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Title: Best switch for ergodox?
Post by: urlwolf on Tue, 22 September 2015, 04:10:55
I've tried everything but clears. I use a vintage black cherry on maltron right now, and browns on a filco.
Each switch feels good on a different keyboard layout.

What would you recommend?
Title: Re: Best switch for ergodox?
Post by: pkircher on Tue, 22 September 2015, 09:06:21
get a switch tester .. i got blues in my kinesis advantage and in the ergodox .. with 62 g lubes sprit springs .. they feel wonderfull .. but again its your keyboard ..

id certainly give clears a try
Title: Re: Best switch for ergodox?
Post by: czarek on Fri, 25 September 2015, 02:46:19
I find light lubed linear switch (modded vintage MX Black or lubed MX Red) PCB mounted to be the most ergonomic in ErgoDox. Please note that I dislike tactile Cherries, though I quite like clicky Cherries (and Gaterons). Still my favourite Cherries are linear :)
Title: Re: Best switch for ergodox?
Post by: jacobolus on Mon, 28 September 2015, 19:19:07
Alps!
Title: Re: Best switch for ergodox?
Post by: njbair on Mon, 28 September 2015, 21:19:30
Alps!
But... Caps?
Title: Re: Best switch for ergodox?
Post by: Zustiur on Wed, 30 September 2015, 23:45:55
The fact you're using an ergodox is largely irrelevant to the switch choice. Computer usage and personal preference should dictate your choice. I personally like cherry white.
Title: Re: Best switch for ergodox?
Post by: localredhead on Fri, 02 October 2015, 13:36:10
Alps!
But... Caps?

Massdrop....  I picked up 3 sets of doubleshot's.  ABS though.. but still.  Doubleshot.

I am personally waiting for the infinity ergodox drop to start again so I can pick up an ergdox kit with matias quiet clicks.
Title: Re: Best switch for ergodox?
Post by: njbair on Fri, 02 October 2015, 13:45:42
Alps!
But... Caps?

Massdrop....  I picked up 3 sets of doubleshot's.  ABS though.. but still.  Doubleshot.

I am personally waiting for the infinity ergodox drop to start again so I can pick up an ergdox kit with matias quiet clicks.
All doubleshots are ABS though. Except for Vortex, which look like crap and defeats the whole purpose of doubleshot.
Title: Re: Best switch for ergodox?
Post by: localredhead on Fri, 02 October 2015, 23:25:47
Alps!
But... Caps?

Massdrop....  I picked up 3 sets of doubleshot's.  ABS though.. but still.  Doubleshot.

I am personally waiting for the infinity ergodox drop to start again so I can pick up an ergdox kit with matias quiet clicks.
All doubleshots are ABS though. Except for Vortex, which look like crap and defeats the whole purpose of doubleshot.

Ahh.  Shows what I know :)  I'm not the biggest fan of the feel of ABS but its a trade-off with the feel of the switch.

BTW:  Massdrop is dropping another round of ALPS switches right now.  The dolce looks great - someone posted up a pic of their KB60
Title: Re: Best switch for ergodox?
Post by: Findecanor on Sat, 03 October 2015, 08:29:59
The fact you're using an ergodox is largely irrelevant to the switch choice. Computer usage and personal preference should dictate your choice. I personally like cherry white.
I agree with that statement, partially.

I am however of the opinion that switches that do give tactile and audial feedback are more ergonomic.
Also, audial feedback should be given only on actuation - not on bottoming down or topping up. Also, bottoming out hard is bad for the fingers.

Therefore, I think that one the best switches for the ErgoDox would be Cherry MX Blue with O-rings installed. (or similar).
If you, by nature strike harder, then do by all means use MX Green or White, which are like the Blue with a
harder spring. If your strike is very very light then you could use Browns.
Alternatively use Cherry MX Clear, but do lube them and don't use lighter springs - a lighter spring does not make actuation less hard. The harder spring in Cherry MX Clear only cushions the stroke, preventing you from bottoming out hard - the hard springs are an ergonomic feature.
Title: Re: Best switch for ergodox?
Post by: Zustiur on Sun, 04 October 2015, 19:54:58
Yes. If ergonomics is the goal, blue, white or green as preference dictates.
My point was that using an ergodox does not necessarily mean that switch economics is the goal.
Title: Re: Best switch for ergodox?
Post by: Kliwon on Mon, 25 January 2016, 05:19:48
62g Clears with lube
or zealios 62g
Title: Re: Best switch for ergodox?
Post by: UTEster750 on Mon, 25 January 2016, 05:22:07
Have 67g Zealios in mine think it's fantastic, thinking about getting an infinity ergodox with 78g zealios.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Best switch for ergodox?
Post by: bcredbottle on Mon, 25 January 2016, 05:53:44
Alps!
But... Caps?

ez pz

(http://i.imgur.com/INZ6GiA.jpg)
Title: Re: Best switch for ergodox?
Post by: roadkill54 on Fri, 29 January 2016, 12:44:54
62g zealios lubed. I was topre life for a long time until I built a custom winkeyless with 62g zealios. Lubed em myself and have a hard time using anything else ow
Title: Re: Best switch for ergodox?
Post by: bcredbottle on Fri, 29 January 2016, 14:18:48
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Title: Re: Best switch for ergodox?
Post by: jerue on Fri, 29 January 2016, 14:25:40
If I were to get an Ergodox, it'd definitely have MX Greens.
Title: Re: Best switch for ergodox?
Post by: romevi on Fri, 29 January 2016, 14:28:19
I myself am leaning toward MX White. I have a rule where I do clicky stems for full-size boards, tactile for TKL, and linears for anything smaller. The ErgoDox, being such a unique board, needs some unique switches. The milky White MX is more tactile to me, but still has that soft click that may come in handy in providing audible feedback as I learn a new keyboard.
Title: Re: Best switch for ergodox?
Post by: Melvang on Fri, 29 January 2016, 14:29:17
Get a tester and find out what you like.  No single switch is better for one particular physical layout than any other. 
Title: Re: Best switch for ergodox?
Post by: nomaded on Fri, 29 January 2016, 19:53:21
My two current ErgoDoxen have all Cherry MX Clear switches. For the Infinity ErgoDox, I went with the Zealios 65g switches. When I build the Infinity ErgoDox, I plan on using either the Gateron Clear or Gateron Black switches on the thumb clusters, and the inner and outer keys (the 1.5u capped ones).