Good old Logitech; leaders of innovation in the art of turd-polishing. It looks quite nice and i'd like back-lit keys but not with their current rubber-dome technology. I know Deck makes back-lit keyboards but as far as I know they don't have a UK variant.
Why are you guys so attached to that silly upside-down-L-shaped enter key?
It's not silly really. The layout of most keyboards is fairly arbitrary with the aim of slowing down the typist; there's little logic involved to begin with, so who's to say that one layout is sillier than another? I'd speculate that the reason the US layout doesn't have an L-shaped key is for cost-cutting, since one would expect it to be cheaper to assemble a keyboard using fewer different molds. Considering how cheap most keyboards are nowadays, this is probably less of a factor than it may have been.(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/KB_US-Colemak.svg/800px-KB_US-Colemak.svg.png)
Frankly, I don't want a UK layout because of the Enter key, but because of the different positions of other standard keys. Yes, they could be remapped but even then certain keys would be in different positions. I don't want to go through the hassle of re-training my fingers.
LOL - I think BigWopHH posted this hoping to get some N-key hate from Geekhackers and instead gets ISO vs ANSI International ENTER key wars.
That HHKB2 is silliest.
Only one keyboard can be converted to US, Int'l and HHKB2 layout with a little bit of elbow grease.
Not a gamer, so this is an honest question: Since it seems to be only about the four keys WASD, why do all the keys have to be the gaming kind? Indeed, wouldn't a dedicated fourkey be a more efficient and pertinent solution to gaming needs than to have an entire keyboard pessimized for typing?
Not a gamer, so this is an honest question: Since it seems to be only about the four keys WASD, why do all the keys have to be the gaming kind? Indeed, wouldn't a dedicated fourkey be a more efficient and pertinent solution to gaming needs than to have an entire keyboard pessimized for typing?
As far as I'm aware, there doesn't exist a mass-produced gaming keypad with mechanical switches.
Not a gamer, so this is an honest question: Since it seems to be only about the four keys WASD, why do all the keys have to be the gaming kind?You need to do lots of things at once.
You need to do lots of things at once.
Moving diagonally = 2 direction keys
Crouch, speed up, fire, jump etc = lots of other keys you may need to press at the same time.
The bottom line is that a keyboard based on electrical-contact switches without true n-key rollover WILL go wrong with certain combinations of just 3 keys.
So any "gaming" keyboard that forces you to choose key bindings based on what doesn't fail - and you need to test this thoroughly to be sure - isn't really bringing much to the table in gaming terms. It's poorly though out design and shoddy marketing.
it fails.
yeah but only a noob would use ARROW KEYS true gaymers use WASD, ALWAYS
The bottom line is that a keyboard based on electrical-contact switches without true n-key rollover WILL go wrong with certain combinations of just 3 keys.
So any "gaming" keyboard that forces you to choose key bindings based on what doesn't fail - and you need to test this thoroughly to be sure - isn't really bringing much to the table in gaming terms.
It's poorly though out design and shoddy marketing.
Most keyboards have a built in gaming pad - the keypad. Try using the mouse in your left hand and map your commands like this:
mouse - fine movement
button1 - fire
button2 - alt fire
scroll wheel - switch weapon
keypad
1 - strafe left
2 - move backwards
3 - strafe right
4 - turn left
5 - center view
6 - turn right
8 - move forwards
Enter - jump
unmapped: / * - + . 0 7 9
i guess i dont feel like having to have a second device for a certain type of software really makes sense... especially when my keyboard is not 'crippled' in some regards just because i can use it well for one purpose.
especially when "games" is very broad. WASD is for FPS. a lot of games the keyboard is used quite a bit for chat/communication. some games require quick strokes across the whole keyboard, not just a small cluster (RTS).
and then there has to be the whole buying standards vs price vs manufacturing arguments and decisions all over again. mechanical vs membrane. printed vs dyesub vs double-shot. NKRO. etc.
i dont get it... why do this?
I use the Backspace a lot myself too, strangely enough. I was talking about the Backslash. LOL yes, world peace under an American banner. JIS and DIN and every other standard is irrelevant. We Brits are a funny bunch; we also drive on the wrong side of the road. So do a lot of other countries that used to be in our empire and even some that aren't. There are some vague historical reasons for this but they don't have much relevance these days. We're all quite mad and yet by some miracle still manage to operate motor vehicles quite well (OK, maybe not France or Italy if what i've heard is true). These sorts of differences which you seem to find so abhorrent don't impede us in any way. Who are you to decide how much of a "landing zone" is needed for a key, or that "there's no need for it"? Human beings don't come off a production line in just one size, and I doubt you've surveyed millions of human beings to discover what the ideal "pinkie landing zone" is for various keys. Coupled with that famed human attribute of adaptability and the size of the Enter key becomes moot.
One is far more popular because there are more of you than us. The smaller nations aren't as economically powerful so maybe it's easier for them to go with the flow. I don't know who decided we should have that bloody big key, but you'd think that as the second most populous natively-English speaking nation we'd have some more sway with what manufacturers produce.
Is there really a point to the UK layout?
No vertical enter. Somebody send me a key and I'll see if I like it.
I don't think there is any advantage tbh. I'd be happy with a normal-key-sized Enter key, ideally right next to the quotes key, freeing up space for another key to the right of it (bit like on your keyboard.)
The Enter key is not as 'special' as it used to be, I don't think it deserves so much space nowadays.
I don't know what you think makes it less special, with growing interest into Linux and other free Operating Systems, it is still a very important key.
World peace dude.
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