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Title: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: Jokrik on Tue, 18 August 2015, 03:22:38
(http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh495/jokrik89/Mech%20Keyboard/FB_IMG_1439885936255_zpsxzkifhlq.jpg) (http://s1248.photobucket.com/user/jokrik89/media/Mech%20Keyboard/FB_IMG_1439885936255_zpsxzkifhlq.jpg.html)

Split board.... Exciting?

More here:
https://m.facebook.com/Vortexgear
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: azhdar on Tue, 18 August 2015, 03:26:03
And switches that seem to be gaterons.
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: bueller on Tue, 18 August 2015, 03:29:00
Sweet. Shame about the Gaterons, hopefully they offer it with Clears too.
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: Jokrik on Tue, 18 August 2015, 03:37:21
Clicky lovers wouldn't mind gateron blues though, they're crisp and nice
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: bueller on Tue, 18 August 2015, 03:46:47
I feel like this is an April's fools joke, I've wanted this exact same layout for years and I can't believe someone is actually making it. Was a huge fan of the Microsoft ergo boards back in the day, always longed for a mechanical alternative.
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: apolotary on Tue, 18 August 2015, 03:51:53
If I can stick it back together, I'm in. Too bad their international shipping prices are crazy though
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: bueller on Tue, 18 August 2015, 03:53:30
If I can stick it back together, I'm in. Too bad their international shipping prices are crazy though

(http://i.imgur.com/6HTsfyJ.jpg)
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: apolotary on Tue, 18 August 2015, 04:00:16
If I can stick it back together, I'm in. Too bad their international shipping prices are crazy though

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/6HTsfyJ.jpg)


Yes that's what I was referring to. However, I can't see any hinges / docking(?) parts in the OP photo. Also what happens with custom sets? Do I stick in two shift keycaps now?
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: bueller on Tue, 18 August 2015, 04:02:52
If I can stick it back together, I'm in. Too bad their international shipping prices are crazy though

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/6HTsfyJ.jpg)


Yes that's what I was referring to. However, I can't see any hinges / docking(?) parts in the OP photo. Also what happens with custom sets? Do I stick in two shift keycaps now?

The space bar is definitely a bit of a concern. I'm hoping if these get a full release I can con Bunny into getting JT Keycaps to run some in common colours.
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: azhdar on Tue, 18 August 2015, 04:04:01
do you guys thinks the 3 holes on bottom right are indicators leds?

Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: bueller on Tue, 18 August 2015, 04:10:01
do you guys thinks the 3 holes on bottom right are indicators leds?



I'd say so. Probably caps lock, fn lock and the led to signify using the bottom right mods as arrows. At least these were the old indicators on my Pure.
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: bueller on Tue, 18 August 2015, 04:12:04
SO glad they put the 6 on the right hand side of the board, this was my biggest gripe with the Microsoft boards when I used them.
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: boTy on Tue, 18 August 2015, 05:59:52
The base of the switches kind of look like the glass fiber reinforced base of Cherry silenced Red RGB switches.
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 18 August 2015, 06:10:19
Reminds me of the Ultimate Hacking Keyboard. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59712.0

Did those guys sell their design to Vortex?
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: Polymer on Tue, 18 August 2015, 06:27:16
SO glad they put the 6 on the right hand side of the board, this was my biggest gripe with the Microsoft boards when I used them.

That's what I don't like about it :).

I know you're "supposed" to hit 6 with your right hand but that doesn't even make sense..it is closer to your left hand...
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 18 August 2015, 06:28:53
I hope this will be in the same price range a the Poker III.

If it is not considerably more expensive I'll definitely buy one.
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: bueller on Tue, 18 August 2015, 06:47:50
I hope this will be in the same price range a the Poker III.

If it is not considerably more expensive I'll definitely buy one.

Yeah I was pretty firmly set on not buying any more boards now I have a couple of customs but if the firmware is good and they're available with Cherry switches then this will get me.
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: absyrd on Tue, 18 August 2015, 06:55:49
Yeah I was pretty firmly set on not buying any more boards

Yep. This is so tempting.
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: dante on Tue, 18 August 2015, 08:57:06
Sweet. Shame about the Gaterons, hopefully they offer it with Clears too.

**** Cherry

Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: bueller on Tue, 18 August 2015, 09:18:34
Sweet. Shame about the Gaterons, hopefully they offer it with Clears too.

**** Cherry



Okay?
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 18 August 2015, 10:18:38
Interesting that the sides don't connect to each other but each connect to the computer. Gotta use 2 USB ports??
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: jbondeson on Tue, 18 August 2015, 10:23:02
Reminds me of the Ultimate Hacking Keyboard. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59712.0

Did those guys sell their design to Vortex?

Doesn't seem to have any of the guide rods or interlocking mechanism that the UHK have. I know this is probably a prototype, but I'm also surprised that both halves are wired for usb completely independently. I think that would force drivers to be installed and do more work to utilize cross-half chords to work.
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: Steezus on Tue, 18 August 2015, 10:23:48
Looks like it could be a problem for some people with laptops since it takes up two USB ports. I can also see complications trying to put on custom key sets with a split space bar. My main question is how do the two boards lock together for normal use or travel?
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 18 August 2015, 10:34:41
Interesting that the sides don't connect to each other but each connect to the computer. Gotta use 2 USB ports??

I think they should just make the entire thing wireless. :D
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 18 August 2015, 10:35:50

Interesting that the sides don't connect to each other but each connect to the computer. Gotta use 2 USB ports??

I think they should just make the entire thing wireless. :D

I think they should make YOU wireless.


Wait. That makes no sense.
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: Remenition on Tue, 18 August 2015, 10:53:55
Looks like it could be a problem for some people with laptops since it takes up two USB ports. I can also see complications trying to put on custom key sets with a split space bar. My main question is how do the two boards lock together for normal use or travel?
couldn't they just connect it to one usb port?
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 18 August 2015, 10:57:56
I really love using my Pokers with my tablets. I get a great screen and a great keyboard in a portable package. But almost all of them have only 1 USB port. It's a non-starter for me.
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: dante on Tue, 18 August 2015, 12:19:13
The split keyboard thing doesn't do it for me.  What I'd like to see Vortex develop is a super easy to use GUI app for quickly programming the keyboard on the fly; with a load/save/clone feature to quickly reprogram multiple pokers at a time.

That and a Poker w/ Purple Gaterons.
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: Steezus on Tue, 18 August 2015, 12:44:54
The split keyboard thing doesn't do it for me.  What I'd like to see Vortex develop is a super easy to use GUI app for quickly programming the keyboard on the fly; with a load/save/clone feature to quickly reprogram multiple pokers at a time.

That and a Poker w/ Purple Gaterons.

I wouldn't necessarily like an app to program because then I'll need to download it on each computer I use and have it programmed through the software rather built into the keyboard that works on the fly no matter what computer you plug it into.

Looks like it could be a problem for some people with laptops since it takes up two USB ports. I can also see complications trying to put on custom key sets with a split space bar. My main question is how do the two boards lock together for normal use or travel?
couldn't they just connect it to one usb port?

They sure could but I think their current theory is to have the two halves completely separate. It's still in prototype stage so I wouldn't count on the current looks and features.
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: dante on Tue, 18 August 2015, 12:55:05
The split keyboard thing doesn't do it for me.  What I'd like to see Vortex develop is a super easy to use GUI app for quickly programming the keyboard on the fly; with a load/save/clone feature to quickly reprogram multiple pokers at a time.

That and a Poker w/ Purple Gaterons.

I wouldn't necessarily like an app to program because then I'll need to download it on each computer I use and have it programmed through the software rather built into the keyboard that works on the fly no matter what computer you plug it into.


I don't care if you can program it using the two methods and you can always host the app on a personal site somewhere or put it on a flash drive.  Perhaps even web driven?
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: KRKS on Tue, 18 August 2015, 13:03:25
If I can stick it back together, I'm in. Too bad their international shipping prices are crazy though

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/6HTsfyJ.jpg)


Yes that's what I was referring to. However, I can't see any hinges / docking(?) parts in the OP photo. Also what happens with custom sets? Do I stick in two shift keycaps now?

The space bar is definitely a bit of a concern. I'm hoping if these get a full release I can con Bunny into getting JT Keycaps to run some in common colours.

Seems to be 3u on the left and 3.25u on the right.

I guess this means vortex spacebars for Minila, yay!
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: Merlijn on Tue, 18 August 2015, 13:55:42
Damn, just a few days after I bought a Pok3r :(
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: Steezus on Tue, 18 August 2015, 14:09:32
Damn, just a few days after I bought a Pok3r :(

Pok3r LED version is not even released yet, it's going to be awhile before the Poker 4 will be released to the public.
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: Herothereu on Tue, 18 August 2015, 17:07:30
Vortex may never ship this.
Title: Split Poker?
Post by: ergo_typing on Thu, 20 August 2015, 07:16:05
Mod edit: Reply #34 is merged from a duplicate thread on the topic.

Has anyone heard any more details about this potential split Poker keyboard?

https://www.facebook.com/Vortexgear/photos/pcb.911792815555096/911792675555110/?type=1&permPage=1

Looks like they're using a TSSR cable for the interconnect and the Poker 2 style plastic case? Just an experiment or maybe something that will turn into a real product?
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: batfink on Fri, 21 August 2015, 11:17:46
The split keyboard thing doesn't do it for me.

Crazy talk. How is it possible to not want a split space bar? Even if you think you have no need for it, it certainly wouldn't do any harm as if both sides produce a space it would be the same as any other board.

On the other hand, with this keyboard maybe you might just think of a use for your left thumb instead of inefficiently doing nothing. Perhaps a backspace. Perhaps an easier Shift key which doesn't need pinkies. Maybe even a SpaceFN key (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51069.msg1581402#msg1581402).

The critical thing would be to have independently settable codes for left and right space bars.



Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 21 August 2015, 11:51:29
The split keyboard thing doesn't do it for me.

Crazy talk. How is it possible to not want a split space bar? Even if you think you have no need for it, it certainly wouldn't do any harm as if both sides produce a space it would be the same as any other board.

On the other hand, with this keyboard maybe you might just think of a use for your left thumb instead of inefficiently doing nothing. Perhaps a backspace. Perhaps an easier Shift key which doesn't need pinkies. Maybe even a SpaceFN key (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51069.msg1581402#msg1581402).

The critical thing would be to have independently settable codes for left and right space bars.





I don't want it because you can't buy a new keyset and saw the spacebar in half....
Title: Split Poker keyboard
Post by: naz on Fri, 21 August 2015, 14:53:51
Mod edit: Replies #37-41 are merged from a duplicate thread on the topic.

Hello,

Today Vortex posted this picture on their facebook page.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/11902228_911792655555112_5339818691033892151_n.jpg?oh=012f1d31e66879385308c85eba43220b&oe=567B054B&__gda__=1451154422_e9eaf50ef2cc698e94e0999852a763ad)

At first i just noticed the dual space bar (which is great and all keyboads should adopt this), but there is also a separation above, between 5 and 6 keys. So this looks like a fully split keyboard.


Later today they updated another photo, confirming the 60% split poker!.

(https://scontent-gru1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/11855819_911792675555110_1122242400433462560_n.jpg?oh=08e35604886e64e4dfc631cbc76c33b0&oe=56789CE2)

Regards!

Title: Re: Split Poker keyboard
Post by: bcredbottle on Fri, 21 August 2015, 14:59:44
Awesome!

P.S.
This was posted on Reddit and the general consensus was "Who cares about a split board? I just want one with LEDs."
WTF? Like what the actual ****.
Title: Re: Split Poker keyboard
Post by: Coreda on Fri, 21 August 2015, 15:02:34
Just make it Bluetooth already. Two cords is just ugh.
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: natas206 on Fri, 21 August 2015, 15:05:24
I wonder if they will ever release this.
Title: Re: Split Poker keyboard
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 21 August 2015, 15:14:06

Awesome!

P.S.
This was posted on Reddit and the general consensus was "Who cares about a split board? I just want one with LEDs."
WTF? Like what the actual ****.

That doesn't surprise me. At all.
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 21 August 2015, 15:39:47
Whoa!  Neat design.  :thumb:  Cool to see Vortex playing with ideas like this.
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: KRKS on Sat, 22 August 2015, 01:37:35
The split keyboard thing doesn't do it for me.

Crazy talk. How is it possible to not want a split space bar?

Don't know about dante, but I hit space between V and B, slightly closer towards B, which is too close to the split in AFAIK all of the split spacebar boards. I wouldn't mind a small spacebar, but only when it doesn't force me to curl up my thumbs.
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: Niomosy on Sat, 22 August 2015, 02:45:56
SO glad they put the 6 on the right hand side of the board, this was my biggest gripe with the Microsoft boards when I used them.

Kills my interest in it.  That 6 on the left was critical for me for gaming.  On the right?  I'll just find another board.
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: batfink on Sun, 23 August 2015, 08:10:45
Don't know about dante, but I hit space between V and B, slightly closer towards B, which is too close to the split in AFAIK all of the split spacebar boards. I wouldn't mind a small spacebar, but only when it doesn't force me to curl up my thumbs.
You'd be able to use your left thumb with this board I would have thought. You could probably argue it might be better if the spacebar on this design was split exactly between the B and the N though.

I don't want it because you can't buy a new keyset and saw the spacebar in half....
Hmmm I get that people like to customize their keyboards... but still... when you consider the potential benefits of two comfortable thumb keys.
Surely having much improved function would always outweigh the relative triviality of improved appearance? For me it would anyway.
Plus, if split keyboards became more common, it would soon become easy to source replacement space keys!

Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 24 August 2015, 17:40:30


Hmmm I get that people like to customize their keyboards... but still... when you consider the potential benefits of two comfortable thumb keys.
Surely having much improved function would always outweigh the relative triviality of improved appearance? For me it would anyway.
Plus, if split keyboards became more common, it would soon become easy to source replacement space keys!

Thanks for the advice but appearance isn't the only reason people change their keysets :rolleyes:
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: 108 on Mon, 24 August 2015, 18:01:29
That looks very... interesting. I like that Vortex is trying new things! :thumb:
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: Zealousy on Tue, 25 August 2015, 00:00:09
What an intriguing design. I like that someone is pushing the boundaries of what mechanical keyboards are all about in what feels sometimes like a stagnant industry  :thumb:
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: OTD on Tue, 25 August 2015, 00:36:58
pok3r looks cleaner I think
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: Steezus on Tue, 25 August 2015, 19:35:12
pok3r looks cleaner I think

This is also a prototype, I doubt they will use all the same components. I hope it comes with a metal case otherwise there really wouldn't be any case options for it, at first.
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: Kliwon on Tue, 25 August 2015, 20:39:19
interested to see, with dyesub PBT
but the shape, less attractive  :(
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: Ngt on Wed, 26 August 2015, 07:50:52
I'd prefer a fully programmable (remap Fn etc.) Poker than a split one.
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: jerue on Wed, 26 August 2015, 19:18:25
I'd prefer a fully programmable (remap Fn etc.) Poker than a split one.

Who is to say we can't dream of both...  ^-^

(http://new1.funnyjunk.com/thumbnails/comments/Doesn+t+everyone+get+enjoyment+from+both+making+people+laugh+and+_82b0c6d63d8aed98c9337b5d5d442fd6.gif)
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 27 August 2015, 05:09:32
Not interested... if you're going ergo, go all the way.

I like the Gaterons, though. Smoother than Cherry, just don't get the Browns. In fact, just go straight for Zealios! :)
Title: Re: POKER IV photo teaser
Post by: Ngt on Thu, 27 August 2015, 06:15:40
I'd prefer a fully programmable (remap Fn etc.) Poker than a split one.

Who is to say we can't dream of both...  ^-^

Show Image
(http://new1.funnyjunk.com/thumbnails/comments/Doesn+t+everyone+get+enjoyment+from+both+making+people+laugh+and+_82b0c6d63d8aed98c9337b5d5d442fd6.gif)



Indeed.