself as an LLC on your site, but there is no LLC named KappaKapps registered in the state of California.
And according to your statements on reddit and your interview, the KappaKapps "team" consisted of yourself, (who I assume I am addressing) Andrew Yang, and Pacifist, Andrew Wang. You can stop with the routine of "Pacifist was one of our designers/consultants."
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 04 August 2015, 08:22:45
I've been around for a bit, and Kappakaps does not seem to act like Pacifist. I mean, when was he ever able to hold his temper this long? When was he ever this forthcoming? He acted like a total turd in his FS threads and the one about the avatars.
Remember when he came back as MGH? The general consensus was that his attitude changed for the better, but hiding behind a duplicate account and pretending to be a new member did not sit well with the community. I remember quite a few members saying that if he had just asked to come back, stating a change of heart, they would have had no issues with it.
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 04 August 2015, 08:28:26
Are PayPal protections not in place for a buy like this? If they take the money and run, doesn't PayPal back up the buyer? If you're interested in this set, does that not give you protection? I'm asking because it seems like people aren't taking that part of it into account.
But what if the timeline for the group buy goes over the timeline allotted for making a claim? It happens frequently (DrugER, etc.). Then you can only trust the seller to deliver as promised.
Post by: BrewCaps on Tue, 04 August 2015, 13:25:11
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 04 August 2015, 13:28:20
Can you people grow the **** up and stop threadcrapping this Group Buy.
Does this place have any moderators?
Whine much?
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 04 August 2015, 13:31:26
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 04 August 2015, 13:38:28
Does this place have any moderators?
I know you removed this, but yes, this place does have moderators. Hence all the discussion above.
It is not threadcrapping to bring up valid concerns about a potential banned member attempting to run a group buy, and frankly I'm not sure how you see it as such.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 04 August 2015, 13:39:43
Does this place have any moderators?
I know you removed this, but yes, this place does have moderators. Hence all the discussion above.
It is not threadcrapping to bring up valid concerns about a potential banned member attempting to run a group buy, and frankly I'm not sure how you see it as such.
Maybe he's another banned member :o
PS: this interview is relevant https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RX6ysvYh67GCdlg7x_VYU3uldxJGYjjQMNe5xAAA6Bk/ we see the two members of kappkapps are partners one AY and one AW thats not exactly the way the relationship has been described in this thread ::)
Post by: 64rky on Tue, 04 August 2015, 15:29:22
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 04 August 2015, 15:44:10
Post by: Ngt on Tue, 04 August 2015, 16:20:05
I just love how people these days line up to throw money at something, with little regard to the integrity of who is selling. Apathy at its finest.
Unfortunately I agree with you.
Post by: 64rky on Tue, 04 August 2015, 16:32:12
I just love how people these days line up to throw money at something, with little regard to the integrity of who is selling. Apathy at its finest.
Unfortunately I agree with you.
Is it bad that I want cyrillic caps? I don't know what to think at this point?
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 04 August 2015, 16:36:29
It's just that you are willing to place your money, pretty much no questions asked, into hands of someone who has been previously banned, whether it is in his hands directly, or association with him. Also, why was LZ banned if he had association with Team Redline, but KappaKaps isn't when he is in association w/ Pacifist? I don't necessarily agree w/ banning him, but I also think that if he had asked for a second chance, Pacifist would have gotten one.I just love how people these days line up to throw money at something, with little regard to the integrity of who is selling. Apathy at its finest.
Unfortunately I agree with you.
Is it bad that I want cyrillic caps? I don't know what to think at this point?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 04 August 2015, 16:41:01
It's just that you are willing to place your money, pretty much no questions asked, into hands of someone who has been previously banned, whether it is in his hands directly, or association with him. Also, why was LZ banned if he had association with Team Redline, but KappaKaps isn't when he is in association w/ Pacifist? I don't necessarily agree w/ banning him, but I also think that if he had asked for a second chance, Pacifist would have gotten one.I just love how people these days line up to throw money at something, with little regard to the integrity of who is selling. Apathy at its finest.
Unfortunately I agree with you.
Is it bad that I want cyrillic caps? I don't know what to think at this point?
Druger committed a criminal offense. It's an entirely different situation, and involves very real implications off-forum. Pacifist's situation was kept within the confines of our forum, and was a ToS violation. We would never ban people for mere affiliation with a banned member (I would have to ban myself if that was the case).
Post by: Ngt on Tue, 04 August 2015, 16:41:22
I just love how people these days line up to throw money at something, with little regard to the integrity of who is selling. Apathy at its finest.
Unfortunately I agree with you.
Is it bad that I want cyrillic caps? I don't know what to think at this point?
Wanting the caps is nothing bad as far as I'm concerned, they are beautiful and deserve your love. The problem (to me again) is wanting it even though you could get scam for it and even if you don't get scam, if he's a scammer you'd be acknowledging him on that matter. Pretty much like saying: "I don't care how bad you are and behave with our community, you'll always get my money.". I think that's what JD meant on his last post or at least that's how I interpreted it. I like to be the more responsible as I can as a consumer (personal ethic and all of that). Don't misinterpret me, I'm not spitting on you or whatnot just expressing my thought and how I feel about it. You may have a different point of view than mine, that's perfectly ok. But I can express my disagreement.
Post by: 64rky on Tue, 04 August 2015, 17:23:07
I just love how people these days line up to throw money at something, with little regard to the integrity of who is selling. Apathy at its finest.
Unfortunately I agree with you.
Is it bad that I want cyrillic caps? I don't know what to think at this point?
Wanting the caps is nothing bad as far as I'm concerned, they are beautiful and deserve your love. The problem (to me again) is wanting it even though you could get scam for it and even if you don't get scam, if he's a scammer you'd be acknowledging him on that matter. Pretty much like saying: "I don't care how bad you are and behave with our community, you'll always get my money.". I think that's what JD meant on his last post or at least that's how I interpreted it. I like to be the more responsible as I can as a consumer (personal ethic and all of that). Don't misinterpret me, I'm not spitting on you or whatnot just expressing my thought and how I feel about it. You may have a different point of view than mine, that's perfectly ok. But I can express my disagreement.
well, not here to cause vibes, will wait for someone else to do the GB. I'll remove myself from this IC for the time being then.
before I do, are these GMK?: http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/cyrllic
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 04 August 2015, 17:24:50
are these GMK?: http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/cyrllic
Yes, those are GMK.
Post by: 64rky on Tue, 04 August 2015, 17:27:03
are these GMK?: http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/cyrllic
Yes, those are GMK.
AWESOME thanks! Problem solved....! But, how do you know they're GMK, is that just a think of Originative?
Post by: jbondeson on Tue, 04 August 2015, 17:27:41
well, not here to cause vibes, will wait for someone else to do the GB. I'll remove myself from this IC for the time being then.
before I do, are these GMK?: http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/cyrllic
Yes, but it should be mentioned that Originative lost their vendor status for failure to ship product. Some people have had better luck recently, but I thought I should mention it.
Post by: 64rky on Tue, 04 August 2015, 17:33:44
well, not here to cause vibes, will wait for someone else to do the GB. I'll remove myself from this IC for the time being then.
before I do, are these GMK?: http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/cyrllic
Yes, but it should be mentioned that Originative lost their vendor status for failure to ship product. Some people have had better luck recently, but I thought I should mention it.
I just got my CMYK and RGB from massdrop, which seem to have Originative Stickers on... is everything from them GMK, how do you tell what is or isn't? or should I not bother with them either? this is so confusing.
Post by: jbondeson on Tue, 04 August 2015, 17:39:22
I just got my CMYK and RGB from massdrop, which seem to have Originative Stickers on... is everything from them GMK, how do you tell what is or isn't? or should I not bother with them either? this is so confusing.
They've been selling a lot of their stock recently through Massdrop after they had issues last year with delivery.
Not everything they sell is GMK, their PBT sets are from BSP, but I believe most of their stock is GMK.
Frankly, all recent reports are that they're fulfilling all new orders, I just wanted to let you know what has happened in the past. Internet businesses being the Wild West and all...
Post by: Ngt on Tue, 04 August 2015, 17:56:55
I just love how people these days line up to throw money at something, with little regard to the integrity of who is selling. Apathy at its finest.
Unfortunately I agree with you.
Is it bad that I want cyrillic caps? I don't know what to think at this point?
Wanting the caps is nothing bad as far as I'm concerned, they are beautiful and deserve your love. The problem (to me again) is wanting it even though you could get scam for it and even if you don't get scam, if he's a scammer you'd be acknowledging him on that matter. Pretty much like saying: "I don't care how bad you are and behave with our community, you'll always get my money.". I think that's what JD meant on his last post or at least that's how I interpreted it. I like to be the more responsible as I can as a consumer (personal ethic and all of that). Don't misinterpret me, I'm not spitting on you or whatnot just expressing my thought and how I feel about it. You may have a different point of view than mine, that's perfectly ok. But I can express my disagreement.
well, not here to cause vibes, will wait for someone else to do the GB. I'll remove myself from this IC for the time being then.
before I do, are these GMK?: http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/cyrllic (http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/cyrllic)
I don't think you'll be causing vibes for ordering from this GB if it ever goes to live. You'll be the one taking the responsibility of engaging yourself in the transaction hence if you have troubles that's mostly on you (and the seller of course) as you got warned. I don't think people would look you down for ordering on it, at least I won't. :) I hope you didn't perceive me as aggressive as it was definitely not my intent.
I just got my CMYK and RGB from massdrop, which seem to have Originative Stickers on... is everything from them GMK, how do you tell what is or isn't? or should I not bother with them either? this is so confusing.
They've been selling a lot of their stock recently through Massdrop after they had issues last year with delivery.
Not everything they sell is GMK, their PBT sets are from BSP, but I believe most of their stock is GMK.
Frankly, all recent reports are that they're fulfilling all new orders, I just wanted to let you know what has happened in the past. Internet businesses being the Wild West and all...
From what I have heard, from time to time they just don't fulfill their order and stop giving any sign of activity. Then they just reappear and start taking order again without fulfilling their previous obligations though. I have been advised not to order from them as they have proven themselves untrustworthy in many occasions. In the end it is your call if you want to take the risk, just know that some lost their money at it and some didn't.
EDIT: typo.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 04 August 2015, 20:58:42
well, not here to cause vibes, will wait for someone else to do the GB. I'll remove myself from this IC for the time being then.
before I do, are these GMK?: http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/cyrllic
Yes, but it should be mentioned that Originative lost their vendor status for failure to ship product. Some people have had better luck recently, but I thought I should mention it.
I just got my CMYK and RGB from massdrop, which seem to have Originative Stickers on... is everything from them GMK, how do you tell what is or isn't? or should I not bother with them either? this is so confusing.
The rumor that I heard was that someone else was fulfilling orders recently, and that's why they're actually going out. YMMV, and I would always proceed with caution when dealing with Originative. As jbondeson mentioned, there is a good reason they lost vendor status.
I believe that almost all (if not all) of their ABS sets are from GMK. Again jbondeson is correct that they've sold some BSP PBT sets and perhaps sets from other suppliers that I'm not recalling at this time. I don't know of a good way to know for sure where their sets are from. I just happen to own that set you linked (purchased second hand, as I avoid Originative) so I knew about that one.
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Tue, 04 August 2015, 20:59:38
scoops bruh! :thumb:are these GMK?: http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/cyrllic
Yes, those are GMK.
AWESOME thanks! Problem solved....! But, how do you know they're GMK, is that just a think of Originative?
Post by: effectiveduck on Tue, 04 August 2015, 21:34:44
So why not wait until after that to run this GB, if everyone's happy with how that was handled? Or would that not be enough? I honestly haven't been around for it to know enough.
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 04 August 2015, 21:49:52
Seems like even if this goes to GB stage it's not going to reach MOQ with all this drama, maybe waiting to see how kappa handles the blue mods will give the community a bit of a confidence boost in him? If he fulfills his role correctly that is.He is buying 250 sets straight up, he is just checking how interested people are for it.
So why not wait until after that to run this GB, if everyone's happy with how that was handled? Or would that not be enough? I honestly haven't been around for it to know enough.
Post by: effectiveduck on Tue, 04 August 2015, 22:01:03
Oh, well then I'm not sure, I'd probably feel comfortable if he had some kind of proof of purchase.Seems like even if this goes to GB stage it's not going to reach MOQ with all this drama, maybe waiting to see how kappa handles the blue mods will give the community a bit of a confidence boost in him? If he fulfills his role correctly that is.He is buying 250 sets straight up, he is just checking how interested people are for it.
So why not wait until after that to run this GB, if everyone's happy with how that was handled? Or would that not be enough? I honestly haven't been around for it to know enough.
Post by: KappaKapps on Tue, 04 August 2015, 22:02:59
Alright Mr. Yang. So you're saying YANG WANG right?
This name stuff is pretty confusing, at first I thought you were being a bit racist, but I'm guessing there was an "Andrew WANG", KappaKapps is "Andrew Yang" as he disclosed, and this "Andrew WANG" individual is the Pacifist that everyone seem to hate?
"So you're saying YANG WANG right?" -> what did you mean by this? (as it is, without context, it seems a bit offensive)
I read the conversation, but I couldn't pinpoint where the Yang/Wang stuff came up from
Yes. This is correct, it is 2 different people. Pacifist (Wang) was hired as a consultant/designer. Because he was banned for multiple accounts, we did not think it would be a problem since we did not give him access to our GeekHack.
Does this place have any moderators?
I know you removed this, but yes, this place does have moderators. Hence all the discussion above.
It is not threadcrapping to bring up valid concerns about a potential banned member attempting to run a group buy, and frankly I'm not sure how you see it as such.
Maybe he's another banned member :o
PS: this interview is relevant https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RX6ysvYh67GCdlg7x_VYU3uldxJGYjjQMNe5xAAA6Bk/ we see the two members of kappkapps are partners one AY and one AW thats not exactly the way the relationship has been described in this thread ::)
In that interview we stated we were working with other designers. Personally, I don't think it's fair to base the number of people in a business/project based off of a single interview.
The snippet at the top was not written by us, but the editor of the interview.
For example, an interview with Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak does not mean that Jobs and Wozniak are the sole members of a company.
Secondly, the word "partner" was only mentioned once in the whole interview and was used in a joking manner. It's probably easier to say you are working with X person, as opposed to X person is one of our designers/consultants. There are other members of the team, and I would be happy to introduce the mod team or you to them.
Seems like even if this goes to GB stage it's not going to reach MOQ with all this drama, maybe waiting to see how kappa handles the blue mods will give the community a bit of a confidence boost in him? If he fulfills his role correctly that is.
So why not wait until after that to run this GB, if everyone's happy with how that was handled? Or would that not be enough? I honestly haven't been around for it to know enough.
While we understand that there may be trust issues, most of the allegations made in the thread are by people who have not dealt with us financially.
We've never missed an order(I can give proof to mods). But, you might say "those are only artisans, what about large volume?" In that case, we've tipped billnye's Electric Bluegaloo groupbuy considerably. (175+ sets and 600+ ESC keys). If we were to scam, why would we have invested this amount of money into the GB community?
Understandably there still may be trust issues, thus we are planning to instate a "pay half now, pay half after you receive" type of deal. Currently we are working on the logistics/system of this (perhaps middleman).
The bottom line is: We trust you, the consumer, to use your best judgement in making decisions for this GB.
Post by: effectiveduck on Tue, 04 August 2015, 22:23:17
"pay half now, pay half after you receive" type of deal. Currently we are working on the logistics/system of this (perhaps middleman).
Could you give us some more details on this? Do you mean that if we join a GB for an item that costs $50 we would only have to upfront $25 and pay another $25 when we receive the item?
Post by: KappaKapps on Tue, 04 August 2015, 22:26:32
"pay half now, pay half after you receive" type of deal. Currently we are working on the logistics/system of this (perhaps middleman).
Could you give us some more details on this? Do you mean that if we join a GB for an item that costs $50 we would only have to upfront $25 and pay another $25 when we receive the item?
Yes that is correct. We are still in the process of coordinating this. There is also a burden of trust that lies on the consumer: paying the $25 after receiving the item. As for trusting us, I have already reiterated it many times that we have invested large quantities of $$$ into the GB community. But that is ultimately up to you.
Another possibility is to pay $25 upfront and pay $25 when the keycaps are shipped out. We can provide pictures/videos of the keycaps/trays being packaged.
Post by: jackiecanev2 on Wed, 05 August 2015, 00:50:55
Seems like even if this goes to GB stage it's not going to reach MOQ with all this drama, maybe waiting to see how kappa handles the blue mods will give the community a bit of a confidence boost in him? If he fulfills his role correctly that is.He is buying 250 sets straight up, he is just checking how interested people are for it.
So why not wait until after that to run this GB, if everyone's happy with how that was handled? Or would that not be enough? I honestly haven't been around for it to know enough.
If this is the case, then it will be a non-issue. KappaKapps (LLC? has that been proven sufficiently as an outright lie at this point?) will purchase the sets up front, and then sell them in the KappaKapps store like any other internet store. There is no "group buy" necessary in this scenario - it is simply a seller selling inventory.
If KappaKapps wants money for "pre-orders," facilitated through GH - well, that is a different story entirely.
Post by: jonathanyu on Wed, 05 August 2015, 00:58:20
Seems like even if this goes to GB stage it's not going to reach MOQ with all this drama, maybe waiting to see how kappa handles the blue mods will give the community a bit of a confidence boost in him? If he fulfills his role correctly that is.He is buying 250 sets straight up, he is just checking how interested people are for it.
So why not wait until after that to run this GB, if everyone's happy with how that was handled? Or would that not be enough? I honestly haven't been around for it to know enough.
If this is the case, then it will be a non-issue. KappaKapps (LLC? has that been proven sufficiently as an outright lie at this point?) will purchase the sets up front, and then sell them in the KappaKapps store like any other internet store. There is no "group buy" necessary in this scenario - it is simply a seller selling inventory.
If KappaKapps wants money for "pre-orders," facilitated through GH - well, that is a different story entirely.
sounds like another originative
Post by: tbc on Wed, 05 August 2015, 01:01:26
I've been around for a bit, and Kappakaps does not seem to act like Pacifist. I mean, when was he ever able to hold his temper this long? When was he ever this forthcoming? He acted like a total turd in his FS threads and the one about the avatars.
Are PayPal protections not in place for a buy like this? If they take the money and run, doesn't PayPal back up the buyer? If you're interested in this set, does that not give you protection? I'm asking because it seems like people aren't taking that part of it into account.
Edit: just want to make clear that I don't know anymore than anyone else and I'm not vouching for Kappakaps in any way. I'm simply posting my own reasoning, and if I'm wrong somewhere please point that out.
well...as someone who uses a tablet and doesn't have the poster id info visible...reading his posts did force me to dblchk who was posting cause i didn't realize paci was back
obvsly this isn't proof, but it's not exactly helpful to his case either.
Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 05 August 2015, 01:06:50
I've been around for a bit, and Kappakaps does not seem to act like Pacifist. I mean, when was he ever able to hold his temper this long? When was he ever this forthcoming? He acted like a total turd in his FS threads and the one about the avatars.
Are PayPal protections not in place for a buy like this? If they take the money and run, doesn't PayPal back up the buyer? If you're interested in this set, does that not give you protection? I'm asking because it seems like people aren't taking that part of it into account.
Edit: just want to make clear that I don't know anymore than anyone else and I'm not vouching for Kappakaps in any way. I'm simply posting my own reasoning, and if I'm wrong somewhere please point that out.
well...as someone who uses a tablet and doesn't have the poster id info visible...reading his posts did force me to dblchk who was posting cause i didn't realize paci was back
obvsly this isn't proof, but it's not exactly helpful to his case either.
Ah, so you think it does sound like him? Interesting. I guess I was wrong.
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 05 August 2015, 02:06:35
"pay half now, pay half after you receive" type of deal. Currently we are working on the logistics/system of this (perhaps middleman).
Could you give us some more details on this? Do you mean that if we join a GB for an item that costs $50 we would only have to upfront $25 and pay another $25 when we receive the item?
Yes that is correct. We are still in the process of coordinating this. There is also a burden of trust that lies on the consumer: paying the $25 after receiving the item. As for trusting us, I have already reiterated it many times that we have invested large quantities of $$$ into the GB community. But that is ultimately up to you.
Another possibility is to pay $25 upfront and pay $25 when the keycaps are shipped out. We can provide pictures/videos of the keycaps/trays being packaged.
While this sounds fair, the risk for the buyer is still there. There is just too much controversy in this thread. Maybe all these accusations are not justified - who knows - but I won't blindly ignore all the signs of a potential **** up. Geekhack has seen too many of these...
At this point I'd prefer this thing to be a pure vendor sale and not a GB.
If you order the caps up front and sell them with a fair markup, I think this can still be successful :thumb:
Post by: Manchias on Wed, 05 August 2015, 03:39:25
I don't give a **** about what happened in the past, his effort to clear the name is enough to me.
Post by: KappaKapps on Wed, 05 August 2015, 21:34:17
Have just placed an order some ESC keys from http://www.kappakapps.com/
I don't give a **** about what happened in the past, his effort to clear the name is enough to me.
Responded to your order inquiries. Lemme know if you need to change something.
Post by: billnye on Thu, 06 August 2015, 20:00:34
I don't really understand why people think they are here to scam or try to rip people off when they have already invested a significant amount of money in my group buy and the time it takes to create a website and store. From my interaction with them, they have been straightforward and gave me no reason not to trust them.
Also, I can confirm that Andrew Wang and Andrew Yang are two separate people. I have spoken to them in a Skype chat simultaneously and can confirm their names are just unfortunately similar :)).
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 06 August 2015, 20:06:05
I know I'm a little late to the party, but figured I would post something since I've been in contact with KappaKapps over the past few months.Whatever gets you your MOQ. :thumb:
I don't really understand why people think they are here to scam or try to rip people off when they have already invested a significant amount of money in my group buy and the time it takes to create a website and store. From my interaction with them, they have been straightforward and gave me no reason not to trust them.
Also, I can confirm that Andrew Wang and Andrew Yang are two separate people. I have spoken to them in a Skype chat simultaneously and can confirm their names are just unfortunately similar :)).
Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 06 August 2015, 20:09:04
He didn't need KappaKaps to get MOQ. It was a rather successful GB, and it was probably due to the BroBots, as well as how nice it goes with Dolch.I know I'm a little late to the party, but figured I would post something since I've been in contact with KappaKapps over the past few months.Whatever gets you your MOQ. :thumb:
I don't really understand why people think they are here to scam or try to rip people off when they have already invested a significant amount of money in my group buy and the time it takes to create a website and store. From my interaction with them, they have been straightforward and gave me no reason not to trust them.
Also, I can confirm that Andrew Wang and Andrew Yang are two separate people. I have spoken to them in a Skype chat simultaneously and can confirm their names are just unfortunately similar :)).
Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 06 August 2015, 22:38:11
Edit: doh, should have refreshed page first haha
Post by: katushkin on Sat, 08 August 2015, 17:23:19
Can I still get a set of these?
I'm in on Classic Beige and CMYK, so if I don't get these, I may die.
Post by: KappaKapps on Sat, 08 August 2015, 17:50:25
Soooooooo...
Can I still get a set of these?
I'm in on Classic Beige and CMYK, so if I don't get these, I may die.
We plan on conducting the group buy. However, at the moment, our verification is pending with the mods.
Post by: katushkin on Sat, 08 August 2015, 17:52:55
Soooooooo...
Can I still get a set of these?
I'm in on Classic Beige and CMYK, so if I don't get these, I may die.
We plan on conducting the group buy. However, at the moment, our verification is pending with the mods.
Well if it's delayed, that's perfect. Gives me time to save for it :) I really hope it happens :)
Post by: KappaKapps on Sat, 08 August 2015, 17:57:51
Sounds good. Be sure to sign up on the google form too. We will be sending an email to everyone there when the GB starts.Soooooooo...
Can I still get a set of these?
I'm in on Classic Beige and CMYK, so if I don't get these, I may die.
We plan on conducting the group buy. However, at the moment, our verification is pending with the mods.
Well if it's delayed, that's perfect. Gives me time to save for it :) I really hope it happens :)
Post by: katushkin on Sat, 08 August 2015, 18:31:31
Sounds good. Be sure to sign up on the google form too. We will be sending an email to everyone there when the GB starts.
Apparently I have already :)
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 08 August 2015, 18:39:04
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 08 August 2015, 19:07:38
Seems like even if this goes to GB stage it's not going to reach MOQ with all this drama, maybe waiting to see how kappa handles the blue mods will give the community a bit of a confidence boost in him? If he fulfills his role correctly that is.He is buying 250 sets straight up, he is just checking how interested people are for it.
So why not wait until after that to run this GB, if everyone's happy with how that was handled? Or would that not be enough? I honestly haven't been around for it to know enough.
Soooooooo...
Can I still get a set of these?
I'm in on Classic Beige and CMYK, so if I don't get these, I may die.
We plan on conducting the group buy. However, at the moment, our verification is pending with the mods.
So is kappakapps buying 250 sets to sell or is it a group buy?
Post by: KappaKapps on Sat, 08 August 2015, 19:13:19
Groupbuy. We have the potential to tip the groupbuy if it's close to the MOQ. Added you on skype if you have any further questions.Seems like even if this goes to GB stage it's not going to reach MOQ with all this drama, maybe waiting to see how kappa handles the blue mods will give the community a bit of a confidence boost in him? If he fulfills his role correctly that is.He is buying 250 sets straight up, he is just checking how interested people are for it.
So why not wait until after that to run this GB, if everyone's happy with how that was handled? Or would that not be enough? I honestly haven't been around for it to know enough.Soooooooo...
Can I still get a set of these?
I'm in on Classic Beige and CMYK, so if I don't get these, I may die.
We plan on conducting the group buy. However, at the moment, our verification is pending with the mods.
So is kappakapps buying 250 sets to sell or is it a group buy?
Post by: Giorgio on Sun, 09 August 2015, 04:09:48
Post by: turboloser on Sun, 09 August 2015, 04:29:49
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 09 August 2015, 04:32:40
I like the TKL and I really want some trays, lol.
Are you aware of the GMK Triumph Adler GB?
Those trays don't seem to be any good. They might be suitable for storage, but definitely not for shipping...
Post by: turboloser on Sun, 09 August 2015, 04:46:37
I fully intend to use them for storage and nothing else.
Post by: Ngt on Sun, 09 August 2015, 05:26:28
Yup! Thanks for the head's up though. ;DI think the problem is that they either come in trays or in bags. You have to order trays separately if you want to have some AFAIK.
I fully intend to use them for storage and nothing else.
Post by: Giorgio on Sun, 09 August 2015, 06:55:20
I like the TKL and I really want some trays, lol.
Are you aware of the GMK Triumph Adler GB?
Those trays don't seem to be any good. They might be suitable for storage, but definitely not for shipping...
Post by: wlhlm on Sun, 09 August 2015, 07:26:28
I think the trays aren't sufficient for shipping, even after you've taped the two tray pieces together all around the edges. The keycaps still sit very loose and the plastic nubs that hold the halves in the middle (between H and J for example) aren't tight either and can slide off.They are good, they just need to be closed with more tape, is smaller boxes.I like the TKL and I really want some trays, lol.
Are you aware of the GMK Triumph Adler GB?
Those trays don't seem to be any good. They might be suitable for storage, but definitely not for shipping...
I shook the tray holding it with both hands and the keys nonetheless began to slide into other rows and/or above each other. Similar to what madhias got:
(http://i.imgur.com/jewZeXs.jpg)
Ideally, you want something that holds the caps by their stems like the EK trays (https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=us104_case):
(https://elitekeyboards.com/proddata/images/th/mx_case_iso1000_th0x0.jpg)
Post by: swimmingbird on Sun, 09 August 2015, 07:38:27
I think the trays aren't sufficient for shipping, even after you've taped the two tray pieces together all around the edges. The keycaps still sit very loose and the plastic nubs that hold the halves in the middle (between H and J for example) aren't tight either and can slide off.They are good, they just need to be closed with more tape, is smaller boxes.I like the TKL and I really want some trays, lol.
Are you aware of the GMK Triumph Adler GB?
Those trays don't seem to be any good. They might be suitable for storage, but definitely not for shipping...
I shook the tray holding it with both hands and the keys nonetheless began to slide into other rows and/or above each other. Similar to what madhias got:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jewZeXs.jpg)
Ideally, you want something that holds the caps by their stems like the EK trays (https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=us104_case):Show Image(https://elitekeyboards.com/proddata/images/th/mx_case_iso1000_th0x0.jpg)
I'd get them if they ever came back in stock :'(
Post by: Jokrik on Sun, 09 August 2015, 08:37:24
Keep it up :)
Post by: KnivesM on Sun, 09 August 2015, 12:52:51
Post by: DVH on Mon, 10 August 2015, 12:34:36
Post by: Orca on Sun, 16 August 2015, 01:01:09
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 16 August 2015, 01:24:00
Red Modifiers with black legends would be better. Just a thought....
Well that's clearly personal preference.
In my opinion white on red looks better and I think looking at Geekhack's history most people prefer the Red Alert color scheme.
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 16 August 2015, 02:56:34
This is a really good design lay-out and keeping it a majority in Red is nice. Really distinctive when it comes to offering a unique Cyrillic Key-set, hope this goes through soon.
Post by: deci on Mon, 17 August 2015, 04:56:18
Post by: Jokrik on Mon, 17 August 2015, 06:50:31
Post by: KappaKapps on Mon, 17 August 2015, 08:58:01
Any updates on this?
The Cyrillics and trays will go through.
We will have a reward and unlock system, expect the GB in a few days.
Post by: Giorgio on Mon, 17 August 2015, 10:10:44
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74545.0;all (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74545.0;all)
Post by: katushkin on Mon, 17 August 2015, 10:13:32
Any updates on this?
The Cyrillics and trays will go through.
We will have a reward and unlock system, expect the GB in a few days.
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I just hope we meet MOQ
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 17 August 2015, 10:39:44
We will have a reward and unlock system.
Can you please elaborate on this? How is this gonna work?
Post by: KappaKapps on Mon, 17 August 2015, 10:54:35
(http://i.imgur.com/lwI8Nv1.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/nOA2vYv.png)
Please check out the inspiration for our design (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74079.0).
The more keysets you buy, the more free stuff you get.We will have a reward and unlock system.
Can you please elaborate on this? How is this gonna work?
The more keysets that are bought in the group buy, the more free stuff everyone gets.
Free stuff being trays, artisan keycaps, esc keys, and blue mods. Exact details will be released with the GB.
As for the GB, we have gotten the OK from mods to run it.
Post by: jonathanyu on Mon, 17 August 2015, 18:45:52
Post by: KappaKapps on Mon, 17 August 2015, 21:14:57
what will be the price for the cyrillic alphas?Around $60
Post by: Karura on Tue, 18 August 2015, 02:38:32
Help spread the word!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Z0t0Gde.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rjEAnI3.png)
Nice banner! Looks EXACTLY lke the SKIDATA+ one, even down to the message ;)
(http://i.imgur.com/20vZt1L.png)
Glad the team behind SKIDATA+ could be an inspiration. You know what they say,
I guess it's too difficult for a couple of minors, one with a history of scamming and compulsive lying, to come up with their own design ideas.
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 18 August 2015, 03:59:32
I guess it's too difficult for a couple of minors, one with a history of scamming and compulsive lying, to come up with their own design ideas.
What's this all about, another MiTo like transgression here?
I thought as older people here everyone would start behaving nicely towards one another and not start acting like schoolies in the play ground.
Post by: effectiveduck on Tue, 18 August 2015, 04:22:16
Glad the team behind SKIDATA+ could be an inspiration. You know what they say,imitationplagiarsm is the sincerest form of flattery. :-*
plagiarsm
Jesus Christ.
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 18 August 2015, 06:22:05
I guess it's too difficult for a couple of minors, one with a history of scamming and compulsive lying, to come up with their own design ideas.
What's this all about, another MiTo like transgression here?
I thought as older people here everyone would start behaving nicely towards one another and not start acting like schoolies in the play ground.
Unlike with MiTo, they didn't "quit" after offering some lame apology, then come back. KappaKapps was found to consist of a "team" of two people, one of whom is Pacifist. As you may remember, he got himself permanently banned from the site.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 August 2015, 07:13:47
I guess it's too difficult for a couple of minors, one with a history of scamming and compulsive lying, to come up with their own design ideas.
What's this all about, another MiTo like transgression here?
I thought as older people here everyone would start behaving nicely towards one another and not start acting like schoolies in the play ground.
Unlike with MiTo, they didn't "quit" after offering some lame apology, then come back. KappaKapps was found to consist of a "team" of two people, one of whom is Pacifist. As you may remember, he got himself permanently banned from the site.
Wonder if they'd let ripster come back so long as he ran a GMK group buy? :P
Post by: KappaKapps on Tue, 18 August 2015, 07:23:53
I guess it's too difficult for a couple of minors, one with a history of scamming and compulsive lying, to come up with their own design ideas.
What's this all about, another MiTo like transgression here?
I thought as older people here everyone would start behaving nicely towards one another and not start acting like schoolies in the play ground.
Unlike with MiTo, they didn't "quit" after offering some lame apology, then come back. KappaKapps was found to consist of a "team" of two people, one of whom is Pacifist. As you may remember, he got himself permanently banned from the site.
Jdcarpe, while I admire your enthusiasm in our thread. Please stop posting claims that you have no proof of. The team is larger than 2 people. Read the interview that you brought up earlier. Additionally, Wang has been let go and the mods have documents that prove my ownership of this account.
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 18 August 2015, 07:44:24
Just like the alphas in Bunny's Hyperfuse set (1x R3, 1x R4)
(http://i.imgur.com/uDj1Fez.png)
Two 1unit keys wouldn't increase the overall costs much. Since the red modifier set includes ISO keys, the alphas should have them as well :thumb:
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 18 August 2015, 08:10:34
Unlike with MiTo, they didn't "quit" after offering some lame apology, then come back. KappaKapps was found to consist of a "team" of two people, one of whom is Pacifist. As you may remember, he got himself permanently banned from the site.
Thanks JD for letting me know, didn't realize someone got banned from here now involving themselves with another Group Buy again.
A shame really, thought this was going to be a legit with no problems type of GB........ ::)
Post by: KappaKapps on Tue, 18 August 2015, 08:47:35
He was banned for having multiple accounts and has no access to this GB via kappakapps. I'm a different person and that has been confirmed by the mods. This is a different situation than MiToUnlike with MiTo, they didn't "quit" after offering some lame apology, then come back. KappaKapps was found to consist of a "team" of two people, one of whom is Pacifist. As you may remember, he got himself permanently banned from the site.
Thanks JD for letting me know, didn't realize someone got banned from here now involving themselves with another Group Buy again.
A shame really, thought this was going to be a legit with no problems type of GB........ ::)
Post by: joey on Tue, 18 August 2015, 09:08:19
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 18 August 2015, 17:07:38
well, not here to cause vibes, will wait for someone else to do the GB. I'll remove myself from this IC for the time being then.
before I do, are these GMK?: http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/cyrllic
Yes, but it should be mentioned that Originative lost their vendor status for failure to ship product. Some people have had better luck recently, but I thought I should mention it.
I recently had some interaction with Originative and I feel like they won't be having any more issues. He admitted that he was basically treating the "business" like a hobby, from what I could tell, and wasn't keeping up with thinks like a business owner would, but now has moved forward with it as a business, released his address and phone # to call/text, and has hired help. In situations like that I feel like second chances are worth giving. But my opinion is based on personal experience. My last order arrived very quickly from him.
Post by: NorrisB on Tue, 18 August 2015, 18:31:03
Post by: KappaKapps on Tue, 18 August 2015, 23:20:32
Trays come with a lid and will be able to hold a 104 keyset and more.
We will price trays at $7 USD each.
GB thread will be posted tomorrow.
The Cyrillics and Red mods will go through. In 2-3 weeks due to not enough interest.
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 19 August 2015, 00:45:39
Unless they redesign the tray, I won't place an order.
Post by: filphil on Wed, 19 August 2015, 00:56:58
Is there really an interest for those trays after the shipping fiasco with GMK Triump Adler?
Unless they redesign the tray, I won't place an order.
For organizing the half dozen gmk sets I have they'll do the job. Won't be shipping anything in them though.
Post by: KnivesM on Wed, 19 August 2015, 01:31:14
Is there really an interest for those trays after the shipping fiasco with GMK Triump Adler?Most people don't ship keysets in trays/cases which is where the issue is, but for storage they will work great for sets that are different than the standard layout. For shipping and moving around the Leopold ones work better but they don't hold as many layouts or childkits in one tray.
Unless they redesign the tray, I won't place an order.
Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 19 August 2015, 03:43:04
Is there really an interest for those trays after the shipping fiasco with GMK Triump Adler?Most people don't ship keysets in trays/cases which is where the issue is, but for storage they will work great for sets that are different than the standard layout. For shipping and moving around the Leopold ones work better but they don't hold as many layouts or childkits in one tray.
Unless they redesign the tray, I won't place an order.
Yep this is why I am interested in them
Much nicer to store them in a set where you can actually have a look at how a set looks and easily swap out keys from other sets to get an idea of how they look together rather than having to pull all the keys out of a baggie and organise them everytime you pull them out
Post by: 64rky on Wed, 19 August 2015, 06:25:58
Is there really an interest for those trays after the shipping fiasco with GMK Triump Adler?
Unless they redesign the tray, I won't place an order.
I am not sure if the trays for the TA set were gmk's old trays, but they have new ones. Assuming these will be for the new trays.
Post by: baldgye on Wed, 19 August 2015, 06:30:03
Unlike with MiTo, they didn't "quit" after offering some lame apology, then come back. KappaKapps was found to consist of a "team" of two people, one of whom is Pacifist. As you may remember, he got himself permanently banned from the site.
Thanks JD for letting me know, didn't realize someone got banned from here now involving themselves with another Group Buy again.
A shame really, thought this was going to be a legit with no problems type of GB........ ::)
It's totally legit, kappa.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 19 August 2015, 08:52:08
It'd be great if the mods that confirmed it, would also post something.
Post coming soon, after some finalizing.
Post by: bueller on Wed, 19 August 2015, 09:01:57
(https://gd2.alicdn.com/imgextra/i2/75713816/T2jy9FXm8cXXXXXXXX_!!75713816.jpg)
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.51.OxFAqi&id=27532644007&ns=1&abbucket=18#detail
Post by: KappaKapps on Wed, 19 August 2015, 11:20:19
Just throwing this out there but the EVA keycap boxes can be found on Taobao for a similar price. Might be another option?That looks interesting ,but that seems to be more of a box rather than a case. That might be better for shipping keycaps, but in my opinion the GMK trays are better for storing keycaps.Show Image(https://gd2.alicdn.com/imgextra/i2/75713816/T2jy9FXm8cXXXXXXXX_!!75713816.jpg)
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.51.OxFAqi&id=27532644007&ns=1&abbucket=18#detail
Post by: madhias on Wed, 19 August 2015, 13:37:36
Just throwing this out there but the EVA keycap boxes can be found on Taobao for a similar price. Might be another option?Show Image(https://gd2.alicdn.com/imgextra/i2/75713816/T2jy9FXm8cXXXXXXXX_!!75713816.jpg)
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.51.OxFAqi&id=27532644007&ns=1&abbucket=18#detail
I'd prefer these over the GMK boxes, if they are the same like the ones from the TA GB. I couldn't even cary the case around without flipping caps, and I am not even speaking of opening it up! But could be that mine was worn out or not closing/opening properly anymore.
Post by: Blackehart on Wed, 19 August 2015, 14:10:32
The only redeeming thing about them is the logo.
Even for storing, I would prefer something a tad more robust...
(disgruntled TA owner)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 19 August 2015, 14:45:32
Post by: Herothereu on Thu, 20 August 2015, 16:28:50
Just throwing this out there but the EVA keycap boxes can be found on Taobao for a similar price. Might be another option?That looks interesting ,but that seems to be more of a box rather than a case. That might be better for shipping keycaps, but in my opinion the GMK trays are better for storing keycaps.Show Image(https://gd2.alicdn.com/imgextra/i2/75713816/T2jy9FXm8cXXXXXXXX_!!75713816.jpg)
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.51.OxFAqi&id=27532644007&ns=1&abbucket=18#detail
Might want to rethink that:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/3hrkw9/my_first_triumph_adler_set_was_poorly_packaged/
Post by: KnivesM on Thu, 20 August 2015, 17:02:20
As it's been said multiple times in this thread already, and in what you quoted, most people know by now that these are bad for shipping keycaps... On the other hand for storing large sets with child kits, ISO sets, and full GMK sets these will work nicely.Just throwing this out there but the EVA keycap boxes can be found on Taobao for a similar price. Might be another option?That looks interesting ,but that seems to be more of a box rather than a case. That might be better for shipping keycaps, but in my opinion the GMK trays are better for storing keycaps.Show Image(https://gd2.alicdn.com/imgextra/i2/75713816/T2jy9FXm8cXXXXXXXX_!!75713816.jpg)
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.51.OxFAqi&id=27532644007&ns=1&abbucket=18#detail
Might want to rethink that:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/3hrkw9/my_first_triumph_adler_set_was_poorly_packaged/
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 20 August 2015, 18:17:20
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 26 September 2015, 01:32:55
Post by: Karura on Sat, 26 September 2015, 01:37:00
Is this thing dead before it even started or why wasn't there an update in over a month?
Why would you want a former scammer to run a GB anyway?
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 26 September 2015, 02:12:33
Is this thing dead before it even started or why wasn't there an update in over a month?
Why would you want a former scammer to run a GB anyway?
I don't. I was just curious :p
I know the history behind Pacifist. Having said that I am still interested in the Cyrillic Alphas. Hopefully we can get done someday - maybe via Massdrop :thumb:
Post by: nobodyknowsmyname on Thu, 07 January 2016, 02:47:53