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Title: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:15:40: UPDATE:

OKOKOKOK...

Serious decision time..

Ebay has 512GB ,,,,850 EVO for $150 + tax for me

Amazon has the 480GB ,,,,,Sand-Extreme Pro for $160 + tax for me..

This is super hard decision...... HALP

(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/e111de78.gif)

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My first was an Intel x25m.. I was SHOCKED at how fast the computer felt.. (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/8c460310.gif)

After that I got der x25m g2.. and then after that I got C300... Eventually, I bought like one of everything...

But nothing felt like the FIRST SSD, it was epic..
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: paicrai on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:30:07: TBA
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:36:27: Quote from: paicrai on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:30:07
TBA

OMG pai, is that why you're so angry all the time?

Because you're not using an SSD ?
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: demik on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:40:12: Haven't gotten an ssd yet. Hell just yesterday I filled my TB after like 5 years
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:42:30: Quote from: demik on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:40:12
Haven't gotten an ssd yet. Hell just yesterday I filled my TB after like 5 years

How could you guys even internet or computer... without SSD......

(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/5c745924.gif)
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:43:09: I got a Samsung 830 that was only about 64GB and it was strictly for programs. It was great and lasted for a couple of years, but was mostly full.

Now I have a Samsung 840 with about 128GB and it does what I need. It is about 2/3 full.

I still trust "real" hard drives for serious long-term storage, and have learned to keep at least 2-3 external hard drives for rotating archives.

So if I was not so lazy and archived much more often .....
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: njbair on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:46:34: I got in early and cheap with an OCZ 32GB SSD. It was nothing like the Samsungs or Intels of its day, but it definitely knocked my socks off at the time.

Currently running two Samsung 64GB SSDs and a 3TB HDD (all SATA), using LVM in Linux to partition it all. My next drive will surely be one of those sweet hybrid PCI-E ones.
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: jerue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:46:40: Kingston v300. Then, ignoring the internet, another Kingston v300.

Haven't had issues with either SSD but will probably upgrade to an EVO 850 this holiday season.

Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:42:30
Quote from: demik on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:40:12
Haven't gotten an ssd yet. Hell just yesterday I filled my TB after like 5 years

How could you guys even internet or computer... without SSD......

Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/5c745924.gif)

IDK, but we don't have solid state drives on our work machines yet. Annoying AF.
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: Fire Brand on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:47:35: OCZ Vertex 2 first one after a year it died controller locked up, replaced with the fixed version and it's still running fine as a data drive second was a Agility 3 which is my current boot drive
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:51:05: Quote from: njbair on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:46:34
I got in early and cheap with an OCZ 32GB SSD. It was nothing like the Samsungs or Intels of its day, but it definitely knocked my socks off at the time.

Currently running two Samsung 64GB SSDs and a 3TB HDD (all SATA), using LVM in Linux to partition it all. My next drive will surely be one of those sweet hybrid PCI-E ones.

Here's my take on the PCI-E drives..

they're NOT worth it..

Because 4k low queue Random read performance has been stuck at 30-40MB/s for YEARSsss...

So... The Extremely high-performance drives that feature pcie, etc etc, is ONLY FASTER for server like workloads in enterprise environments..

It won't make the desktop client loads ANY FASTER.. but it will cost M0re money..

Stick with der 850 pros.. or Sandisk ex pro..
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: demik on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:53:02: I'm still an Internet pleb. I badly need an upgrade too. Just too lazy to seek out parts.
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: njbair on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:54:03: Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:51:05
Quote from: njbair on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:46:34
I got in early and cheap with an OCZ 32GB SSD. It was nothing like the Samsungs or Intels of its day, but it definitely knocked my socks off at the time.

Currently running two Samsung 64GB SSDs and a 3TB HDD (all SATA), using LVM in Linux to partition it all. My next drive will surely be one of those sweet hybrid PCI-E ones.

Here's my take on the PCI-E drives..

they're NOT worth it..

Because 4k low queue Random read performance has been stuck at 30-40MB/s for YEARSsss...

So... The Extremely high-performance drives that feature pcie, etc etc, is ONLY FASTER for server like workloads in enterprise environments..

It won't make the desktop client loads ANY FASTER.. but it will cost M0re money..

Stick with der 850 pros.. or Sandisk ex pro..

Well I still like the idea of a hybrid drive, though. I miss the simple days of popping a single drive into a computer and just letting it do its thing. All this volume management, partitioning, etc., is for the birds.
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:56:00: Mine was a 90GB OCZ Vertex 2 (I think that was the model at least). It gave me trust issues. My second was a Mushkin Chronos. It also had problems. My current is a Samsung 840 Pro. I decided that it was worth spending a little more to get something that should be more reliable due to a better controller.
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:56:23: Quote from: demik on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:53:02
I'm still an Internet pleb. I badly need an upgrade too. Just too lazy to seek out parts.

You can skip looking for everything else LATER..

but get an SSD TODAY... even if it's not a good deal.. just get one..
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: Coreda on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:56:45: EVO 840 120GB. It's funny how I posted about not being particularly awed by the speed and it turning out the EVO 840 line actually is affected by a widespread issue that degrades the speed significantly over time (down to as low as 50 MB/s read).
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: swimmingbird on Sat, 01 August 2015, 10:00:18: First was an 840 Evo 250GB that I put in my Macbook Pro - was amazing

Now 2 years later I'm really starting to see that performance issue Coreda mentioned
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: trizkut on Sat, 01 August 2015, 10:05:26: 128gb c300 x2 --> 256gb 840 pro
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: demik on Sat, 01 August 2015, 10:06:39: Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:56:23
Quote from: demik on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:53:02
I'm still an Internet pleb. I badly need an upgrade too. Just too lazy to seek out parts.

You can skip looking for everything else LATER..

but get an SSD TODAY... even if it's not a good deal.. just get one..

Nah. I want a full upgrade already. I can't even run 1080p on my ****. Internet Stone Age :/
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: paicrai on Sat, 01 August 2015, 10:30:19: Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:36:27
Quote from: paicrai on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:30:07
TBA

OMG pai, is that why you're so angry all the time?

Because you're not using an SSD ?
no im not angry all the time those days over mang
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: njbair on Sat, 01 August 2015, 10:31:45: Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:56:23
Quote from: demik on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:53:02
I'm still an Internet pleb. I badly need an upgrade too. Just too lazy to seek out parts.

You can skip looking for everything else LATER..

but get an SSD TODAY... even if it's not a good deal.. just get one..

An SSD is always a good deal no matter what you pay. Because it convinces you that your current computer still has life left in it, which saves you from upgrading everything else when the drive was the bottleneck in the first place.
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: user 18 on Sat, 01 August 2015, 10:41:16: My first was a 120 GB Vertex 2 (which somehow never gave me any trouble). I also have a couple of other 120GB drives, a Kingston SSDNow (v200? not sure), and a couple of Kingston Hyperx Furys. With four drives over three machines, all the operating systems I use on a regular basis are now on SSDs as of this January or so.

Everything is just so snappy compared to a HDD, but I can't justify the cost yet for mass storage.
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: suicidal_orange on Sat, 01 August 2015, 10:59:04: My first SSD was a 64gb Crucial PATA mini PCIE one that I got in a second hand Dell Mini 9 netbook. The netbook is now on it's 4th SSD as it kills them!
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Sat, 01 August 2015, 11:01:01: bought a corsair force GT refurbed for dirt cheap back in the day. Paid $90 for a 120gb SSD when the average price was well over $150 for the average 120gb SSD.

Still works to this day and I use it as my main boot drive. If it ever fails well the only thing lost is a day of reinstalling OS and programs
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 11:13:18: Quote from: GL1TCH3D on Sat, 01 August 2015, 11:01:01
bought a corsair force GT refurbed for dirt cheap back in the day. Paid $90 for a 120gb SSD when the average price was well over $150 for the average 120gb SSD.

Still works to this day and I use it as my main boot drive. If it ever fails well the only thing lost is a day of reinstalling OS and programs

Make a clone of your boot partition now.. Your down time goes from 1 day to 20 minutes.
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: Wildcard on Sat, 01 August 2015, 11:37:46: Old western digital 64GB SSD. It was originally used as a cache drive for ZFS. I then picked up a WD 128GB before they got out of the market (the 64GB failed and they sent me a second 128GB). Still use one as a cache drive today. Other then that, it just makes sense to use SSD's as your main drive so I've moved all of our computers to SSDs now.
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 11:54:38: Quote from: demik on Sat, 01 August 2015, 10:06:39
Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:56:23
Quote from: demik on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:53:02
I'm still an Internet pleb. I badly need an upgrade too. Just too lazy to seek out parts.

You can skip looking for everything else LATER..

but get an SSD TODAY... even if it's not a good deal.. just get one..

Nah. I want a full upgrade already. I can't even run 1080p on my ****. Internet Stone Age :/

(http://www.msgking.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/onion-avatar127.gif)

can't run 1080p?

Hrrmmm.. so... 9 years old pc?
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: Hak Foo on Sat, 01 August 2015, 12:32:30: I got an OCZ Vertex 3, 120Gb. Worked fine on my on-the-way-out AMD790X board. When I put it in the new P67 board, constant hangups until I did a firmware update. Then I passed it on to a friend after getting a Corsair Neutron GTX 240Gb, and it hung all the time until it got ANOTHER firmware flash, on an AMD770 board. I think it just liked to be flashed.
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: heedpantsnow on Sat, 01 August 2015, 13:16:22: My first was an original OCZ Vertex prerelease drive, direct from OCZ. It was about 6-7 years ago, and cost somewhere around $250. Oh, and it was 30GB.
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: demik on Sat, 01 August 2015, 13:35:13: Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 11:54:38
Quote from: demik on Sat, 01 August 2015, 10:06:39
Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:56:23
Quote from: demik on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:53:02
I'm still an Internet pleb. I badly need an upgrade too. Just too lazy to seek out parts.

You can skip looking for everything else LATER..

but get an SSD TODAY... even if it's not a good deal.. just get one..

Nah. I want a full upgrade already. I can't even run 1080p on my ****. Internet Stone Age :/

Show Image
(http://www.msgking.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/onion-avatar127.gif)

can't run 1080p?

Hrrmmm.. so... 9 years old pc?

Old monitor + old gpu. I can't even view my gopro vids at 1080p/60fps :(. Have to scale it down to 720p
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 13:49:08: Quote from: demik on Sat, 01 August 2015, 13:35:13
Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 11:54:38
Quote from: demik on Sat, 01 August 2015, 10:06:39
Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:56:23
Quote from: demik on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:53:02
I'm still an Internet pleb. I badly need an upgrade too. Just too lazy to seek out parts.

You can skip looking for everything else LATER..

but get an SSD TODAY... even if it's not a good deal.. just get one..

Nah. I want a full upgrade already. I can't even run 1080p on my ****. Internet Stone Age :/

Show Image
(http://www.msgking.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/onion-avatar127.gif)

can't run 1080p?

Hrrmmm.. so... 9 years old pc?

Old monitor + old gpu. I can't even view my gopro vids at 1080p/60fps :(. Have to scale it down to 720p

what's the gpu and what cpu u got der'

Maybe you just need to enable dxva
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: demik on Sat, 01 August 2015, 13:50:00: First gen i5 and a 460. Not the 1gb version
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: Fire Brand on Sat, 01 August 2015, 13:56:18: Quote from: demik on Sat, 01 August 2015, 13:50:00
460.
You mean you have a room heater XD

I always loved the old Femi card they always kept me warm in winter :p
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 13:58:38: Quote from: demik on Sat, 01 August 2015, 13:50:00
First gen i5 and a 460. Not the 1gb version

OMG

dude..

You can watch 1080p LOLOL

OK.. what you need to do... is download MPC-HC, and Lav Filter

Make sure to get the 32-bit version.. the 64bit version is buggy

NOW, install mpc hc.. and lav filter

WHEN you install Lav filter, uncheck the 64bit selection, you don't want that, it will conflict.. only check the x86 boxes..

THEN, configure mpc-hc to use lav filter, under - external filters.. select it from the list, and put a box next to "prefered"

THEN, open up the Lav video filter configurator, and click on the top right box DXVA..

That should allow you to play 1080p/ 60 content through your GPU.

If you want me to walk u through this over skype let me no..
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: demik on Sat, 01 August 2015, 14:07:34: I'll give it a try. As expected it played gta v horribly.
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 14:10:22: Quote from: demik on Sat, 01 August 2015, 14:07:34
I'll give it a try. As expected it played gta v horribly.

when you say first gen i5.. you mean like the i5-760 ?

regardless of CPU, though, I'm 100% sure your setup can play 1080p/60 video files..

GTA-V maybe not...

it'd be a gpu limit mostly though..

because if it's first gen i5, it can overclock assuming you got the right board.
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: demik on Sat, 01 August 2015, 14:13:52: Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 14:10:22
Quote from: demik on Sat, 01 August 2015, 14:07:34
I'll give it a try. As expected it played gta v horribly.

when you say first gen i5.. you mean like the i5-760 ?
Is there one before that? That might be it. I'm not at home right meow so I can't check.

And I have an asus ROG MOBO. I fell for the gaming ****. So it can overclock.
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 14:19:41: Quote from: demik on Sat, 01 August 2015, 14:13:52
Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 14:10:22
Quote from: demik on Sat, 01 August 2015, 14:07:34
I'll give it a try. As expected it played gta v horribly.

when you say first gen i5.. you mean like the i5-760 ?
Is there one before that? That might be it. I'm not at home right meow so I can't check.

And I have an asus ROG MOBO. I fell for the gaming ****. So it can overclock.

LOL.. yea i'm pretty sure u can OC then..
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: seville57 on Sat, 01 August 2015, 14:35:52: My first SSD was a Intel x25m G2 160GB.

Now I use a old Intel 510 250GB (C) + Intel 730 480GB (F).

WD Velociraptor 1TB (D) + some Asus BD player/burner (E).
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: missalaire on Sat, 01 August 2015, 14:38:04: First SSD was a 96gb Kingston SSDnow Sata II. Currently running a 256gb Samsung 830 and 1tb Samsung 850 EVO.
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: Badwrench on Sat, 01 August 2015, 15:37:22: I started with an intel x25 64gb. Slow, but still way faster than hdd. After upgrading to an 840 evo 256gb (which I still have and it has not been affected by the slowdown issue). The x25 was relegated to my benching rig with a stripped version of win xp and a bunch of benches. When the mobo in the bench rig died I gave the x25 to a friend and it is still going strong.
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: Leslieann on Sat, 01 August 2015, 15:57:40: I got one of the first Intel 40gigs, it was a bit small for my desktop, but wow, what a difference.

At this point I have a 256gig Crucial M4 in the desktop, a 128gig M4 in my laptop, another 128gig M4 in my other laptop. I think the C300 or Intel is in my moms desktop, and I lost track of the other drive. It may be on a shelf or another system, I'm not sure. My servers are still on spinners just due to cost per gig (around 7Tb), but they will get SSD when the price comes down more (most are on Caviar Blacks), by which point I hope 10gigabit ethernet is cheaper, they already saturate gigabit ethernet.
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: eddie on Sat, 01 August 2015, 16:10:06: thinking about buying a kingston v300 or samsung 850 evo. i don't know which to buy :confused:
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 17:29:32: Quote from: eddie on Sat, 01 August 2015, 16:10:06
thinking about buying a kingston v300 or samsung 850 evo. i don't know which to buy :confused:

donot' get v300 get the evo
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 17:31:36: Quote from: Badwrench on Sat, 01 August 2015, 15:37:22
I started with an intel x25 64gb. Slow, but still way faster than hdd. After upgrading to an 840 evo 256gb (which I still have and it has not been affected by the slowdown issue). The x25 was relegated to my benching rig with a stripped version of win xp and a bunch of benches. When the mobo in the bench rig died I gave the x25 to a friend and it is still going strong.

Every evo 840's affected.. so you gotta get the update..
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: swimmingbird on Sat, 01 August 2015, 19:02:44: Not sure if this is correct but I read that the firmware doesn't actually fix the issue
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: zombimuncha on Sat, 01 August 2015, 19:41:47: My offices IT policy is that everyone gets only one machine, and I asked for a desktop, mainly to make it easier to persuade them to buy upgrades for me, but also to facilitate not working outside the office. But I also wanted a laptop so I made friends with the IT guy and got him to give me an old Dell i5 laptop with a 160gb HDD inside. The 160gb quickly became full, and thus horrendously slow, but they wouldn't upgrade it for me because I wasn't even supposed to have that machine. So I bought myself a 240gb crucial ssd and popped it in the work laptop and wow, what a difference! It went from being so slow as to be virtually unusable to being faster and more responsive than my i7 desktop with 3x as much RAM.
I'm still very slightly miffed that I had to pay for an upgrade to a work machine but when I give it back I'll just pop the ssd out and put it in my wife's netbook or something.
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 21:15:37: Quote from: zombimuncha on Sat, 01 August 2015, 19:41:47
My offices IT policy is that everyone gets only one machine, and I asked for a desktop, mainly to make it easier to persuade them to buy upgrades for me, but also to facilitate not working outside the office. But I also wanted a laptop so I made friends with the IT guy and got him to give me an old Dell i5 laptop with a 160gb HDD inside. The 160gb quickly became full, and thus horrendously slow, but they wouldn't upgrade it for me because I wasn't even supposed to have that machine. So I bought myself a 240gb crucial ssd and popped it in the work laptop and wow, what a difference! It went from being so slow as to be virtually unusable to being faster and more responsive than my i7 desktop with 3x as much RAM.
I'm still very slightly miffed that I had to pay for an upgrade to a work machine but when I give it back I'll just pop the ssd out and put it in my wife's netbook or something.

(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/069.gif)

Miffed..

what is the literal meaning of miffed..
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 21:16:39: Quote from: swimmingbird on Sat, 01 August 2015, 19:02:44
Not sure if this is correct but I read that the firmware doesn't actually fix the issue

You are correct..

The firmware is a BALM solution, so it rectifies the Performance loss behavior. However it does not fix the technological flaw which caused the problem..

The major voltage ****s still occur..

The fix comes at a cost as well, reducing the durability of the drive by 30%
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: Evo_Spec on Sat, 01 August 2015, 21:28:14: Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 09:42:30
How could you guys even internet or computer... without SSD......

Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/5c745924.gif)

This sums up my feeling about this topic.

My first SSD was (and still is) a used Intel 330 series 120GB that i got for a good deal of $60 CAD? This was like 2 years ago when 120GB's were $100+ easy
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: njbair on Sat, 01 August 2015, 21:30:58: Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 21:15:37
Miffed..

what is the literal meaning of miffed..

Seems almost onomatopoetic.

*disgusted face* Miff.
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 21:42:48: awefawef
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: zombimuncha on Sun, 02 August 2015, 08:38:16: Quote from: njbair on Sat, 01 August 2015, 21:30:58
Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 21:15:37
Miffed..

what is the literal meaning of miffed..

Seems almost onomatopoetic.

*disgusted face* Miff.

Miffed is quite low on the annoyedness scale, although can be used to describe an annoyance of greater magnitude depending on context. For example the British were quite miffed when the Nazis invaded Poland.
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: absyrd on Sun, 02 August 2015, 11:12:08: x25m 80gb

Changed my life.

Close to losing virginity.
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 02 August 2015, 12:48:46: Quote from: absyrd on Sun, 02 August 2015, 11:12:08
x25m 80gb

Changed my life.

Close to losing virginity.

Hahahhahahahahahahha
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: njbair on Sun, 02 August 2015, 19:54:28: Quote from: absyrd on Sun, 02 August 2015, 11:12:08
Changed my life.

Close to losing virginity.

Re: Your First STD
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 02 August 2015, 19:57:14: Quote from: zombimuncha on Sun, 02 August 2015, 08:38:16
Miffed is quite low on the annoyedness scale,

The English were always the masters of understatement.

I have to laugh when some monumental assault of pain and suffering is referred to as: "a spot of bother"
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: VesperSAINT on Sun, 02 August 2015, 20:41:31: Coincidentally, I received my very first SSD hard drive in the mail this thread opened (August 1st), but only post now because I took a photo of it ~

I want to thank Bro Caps for this beautiful thing <3 All for the sake of loading GTA V faster. LOLOLOL!!!

Ironically, my computer DIED the day before this SSD arrived, and I narrowed it down to it being half of my RAM dying... so I'm on 4GB of RAM now, which means I can't play GTA V until I get more RAM, but at this point, I think I'm just going to build a new PC. My current one is from 2009... ^_^;;

I'll be sure to update when I finally have this SSD up and running!!! I CAN'T WAAAAIIIIITTTT!!!

(http://i.imgur.com/KWGFrf5.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/XHc9m9E.jpg)
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: eddie on Sun, 02 August 2015, 20:45:54: Quote from: VesperSAINT on Sun, 02 August 2015, 20:41:31
Coincidentally, I received my very first SSD hard drive in the mail this thread opened (August 1st), but only post now because I took a photo of it ~

I want to thank Bro Caps for this beautiful thing <3 All for the sake of loading GTA V faster. LOLOLOL!!!

Ironically, my computer DIED the day before this SSD arrived, and I narrowed it down to it being half of my RAM dying... so I'm on 4GB of RAM now, which means I can't play GTA V until I get more RAM, but at this point, I think I'm just going to build a new PC. My current one is from 2009... ^_^;;

I'll be sure to update when I finally have this SSD up and running!!! I CAN'T WAAAAIIIIITTTT!!!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/KWGFrf5.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/XHc9m9E.jpg)

wow i have to pick one of these up... so sexy
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: VesperSAINT on Sun, 02 August 2015, 20:47:37: Quote from: eddie on Sun, 02 August 2015, 20:45:54
wow i have to pick one of these up... so sexy

Most definitely! The presentation and performance (I'm sure) are amazing!

Your avatar is sexy too, btw ~ I use Asuka avatars for about 3-4 months of the year. Every year. LOL <3
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 02 August 2015, 20:49:17: awggghhh..

i'm waiting for the 850pro to come back @ $230 for 512, or the BX100 to come back at $150..

ghh... i should've bought either of those 2 weeks ago.. but I hesitated.. (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_015_orz-v2.gif)
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: VesperSAINT on Sun, 02 August 2015, 20:51:11: Quote from: tp4tissue on Sun, 02 August 2015, 20:49:17
awggghhh..

i'm waiting for the 850pro to come back @ $230 for 512, or the BX100 to come back at $150..

ghh... i should've bought either of those 2 weeks ago.. but I hesitated..
Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_015_orz-v2.gif)

I'm so glad I was able to evoke the feelings of regret, pity, and displeasure in you.

(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11115/111152067/4617071-4344183-7506266510-hue-h.gif)

Look at how pretty it is... LOOK!

Quote from: VesperSAINT on Sun, 02 August 2015, 20:41:31
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Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: Air tree on Sun, 02 August 2015, 21:35:43: Don't listen to vesper, he can make anything look insanely good.

He could make a Razer Blackwidow look like a piece of art... :))

@Tp4, 1TB SSD or bust!
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: demik on Sun, 02 August 2015, 22:14:26: well, nubs hooked it up. he's taking my ssd virginity.
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: Evo_Spec on Sun, 02 August 2015, 22:41:26: Quote from: demik on Sun, 02 August 2015, 22:14:26
well, nubs hooked it up. he's taking my ssd virginity.

Well that's nice, i had to take my own....
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: demik on Sun, 02 August 2015, 23:00:56: i hope it doesn't hurt ;_;
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 02 August 2015, 23:08:45: Quote from: Evo_Spec on Sun, 02 August 2015, 22:41:26
Quote from: demik on Sun, 02 August 2015, 22:14:26
well, nubs hooked it up. he's taking my ssd virginity.

Well that's nice, i had to take my own....

It's nothing fancy. It's a spare I had lying around and I'd recommend using it as a game drive or something once you can afford a good one.
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: demik on Sun, 02 August 2015, 23:11:27: i just want to see if the hype is real
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Mon, 03 August 2015, 00:05:51: Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 01 August 2015, 11:13:18
Quote from: GL1TCH3D on Sat, 01 August 2015, 11:01:01
bought a corsair force GT refurbed for dirt cheap back in the day. Paid $90 for a 120gb SSD when the average price was well over $150 for the average 120gb SSD.

Still works to this day and I use it as my main boot drive. If it ever fails well the only thing lost is a day of reinstalling OS and programs

Make a clone of your boot partition now.. Your down time goes from 1 day to 20 minutes.

Except I like reinstalling my OS every now and then, especially when I'm changing hardware (not that it matters with SSDs though).
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: Evo_Spec on Mon, 03 August 2015, 00:15:02: Quote from: demik on Sun, 02 August 2015, 23:11:27
i just want to see if the hype is real

It's probably the the single best performance boosting thing you'll notice in your life (including an intake/exhaust on your car)
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 03 August 2015, 00:24:06: Quote from: Evo_Spec on Mon, 03 August 2015, 00:15:02
Quote from: demik on Sun, 02 August 2015, 23:11:27
i just want to see if the hype is real

It's probably the the single best performance boosting thing you'll notice in your life (including an intake/exhaust on your car)

Yea man...

SSD speed boost is NOT HYPE...

It's all TOO REAL...

It's like, when you smoke your 15th cigarette, and you start to like it..

But you don't have to cough through the first 14 cigarettes with an SSD, it's instant 15th.
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: Evo_Spec on Mon, 03 August 2015, 00:28:31: Quote from: tp4tissue on Mon, 03 August 2015, 00:24:06
Quote from: Evo_Spec on Mon, 03 August 2015, 00:15:02
Quote from: demik on Sun, 02 August 2015, 23:11:27
i just want to see if the hype is real

It's probably the the single best performance boosting thing you'll notice in your life (including an intake/exhaust on your car)

Yea man...

SSD speed boost is NOT HYPE...

It's all TOO REAL...

It's like, when you smoke your 15th cigarette, and you start to like it..

But you don't have to cough through the first 14 cigarettes with an SSD, it's instant 15th.

This.
There is no hype, only performance.

It'll also make using any non-SSD PC unbearable to use.

My best metaphor would be: It's like trying to use a PC with no internet.
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 03 August 2015, 00:33:26: Quote from: Evo_Spec on Mon, 03 August 2015, 00:28:31
Quote from: tp4tissue on Mon, 03 August 2015, 00:24:06
Quote from: Evo_Spec on Mon, 03 August 2015, 00:15:02
Quote from: demik on Sun, 02 August 2015, 23:11:27
i just want to see if the hype is real

It's probably the the single best performance boosting thing you'll notice in your life (including an intake/exhaust on your car)

Yea man...

SSD speed boost is NOT HYPE...

It's all TOO REAL...

It's like, when you smoke your 15th cigarette, and you start to like it..

But you don't have to cough through the first 14 cigarettes with an SSD, it's instant 15th.

This.
There is no hype, only performance.

It'll also make using any non-SSD PC unbearable to use.

My best metaphor would be: It's like trying to use a PC with no internet.

There is no metaphor, for using a PC without an SSD..

a PC without SSD is in itself the worst thing imaginable.
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: Evo_Spec on Mon, 03 August 2015, 00:35:12: Quote from: tp4tissue on Mon, 03 August 2015, 00:33:26
a PC without SSD is in itself the worst thing imaginable.

It's like continuously peeling tape off your skin.
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 03 August 2015, 00:36:12: Quote from: Evo_Spec on Mon, 03 August 2015, 00:35:12
Quote from: tp4tissue on Mon, 03 August 2015, 00:33:26
a PC without SSD is in itself the worst thing imaginable.

It's like continuously peeling tape off your skin.

Or dying.. it's more like dying than anything else really.
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: Michael on Mon, 03 August 2015, 01:31:42: Solid State Drives were mandated by the US government so that the NSA could read your personal data faster.

(http://i.imgur.com/mFlujWk.jpg)
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: byker on Mon, 03 August 2015, 02:08:18: Quote from: Bro Caps on Mon, 03 August 2015, 01:31:42
Solid State Drives were mandated by the US government so that the NSA could read your personal data faster.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/mFlujWk.jpg)

(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=106501;type=avatar)
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 03 August 2015, 02:11:35: 128gb 840pro

3years of good service.
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: byker on Mon, 03 August 2015, 02:12:18: Quote from: azhdar on Mon, 03 August 2015, 02:11:35
128gb 840pro

3years of good service.

Using the same one right now bae
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 03 August 2015, 02:13:38: Quote from: byker on Mon, 03 August 2015, 02:12:18
Quote from: azhdar on Mon, 03 August 2015, 02:11:35
128gb 840pro

3years of good service.

Using the same one right now bae

arp arp
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 03 August 2015, 08:46:39: So.. I rr.. just bought 2x 480gb Sandisk Extreme Pro..

Now let me explain .. 1 is for my laptop.. and the other for my brother n'law

even though TBH, i don't think the extreme pro is a good fit for mobile.. The price was pretty good and lowest by far for this drive.

it's on the amazon for only $159.99 each, if ya'll r nterested.

I DO FEEL LIKE I'm being tricked somehow, because the price is much lower than I would've expected.

(http://www.vortez.net/articles_file/27245_sandisk_extreme_pro_480gb_intro.jpg)
Title: Re: Your First SSD
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 03 August 2015, 11:25:15: OKOKOKOK...

Serious decision time..

Ebay has 850 EVO for $150 + tax for me

Amazon has the Sand-Extreme Pro for $160 + tax for me..

This is super hard decision...... HALP

(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/e111de78.gif)
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 03 August 2015, 11:36:57: Get an 850 Pro, don't look back.
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 03 August 2015, 11:40:11: Quote from: nubbinator on Mon, 03 August 2015, 11:36:57
Get an 850 Pro, don't look back.

I have a bunch of 850Pros .. but if I were to buy more drives TODAY.. what would I buy.. I wouldn't buy 850Pros at their current price..

So today I have 2 choices.. the $150 850 Evo, or the $160 Sandisk Expro

The extreme pro is a bit more time tested, with MLC and such..

The EVO is slightly faster (but samsung cheats so who knows).. and there's the Whole TLC thing that everyone's still shifty-eyes about..
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 03 August 2015, 11:51:58: (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/3c68bb64.gif)

I said Halp me damnit.. !!!!!!!
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: user 18 on Mon, 03 August 2015, 12:01:36: ~~buy both~~

Not having done much research recently, I would probably buy the Sandisk.
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: Fire Brand on Mon, 03 August 2015, 12:02:04: Get the Sandisk since they use Toshiba memory chips, just down to experience I have had with some of the 1TB Samsung Evos dying on me
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 03 August 2015, 12:02:44: Quote from: tp4tissue on Mon, 03 August 2015, 11:51:58
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I said Halp me damnit.. !!!!!!!

Quote from: VesperSAINT on Sun, 02 August 2015, 20:41:31

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but i know nothing about ssd's :P
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 03 August 2015, 12:07:24: Quote from: Fire Brand on Mon, 03 August 2015, 12:02:04
Get the Sandisk since they use Toshiba memory chips, just down to experience I have had with some of the 1TB Samsung Evos dying on me

the evo 850 or evo 840..
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 03 August 2015, 12:10:07: Quote from: VesperSAINT on Mon, 03 August 2015, 12:02:44
Quote from: tp4tissue on Mon, 03 August 2015, 11:51:58
Show Image
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/3c68bb64.gif)

I said Halp me damnit.. !!!!!!!

Quote from: VesperSAINT on Sun, 02 August 2015, 20:41:31

Show Image
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but i know nothing about ssd's :P

This here.. a biased response.. (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/70bff581.gif)
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: Fire Brand on Mon, 03 August 2015, 16:43:54: Quote from: tp4tissue on Mon, 03 August 2015, 12:07:24
Quote from: Fire Brand on Mon, 03 August 2015, 12:02:04
Get the Sandisk since they use Toshiba memory chips, just down to experience I have had with some of the 1TB Samsung Evos dying on me

the evo 850 or evo 840..
It was a 840 Pro if I remember correct it showed up in the samsung magician software but crashed the system when, running or trying to apply a partion or, even install windows :/
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: missalaire on Mon, 03 August 2015, 17:11:06: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: Air tree on Mon, 03 August 2015, 17:21:26: Quote from: missalaire on Mon, 03 August 2015, 17:11:06
Samsung 850 EVO 500GB
+1
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 03 August 2015, 17:26:09: Quote from: Air tree on Mon, 03 August 2015, 17:21:26
Quote from: missalaire on Mon, 03 August 2015, 17:11:06
Samsung 850 EVO 500GB
+1

Reasons ??
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: eddie on Tue, 04 August 2015, 00:29:22: just ordered an 850 evo 250 gig... hopefully no buyers remorse
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 04 August 2015, 01:28:43: Quote from: eddie on Tue, 04 August 2015, 00:29:22
just ordered an 850 evo 250 gig... hopefully no buyers remorse

why didn't you get the 500GB it was only $150..

How much was the 250?
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: eddie on Tue, 04 August 2015, 02:08:23: 100... used up all my cash having buyers remorse
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: eddie on Tue, 04 August 2015, 02:10:15: canceled
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: FreeCopy on Tue, 04 August 2015, 02:21:06: I recently jumped to an 850 Pro 128GB from an OCZ Agility 2 64GB. It honestly didn't feel like the jump did from HDD to SSD but a noticeable difference indeed.

I think if I were in your shoes right now, I'd go for the Sandisk. I went back and forth between Sandisk, Intel, and Samsung.
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 04 August 2015, 02:21:09: Quote from: eddie on Tue, 04 August 2015, 02:10:15
canceled

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-850-EVO-500GB-2-5-SATA-III-Internal-Solid-State-Drive-MZ-75E500B-AM/391213786572?customid=98c98fce82794712a00566668be255a3&pub=5574652453&afepn=5335869999&campid=5335869999&afepn=5335869999&rmvSB=true

Go here
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: eddie on Tue, 04 August 2015, 02:36:06: Quote from: tp4tissue on Tue, 04 August 2015, 02:21:09
Quote from: eddie on Tue, 04 August 2015, 02:10:15
canceled

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-850-EVO-500GB-2-5-SATA-III-Internal-Solid-State-Drive-MZ-75E500B-AM/391213786572?customid=98c98fce82794712a00566668be255a3&pub=5574652453&afepn=5335869999&campid=5335869999&afepn=5335869999&rmvSB=true

Go here
rip out of stock ill just wait for a while
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: fanpeople on Tue, 04 August 2015, 06:25:57: Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB bought end 2013. I still remember the day that my computer first booted oh the speed literally made me giggle like a school girl. Now I am just have an entitled attitude towards computing speed especially when it takes 5 minutes to log onto work computers.
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 04 August 2015, 09:08:43: Quote from: eddie on Tue, 04 August 2015, 02:36:06
Quote from: tp4tissue on Tue, 04 August 2015, 02:21:09
Quote from: eddie on Tue, 04 August 2015, 02:10:15
canceled

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-850-EVO-500GB-2-5-SATA-III-Internal-Solid-State-Drive-MZ-75E500B-AM/391213786572?customid=98c98fce82794712a00566668be255a3&pub=5574652453&afepn=5335869999&campid=5335869999&afepn=5335869999&rmvSB=true

Go here
rip out of stock ill just wait for a while

No dude.. just order it..

They get new stock fast.. at most a week or two
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: Coreda on Wed, 05 August 2015, 12:37:57: Quote from: tp4tissue on Tue, 04 August 2015, 01:28:43
Quote from: eddie on Tue, 04 August 2015, 00:29:22
just ordered an 850 evo 250 gig... hopefully no buyers remorse

why didn't you get the 500GB it was only $150..

Whaaaaat. Don't dash my hopes like that tp.

Quote from: tp4tissue on Tue, 04 August 2015, 09:08:43
No dude.. just order it..

They get new stock fast.. at most a week or two

Huh, looks like you can place an order when signed in.
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 05 August 2015, 12:40:22: Quote from: Coreda on Wed, 05 August 2015, 12:37:57
Quote from: tp4tissue on Tue, 04 August 2015, 01:28:43
Quote from: eddie on Tue, 04 August 2015, 00:29:22
just ordered an 850 evo 250 gig... hopefully no buyers remorse

why didn't you get the 500GB it was only $150..

Whaaaaat. Don't dash my hopes like that tp.

?

$150 for 500 gb is the going rate right now

the speculation is $130 @ black friday..

But it's prolly gonna be a crummy drive..

we're probably gonna see at best $140 for something like the EVO 500gb
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: Coreda on Wed, 05 August 2015, 12:42:45: Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 05 August 2015, 12:40:22
$150 for 500 gb is the going rate right now

the speculation is $130 @ black friday..

But it's prolly gonna be a crummy drive..

we're probably gonna see at best $140 for something like the EVO 500gb

I clearly haven't been keeping track of prices. This is great news.
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 05 August 2015, 12:43:12: Quote from: Coreda on Wed, 05 August 2015, 12:42:45
Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 05 August 2015, 12:40:22
$150 for 500 gb is the going rate right now

the speculation is $130 @ black friday..

But it's prolly gonna be a crummy drive..

we're probably gonna see at best $140 for something like the EVO 500gb

I clearly haven't been keeping track of prices. This is great news.

yea but, don't bother waiting for black friday "TODAY" lol.. that's stupid..

If you need 1 today, just get it for $150..

There's the BX100 right now at tigerdirect for $170 with $20 mail in rebate, so $150..

It's a great mobile laptop drive(uses less power), but it's not as fast as the Top Shelf guys like 850Pro
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: Coreda on Wed, 05 August 2015, 12:50:19: Cool beans. Was thinking of picking up a larger SSD seeing as the 120GB version is close to full capacity. I'm not that fussed on the extra speed of the Pro, although it is MLC which I know helps with reliability.
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 05 August 2015, 12:54:54: Quote from: Coreda on Wed, 05 August 2015, 12:50:19
Cool beans. Was thinking of picking up a larger SSD seeing as the 120GB version is close to full capacity. I'm not that fussed on the extra speed of the Pro, although it is MLC which I know helps with reliability.

Yea i'm still slightly weary of the TLC myself...

I mean. everyone says the 850evo is ok now.. and I believe it from a technical standpoint...

Buuhhhhhhhh the 840 thing leaves a bad taste in mouth..
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: oledome on Wed, 05 August 2015, 20:41:23: Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 05 August 2015, 12:54:54
Quote from: Coreda on Wed, 05 August 2015, 12:50:19
Cool beans. Was thinking of picking up a larger SSD seeing as the 120GB version is close to full capacity. I'm not that fussed on the extra speed of the Pro, although it is MLC which I know helps with reliability.

Yea i'm still slightly weary of the TLC myself...

I mean. everyone says the 850evo is ok now.. and I believe it from a technical standpoint...

Buuhhhhhhhh the 840 thing leaves a bad taste in mouth..

Eeesh, I picked up a 1TB 850 Evo in the Amazon Prime sale and haven't used it yet, I just couldn't resist that discount, but I'd totally forgotten about the 840 issues.
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 05 August 2015, 20:46:51: Quote from: oledome on Wed, 05 August 2015, 20:41:23
Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 05 August 2015, 12:54:54
Quote from: Coreda on Wed, 05 August 2015, 12:50:19
Cool beans. Was thinking of picking up a larger SSD seeing as the 120GB version is close to full capacity. I'm not that fussed on the extra speed of the Pro, although it is MLC which I know helps with reliability.

Yea i'm still slightly weary of the TLC myself...

I mean. everyone says the 850evo is ok now.. and I believe it from a technical standpoint...

Buuhhhhhhhh the 840 thing leaves a bad taste in mouth..

Eeesh, I picked up a 1TB 850 Evo in the Amazon Prime sale and haven't used it yet, I just couldn't resist that discount, but I'd totally forgotten about the 840 issues.

nah bro, you can go ahead and use it if you got one already..

I'm just paranoid..
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 06 August 2015, 09:50:13: Started with a Crucial M4 (256gb) for my laptop, got a Samsung 840 Pro (128gb) for my desktop and recently upgraded to a Samsung 850 Pro (512gb) for the desktop!
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 06 August 2015, 11:29:00: Quote from: Dreamre on Thu, 06 August 2015, 09:50:13
Started with a Crucial M4 (256gb) for my laptop, got a Samsung 840 Pro (128gb) for my desktop and recently upgraded to a Samsung 850 Pro (512gb) for the desktop!

yeesh.. rich people...
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: Coreda on Sat, 08 August 2015, 19:00:00: Somewhat off-topic but a semi-advantage of HDD over SSD is data recovery. From what I've seen SSD data recovery is a different beast and useless in many cases. It's a more binary 'it works'/'it doesn't' scenario, unlike hard drives that often show signs of failure before giving up.

I can remember an article written by a tech journalist frustrated by several SSD failures within a short time (admittedly rare), none of which could be recovered. Linus Torvalds also famously had his main development SSD fail that wasn't recovered.

Seems like if you don't have a good backup you're screwed with SSDs.
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: Evo_Spec on Sat, 08 August 2015, 21:58:30: Quote from: Coreda on Sat, 08 August 2015, 19:00:00
Somewhat off-topic but a semi-advantage of HDD over SSD is data recovery. From what I've seen SSD data recovery is a different beast and useless in many cases. It's a more binary 'it works'/'it doesn't' scenario, unlike hard drives that often show signs of failure before giving up.

I can remember an article written by a tech journalist frustrated by several SSD failures within a short time (admittedly rare), none of which could be recovered. Linus Torvalds also famously had his main development SSD fail that wasn't recovered.

Seems like if you don't have a good backup you're screwed with SSDs.

I never though about this but this is just what i assumed and assumed other people assumed the same things. I keep all my important stuff on an HDD and OS/Games on my SSD.
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 09 August 2015, 02:05:10: Quote from: Evo_Spec on Sat, 08 August 2015, 21:58:30
Quote from: Coreda on Sat, 08 August 2015, 19:00:00
Somewhat off-topic but a semi-advantage of HDD over SSD is data recovery. From what I've seen SSD data recovery is a different beast and useless in many cases. It's a more binary 'it works'/'it doesn't' scenario, unlike hard drives that often show signs of failure before giving up.

I can remember an article written by a tech journalist frustrated by several SSD failures within a short time (admittedly rare), none of which could be recovered. Linus Torvalds also famously had his main development SSD fail that wasn't recovered.

Seems like if you don't have a good backup you're screwed with SSDs.

I never though about this but this is just what i assumed and assumed other people assumed the same things. I keep all my important stuff on an HDD and OS/Games on my SSD.

That's not an advantage at all..

You don't EVER want to be in the situation where you need a platter scanned.. NEVER

think about how much it costs to scan.. $500-2000

With that kind of money

You can buy 20x 3TB drives and be set for lyfe.. if you backup, it's nearly impossible that all of them will go down.
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: Leslieann on Sun, 09 August 2015, 02:50:48: Quote from: Coreda on Sat, 08 August 2015, 19:00:00
Somewhat off-topic but a semi-advantage of HDD over SSD is data recovery. From what I've seen SSD data recovery is a different beast and useless in many cases. It's a more binary 'it works'/'it doesn't' scenario, unlike hard drives that often show signs of failure before giving up.

I can remember an article written by a tech journalist frustrated by several SSD failures within a short time (admittedly rare), none of which could be recovered. Linus Torvalds also famously had his main development SSD fail that wasn't recovered.

Seems like if you don't have a good backup you're screwed with SSDs.
A lot of the time, it's just a small chip or capacitor that has failed and can be replaced. This happens A LOT on thumbsticks.

Quote from: tp4tissue on Sun, 09 August 2015, 02:05:10
That's not an advantage at all..
You don't EVER want to be in the situation where you need a platter scanned.. NEVER
think about how much it costs to scan.. $500-2000

With that kind of money
You can buy 20x 3TB drives and be set for lyfe.. if you backup, it's nearly impossible that all of them will go down.
And there is usually no guarantee they can recover anything (you still pay).

Get an online remote backup service, pretty much the best bang for the buck. Or roll your own with Crashplan.
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: Coreda on Sun, 09 August 2015, 03:35:16: Quote from: tp4tissue on Sun, 09 August 2015, 02:05:10
You don't EVER want to be in the situation where you need a platter scanned.. NEVER

think about how much it costs to scan.. $500-2000

I've had failed hard drives that I've recovered using free tools like PhotoRec. SpinRite can also be used sometimes. Dedicated disk recovery companies are definitely a last resort. Point was more that recovery seems to be easier from a technology standpoint than SSD and HDDs often give you signs of failure so you can replace them before they die. Backups are still necessary.

Image for Windows is what I use for local backups although it lacks two important things: consecutive scheduled backups and a way to manage deletion of backups older than x number of days. Possible with scripting but haven't spent the time looking into it. They should make it easier.
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: njbair on Sun, 09 August 2015, 13:23:27: Quote from: Leslieann on Sun, 09 August 2015, 02:50:48
Quote from: Coreda on Sat, 08 August 2015, 19:00:00
Somewhat off-topic but a semi-advantage of HDD over SSD is data recovery. From what I've seen SSD data recovery is a different beast and useless in many cases. It's a more binary 'it works'/'it doesn't' scenario, unlike hard drives that often show signs of failure before giving up.

I can remember an article written by a tech journalist frustrated by several SSD failures within a short time (admittedly rare), none of which could be recovered. Linus Torvalds also famously had his main development SSD fail that wasn't recovered.

Seems like if you don't have a good backup you're screwed with SSDs.
A lot of the time, it's just a small chip or capacitor that has failed and can be replaced. This happens A LOT on thumbsticks.

Quote from: tp4tissue on Sun, 09 August 2015, 02:05:10
That's not an advantage at all..
You don't EVER want to be in the situation where you need a platter scanned.. NEVER
think about how much it costs to scan.. $500-2000

With that kind of money
You can buy 20x 3TB drives and be set for lyfe.. if you backup, it's nearly impossible that all of them will go down.
And there is usually no guarantee they can recover anything (you still pay).

Get an online remote backup service, pretty much the best bang for the buck. Or roll your own with Crashplan.

This is the best advice. I use Microsoft Azure cloud backup to back up our whole domain at work. Client machines back up to the server, the server backs up to the cloud (as well as a local external HDD). Extra redundancy, everybody wins.
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 09 August 2015, 14:14:26: Quote from: Coreda on Sun, 09 August 2015, 03:35:16
Quote from: tp4tissue on Sun, 09 August 2015, 02:05:10
You don't EVER want to be in the situation where you need a platter scanned.. NEVER

think about how much it costs to scan.. $500-2000

I've had failed hard drives that I've recovered using free tools like PhotoRec. SpinRite can also be used sometimes. Dedicated disk recovery companies are definitely a last resort. Point was more that recovery seems to be easier from a technology standpoint than SSD and HDDs often give you signs of failure so you can replace them before they die. Backups are still necessary.

Image for Windows is what I use for local backups although it lacks two important things: consecutive scheduled backups and a way to manage deletion of backups older than x number of days. Possible with scripting but haven't spent the time looking into it. They should make it easier.

Dude... Macrium REFLECT... (http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons/tuzki-bunnys/tuzki-bunny-emoticon-043.gif) Macrium Reflect.. !!
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: Coreda on Sun, 09 August 2015, 15:12:09: Quote from: tp4tissue on Sun, 09 August 2015, 14:14:26
Dude... Macrium REFLECT... Macrium Reflect.. !!

Haha, I'll give it a try. Looks to have backup management deletion and the ability to backup multiple drives at once (albeit via xml?) which is what I was looking for. Liking the auto next-day re-scheduling of missed backups, although I do wonder if it offers a way to manually cancel if the computer isn't idle. We'll see ^-^
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 09 August 2015, 16:58:12: Quote from: Coreda on Sun, 09 August 2015, 15:12:09
Quote from: tp4tissue on Sun, 09 August 2015, 14:14:26
Dude... Macrium REFLECT... Macrium Reflect.. !!

Haha, I'll give it a try. Looks to have backup management deletion and the ability to backup multiple drives at once (albeit via xml?) which is what I was looking for. Liking the auto next-day re-scheduling of missed backups, although I do wonder if it offers a way to manually cancel if the computer isn't idle. We'll see ^-^

It's clonin' time !!

(http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons/tuzki-bunnys/tuzki-bunny-emoticon-042.gif)
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: Dreamre on Tue, 11 August 2015, 14:54:43: Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 06 August 2015, 11:29:00
Quote from: Dreamre on Thu, 06 August 2015, 09:50:13
Started with a Crucial M4 (256gb) for my laptop, got a Samsung 840 Pro (128gb) for my desktop and recently upgraded to a Samsung 850 Pro (512gb) for the desktop!

yeesh.. rich people...

Short term pain for the wallet...and long term gain for daily enjoyment of fast PC usage! :p :)) ;D :D
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: eddie on Tue, 11 August 2015, 19:31:41: 850 evo 500 gb first ssd :-\
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 11 August 2015, 20:30:06: Quote from: eddie on Tue, 11 August 2015, 19:31:41
850 evo 500 gb first ssd :-\

Late, but a good start. (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_113_.gif)
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: raymogi on Tue, 11 August 2015, 20:37:34: My first ones gotta be the ones on those Macbook so I forgot which one.

The one I've been using for the past 2 years though is the Intel 520 Series 480GB.
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 11 August 2015, 20:41:17: Quote from: raymogi on Tue, 11 August 2015, 20:37:34
My first ones gotta be the ones on those Macbook so I forgot which one.

The one I've been using for the past 2 years though is the Intel 520 Series 480GB.

sandforce ? hahahahahaha..

I've been so burned by OCZ that I just can't bear the thought of anything with sandforce..

I know it wasn't their fault, but it's been a harrowing experience..
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: raymogi on Tue, 11 August 2015, 20:44:09: Yeah probably. I think some of them have Samsung too.

I got SSD on my Razer Blade and Alienwares too, and I think those are much better than the Macbook ones.
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: Leslieann on Wed, 12 August 2015, 05:57:42: Quote from: tp4tissue on Tue, 11 August 2015, 20:41:17
sandforce ? hahahahahaha..

I've been so burned by OCZ that I just can't bear the thought of anything with sandforce..

I know it wasn't their fault, but it's been a harrowing experience..
Not only were they not at fault, they told OCZ not to use the settings they used. It was disabled for a reason.
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 12 August 2015, 09:45:09: Quote from: Leslieann on Wed, 12 August 2015, 05:57:42
Quote from: tp4tissue on Tue, 11 August 2015, 20:41:17
sandforce ? hahahahahaha..

I've been so burned by OCZ that I just can't bear the thought of anything with sandforce..

I know it wasn't their fault, but it's been a harrowing experience..
Not only were they not at fault, they told OCZ not to use the settings they used. It was disabled for a reason.

Everytime I hear OCZ.. I get an anxiety rush....

I used to wear their T-shirts in highschool too.. back in the day with the DDR ram, Ocz platinum rev 2.0. overclocked to DDR600.. SOOoooo FAST...
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: Evo_Spec on Wed, 12 August 2015, 11:31:15: Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 12 August 2015, 09:45:09
Quote from: Leslieann on Wed, 12 August 2015, 05:57:42
Quote from: tp4tissue on Tue, 11 August 2015, 20:41:17
sandforce ? hahahahahaha..

I've been so burned by OCZ that I just can't bear the thought of anything with sandforce..

I know it wasn't their fault, but it's been a harrowing experience..
Not only were they not at fault, they told OCZ not to use the settings they used. It was disabled for a reason.

Everytime I hear OCZ.. I get an anxiety rush....

I used to wear their T-shirts in highschool too.. back in the day with the DDR ram, Ocz platinum rev 2.0. overclocked to DDR600.. SOOoooo FAST...

So this comment just made me really look into that ridiculously priced RAM that i was talking to you about on skype, the one that i could never fully utilize because my CPU clock speed couldn't overclock that high and i'm seriously appalled at my teenage actions....

I'm still not sure what the exact model # was but from the order confirmation email i got was: "OCZ - 2GB PC3-16000 Platinum Edition Dual Channel DDR3 Kit (2 x 1GB) ( $274.95 )"
What the hell was wrong with me....Even now i remember that being the time that 4GB kits were popular and generally cheap, but i remember being so set on a 2GB kit....why.....WHY!!!!
To put things into perspectives, i also bought a "BFG - GeForce 9800 GTX OCX 512MB ( $549.90 )" in this build. My ****ing ram was half the cost of my video card....
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 12 August 2015, 12:12:34: Quote from: Evo_Spec on Wed, 12 August 2015, 11:31:15
Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 12 August 2015, 09:45:09
Quote from: Leslieann on Wed, 12 August 2015, 05:57:42
Quote from: tp4tissue on Tue, 11 August 2015, 20:41:17
sandforce ? hahahahahaha..

I've been so burned by OCZ that I just can't bear the thought of anything with sandforce..

I know it wasn't their fault, but it's been a harrowing experience..
Not only were they not at fault, they told OCZ not to use the settings they used. It was disabled for a reason.

Everytime I hear OCZ.. I get an anxiety rush....

I used to wear their T-shirts in highschool too.. back in the day with the DDR ram, Ocz platinum rev 2.0. overclocked to DDR600.. SOOoooo FAST...

So this comment just made me really look into that ridiculously priced RAM that i was talking to you about on skype, the one that i could never fully utilize because my CPU clock speed couldn't overclock that high and i'm seriously appalled at my teenage actions....

I'm still not sure what the exact model # was but from the order confirmation email i got was: "OCZ - 2GB PC3-16000 Platinum Edition Dual Channel DDR3 Kit (2 x 1GB) ( $274.95 )"
What the hell was wrong with me....Even now i remember that being the time that 4GB kits were popular and generally cheap, but i remember being so set on a 2GB kit....why.....WHY!!!!
To put things into perspectives, i also bought a "BFG - GeForce 9800 GTX OCX 512MB ( $549.90 )" in this build. My ****ing ram was half the cost of my video card....

haha..

Well depending on when you got the PC3 16000, it used to be "FAST"

Back then the smaller sticks also ran much faster than the larger ones..

Now everything is 2400mhz... which is PC3 19200
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: Evo_Spec on Wed, 12 August 2015, 12:45:09: Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 12 August 2015, 12:12:34
Quote from: Evo_Spec on Wed, 12 August 2015, 11:31:15
Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 12 August 2015, 09:45:09
Quote from: Leslieann on Wed, 12 August 2015, 05:57:42
Quote from: tp4tissue on Tue, 11 August 2015, 20:41:17
sandforce ? hahahahahaha..

I've been so burned by OCZ that I just can't bear the thought of anything with sandforce..

I know it wasn't their fault, but it's been a harrowing experience..
Not only were they not at fault, they told OCZ not to use the settings they used. It was disabled for a reason.

Everytime I hear OCZ.. I get an anxiety rush....

I used to wear their T-shirts in highschool too.. back in the day with the DDR ram, Ocz platinum rev 2.0. overclocked to DDR600.. SOOoooo FAST...

So this comment just made me really look into that ridiculously priced RAM that i was talking to you about on skype, the one that i could never fully utilize because my CPU clock speed couldn't overclock that high and i'm seriously appalled at my teenage actions....

I'm still not sure what the exact model # was but from the order confirmation email i got was: "OCZ - 2GB PC3-16000 Platinum Edition Dual Channel DDR3 Kit (2 x 1GB) ( $274.95 )"
What the hell was wrong with me....Even now i remember that being the time that 4GB kits were popular and generally cheap, but i remember being so set on a 2GB kit....why.....WHY!!!!
To put things into perspectives, i also bought a "BFG - GeForce 9800 GTX OCX 512MB ( $549.90 )" in this build. My ****ing ram was half the cost of my video card....

haha..

Well depending on when you got the PC3 16000, it used to be "FAST"

Back then the smaller sticks also ran much faster than the larger ones..

Now everything is 2400mhz... which is PC3 19200
The email is dated 7/3/2008.
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 12 August 2015, 15:54:52: Quote from: Evo_Spec on Wed, 12 August 2015, 12:45:09
Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 12 August 2015, 12:12:34
Quote from: Evo_Spec on Wed, 12 August 2015, 11:31:15
Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 12 August 2015, 09:45:09
Quote from: Leslieann on Wed, 12 August 2015, 05:57:42
Quote from: tp4tissue on Tue, 11 August 2015, 20:41:17
sandforce ? hahahahahaha..

I've been so burned by OCZ that I just can't bear the thought of anything with sandforce..

I know it wasn't their fault, but it's been a harrowing experience..
Not only were they not at fault, they told OCZ not to use the settings they used. It was disabled for a reason.

Everytime I hear OCZ.. I get an anxiety rush....

I used to wear their T-shirts in highschool too.. back in the day with the DDR ram, Ocz platinum rev 2.0. overclocked to DDR600.. SOOoooo FAST...

So this comment just made me really look into that ridiculously priced RAM that i was talking to you about on skype, the one that i could never fully utilize because my CPU clock speed couldn't overclock that high and i'm seriously appalled at my teenage actions....

I'm still not sure what the exact model # was but from the order confirmation email i got was: "OCZ - 2GB PC3-16000 Platinum Edition Dual Channel DDR3 Kit (2 x 1GB) ( $274.95 )"
What the hell was wrong with me....Even now i remember that being the time that 4GB kits were popular and generally cheap, but i remember being so set on a 2GB kit....why.....WHY!!!!
To put things into perspectives, i also bought a "BFG - GeForce 9800 GTX OCX 512MB ( $549.90 )" in this build. My ****ing ram was half the cost of my video card....

haha..

Well depending on when you got the PC3 16000, it used to be "FAST"

Back then the smaller sticks also ran much faster than the larger ones..

Now everything is 2400mhz... which is PC3 19200
The email is dated 7/3/2008.

hahah, that was at the near beginning of ddr3..
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: Evo_Spec on Wed, 12 August 2015, 21:39:30: Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 12 August 2015, 15:54:52
Quote from: Evo_Spec on Wed, 12 August 2015, 12:45:09
Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 12 August 2015, 12:12:34
Quote from: Evo_Spec on Wed, 12 August 2015, 11:31:15
Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 12 August 2015, 09:45:09
Quote from: Leslieann on Wed, 12 August 2015, 05:57:42
Quote from: tp4tissue on Tue, 11 August 2015, 20:41:17
sandforce ? hahahahahaha..

I've been so burned by OCZ that I just can't bear the thought of anything with sandforce..

I know it wasn't their fault, but it's been a harrowing experience..
Not only were they not at fault, they told OCZ not to use the settings they used. It was disabled for a reason.

Everytime I hear OCZ.. I get an anxiety rush....

I used to wear their T-shirts in highschool too.. back in the day with the DDR ram, Ocz platinum rev 2.0. overclocked to DDR600.. SOOoooo FAST...

So this comment just made me really look into that ridiculously priced RAM that i was talking to you about on skype, the one that i could never fully utilize because my CPU clock speed couldn't overclock that high and i'm seriously appalled at my teenage actions....

I'm still not sure what the exact model # was but from the order confirmation email i got was: "OCZ - 2GB PC3-16000 Platinum Edition Dual Channel DDR3 Kit (2 x 1GB) ( $274.95 )"
What the hell was wrong with me....Even now i remember that being the time that 4GB kits were popular and generally cheap, but i remember being so set on a 2GB kit....why.....WHY!!!!
To put things into perspectives, i also bought a "BFG - GeForce 9800 GTX OCX 512MB ( $549.90 )" in this build. My ****ing ram was half the cost of my video card....

haha..

Well depending on when you got the PC3 16000, it used to be "FAST"

Back then the smaller sticks also ran much faster than the larger ones..

Now everything is 2400mhz... which is PC3 19200
The email is dated 7/3/2008.

hahah, that was at the near beginning of ddr3..
Yeah I the beginning of DDR3 and the end of socket 775 lol
Title: Re: Your First SSD - Halp TP make Super hard decision NAO..
Post by: Coreda on Fri, 14 August 2015, 12:05:27: Reflect has pretty limited custom filename formatting. Seems to append a four digit date to the end (?, yet to complete a test backup). Image for Windows got that right at least with the ability to set date/time filename formatting.