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geekhack Community => Off Topic => Topic started by: Belfong on Fri, 28 August 2015, 21:23:06

Title: Peaceful demonstration
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 28 August 2015, 21:23:06
So, later today, my wife and I are going to the streets - to joined hundreds of thousands of Malaysians for a peaceful demonstration against the corrupted government. The biggest issue so far is fighting for a free voice in this so-called democracy. And of course to force our prime minister to answer to a recent "donation, he claimed" of US$700M that was deposited into his personal account. When his top officials, including his Deputy Prime Minister is calling him out, he sacked him. And also proceed to sack the Accountant General. This freak is bleeding the country dry and is getting away with it. If there is a tyrant in a banana republic, Malaysia is currently emerging as the champion. Wish me luck!

I should add: read here for Live feed from our local news
http://live.malaysiakini.com/en/bersih4/

I need to come back to see my CC and V2 collection :P
Title: Re: Peaceful demonstration
Post by: trenzafeeds on Fri, 28 August 2015, 21:28:19
Viel Glück! Always awesome to see a peaceful, thoughtful protest. The only way to create lasting peace is using peaceful means!
Title: Re: Peaceful demonstration
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 28 August 2015, 21:35:08
Yeah, except that the people are peaceful but the government is going to use force.

We are prepared to face arrest and tear gas. In the past years, this tyrant ordered tear gas to be fired onto the crowd!

The streets are now filled with army trucks and police.

If you are in Twitter, follow me as I try to live blog. My handle is @Belf0ng

Or follow #bersih4
Bersih is Malay word for Clean. It's the fourth one we have done so far.
Title: Re: Peaceful demonstration
Post by: trenzafeeds on Fri, 28 August 2015, 21:40:37
I'm going to bed soon, but I'll do my best to keep up to date. Stay strong!
Title: Re: Peaceful demonstration
Post by: Air tree on Fri, 28 August 2015, 21:55:15
Good luck man.

I hope it doesn't get too ugly for you and everyone else there.  :(
Title: Re: Peaceful demonstration
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 28 August 2015, 21:57:06
Hahaha..

Nothing will change..  You're wasting your time by protesting.

That politician was merely stupid,  OR,  he was setup by powerful financial entities who wanted to oust-him OR oust his compatriots/governing group..

You'll get a new politician,  which make the exact same promises, and take the exact same oath,  Only this new one will be smarter and WORK with his paying masters and not get pushed-out in this denigrated manner..


And the cycle continues..  (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_057_.gif)


If you really believe, You're better, and that duty to the people is first and foremost,   You should run for office,  and stop wasting time with these protests.


Just to clarify,  The Belief towards anti-corruption is correct,   but this manner in which the voice-less populace intends to seek "CHANGE" at best will achieve the killing of a sacrificial goat..

You will have done nothing to rectify the nature of capitalism.
Title: Re: Peaceful demonstration
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 28 August 2015, 22:02:11
Stay safe.  We all know how corrupt people like to take calm protests and turn them violent.  Hopefully things don't go the way of Thailand with the protests.
Title: Re: Peaceful demonstration
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 28 August 2015, 22:02:25
Your are such a pessimist, tp4 <3
Still, we gotta do something. At least.
Title: Re: Peaceful demonstration
Post by: neverused on Fri, 28 August 2015, 22:02:37
The p part of tp4tissue stands for positive.
Title: Re: Peaceful demonstration
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 28 August 2015, 22:11:00
Your are such a pessimist, tp4 <3
Still, we gotta do something. At least.


I'm not against it..


But I KNOW it won't work..


We've done this a thousands of times in the past..


Same result.
Title: Re: Peaceful demonstration
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 28 August 2015, 22:21:59
Good luck buddy. Will check this thread when I wake up.
Title: Re: Peaceful demonstration
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 28 August 2015, 22:22:31
Your are such a pessimist, tp4 <3
Still, we gotta do something. At least.


I'm not against it..


But I KNOW it won't work..


We've done this a thousands of times in the past..


Same result.

I'm not American but tp4 don't forget about Martin Luther King and Rosa Park. Your statement shows you are clueless.
Title: Re: Peaceful demonstration
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 28 August 2015, 22:38:01
Stay safe.  We all know how corrupt people like to take calm protests and turn them violent.  Hopefully things don't go the way of Thailand with the protests.

Good luck buddy. Will check this thread when I wake up.

Thank you. Yeah, here's hoping it doesn't get ugly. The irony is that on Monday 8/31, we are celebrating our National Independance Day - which is our independance from the British Empire of 60 years ago. We might have obtained our independance but we still fall back to tyranny on our own hands. Maybe tp4 is right after all.. I am clueless!  :( :-[
Title: Re: Peaceful demonstration
Post by: fanpeople on Fri, 28 August 2015, 22:49:11
Don't listen to TP, doing something within your power is better then doing nothing and just winging about it. #Australianway
Title: Re: Peaceful demonstration
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 28 August 2015, 23:01:18
Don't listen to TP, doing something within your power is better then doing nothing and just winging about it. #Australianway


Inaction is NOT what I'm suggesting..

By all means,  if you believe yourself just, and are incorruptible.. GO DO SOMETHING..


But peaceful protest?  ... Won't work..


The Black vs White protests were NOT peaceful, not at ALL..


Nothing has ever been solved without economically costly maneuvers,  be it violence, or persistent disruption of labor/ economics (which almost always entails some violence).


Title: Re: Peaceful demonstration
Post by: hwood34 on Fri, 28 August 2015, 23:22:27
The Black vs White protests were NOT peaceful, not at ALL..

And on this day in 2015, tp4 reached new levels of idiocy not thought achievable.
Title: Re: Peaceful demonstration
Post by: tbc on Fri, 28 August 2015, 23:43:45
once again....people forget other people are real.


peace is a really, really bloated term when it comes to 'civil matters'.


just state what you mean instead of chanting fun words.
Title: Re: Peaceful demonstration
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 28 August 2015, 23:44:39

The Black vs White protests were NOT peaceful, not at ALL..

And on this day in 2015, tp4 reached new levels of idiocy not thought achievable.
Oh ya, also don't forget Gandhi's peaceful and bloodless success to achieve Independence for India.
Title: Re: Peaceful demonstration
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 29 August 2015, 00:14:45

The Black vs White protests were NOT peaceful, not at ALL..

And on this day in 2015, tp4 reached new levels of idiocy not thought achievable.
Oh ya, also don't forget Gandhi's peaceful and bloodless success to achieve Independence for India.

Gandhi himself may not have killed anything..  But those ruffled Indians sure did..

Again, major destruction and disruption of economic resources..
Title: Re: Peaceful demonstration
Post by: Phirr on Sat, 29 August 2015, 00:18:59
The Black vs White protests were NOT peaceful, not at ALL..

And on this day in 2015, tp4 reached new levels of idiocy not thought achievable.

I mean tp4's a troll but he's not wrong. There were the the Harlem Riots, the Watts Riots, the Chicago Riots and the 1968 DNC. There was plenty of peaceful protest but a bunch of rioting too. Yeah most of the changes in laws happened after these riots, though that's not necessarily causative. I don't know that this is a great example of tp4tissues idiocy  ;)
Title: Re: Peaceful demonstration
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 29 August 2015, 06:06:29
Good luck!

I hope you both make it home safely.
Title: Re: Peaceful demonstration
Post by: katushkin on Sat, 29 August 2015, 09:35:28
Stay away from the front. That would be my one piece of advice.

Oh, and stand well back from the ones wielding the molotovs ;)
Title: Re: Peaceful demonstration
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Sat, 29 August 2015, 10:05:12
I've never been in a protest

Good luck!

Stay safe of course.

Protestors here aren't bad but they protest over things the government actually does right.
Title: Re: Peaceful demonstration
Post by: trenzafeeds on Sat, 29 August 2015, 17:57:08
From the update feed he posted it looks like they get a ton of people to come out!
Title: Re: Peaceful demonstration
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 29 August 2015, 18:16:19
The Black vs White protests were NOT peaceful, not at ALL..

And on this day in 2015, tp4 reached new levels of idiocy not thought achievable.

I mean tp4's a troll but he's not wrong. There were the the Harlem Riots, the Watts Riots, the Chicago Riots and the 1968 DNC. There was plenty of peaceful protest but a bunch of rioting too. Yeah most of the changes in laws happened after these riots, though that's not necessarily causative. I don't know that this is a great example of tp4tissues idiocy  ;)

People like Hwood

It's ridiculous how these kids come out having never read a book, even bother to open their mouths..

There's nothing in you worth telling "yet"..   

They gotta go back and read something first.. sighhh..
Title: Re: Peaceful demonstration
Post by: Belfong on Sat, 29 August 2015, 19:05:34

I've never been in a protest

Good luck!

Stay safe of course.

Protestors here aren't bad but they protest over things the government actually does right.
Not in this case. Our Prime Minister is a super corrupt person, having recently swallow USD$700M of tax payers money into his own account, claiming it's a donation from a Arab tycoon. Even if it's a donation, we are demanding to know who is this Arab tycoon and what influence will he have over the country in future. Besides, isn't a donation to a high ranking government personnel itself is a definition of corruption?
Title: Re: Peaceful demonstration
Post by: Belfong on Sat, 29 August 2015, 19:07:54
(http://i.imgur.com/J1SaKJB.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/BVgNxUt.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/YCrLBbm.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/WsF3xzx.jpg)
Title: Re: Peaceful demonstration
Post by: trenzafeeds on Mon, 31 August 2015, 15:15:01
Looks awesome! It seemed like you everything went fairly smoothly