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Title: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: baldgye on Fri, 03 July 2015, 02:03:29
Alright, this is the official place to ***** and complain about the total ****ing garbage that is itunes, case in point, I had organised/curated playlists that I made for my top tracks of that year (lists you can see here (http://gye20xx.tumblr.com/archive). As you can see I started it in 2008 and have continued to do it until this year (2015 was in progress). Since the update however iTunes has renamed and created a whole bunch of new playlists that I never wanted or created;


(http://i.imgur.com/dTUONqF.png)

Why do I now have 5 2016 playlists? I think one of them MIGHT be the 2015 playlist I was putting together but I've got no idea, where the **** are the other playlists I made? Bearing in mind those are automatic playlists I used to help my curate my main list, all totally ****ed, thanks to iTunes.

Now looking at the playlists I actually made by hand, I notice I have two 2015 lists, why the **** do I have two, and why the **** is one double the size of the other?!

(http://i.imgur.com/V4kflFa.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/IJzLBnJ.png)


Why the **** has iTunes even touched my ****ing playlists?! I never asked it too, it's even worse on my phone with the new Apple Music app I can ONLY for some ****ed up reason see some random playlists (and yes you guessed it most of those are all 5 of those random 2016 playlists).

Why the **** are Apple letting people with weapons grade autism code and work on there biggest ****ing application?!
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: baldgye on Fri, 03 July 2015, 02:06:23
I also see that they totally changed the interface for sync'ing with your phone, so now you have literally zero control over putting music on your phone... what the ****
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: azhdar on Fri, 03 July 2015, 02:07:14
Only wish Itunes would eat flac. Tired of converting it to stupid alac.

I haven't done yesterday update yet. Maybe I shouldn't.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: baldgye on Fri, 03 July 2015, 02:13:04
Only wish Itunes would eat flac. Tired of converting it to stupid alac.

I haven't done yesterday update yet. Maybe I shouldn't.

If your a heavy playlist user, don't it's ****ing trash. This is the new options/management screen for managing what music is transfered to your iphone;

(http://i.imgur.com/hvnhX32.png)

if I didn't have a device big enough for all my itunes music, I would be having a ****ing hernia right about now
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: demik on Fri, 03 July 2015, 02:20:58
**** their new music app also
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: Coreda on Fri, 03 July 2015, 02:49:05
Pity everyone who finds iTunes sucks can't switch to anything else.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: baldgye on Fri, 03 July 2015, 02:57:55
If you can show me another audio program that is able to manage your music and has a store connected to it with most music and can send all that stuff to my phone I'll sign up right now
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: bueller on Fri, 03 July 2015, 03:00:44
**** iTunes. Complete resource hog and I can't stand apps that try and take control of my files. I use VOX for local music and spotify for web streaming, running an Android so I can just drag and drop songs on my phone.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: dustinhxc on Fri, 03 July 2015, 04:58:17
That sucks man.. I have to upgrade my phone too.. I've been using google play music for 2 months and it rocks.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: bazh on Fri, 03 July 2015, 07:39:22
still staying at 12.1


but Apple Music in my place is only $3/month, I guess that's nice...
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: PunksDead on Fri, 03 July 2015, 08:03:54
i keep breaking ipods and i spent a good time loading music into my iphone 5.

just bought an iphone 6 and have no interest in keeping with itunes,

i have been very happy with Pandora as a replacement if anyone has better alternatives hit me up.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 03 July 2015, 08:14:29
Just turn off iCloud Music Library when you launch the new iTunes or Apple Music (on the phone) and you'll be fine.

It's still a piece of crap.

But turning off will not screw up the playlist or your songs.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: baldgye on Fri, 03 July 2015, 08:22:56
Problem i have with data plans for music, is your super limited by genre and artist & then even more so by signal
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 03 July 2015, 10:18:29
Zune software >>>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes


I was sad when I was gifted an iPod Touch instead of a Zune back in the day.  iTunes is such a piece of **** no matter what OS you're using.  It's so counter-intuitive and such a pain.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 03 July 2015, 10:21:45
Zune software >>>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes


I was sad when I was gifted an iPod Touch instead of a Zune back in the day.  iTunes is such a piece of **** no matter what OS you're using.  It's so counter-intuitive and such a pain.
it's the abusive wife you can't get rid off.. because of the kids (iPhones)..
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: baldgye on Fri, 03 July 2015, 10:26:50
Zune software >>>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes


I was sad when I was gifted an iPod Touch instead of a Zune back in the day.  iTunes is such a piece of **** no matter what OS you're using.  It's so counter-intuitive and such a pain.

The launch Zune software, the v2 was total garbage
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: dustinhxc on Fri, 03 July 2015, 14:36:16
Problem i have with data plans for music, is your super limited by genre and artist & then even more so by signal

I've been able to find everything except some mix tapes on Google play. I've only had signal cut out a couple times. I'm on sprint. It's probably way different there though. But also they give you 80gb free cloud storage for your own music that isn't on there.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: baldgye on Fri, 03 July 2015, 15:55:57
Problem i have with data plans for music, is your super limited by genre and artist & then even more so by signal

I've been able to find everything except some mix tapes on Google play. I've only had signal cut out a couple times. I'm on sprint. It's probably way different there though. But also they give you 80gb free cloud storage for your own music that isn't on there.

Yeah, but I'm like a legit hipster
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: baldgye on Sun, 05 July 2015, 05:10:55
Also, should be noted that they seemingly (for no obvious reason) changed the time period for 'Recently Added' music, which seems to span the last 3-4 months now... not sure why...

(http://i.imgur.com/2U2mxrC.png)
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: baldgye on Sun, 05 July 2015, 05:56:35
I still can't get playlists that I have on iTunes sync with my phone, at all, I'm not the only one too; https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7104625?start=0&tstart=0

It's even more ****ed up that they decided to remove the option to make your own playlists on the device... like what the **** is wrong with the software team
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: twiddle on Sun, 05 July 2015, 06:11:52
Gotta admit, I use foobar2k for actual listening and managing stuff on my PC and only touch iTunes when I need to copy audio over to my iDevices.
Then again, I avoid playlists and syncing and use the manual management function, because iTunes is so horrible at what it does.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: baldgye on Sun, 05 July 2015, 06:47:06
I have over 90gb of music on my phone, playlists are essential lol
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: Sirakain on Sun, 05 July 2015, 06:58:23
Why I used to have and iphone, I used Copytrans Manager, not sure if it still works. UI was a bit old, but it did its job.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: baldgye on Sun, 05 July 2015, 07:00:18
I imagine that the newest update to the Music App and how it 'manages' music would have probably broken all 3rd party stuff
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: Belfong on Sun, 05 July 2015, 07:01:36

I still can't get playlists that I have on iTunes sync with my phone, at all, I'm not the only one too; https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7104625?start=0&tstart=0

It's even more ****ed up that they decided to remove the option to make your own playlists on the device... like what the **** is wrong with the software team
I'm not sure. I can create playlist:
(http://i.imgur.com/cPfv7hN.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/SLEdhle.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: Belfong on Sun, 05 July 2015, 07:07:46
Wow, I just found I can create a playlist and add other playlist into it! That's super cool.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: slip84 on Sun, 05 July 2015, 07:34:12
I must be the only person on this planet who doesn't use playlists.

So far, I have not experienced any of the horrible 12.2 bugs.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: baldgye on Sun, 05 July 2015, 07:35:54
Ahh nice one Belfong! I missed that haha
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: beehatch on Sun, 05 July 2015, 08:40:09
Ha, iTunes is complete trash. I only use it to sync music then I make a playlist on my phone.

Foobar is meh thang to listen to music on pc though.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: nothing4me on Wed, 22 July 2015, 00:32:04
I can't give up iTunes. My favorite thing is creating dynamic playlists with their GUI. It's just so damn easy. Haven't run into any problems whatsoever. Also, I like their metadata system too (you can choose what time songs start and end, so you can trim music without modifying your music files).
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 22 July 2015, 00:45:07
I love Apple Music.. That's enough to like iTunes at this moment.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: baldgye on Sat, 15 August 2015, 12:57:03
>buys albums from Amazon
>updates iphone
>wont sync the music to my phone
>update itunes
>those albums refuse to go across to my phone
>buys album on itunes store
>auto sync's it to my phone before I've even asked it too
>amazon bought albums still wont sync


seems to be pretty legit that now Apple won't let you sync albums bought anywhere but on iTunes to your iphone... how can that even be legal?
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Sat, 15 August 2015, 16:57:43
Only wish Itunes would eat flac. Tired of converting it to stupid alac.

I haven't done yesterday update yet. Maybe I shouldn't.

When I started picking up more and more FLAC I left iTunes behind for good*. I use FooBar2000 on my desktop and laptop. I absolutely love it. I have been iTunes free for 2 years now. :p No, it doesn't sync with a phone, but I use an android phone, so I just transfer the files as if it were to a flashdrive or such. I also have to use alternative software to burn CDs. FooBar2000 is open sourced though. I don't take advance of that (I prefer the simple stock vintage theme with the album list and default showing), it certainly opens up lots of doors for those who want to customize their experience.

*I also left iTunes because of how much extra files it was stashing on my computer. When I deleted iTunes I deleted about 10 GB of random, extra files. Part of that is because I'm not to great with computers, cookies, and keeping it clean. The other part was just because iTunes liked to take advantage of my hard drive. Glad to be done with that. FooBar2000 is 58 MB at its simplest.

I used Zune for a while with my Zune, but it never seemed to run well. I haven't loaded it on my latest laptop or desktop.

Bottom line: I'm just glad to be done with iTunes.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: Coreda on Sat, 15 August 2015, 17:12:26
I use FooBar2000. I also have to use alternative software to burn CDs.

Use the audio writer component (http://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_burninate) which adds CD burning. One less program to use.

FooBar2000 is open sourced though.

Actually it's closed source, but freeware.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Sat, 15 August 2015, 23:46:42
I use FooBar2000. I also have to use alternative software to burn CDs.

Use the audio writer component (http://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_burninate) which adds CD burning. One less program to use.

FooBar2000 is open sourced though.

Actually it's closed source, but freeware.

Ahh, I did not know that last part. I will have to add that audio writer! Thanks!
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: baldgye on Sun, 16 August 2015, 02:37:29
If foobar could be used with my iPhone and had integrated iTunes Store support then I could move, but as it stands it's just not possible... Maybe if Apple continue make iTunes the ****ing worst and foobar can sync and manage music for Android devices maybe I could move... But ATM in too much into music and owning music and iTunes is still just the best and easiest, despite its autistic and possibly illegal behaviour
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: davkol on Sun, 16 August 2015, 07:38:38
ITT people surprised that Apple's walled garden is indeed a walled garden.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: baldgye on Sun, 16 August 2015, 08:06:58
ITT people who can't read
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: davkol on Sun, 16 August 2015, 08:54:59
Exactly.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: Belfong on Sun, 16 August 2015, 08:57:26

Only wish Itunes would eat flac. Tired of converting it to stupid alac.

I haven't done yesterday update yet. Maybe I shouldn't.

When I started picking up more and more FLAC I left iTunes behind for good*. I use FooBar2000 on my desktop and laptop. I absolutely love it. I have been iTunes free for 2 years now. :p No, it doesn't sync with a phone, but I use an android phone, so I just transfer the files as if it were to a flashdrive or such. I also have to use alternative software to burn CDs. FooBar2000 is open sourced though. I don't take advance of that (I prefer the simple stock vintage theme with the album list and default showing), it certainly opens up lots of doors for those who want to customize their experience.

*I also left iTunes because of how much extra files it was stashing on my computer. When I deleted iTunes I deleted about 10 GB of random, extra files. Part of that is because I'm not to great with computers, cookies, and keeping it clean. The other part was just because iTunes liked to take advantage of my hard drive. Glad to be done with that. FooBar2000 is 58 MB at its simplest.

I used Zune for a while with my Zune, but it never seemed to run well. I haven't loaded it on my latest laptop or desktop.

Bottom line: I'm just glad to be done with iTunes.
I just want to say that the reason iTunes have 10GB is probably due to the size of your iPad or iPhone backups.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Sun, 16 August 2015, 11:48:21
I don't use any Apple devices. The only one I have ever had was about 8 years ago and used a different computer to upload.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: baldgye on Sun, 16 August 2015, 16:19:03
I don't use any Apple devices. The only one I have ever had was about 8 years ago and used a different computer to upload.

Thanks for your input.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Sun, 16 August 2015, 16:22:46
I don't use any Apple devices. The only one I have ever had was about 8 years ago and used a different computer to upload.

Thanks for your input.

Perhaps I should've quoted the gentleman above me. It was a response to his comment.  :-\
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: baldgye on Sun, 16 August 2015, 16:27:33
Yeah sorry my bad, tired and grouchy I totally missed the post above :P
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: THSdrummer on Sun, 16 August 2015, 16:31:28
Yeah sorry my bad, tired and grouchy I totally missed the post above :P

Hahaha, you're good. I'm just never sure how much to read into posts on here. I have never figured out if I should quote who I'm responding to if they're right above me. Some forums hate it, others prefer it. So I just kinda flip a coin to figure it out. :thumb:
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: Belfong on Sun, 16 August 2015, 18:32:48
Don't worry, I usually don't quote too if it was a direct response to the post above.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: baldgye on Sun, 25 October 2015, 03:58:03
Well it's only taken the best part of 6 months but finally, finally Apple has fixed playlists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Woooooooooo!!!!!!!

(http://i.imgur.com/jrAjjTJ.png)(http://i.imgur.com/RWJugrJ.png)


Tis the season of miracles
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: azhdar on Sun, 25 October 2015, 04:11:02
Speaking of itunes does anyone have experience with moving your itunes library from one computer to another?

(http://puu.sh/kWOlI/2d97b2e946.png)
1386 artists, 15136 songs

I need to re install my computer since forever but I'm so afraid to lose my ratings, playlists and all the other stuff.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: baldgye on Sun, 25 October 2015, 04:15:37
There is an XML file you'll need to find, that stores everything, though I think ratings and things are emended into the id3 tags of each track... But if you find that file you can move iTunes only when you reinstall it will list all the music as it was, and if your music has moved all those links in iTunes will be broken and need fixing
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: Jema on Sun, 25 October 2015, 13:45:32
Although I can agree I don't care for he new iTunes I just downloaded the new 9.1 iOS update and there's so many new emojis!! I'm so happy
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: Zaskar on Mon, 26 October 2015, 11:45:13
**** their new music app also

Oh man, their new mucis app update to IOS prettymuch broke car connectivity. Often doesnt display track names anymore, need to open up the phone and manually kill the music app and re open it.

Speaking of itunes does anyone have experience with moving your itunes library from one computer to another?

Show Image
(http://puu.sh/kWOlI/2d97b2e946.png)

1386 artists, 15136 songs

I need to re install my computer since forever but I'm so afraid to lose my ratings, playlists and all the other stuff.

Yeah, its pretty simple as long as you have something big enough to hold/transfer your library.

If you never changed the default location it will be the iTunes folder that's inside your accounts Music folder in windows (Check inside to be sure it contains your music/apps). Back it up and paste it back in that location after installing iTunes on your new machine.

If you want to place it in a different location then hold Shift when you open itunes and it will bring up a  small window that will give you the option of choosing a library file in a new location, just select the .itl file from your itunes library in whatever location you put it.

Mine currently resides on a Synology network drive and itunes seems to handle it great, even with the network storage sleep enabled. iTunes just waits for it to spin up instead of immediately erroring out that it cant find the library.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 26 October 2015, 12:26:07
Itunes sucks but Apple Music's recommendations are really good :(
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: Zaskar on Mon, 26 October 2015, 12:31:54
Itunes sucks but Apple Music's recommendations are really good :(

Everytime I contemplate ditching it entirely I remember how many songs I've found through recommendations when I was searching a similar song. If it wasnt for that Id probably stopped using it a long time ago.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: Incredigasmic on Tue, 03 November 2015, 08:24:31
iTunes actually drove me to using Android
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: kebby on Tue, 03 November 2015, 13:44:16
I hate iTunes because sometimes songs are only available there and I can't buy them. Just because they force you to install a desktop app or own an Apple touchscreen device to download a file.

I also hate it for all those podcast links I can't follow again because I have no desire to install Apple's crappy app. Even if I had I could not because they don't support my platform. Lastly, I don't like the way making a legal purchase from it gives me a file that embeds my name in it for tracking.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: pyrolovesmoney on Tue, 03 November 2015, 18:11:25
Stopped using itunes years ago. My only reason to use it was to hear ipods, which they sucked at delivering. ONce I found stitcher I never again used itunes.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: Belfong on Tue, 03 November 2015, 21:42:51
I am curious as I haven't really checked it in the desktop. Does playing songs in Apple Music increase the Play Count? Back in the old days, I depend on Play Counts to create Smart Playlist, for example Favourites playlist will have songs > 20 play counts in the last 3 months. Now that we have Apple Music, and theoretically is streaming songs and not keeping a local copy, does iTunes track Play Count?
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: Zaskar on Tue, 03 November 2015, 23:54:16
Itunes also sometimes for whatever reasond decides to re encode an album and rescan the album art. But they (probably for some dumb copyright reason) keep your purchase tied to the old version that was replaced. You can still download the tracks from purchase history but the "complete this album" option is now greyed out (but oddly enough, the link to view the album in itunes store still brings you to the new one).

I noticed this on a lot of my music that I purchased a few years ago. while the album art is the same the color is slightly different showing a new scan of a printing from a different batch.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: shibataken on Tue, 10 November 2015, 13:50:33
Yea...and all my iphone playlists somehow disappeared or got re-arranged.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: azhdar on Sun, 20 December 2015, 06:53:15
So any user of Itunes have a clue on how to just disable albums rating ? It's fukin up my whole playlist I just want to remove this ****.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: baldgye on Sun, 20 December 2015, 06:54:36
So any user of Itunes have a clue on how to just disable albums rating ? It's fukin up my whole playlist I just want to remove this ****.

what do you mean? why is it affecting a playlist?



~iTunes since the last update has actually been alot better for me and alot more stable... also I've been able to sync stuff!
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: azhdar on Sun, 20 December 2015, 07:00:58
(http://puu.sh/m2kxt/ca4077ca3a.png)

Like this for a exemple, this is my "RATE ME" playlist, and some albums got random rating assigned, so it gives me those stupid grey stars, CBA to browse through all my albums to change it down to 0 stars.

(rating on the far right is album rating).
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: baldgye on Sun, 20 December 2015, 07:04:43
Show Image
(http://puu.sh/m2kxt/ca4077ca3a.png)


Like this for a exemple, this is my "RATE ME" playlist, and some albums got random rating assigned, so it gives me those stupid grey stars, CBA to browse through all my albums to change it down to 0 stars.

(rating on the far right is album rating).

Ahhh ok I think I got it, there is a set of stars that's album rating (if you rated the album 3 stars it auto puts three grey stars for each track). The other set of stars is the rating that song has, I think... if you want to hide the album stars you can right click on the list of categories at the top and untick it?
The grey stars don't really mean anything though so you could just ignore them?
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: azhdar on Sun, 20 December 2015, 07:08:31
What bothers me is I never rated albums and the grey stars seem to count just like regular star.
And they fuk up my sorting because if an album gets 2stars, all his tracks gets into my 2stars playlist

This is really not convenient because I still have a lot of sorting to do :
(http://puu.sh/m2kWc/266c5bd6ee.png)
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: baldgye on Sun, 20 December 2015, 07:13:21
What bothers me is I never rated albums and the grey stars seem to count just like regular star.
And they fuk up my sorting because if an album gets 2stars, all his tracks gets into my 2stars playlist

This is really not convenient because I still have a lot of sorting to do :
Show Image
(http://puu.sh/m2kWc/266c5bd6ee.png)


You have a super strange way of sorting your music out haha so wait, if you add a new album to itunes and rate one track in the album, what happens ?

for me it stars the album like that in grey, is this what your talking about?


(http://i.imgur.com/CVpSW8X.jpg)

Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: azhdar on Sun, 20 December 2015, 07:20:34
Basicly my system is I had new songs to my itunes they get into the "new playlist" (smart playlist of new songs that haven't been played yet)
I rate the decent one 2-3stars, they get into the "RATE ME" playlist (smart playlist of the 2-3 stars)
(Both of those playlists are 1000 songs more btw)

When they go up to 4-5 stars they get into my regular playlists


And so those random album rating are fukin up my system.

(http://puu.sh/m2lyW/ac794efb80.png)

This is what it gives me. If I put the rating down to 0stars it fixes my issue, but I never rated it nor want to browse each album to fix it.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: baldgye on Sun, 20 December 2015, 07:21:50
Basicly my system is I had new songs to my itunes they get into the "new playlist" (smart playlist of new songs that haven't been played yet)
I rate the decent one 2-3stars, they get into the "RATE ME" playlist (smart playlist of the 2-3 stars)
(Both of those playlists are 1000 songs more btw)

When they go up to 4-5 stars they get into my regular playlists


And so those random album rating are fukin up my system.

can't you edit the smart playlists to only count song rating and not album rating? Is this a new issue? I'm pretty sure iTunes has worked like that for years :/ but idk I've never used a system like yours as I tend to only add one or two albums at a time and listen to them solo a few times before rating
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: azhdar on Sun, 20 December 2015, 07:26:09
Basicly my system is I had new songs to my itunes they get into the "new playlist" (smart playlist of new songs that haven't been played yet)
I rate the decent one 2-3stars, they get into the "RATE ME" playlist (smart playlist of the 2-3 stars)
(Both of those playlists are 1000 songs more btw)

When they go up to 4-5 stars they get into my regular playlists


And so those random album rating are fukin up my system.

can't you edit the smart playlists to only count song rating and not album rating? Is this a new issue? I'm pretty sure iTunes has worked like that for years :/ but idk I've never used a system like yours as I tend to only add one or two albums at a time and listen to them solo a few times before rating

The smart playlist is on rating, not on album rating.

Too much music, I need an industrial system :x

(http://puu.sh/m2lJy/83ccf86a4e.png)
Latest addition of the summer that I have not finished going through yet.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: baldgye on Sun, 20 December 2015, 07:30:39
Basicly my system is I had new songs to my itunes they get into the "new playlist" (smart playlist of new songs that haven't been played yet)
I rate the decent one 2-3stars, they get into the "RATE ME" playlist (smart playlist of the 2-3 stars)
(Both of those playlists are 1000 songs more btw)

When they go up to 4-5 stars they get into my regular playlists


And so those random album rating are fukin up my system.

can't you edit the smart playlists to only count song rating and not album rating? Is this a new issue? I'm pretty sure iTunes has worked like that for years :/ but idk I've never used a system like yours as I tend to only add one or two albums at a time and listen to them solo a few times before rating

The smart playlist is on rating, not on album rating.

Too much music, I need an industrial system :x

Show Image
(http://puu.sh/m2lJy/83ccf86a4e.png)

Latest addition of the summer that I have not finished going through yet.

hmm I used to be like this but life and work got in the way... I'm trying to think of a way you could keep your system... I don't think there is an easy fix... one option could be when you add an album to iTunes you change the album name to '*Let Go' and then when you like it '**Let Go' and then sort by album name and have it start with * or ** or something?

But I'm amazed your iTunes even works properly with that much music in it, I remember when my iTunes library was over 300gb and it was a NIGHTMARE it was so slow...
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: whmeltonjr on Mon, 18 January 2016, 21:05:46
Just bumping this to remind everyone how AWFUL iTunes is. When did it become so difficult to add music to your phone? What happened to dragging and dropping stuff over???
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: jerue on Mon, 18 January 2016, 21:42:37
Just bumping this to remind everyone how AWFUL iTunes is. When did it become so difficult to add music to your phone? What happened to dragging and dropping stuff over???

It all died with the iPod app on iOS. The decline of a good music player...that said even if we got pre-iOS 7 (or heck, even 8 I think) music back I wouldn't complain one bit; and might even switch back to iPhone!

iTunes has almost always been bad in some manner.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: whmeltonjr on Mon, 18 January 2016, 21:44:32
Just bumping this to remind everyone how AWFUL iTunes is. When did it become so difficult to add music to your phone? What happened to dragging and dropping stuff over???

It all died with the iPod app. The decline of a good music player...that said even if we got pre-iOS 7 (or heck, even 8 I think) music back I wouldn't complain one bit; and might even switch back to iPhone!

I haven't messed with itunes in forever, but now I'm forced to add some music to my phone since I'm going out of town and don't want to burn a ton of data streaming music. Holy crap it is so bad. I should just pay for Spotify and download everything offline instead of messing with this crap.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: jerue on Mon, 18 January 2016, 21:56:00
download everything offline

bingo  ;)

have been doing this forever and the part of me that refuses to change will not be changing any time sooner!

automation is rarely "great", good at best, more likely than not disastrous when done wrong or in a mediocre manner.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: cryptokey on Mon, 18 January 2016, 22:28:35
Plenty of open source alternatives such as Amarok.  Good luck bringing your itunes playlists over though...
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: whmeltonjr on Mon, 18 January 2016, 22:36:34
Anybody have any luck syncing everything to iCloud? I can only get about 25% of my library to sync.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: baldgye on Tue, 19 January 2016, 01:57:35
Anybody have any luck syncing everything to iCloud? I can only get about 25% of my library to sync.

never got it to work, all it tells me when i try is that there isn't enough space and then it spams me over and over every single day that i need to buy more space, the only way to stop the spam is to sign out of every icloud service which includes find my iphone. **** me i hate this garbage phone and os
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: vivalarevolución on Sat, 23 January 2016, 09:43:56
iTunes evolved to the point that I had difficulty finding the music I had stored on my hard drive.  The main goal of Itunes is to sell stuff, not help you organize your music, that's what they design it for now.

Since I made the switch over to Linux, I've found a number of better organized music players.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: baldgye on Sat, 23 January 2016, 10:38:53
iTunes evolved to the point that I had difficulty finding the music I had stored on my hard drive.  The main goal of Itunes is to sell stuff, not help you organize your music, that's what they design it for now.

Since I made the switch over to Linux, I've found a number of better organized music players.

I'm not a crazy person so I won't be moving from Windows, but I'm going to take a serous look at foobar, I really need new HDD's though and spend a good few days sorting my music collection properly before I do anything too crazy.

That said iTunes Store has gotten a lot worse, it used to be far more tailored to your specific tastes and prior purchases, but they seem to have ditched all of that. Though I don't find it any harder to find my own music than I used too...
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: iLLucionist on Thu, 28 January 2016, 14:43:12
I have always wondered how a UX-focused company like Apple can so severely and seriously mess up the UX of iTunes. And after every redesign that supposedly makes it better, it is even worse! And it is sooo sloow.

Though I was tempted by Apple Music, I tried it for like 2 hours and I was like "screw this UI. Back to Spotify."

Wondering whether my Mac would implode if I delete the iTunes binary..
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: johnystare on Thu, 19 November 2020, 06:26:23
If you want to listen to music on your Iphone, but all the music is on your PC, then I advise you to use this software - https://softorino.com/waltr/windows-guides/how-upload-music-your-iphone-using-waltr/ - there is nothing complicated, and if you can't figure it out, then there are many articles on how to do it.
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: Sintpinty on Thu, 03 December 2020, 22:05:23
All my homies love winamp
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: azhdar on Fri, 11 December 2020, 02:45:07
MediaMonkey rules
Title: Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
Post by: fanpeople on Fri, 11 December 2020, 05:00:25
If you want to listen to music on your Iphone, but all the music is on your PC, then I advise you to use this software - https://softorino.com/waltr/windows-guides/how-upload-music-your-iphone-using-waltr/ - there is nothing complicated, and if you can't figure it out, then there are many articles on how to do it.
But what if I want to rectally load my music through my Krause end-bulbs? Will this software help my music cross my blood brain barrier?