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Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Sun, 25 October 2009, 17:38:52
I'm finally picking one of these babies up.
$66.49 total
Ahhhh, I will soon have a keyboard of quality It's a good feeling.
Wouldn't have happened if not for geekhack. Thanks to all you guys.

Any tips/tricks on this keyboard?
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 25 October 2009, 17:47:12
There's nothing really to know about them. They're a great 'first' keyboard, and there's a good chance that you may never want another one.

But everyone around here always wants another one =P
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Sun, 25 October 2009, 18:00:20
This will be my first decent keyboard since the old Model M.
There's plenty of info in here about them, so I don't need any specific details.

I'm just glad that I found one for about the same price as a Scorpius M10.

There are some variations on these things, I'm lead to believe.
http://www.posglobal.com/G80-3000LSCRC-2.html
that's where I ordered it. Seems to check out I guess.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Sun, 25 October 2009, 18:04:14
I often have to touch-type without looking at the screen, so I'm sure the sound won't bother me. It's really irritating to take notes from a book on a rubber dome board. I always end up with many typos due to the keys not registering.

Also this comes with a bonus in case I want to learn mandarin!
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 25 October 2009, 18:04:46
Oddly enough the Cherry catalog on the page you linked doesnt mention RC as a layout out code. But there are pics around of the Chinese ones. Basically it's just a US keyboard that also has the Chinese characters.

(http://kb.o2dazone.com/cherry01.jpg)

Do you still have your old Model M?
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Sun, 25 October 2009, 18:14:15
Quote from: ch_123;128212
Oddly enough the Cherry catalog on the page you linked doesnt mention RC as a layout out code. But there are pics around of the Chinese ones. Basically it's just a US keyboard that also has the Chinese characters.

Show Image
(http://kb.o2dazone.com/cherry01.jpg)


Do you still have your old Model M?


My Model M broke a loooong time ago. It had a good life.

Ummm... Not mentioning RC as a layout code...what does that mean?

part# G80-3000LSCRC-2

description: G80-3000 Standard PC Keyboard (USB/PS-2 Combo Keyboard, MX Gold CrossPoint Key Switch) - Color: Black

Have I been had?
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 25 October 2009, 18:18:27
Basically -

G80-3000 LSCRC

G80-3000 - Full sized keyboard using MX mechanical switches.
L - Laser Shot keycaps
S - Blue 'clicky' Switches
C - Has Windows Keys
RC - Chinese Layout

The Chinese layout is the one pictured above. It is basically the US layout with Chinese characters also on the caps.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Sun, 25 October 2009, 18:26:04
Quote from: ch_123;128218
Basically -

G80-3000 LSCRC

G80-3000 - Full sized keyboard using MX mechanical switches.
L - Laser Shot keycaps
S - Blue 'clicky' Switches
C - Has Windows Keys
RC - Chinese Layout

The Chinese layout is the one pictured above. It is basically the US layout with Chinese characters also on the caps.

Is there a chance that POSglobal's "part number" does not match the actual keyboard?

edit: it does say "mfgr part #"
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 25 October 2009, 18:27:11
I'd doubt that. I think you'd have a case for false advertising if that was the case!
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Sun, 25 October 2009, 18:29:46
it also says "Description may differ from the actual product of part# G80-3000LSCRC-2"

I better check with the company on mon, but I think I'm safe
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 25 October 2009, 18:31:45
I think that means that the description on the site may be that of another keyboard of a different part number. I don't think that they are going to give you the part number of a completely different keyboard to the one they intend selling to you.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Sun, 25 October 2009, 18:36:50
thanks, ch_123. I was worried there for a sec.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Sun, 25 October 2009, 18:43:40
Quote from: ripster;128227
If it is out of stock I get to say, "I told you so".


And I get to sit here and be sad
while geekhack.org enjoys a good helping of schadenfreude
giggling at my shattered spirit

I'm looking forward to it!
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Sun, 25 October 2009, 18:53:12
I hope that's not the case. If it is, I'll just custom order one from gemini. I'm assuming they only get a shipment in after they recieve X amount of custom orders? I don't mind the wait.

Anyway, back to work for a while. I'll keep this thread updated periodically.

I'd be glad to see some various and random comments about this particular keyboard; opinions, comparisons, etc, that kind of stuff.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: timw4mail on Sun, 25 October 2009, 19:14:00
I have a few Cherry keyboards, yet I never bothered to get the more normal G80-3000. Oh well, I guess at this point I have enough keyboards.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: hyperlinked on Sun, 25 October 2009, 21:08:59
Geekhack just cost me another $70.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: msiegel on Sun, 25 October 2009, 21:15:53
Quote from: hyperlinked;128244
Geekhack just cost me another $70.


congratulations!! :D


...you're a goner
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: hyperlinked on Sun, 25 October 2009, 21:59:15
Quote from: msiegel;128245
congratulations!! :D


...you're a goner

Do we have some sort of communal pledge that *this* keyboard is going to be my last keyboard until all the ones I have die from overuse? If one exists, where can one find it? ;)
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: msiegel on Sun, 25 October 2009, 22:33:20
Quote from: hyperlinked;128248
Do we have some sort of communal pledge that *this* keyboard is going to be my last keyboard until all the ones I have die from overuse? If one exists, where can one find it? ;)


sorry, once you're in the club no amount of swearing will help
;)
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: Xero on Sun, 25 October 2009, 22:34:03
from what other suppleirs have told me it sounds like you won't see any cherry g80-lscrc-2's until january....i'd be very surprised if they are in stock. I've been trying to get one for a while now.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: ocdonkb on Sun, 25 October 2009, 22:52:41
I'd call to make sure it's in stock. The other 2 places I called, totalbarcodes.com and geminicomputer are both back ordered on this board, until next year.

btw, I've had my Filco for less than a month, but  already getting another mechanical kb - got a Unicomp on order... sigh... My guess is by the time the G80-3000 gets in stock again, I'd probably break down and place an order too.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: Hak Foo on Sun, 25 October 2009, 23:29:42
Groan.  I tried two shops about a month ago; both backordered; they claimed December delivery.  There goes my plans to whine for a Christmas present.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Mon, 26 October 2009, 00:22:34
Quote from: Xero;128250
from what other suppleirs have told me it sounds like you won't see any cherry g80-lscrc-2's until january....i'd be very surprised if they are in stock. I've been trying to get one for a while now.


I'm not trying to rub it in for those looking for that keyboard, but I must have been lucky for they had it in stock when I bought my first one, and I got the second one within less than a month. I repeat, it is my favourite keyboard by far, even though I do like my Topre and my brown Cherries Filco a lot. A few things to remember for those buying this keyboard though. First, the keys feel very slippery especially if you are not used to them. They have a Teflon coating feel. Second, the F and J keys are scooped. But once you have gotten use to this keyboard, it's a fun one to type on. And third, some may find it to have a cheap built feel to it. I did not feel this way, but it is a very light keyboard.

I guess people can see how much I love this keyboard.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Mon, 26 October 2009, 01:05:43
i got a real ominous feeling now coming up my spine, reading those last posts

i'm gonna call posglobal on monday and they're gonna laugh at me, aren't they?

"you really thought we had that keyboard in stock? hahaha what a loser" they'll say.

my spirit will not be broken.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Mon, 26 October 2009, 01:53:13
I'm just curious
What kind of shipping charges would I be looking at buying from a chinese/asian reseller? 5yuan? $100? $5000?

Also, are these things made in germany or czech republic? Is there a difference in quality?
As long as it's not bosnian i'm cool wit it.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 26 October 2009, 04:36:00
If you were ordering from Asia, it would probably make more sense just to buy a Filco - with shipping charges the price would probably be the same anyway.

And what's wrong with Bosnia?
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: Rajagra on Mon, 26 October 2009, 07:38:50
We need to hire a private investigator to track some down.

Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: hyperlinked on Mon, 26 October 2009, 07:49:15
Quote from: PRISONER 24601;128263
i got a real ominous feeling now coming up my spine, reading those last posts


Oh well... I might get my $70 back. I wonder when Majestouch is going to have some more 10-key Blue Cherry NKRO's in stock.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 26 October 2009, 09:28:40
To me, it seemed like a case of the wrong crate getting shipped to the wrong place, and the retailers just found it was cheaper to flog them off than it was to send them back.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: JBert on Mon, 26 October 2009, 14:52:19
Quote from: ripster;128349
Anybody that uses the work "Shadenfreude" in a post should be wished good luck in his endeavors.   I am a bit worried though that the Chinese Lettered "blowout special" always seemed like an odd item for Cherry Corp to sell here so I'm even skeptical about December.   Whoops, I be shadenfreudin.

Good luck though - ya never know!
If you want to go for that real German touch, try to write it as "Schadenfreude". :-)
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Mon, 26 October 2009, 15:23:24
I called the POS store just now. They pretty much hung up on me.

EYE OF THE TIGER
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 26 October 2009, 15:30:11
Quote from: PRISONER 24601;128420
I called the POS store just now. They pretty much hung up on me.
 
EYE OF THE TIGER

Wow, they're POSs.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Mon, 26 October 2009, 15:31:44
Quote from: PRISONER 24601;128420
I called the POS store just now. They pretty much hung up on me.

EYE OF THE TIGER


Were you able to find out if they had the keyboard in stock? Advice: Once you get this keyboard, just enjoy it and NEVER EVER come back here or you'll have a big big hole in your wallet.

Oh Well! This warning has never worked for anyone who has been here long enough.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Mon, 26 October 2009, 15:34:35
Quote from: itlnstln;128423
Wow, they're POSs.


whudathunkit?

I just hope they don't steal my money or send me something ridiculous in the mail.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Mon, 26 October 2009, 15:36:51
Quote from: patrickgeekhack;128424
Were you able to find out if they had the keyboard in stock? Advice: Once you get this keyboard, just enjoy it and NEVER EVER come back here or you'll have a big big hole in your wallet.

Oh Well! This warning has never worked for anyone who has been here long enough.


No, they just had a machine for messages
Called their other number (local TX) and I got endless rings
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Mon, 26 October 2009, 15:39:05
Quote from: PRISONER 24601;128426
No, they just had a machine for messages
Called their other number (local TX) and I got endless rings


You've got to keep trying, this was how I finally got someone on the phone. In any case, they cannot use your credit card if they are not going to send a keyboard.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Mon, 26 October 2009, 15:46:55
Quote from: patrickgeekhack;128427
You've got to keep trying, this was how I finally got someone on the phone. In any case, they cannot use your credit card if they are not going to send a keyboard.


I don't like to be a bother :(
Working at computer shops and getting repeated calls with monotonous questions never bothered me, but I still have this constructed urge not to do it myself.
I'll try again in little bit.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Mon, 26 October 2009, 15:51:03
I did however call a friendly local warehouse- who told me they have stacks and stacks of old IBM clicky boards for $1.49 each.

I'll have to wait till wednesday for that, though.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Mon, 26 October 2009, 16:41:01
UPDATE: the POSglobal company is backordered, I canceled the order.
Totalbarcode tells me stock will come on 12/15

That's about it.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: Xero on Mon, 26 October 2009, 17:45:45
I would be pretty surprised if we see any new stock before next year, but I guess we'll see. I'll have to live with my g80-3000 with browns for now (also a very good keyboard and my current go-to board)
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Mon, 26 October 2009, 22:07:09
Quote from: Xero;128449
I would be pretty surprised if we see any new stock before next year, but I guess we'll see. I'll have to live with my g80-3000 with browns for now (also a very good keyboard and my current go-to board)


I'm pretty sure the G80-3000 with brown Cherries is a blast to type on as well. Each keyboard has its good and bad. Even a cheap rubber dome has its good side. It's cheap, if it gets broken by accident, then who cares? You can just replace it. On the other hand, if my Topre is broken by accident, I will not be very happy. Maybe this was why I got a second G80-3000 ;-)
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Tue, 27 October 2009, 02:30:17
So, I'm just gonna wait for Gemini or some other dudes to get a shipment in. The only places that appear to have them in stock are charging around $100 for them.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 27 October 2009, 08:07:18
Xero, the G80-3000 with browns is the best keyboard I have typed on so far.  Smooth, light, tactile, but not very pretty.  It's a real "butter-face" of keyboards.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: CX23882 on Tue, 27 October 2009, 09:19:03
Quote from: itlnstln;128539
Smooth, light, tactile, but not very pretty.  It's a real "butter-face" of keyboards.

I'd say the G80-3000 has classic understated looks, but nonetheless attractive in its own simple way. It's not in your face good looking like a movie star, but more of a plain "girl next door".
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: hyperlinked on Tue, 27 October 2009, 09:33:29
Quote from: CX23882;128546
I'd say the G80-3000 has classic understated looks, but nonetheless attractive in its own simple way. It's not in your face good looking like a movie star, but more of a plain "girl next door".


You need help.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: timw4mail on Tue, 27 October 2009, 09:47:46
Quote from: hyperlinked;128549
You need help.


I'm sure he's not the only one.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 27 October 2009, 09:51:18
This whole community needs help.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: Xero on Tue, 27 October 2009, 20:46:51
Quote from: CX23882;128546
I'd say the G80-3000 has classic understated looks, but nonetheless attractive in its own simple way. It's not in your face good looking like a movie star, but more of a plain "girl next door".


it sort of reminds me like as if you put cherry switches in an IBM model M-sized case....now there's an idea....hmm! The big difference is that the g80-3000 has no metal plate and is surprisingly light, for it's size you expect it to weigh a lot more than it does. It feels cheap at first but once you use it, it's nothing of the sort.

Quote from: itlnstln;128539
Xero, the G80-3000 with browns is the best keyboard I have typed on so far.  Smooth, light, tactile, but not very pretty.  It's a real "butter-face" of keyboards.


it is a pretty awesome board. I still want the g80-3000 with blues just cause I want a clicky one, but I definitely type faster/more accurate on the browns.

Quote from: itlnstln;128555
This whole community needs help.


yeh we do
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Wed, 28 October 2009, 04:30:28
After hearing all this jibber jabber about cherry browns, I went and bought a Compaq MX11800 on ebay for 20 bucks shipped. I hope it's in good condition... the pic looked like it was a bit yellowed (which I really don't mind. I'll probably paint the ***** anyway), they said 100% tested and working, that's good enough.

Now at least I'll get a good feel of cherry switches, will help me decide if the blues are a better choice.

Is anyone else on a "waiting list" of sorts for the g803000lscrc2? I'd like to know the best one to get on, for the best price ya know.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 28 October 2009, 08:03:38
Quote from: PRISONER 24601;128719
After hearing all this jibber jabber about cherry browns, I went and bought a Compaq MX11800 on ebay for 20 bucks shipped. I hope it's in good condition... the pic looked like it was a bit yellowed (which I really don't mind. I'll probably paint the ***** anyway), they said 100% tested and working, that's good enough.
 
Now at least I'll get a good feel of cherry switches, will help me decide if the blues are a better choice.
 
Is anyone else on a "waiting list" of sorts for the g803000lscrc2? I'd like to know the best one to get on, for the best price ya know.

Compaqs are a great way to check out browns.  You may want to change out the switch on the spacebar for another key.  They use a grey switch, IIRC, and it is stiff as a muhfu*cker.  The thing to keep in mind, too, is that Compaq might be well used, and, thus, the switches ragged out a little, so be sure to "type" on the F keys a bit to get an idea about how less-used keys will feel.  Between that and normal typing, you should get a pretty good idea of how browns feel.  Keep in mind, the Compaq will feel closer to the G80-3000 than it will to the Filco.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Wed, 28 October 2009, 08:13:47
Quote from: PRISONER 24601;128719
After hearing all this jibber jabber about cherry browns, I went and bought a Compaq MX11800 on ebay for 20 bucks shipped. I hope it's in good condition... the pic looked like it was a bit yellowed (which I really don't mind. I'll probably paint the ***** anyway), they said 100% tested and working, that's good enough.
There's one in Quebec right now and no one has bid on it yet. I'm very tempted, but I have enough keyboards for now. I have every switch I wanted to try and another keyboard will mean another one sitting around on the substitute bench.

Quote
Now at least I'll get a good feel of cherry switches, will help me decide if the blues are a better choice.
Don't be too optimistic :-) Blue Cherries are way different from Brown Cherries. It's like two different dishes.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Wed, 28 October 2009, 12:45:38
Quote from: itlnstln;128751
Compaqs are a great way to check out browns.

I must not buy another keyboard, I must not buy another keyboard...Besides, this one does not have the Windows key :-)
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 28 October 2009, 12:56:43
Quote from: patrickgeekhack;128837
I must not buy another keyboard, I must not buy another keyboard...Besides, this one does not have the Windows key :-)

You already have a Cherry brown keyboard, though. I was talking about if someone was on the fence about buying one. The layout would dissuade people from using for the long haul. It's just too weird.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: elbowglue on Wed, 28 October 2009, 13:07:38
Quote from: ripster;128844
If all you want to do is try the Cherry Browns I recommend just getting a numpad with them.   About as expensive and at least there's a use for them down the road.  Most people that get the  Compaqs seem to move on quickly to other keyboards.


Another way to try cherry browns is the MX8100 board:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Cherry-Credit-Card-KeyBoard-POS-USB-MX8100-MX-8100_W0QQitemZ200397525699QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2ea89f92c3

I got this for I think it was $35 best offer + shipping.  Board was in quite good condition, of course you may realize that the fact that the delete key is in the wrong place and the arrow keys are in the wrong place may annoy the crap out of you.  It's a good deal, I love cherry browns, although I can't say they are better than cherry blues as I haven't tried them yet.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: timw4mail on Wed, 28 October 2009, 13:10:36
Quote from: ripster;128844
If all you want to do is try the Cherry Browns I recommend just getting a numpad with them.   About as expensive and at least there's a use for them down the road.  Most people that get the  Compaqs seem to move on quickly to other keyboards.

I guess that makes me weird and tolerant.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Wed, 28 October 2009, 14:17:58
Quote from: itlnstln;128842
You already have a Cherry brown keyboard, though.

True. If did not have one already, I would have seriously considered this one since it would not be a cross-border shipment.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Wed, 28 October 2009, 20:48:30
Getting back on track. If the G80-3000 is out of stock everywhere, this can only mean one thing: this keyboard has a high demand, despite some having a feeling that the built quality is not the highest. It's a relative cheap way to try Blue Cherries, and a very nice keyboard to type on overall.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: Hak Foo on Thu, 29 October 2009, 00:36:03
I wonder if it was a matter of someone said

"We need 5 Chinese lettered keyboards".

Their upstream distributor said "Okay, let's stock it and order 100 or whatever the minimum, then farm it off on our customers til they run out."
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: Rajagra on Thu, 29 October 2009, 02:42:53
Quote from: timw4mail;128852
I guess that makes me weird and tolerant.


Me too then. I find the MX11800/11900 boards to be very useful. They are only 1" wider than a tenkeyless board, yet they have every standard key, including the numpad. And a trackball to boot! (OK my 11800s have no Windows keys, I can live with that.) And all the keys work properly, many other compact boards have a habit of doing odd things here and there that seem unimportant but can bite you from behind.

Sometimes having all the keys present is more important than having them well laid out.

The 11800s with their Cherry brown switches are great to type on. I bought 5 for £22 planning to harvest the switches, but I think I will keep most of them as is.

http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=5124&d=1255454040
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Thu, 29 October 2009, 07:17:59
Quote from: Rajagra;128995
OK my 11800s have no Windows keys, I can live with that.

If I was not using a Mac, I could have overlooked the missing Windows keys, but because I remap my keys in OS X, then the missing Windows key is not the best situation.

But, I have said I would not buy anymore keyboard before and still bought more...May God help me :-)
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 29 October 2009, 08:33:20
Quote from: Rajagra;128995
Me too then. I find the MX11800/11900 boards to be very useful. They are only 1" wider than a tenkeyless board, yet they have every standard key, including the numpad.

This is why I want the G80-1800.  Small form-factor, standard layout.  The newer 11800s have Windows keys.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: hyperlinked on Thu, 29 October 2009, 11:33:15
I finally got around to cancelling my order. I didn't have to go through the telephone circus that Prisoner went through. I just found my email confirmation, hit the reply button, and ask them to cancel my order if the item was out of stock. POSGlobal got back to me in three minutes to let me know that they were out and my order has been canceled.

Sometimes, email does get you there faster!
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 29 October 2009, 11:38:39
E-mail also puts things in writing (for better or worse) which I find to be invaluable for order cancellations and such.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 29 October 2009, 12:00:32
I bet a lot of POS companies do phone orders or face-to-face meets, so they don't really have a lot of "practice" in the small-scale, Web arena.  Usually, when a retail outlet buys POS equipment, they buy lots of it (whether a few items in bulk, lots of individual items, or some combination of the two), so Web ordering usually isn't the best method.  That said, companies as large as the one I work for just buy straight from the manufacturer, so we skip the middle man.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Thu, 29 October 2009, 12:14:27
Quote from: hyperlinked;129116
I finally got around to cancelling my order. I didn't have to go through the telephone circus that Prisoner went through. I just found my email confirmation, hit the reply button, and ask them to cancel my order if the item was out of stock. POSGlobal got back to me in three minutes to let me know that they were out and my order has been canceled.

Sometimes, email does get you there faster!


It's hit and miss. Someone said that  they never replied to any of his e-mails.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 29 October 2009, 12:29:35
Yeah, it's pretty ironic that a Point-of-Sale company has problems with thier Point-of-Sale.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: hyperlinked on Thu, 29 October 2009, 12:45:09
Quote from: itlnstln;129138
Yeah, it's pretty ironic that a Point-of-Sale company has problems with thier Point-of-Sale.


It's like H&R Block getting caught for screwing up their own taxes a few years ago or when it was discovered that Computer Associates, makers of finance and enterprise management software were not only not using their own software to keep their books, but were doing it the old school way.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 29 October 2009, 12:46:54
We used to use some CA programs on our mainframe, but we phased those out sometime back.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Thu, 29 October 2009, 13:20:28
Quote from: ripster;129151
Or Metadot programmers not using Das keyboards.  No wait, that's just an Internet Rumor I just started.

Somebody call Metadot and ask the receptionist to put the phone next to the keyboard and type something.


Imagine a group of users on blue Cherries all day long in the same room.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 29 October 2009, 13:24:29
I'm sure they were re-issued the "silent" model.  The original Das III must have been a nightmare in their call center.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: Hak Foo on Fri, 06 November 2009, 22:33:18
Dumb question:  Can blue G80-3000s with a ANSI layout be obtained in the UK?  I might be able to get a "pass-along" with friends there.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Fri, 06 November 2009, 23:32:45
I can't answer your dumb question but I'm still looking for one of these guys daily, with no luck ;_;
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: AndrewZorn on Sat, 07 November 2009, 10:01:39
yeah i saw this thread and was hoping they were actually back
chinese letters actually look kind of cool too
$60ish is just really cheap
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: Hak Foo on Sat, 07 November 2009, 17:54:21
I looked at the Keyboard Company (a .uk firm who posts here) and they only had the ISO-layout ones, at about 60 GBP (~100 USD)
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: microsoft windows on Sat, 07 November 2009, 18:29:07
You know,  I've always wondered where your signature picture came from. Did you make it?
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: Hak Foo on Sat, 07 November 2009, 19:55:31
Yeah.  Image editing is a dangerous thing.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Sun, 08 November 2009, 18:10:43
I'm just gonna get on gemini's preorder list tomorrow. More money down the drain I suppose...

ripster, what makes you think they're lying? Is this some sort of POS chinese syndicate moneymaking scam?
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: AndrewZorn on Sun, 08 November 2009, 18:26:46
preorder list?
going to bed so im not going to read all this stuff
but i will go to bed hoping that this means i can, tomorrow, preorder a blue cherry keyboard of nice quality for $60
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Sun, 08 November 2009, 18:38:16
Quote from: AndrewZorn;131084
preorder list?
going to bed so im not going to read all this stuff
but i will go to bed hoping that this means i can, tomorrow, preorder a blue cherry keyboard of nice quality for $60


I've heard gemini has one, gonna call tomorrow to be sure.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Sun, 08 November 2009, 19:58:27
If this keyboard is still being manufactured, then yes, you can call Geminicomputers and ask them to custom order one. I did this a few months ago for my second G80.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Sun, 08 November 2009, 22:09:55
Quote from: ripster;131105
They may have some still in the distribution chain.  I'm just saying it's very odd that the ONE Blue Cherry keyboard that Cherry Corp.  ships to the US has Chinese lettering and is $40 cheaper.  Sure seems like an inventory blowout, not a standard item.


Damn, yeah.

Well, if they order a bunch of them again and sell them at blowout prices I guess they have one hell of a chinese mafia scam cause I'd be in for two.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: AndrewZorn on Mon, 09 November 2009, 10:42:46
so just email them (can't call) and ask if they CAN send me a "BLACK USB/PS-2 COMBO K/BOARD MX GOLD X-PNT KEY [g80-3000lscrc-2]"?

these ARE cherry blue, confirmed, right?
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 09 November 2009, 10:44:06
Yes, they are Cherry blue.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: AndrewZorn on Mon, 09 November 2009, 13:51:14
i sent an email to sales i will report how it goes
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Thu, 12 November 2009, 16:15:27
got a callback from gemini yesterday morning. missed the voice msg cause i was at work.

the deal is the same as it has been. they'll get them in early January and anyone can call ahead and preorder one if they wish.

no new information there, but at least we have another January confirmation.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: AndrewZorn on Thu, 12 November 2009, 16:20:54
i still havent got an email back, so do you know if...

i can email instead of call?
will the price still be $65?
can i 'call' ahead NOW and preorder?
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: ch_123 on Thu, 12 November 2009, 16:30:12
And the new Das, apparently. Which is more likely - a working Das, or a new Unicomp model?
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Thu, 12 November 2009, 20:22:08
Quote from: AndrewZorn;132024
i still havent got an email back, so do you know if...

i can email instead of call?
will the price still be $65?
can i 'call' ahead NOW and preorder?


Yup, just called and ordered this morn. Got myself on "the list"- VIP baby break out dat courvoisier!

I wanted to order 3, but they're charging the Ccards right away (instead of charging in Jan.)... So i just put myself down for one. He told me to simply call back if I wanna change the order to 3 units, no prob.

Too bad I gotta wait 'till Jan. I guess some people will be getting belated chrstmas gifts this year!


**** year. I got meself a genuine german chinese american keyboard with all the bells and whistles. Otto von Bismark and Charman Mao would be equally proud.
Gustavus Adolphus might be a bit jealous.
Reagan would probably want to blow it up with a space laser.
And umm.. I bet if Kennedy were around he'd probably be worried about the "keyboard gap". He would commission the FBI to reverse engineer cherry blues, power them with radiation, and put them on top of some holy mountain in India. And no, I'm not done digressing.

Augustus, if he had the G80-3000LSCRC-2, would display it as a standard and proceed to conquer the german tribes with three full legions. Foolishly, Quintus Varus would underestimate the barbarians. A confederacy of tribes would ambush the roman columns (on favorable, modernist terrain) with their supposedly "inferior" buckling spring weapons. The might of the Cherry standard would be humbled after long last. Augustus Caesar, lamenting in his private quarters, would realize that leadership is still a daunting task- even after many years in power. After the humiliating loss, Augustus would secretly curse the gods. He would curse himself as well, for the rest of his days. Most of all, he would curse the generals that failed him. Again, and again, for weeks on end, he would scream to the gods in mourning his fallen army, "Quintili Vare, keyboardes redde!"

What the **** did I just write? Disregard that plz.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Fri, 13 November 2009, 00:30:32
Now that I think about it, the sales rep may have mentioned something about magic beans. Something like how the g80-3000lscrc-2 beans will lead to the keyboard. I wasn't really paying attention.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: AndrewZorn on Fri, 13 November 2009, 07:42:41
sales never did respond to me, anyone know if there is a way to do this without a phone?
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Fri, 13 November 2009, 08:55:56
Quote from: AndrewZorn;132105
sales never did respond to me, anyone know if there is a way to do this without a phone?


Andrew: Why don't you want to call them? You probably have a good reason, but I was just a bit curious.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: AndrewZorn on Fri, 13 November 2009, 09:34:44
i am in iraq, phones exist but are very inconvenient to use, and skype sounds awful because of the slow speeds (and for anything but toll-free, i would need credit to use it anyway)
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Fri, 13 November 2009, 10:31:03
Quote from: AndrewZorn;132121
i am in iraq, phones exist but are very inconvenient to use, and skype sounds awful because of the slow speeds (and for anything but toll-free, i would need credit to use it anyway)


I see. What do you want to know? I can try calling them. They do have a toll-free number 1 888 943 6464.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: AndrewZorn on Fri, 13 November 2009, 10:50:08
okay, maybe i WILL try skype then...

all i know is i want one, im just surprised the calling thing is working, but sending an email to SALES telling them i want one does not work.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Fri, 13 November 2009, 12:18:29
Quote from: AndrewZorn;132121
i am in iraq, phones exist but are very inconvenient to use, and skype sounds awful because of the slow speeds (and for anything but toll-free, i would need credit to use it anyway)


damn that's rough. a buddy of mine, over on some random nation's turf, (afghanistan atm) tells me that it takes weeks just to download a movie from isohunt. I mean, what good is an ipod video that has the same ****ty 50000 songs you've already listened to?  Granted, they were cheap. a full 120gb of music for a dozen bic pens- not a bad exchange rate. There's only so much that a man can take... hunkered in a fox hole, surrounded on all sides by the enemy, and the only movie you can watch is freddy got fingered because your satellite internet can't pick up a signal through hundreds of feet of stupid stupid cold rocks. Clemenceau said that war was too important to be left up to generals. True then, even truer now. If microsoft had liberated Iraq instead of our lackluster military, things would be a lot better now.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: timw4mail on Fri, 13 November 2009, 12:19:46
Quote from: PRISONER 24601;132178
If microsoft had liberated Iraq instead of our lackluster military, things would be a lot better now.


Umm...
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: AndrewZorn on Fri, 13 November 2009, 12:28:01
Quote from: PRISONER 24601;132178
damn that's rough. a buddy of mine, over on some random nation's turf, (afghanistan atm) tells me that it takes weeks just to download a movie from isohunt. I mean, what good is an ipod video that has the same ****ty 50000 songs you've already listened to?  Granted, they were cheap. a full 120gb of music for a dozen bic pens- not a bad exchange rate. There's only so much that a man can take... hunkered in a fox hole, surrounded on all sides by the enemy, and the only movie you can watch is freddy got fingered because your satellite internet can't pick up a signal through hundreds of feet of stupid stupid cold rocks. Clemenceau said that war was too important to be left up to generals. True then, even truer now. If microsoft had liberated Iraq instead of our lackluster military, things would be a lot better now.
what?  afghanistan has internet service now?  i thought i was WAY better off, but turns out im just "better off"

heres how it is here

$100 a month for .125mbps internet
.125mbps
in other words
16kBps MAX down speed (15kBps max really)
8gb cap per month
~700ms ping MINIMUM, to ANYWHERE, because its satellite-based, i guess...

i spent over a week getting the windows 7 rc
for the RTM i just got someone to download it then mail it to me

but honestly
i never expected to complain about the internet speed in a war theater
but hey
2009
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Fri, 13 November 2009, 12:55:23
Quote from: AndrewZorn;132121
i am in iraq, phones exist but are very inconvenient to use, and skype sounds awful because of the slow speeds (and for anything but toll-free, i would need credit to use it anyway)


(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=5669&stc=1&d=1258133559)

For the next custom batch, some people should pull strings and get arabic characters instead of chinese. No english at all, just US layout with some sweet durka durka calligraphy. it would be really pretty. 50x awesomer than blank keys according to my team of crack trendspotting hipsters.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: AndrewZorn on Fri, 13 November 2009, 13:13:19
Quote from: PRISONER 24601;132187
Show Image
(http://image)


For the next custom batch, some people should pull strings and get arabic characters instead of chinese. No english at all, just US layout with some sweet durka durka calligraphy. it would be really pretty. 50x awesomer than blank keys according to my team of crack trendspotting hipsters.

you mean like this?

Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Fri, 13 November 2009, 13:17:25
Quote from: AndrewZorn;132184
what?  afghanistan has internet service now?  i thought i was WAY better off, but turns out im just "better off"

heres how it is here

$100 a month for .125mbps internet
.125mbps
in other words
16kBps MAX down speed (15kBps max really)
8gb cap per month
~700ms ping MINIMUM, to ANYWHERE, because its satellite-based, i guess...

i spent over a week getting the windows 7 rc
for the RTM i just got someone to download it then mail it to me

but honestly
i never expected to complain about the internet speed in a war theater
but hey
2009


I remember paying almost that for 28.8 during the first (or maybe second) nato intervention in bosnia. I remember talking to this kid from kosovo over irc, "lol ther r sum lamer serbs pushing ppl around in my village dude there such *******s brb".
After that he never msgd me again. Must have been something I said. :(
IIRC a few weeks later they announced 56kFlex. If that's not irony I don't know what is.

so, in theory, war makes internets faster. a few peer-reviewed journals would be needed to convince me further, though. I'm a firm skeptic.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Fri, 13 November 2009, 13:19:01
Quote from: AndrewZorn;132189
you mean like this?


i thought that one had eng characters too.

really i would buy it just for the box.

seriously i would want one of those just for the kitsch value. Hate to use phrases like "stupid awesome", but it works perfectly for the "$15 800DPI ULTIMATE GAMING KEYBOARD FOR GAMERS" (and here I am typing away like a fool on some obsolete 50dpi keyboard.

Lemmee seee... 50wpm, 50 (estimated) dpi... ****. If I move up to the faster gaming gamer board, i'll do 650-700wpm easy.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: AndrewZorn on Fri, 13 November 2009, 13:21:55
oh yeah, whoops, i read it as BOTH english and arabic
it has both
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Fri, 13 November 2009, 14:30:52
You know what would would best chinese, arabic, AND blank?

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=5676&stc=1&d=1258141990)
Egyptian Hyroglyphics (remember, if you want to switch between windows, hold down isis and tap the scarab beetle)


Linear script a or b
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=5677&stc=1&d=1258142203)




My suits tell me that males 18-34 react well to conical sumerian. just think of it, a whole line of "g|Lgame5h X-treme" PC components, input devices, and fortified gaming ointments.

The slogan pretty much writes itself, "only you can slay the bull of heaven, with g|Lgame5h high performance"
or
"3nkidu series audio accelerators. Sound so clear, so defined, you won't ever think about women again"
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 13 November 2009, 14:33:35
I want "She-Goat" and "He-Ass" keys.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Fri, 13 November 2009, 14:38:06
Quote from: itlnstln;132217
I want "She-Goat" and "He-Ass" keys.


notice it would eliminate the need for caps lock too! killing two birds with one sling there.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 13 November 2009, 14:42:16
Quote from: PRISONER 24601;132220
killing two birds with one sling there.

Strong.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Fri, 13 November 2009, 14:44:41
I wonder how much it would cost for cherry to do a run of doubleshot hieroglyphic keys? It's probably VERY expensive to design new letters, new moulds or w/e... but it could serve a rapidly growing niche market. (the keyboard-savvy egyptologist demographic has been growing steadily since Q3 1999 IIRC)

what do you wanna bet the importer would **** up and they would come back in demotic? I can't read that ****.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Fri, 13 November 2009, 14:49:26
Quote from: itlnstln;132222
Strong.

i thought it was rather weak, but i kept it in cause it made me smile. thanks :)
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: AndrewZorn on Sat, 14 November 2009, 16:15:45
this vs the NKRO filcos...

other than NKRO, does the filco have much on the cherry?

cause the filco preorder is tempting
but also like double the price
blank keys would be nice, finally an accurate keyboard for colemak... but... $121 vs $65...
and the nkro... but i already have a gaming keyboard, my hhkb.  this one have ANY transposition rumors or anything?  i got my filco really cheap and all, but really wish it was the NKRO version just to avoid trouble.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: Gingerbread on Sat, 14 November 2009, 16:29:49
Quote from: AndrewZorn;132490
this vs the NKRO filcos...

other than NKRO, does the filco have much on the cherry?

cause the filco preorder is tempting
but also like double the price


I'm also wondering this.

Well, I already have a Cherry G80-3000 in a UK layout that will be arriving on Tuesday, but I'm considering whether it's worth also getting a FILCO keyboard - I'm going to see how it goes with the Blue switches, and if I really like them, then I might consider getting a blue switch FILCO, if I think I could like the brown ones more then I'd get the brown ones.

The two things that bother me about the FILCOs is that even though they just started selling them in the UK, they're selling us the US layouts (that seems to be all there is), and also, the price converts out to $185, compared to the $134 from Elite Keyboards.

Is there much of a difference between a FILCO and a Cherry both with Cherry blues?
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 14 November 2009, 16:34:56
I usually use my Filco with the USB connector only (to get NKRO, you have to use the included PS/2 adaptor), and I have never noticed any rollover issues.

NKRO is a bit of a copout really. Model Ms only have 2-key rollover, yet I have never had any issues with it when using it for gaming purposes (I think Cherry uses a similar key matrix, so it would likely perform the same) On the other hand, a lot of so-called NKRO keyboards don't do it properly (although the Filco is proper NKRO as far as I know) The issue is more to do with solid matrix design than NKRO.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: CX23882 on Sat, 14 November 2009, 17:18:37
Do all Filco keyboards have those insanely bright blue lock LEDs? I'm still considering buying one (I really want a usable Cherry MX brown or clear keyboard) but I keep finding out things that turn me away and back to just getting another G80-3000 but with the clear switches.

I know they're meant to be cool and flashy but in my opinion blue LEDs are one of the worst things that have become popular in the past couple of years, especially when they're misused. Behind a diffuser, fine, or not running at 100% brightness, fine. But burning as bright as an LED torch or car lights, directly in your face is ridiculous. Monitor manufacturers seem to be one of the worst offenders. I've got an LG LCD at work but it's not too bad because the LED is behind a diffuser but I've seen others. The Dell Soundbar speakers - latest model has stupid blue LED smack bang in the middle. These soundbars clip underneath your monitor. I went for the previous model because it has a regular green LED (and better speakers too). Computer cases - stupid bright blue power lights. Speakers - stupid bright blue power lights.

Moderately bright (read: normal) Green LEDs are a million times more suitable for indicating whether I've got Num lock enabled or disabled.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: AndrewZorn on Sat, 14 November 2009, 17:22:50
actually blue LEDs are for the brown switches, the other LEDs are green for blue (irony) and red for black, which i doubt are as bright as the blue ones (if only because no one complains about them)

so since you are looking at brown, yes...
also wish the blank keyboard did not have the words "scroll lock" etc printed beside the LEDs

but yeah like you said they are very bright GAYMEN type LEDs, with a crystal (instead of diffused/frosted) type of lens/housing so they are very bright and make circles on the ceiling at night

i will be modifying mine soon, in some way, to reduce this
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: CX23882 on Sat, 14 November 2009, 17:26:12
Damn, this is a deal breaker for me then. If they're really that bright (circles on the ceiling) I would never be able to get on with them, and I wouldn't have the necessary soldering skills to swap in normal LEDs. :(

I wonder if this would work: remove the top casing, lay a strip of "tights" (legging) material across so that it covers all three LEDs with a bit to spare (in case it slips), and then put the top casing back on. That might subdue the brightness a bit and the material hopefully thin and stretchy enough to go around the LEDs tightly (I assume that the bare LED pokes through the case? - no light pipes?)
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 14 November 2009, 17:27:32
I can confirm that the Green LEDs on the Cherry Blue boards are no brighter than average. I have heard that the Cherry Brown Filcos have bright ones though.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: AndrewZorn on Sat, 14 November 2009, 17:45:18
Quote from: CX23882;132495
necessary soldering skills to swap in normal LEDs. :(
PFFT!  who said anything about that?

i plan on a somewhat less refined method myself.  probably a disassembly, and then sanding the LED casing as to 'frost' them, should cut the DIRECT light down considerably (but not take the overall output down that much)

but your idea is a really good one.  my first thought was to cover each LED in some sort of foggy plastic, but the LEDs do 'poke' through.  using something like pantyhose, as you suggest, should work because it would stretch with them.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Sat, 14 November 2009, 21:14:31
Quote from: ripster;132535
You guys think too much (stockings on LEDs?!?! .... KinKy!)

Just jam a sharpie down there.

Bottom Keyboard: Unmodified LED vs modified
[IG]http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=2822&stc=1&d=1245709270[/IMG]

The pic is old.  I updated the keyboard above with Red LEDs because I happened to have it open anyway.  Takes 5 mins but you have to have a soldering iron and some 10cent LEDs.

People like easy fixes. Last time my HDD went dead, I just jammed a penny in there. Now it's good as new.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: AndrewZorn on Sat, 14 November 2009, 22:19:39
the sharpie is just too ghetto, i guess
if im not going to do it right, it at least should look good (or with the stockings, at least not modify the keyboard permanently, in case your future buyer is into all that gaymen stuff)
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: CX23882 on Sun, 15 November 2009, 04:01:32
The main issue I have with permanent marker is that it's difficult to get a uniform finish.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: AndrewZorn on Sun, 15 November 2009, 09:02:28
right, it will look like what it is
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: JBert on Sun, 15 November 2009, 11:46:13
If only that little Lego cap would fit inside the Filco...
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: lmnop on Mon, 16 November 2009, 00:30:49
I hope this isn't off-topic. does anybody own the G80-3000LPCEU-0 the Cherry MX Black Linear variant? this one has a EUR character at 5. don't hear about it too much.

here are some pictures.

(http://i35.tinypic.com/j09m2x.jpg)
(http://i37.tinypic.com/32znc6q.jpg)
(http://i36.tinypic.com/2lx8j02.jpg)
(http://i36.tinypic.com/21ctj0n.jpg)
(http://i35.tinypic.com/mcd8pv.jpg)
(http://i37.tinypic.com/6gly6u.jpg)

it retails between $60-80 USD and available at 3-5 online stores. it seems cheaper to buy this keyboard for the sake of harvesting the switches versus buying them separately from digikey? it's also cheaper than a Deck Legend or SteelSeries 7G but it only has 2-5 NKRO?

PS, clear nail polish works good on dimming LED.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: lmnop on Mon, 16 November 2009, 10:19:58
acetone is in nail polish remover i'm talking about clear nail polish.

(http://i33.tinypic.com/2v9u42w.jpg)

meet the Sunbeam Rheobus Extreme a Fan Controller with LED at 5v

(http://i34.tinypic.com/2qnqtk7.jpg)

most people used clear nail polish to dim the led, soldered a resistor or soldered new LED.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 16 November 2009, 10:23:54
"Sunbeam" is about right for that thing.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: lmnop on Mon, 16 November 2009, 10:27:18
yeah even the picture is annoying. imagine living with one. would be nice if costar used a reflector instead of individual led.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: CX23882 on Mon, 16 November 2009, 10:28:26
That is of course if 'her indoors' would allow you to use her precious nail polish...

Then again, she'd probably be more open to that idea than cutting up her tights! (unless you're a good husband/boyfriend, wash them for her, and they "got snagged in the washing machine")
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: lmnop on Mon, 16 November 2009, 10:29:34
are you not manly enough to go purchase a bottle of clear nail polish? :P
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 16 November 2009, 10:33:39
Hell, I have bought much less manly things in the past... and that was when I was single.
 
I find the manly things to be a little more embarassing, honestly, because they pretty much know it's for you.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 16 November 2009, 10:50:11
I like your hat.  You don't man-wax, do you?
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: lmnop on Mon, 16 November 2009, 10:50:44
lol I know it has solvents in it. I was just suggesting an alternative to a sharpie :)

you will be happy to know I own a soldering iron.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: lmnop on Mon, 16 November 2009, 11:27:45
lol if I could volt mod my blow dryer I would!

I used my soldering iron to volt mod my motherboard, all my video cards and a op-amp on my sound card.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 16 November 2009, 11:31:39
I think the last thing I soldered were some leads on a rechargable battery when I replaced the one in my Logitech MX1000.  Either that, or it was when I was doing the in-wall wiring for surround speakers in my house (soldering the speaker wire to the banana-plug wall plate).
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: lmnop on Mon, 16 November 2009, 11:32:19
(http://i37.tinypic.com/14afkv6.jpg)
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: AndrewZorn on Mon, 16 November 2009, 11:36:53
Quote from: ripster;132884
Notice the one in the middle works at my favorite company.
Show Image
(http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/additional/large/office_space_kit_mug.jpg)

wow i should have spotted that
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: AndrewZorn on Mon, 16 November 2009, 11:42:48
id post mine but its kind of excessive, i dont even have to google anymore to post office space reaction images, jump to conclusion mats (same image as before i think), etc
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Fri, 20 November 2009, 00:58:37
got a funny lookin package in the mail today

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=5826&stc=1&d=1258699506)

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=5827&stc=1&d=1258699517)

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=5828&stc=1&d=1258699531)

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=5829&stc=1&d=1258699551)

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=5830&stc=1&d=1258699580)

It's a festivus miracle!
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: AndrewZorn on Fri, 20 November 2009, 09:55:39
WHAT!?  i thought it was february!?

guess TODAY IS THE DAY to call and place my order!
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 20 November 2009, 10:19:44
You live in California.  We understand.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: ocdonkb on Fri, 20 November 2009, 17:58:55
Quote from: PRISONER 24601;134415
got a funny lookin package in the mail today

Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=5826&stc=1&d=1258699506)


Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=5827&stc=1&d=1258699517)


Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=5828&stc=1&d=1258699531)


Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=5829&stc=1&d=1258699551)


Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=5830&stc=1&d=1258699580)


It's a festivus miracle!


Does anyone else see these images? Only question marks show up here.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: AndrewZorn on Fri, 20 November 2009, 18:10:31
i didnt think there even WAS an image










but just to be clear, this IS from gemini?  if i call them on monday, i should see a keyboard soon?
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: clickclack on Fri, 20 November 2009, 23:43:26
Quote from: ocdonkb;134753
Does anyone else see these images? Only question marks show up here.


nope...
....unless the packages are supposed to be white with red bows =P
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Fri, 20 November 2009, 23:48:38
Hmm... that's strange. Where did the pictures go?

Actually, I think I understand.

Here isn't a picture of an unrelated box which did not arrive thursday at 4pm, and did not contain any sort of keyboard of which I am not clicking on at this very moment. It definitely didn't come from any place called [REDACTED], of which i have no knowledge.

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=5843&stc=1&d=1258782052)
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Sat, 21 November 2009, 00:02:06
Please come back and let us know what you think of the G80-3000. It's still my favourite keyboard. I'm afraid you have contracted the keyboard virus, but it's fun. If one types a lot in a day, then investing money and time to find the right keyboard makes sense. However, the problem is that one may never find the one and only keyboard. This is just human nature.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Sat, 21 November 2009, 00:16:21
Coincidentally, I found this behind a strange cookery called Kaiser Mao's on thursday at around 4. It's in the commercial district, right there on gemini, you can't miss it. The owner's a POS, but the food is tolerable.

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=5844&stc=1&d=1258783846)
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Sat, 21 November 2009, 00:38:34
Quote from: patrickgeekhack;134828
Please come back and let us know what you think of the G80-3000. It's still my favourite keyboard. I'm afraid you have contracted the keyboard virus, but it's fun. If one types a lot in a day, then investing money and time to find the right keyboard makes sense. However, the problem is that one may never find the one and only keyboard. This is just human nature.


at first, i didn't like it. at all. the springs are way stiffer than on my MX11800... "Too stiff" was my first impression.

Then again, the MX11800 was used. This is new, and has stiffer springs by nature to boot.

I realise that they'll loosen up over time, and I really like the PROMINENT tactile bump. I've typed about 8,000 words on it since thursday afternoon, and now I love it. I'm keeping in mind that the springs are new and may be built this way... To loosen up gradually over time.

It's also a very light and flexible keyboard. There isn't much "bulk" to it, and I'm not a fan of the snap together construction. It could be a bit more solid. Though, for $60, it's FAR better than any keyboard I've used in the past.

I like the simple and understated design, and the lasered keys which have this really cool embossed feel to them. I'm also loving these concave homerow keys.

It will take me a few months to really break in, but my initial impression is only "good" not "great"... Could just be that I hyped myself up for some uberkeyboard. The tactility is perfect, but it will take me some time to get used to the heavy springs and the loud, sharp noises that it makes.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 21 November 2009, 08:24:17
Someone thinking that Blue Cherry's are too stiff? That's a new one.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: microsoft windows on Sat, 21 November 2009, 08:58:14
Quote from: itlnstln;134495
You live in California.  We understand.


I bet my computers are banned in California.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 21 November 2009, 09:34:36
I am inclined to agree... I think we should just blanket ignore him from now on.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: Xero on Sat, 21 November 2009, 11:02:57
hmm sounds like i'm going to have to give gemini computer a call
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Sat, 21 November 2009, 13:12:40
Quote from: PRISONER 24601;134836
at first, i didn't like it. at all. the springs are way stiffer than on my MX11800... "Too stiff" was my first impression.

Then again, the MX11800 was used. This is new, and has stiffer springs by nature to boot.

I realise that they'll loosen up over time, and I really like the PROMINENT tactile bump. I've typed about 8,000 words on it since thursday afternoon, and now I love it. I'm keeping in mind that the springs are new and may be built this way... To loosen up gradually over time.

It's also a very light and flexible keyboard. There isn't much "bulk" to it, and I'm not a fan of the snap together construction. It could be a bit more solid. Though, for $60, it's FAR better than any keyboard I've used in the past.

I like the simple and understated design, and the lasered keys which have this really cool embossed feel to them. I'm also loving these concave homerow keys.

It will take me a few months to really break in, but my initial impression is only "good" not "great"... Could just be that I hyped myself up for some uberkeyboard. The tactility is perfect, but it will take me some time to get used to the heavy springs and the loud, sharp noises that it makes.


Give it some time. The keys feel stiff because you were coming from brown Cherries. I did notice them to be stiffer after I spent some time on my brown Cherries Filco. Of course, it was the complete opposite when I move to the G80 from my Customizer.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Sat, 21 November 2009, 13:31:49
Quote from: ripster;134901
Congrats on the new keyboard.  Give it a little time.  (nice pic too - especially of the keys).

I was surprised that the backup Blue Cherry Filco I just got feels noticeably stiffer than the old one.  The switches need some time to "break in".  And note: I'm NOT one of those AudioPhools that believe in amplifier break-in so it's not my imagination.

The noise is not going to change.  You either like it or don't (or load some double shot keys on it - BIG difference in sound there).


Funny you mention double shot keys. I already swapped some of them with 2-shots from one of my wyse boards (just to test), and it make a big difference in the feel and sound. Last night, I requested quotes for some high profile 2-shots to do a full swap with.

Where is the best place to get cheap but heavy duty keycaps? I wanna replace them with some nifty blue, green, or silver keys at a slightly different angle.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Sat, 21 November 2009, 13:34:22
Quote from: patrickgeekhack;134975
Give it some time. The keys feel stiff because you were coming from brown Cherries. I did notice them to be stiffer after I spent some time on my brown Cherries Filco. Of course, it was the complete opposite when I move to the G80 from my Customizer.


the blue remind me a bit of a Model M, and I'm fairly certain that a customizer or spacesaver will be my next purchase/trade.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Sat, 21 November 2009, 19:13:39
Quote from: PRISONER 24601;134986
the blue remind me a bit of a Model M, and I'm fairly certain that a customizer or spacesaver will be my next purchase/trade.


Really? I have the feeling that the Customizer is louder and more still than the blue Cherries.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Fri, 27 November 2009, 23:27:02
You know, I don't find myself typing even a bit more softly on this keyboard. I've really broken this thing in, to the point where the letter keys are softer and have a significantly different sound to them than the f-keys, and I still hit them harder than a pack mule on boxing day. What?

I don't think I could ever go back to my browns. Maybe with a different keyboard. Sometimes, I'll switch late at night and end up missing the sound and feel of the blues. Always happens. there's no difference in my touch-typing ability from one to the other, but that "bump" feeling is a welcome addition to my life. Seriously. After about a week, I went back to compare them again (the 11800 and the 3000), and the first thing I noticed was the lack of a prominent bump. It's strange cause I type pretty hard and got so used to the tactility that I didn't feel it anymore, it was just in the "back of my mind"... switching back made me notice it right off. It was pretty cool, actually. I was like "oh, damn, where'd my tactical tactile touch turn to?"

it could also be that my brain is linking the sound of the click and the tactile bump together, cause they happen at exactly the same time when you're typing fast. Either way, I like it.

I gotta admit, though, even now I find the sound a little jarring after 3 or 4 hours of typing. It could be a bit lower pitched. I'm curious now as to how much of a difference steel plate mounting makes on the sound/feel of the same switches. I'm thinking about taking one of my Wyse terminal boards, swapping the blacks out for blues, and rigging up a ps/2 or USB setup of some kind. It's probably not within my experience level (I can solder well, but I don't know how to troubleshoot circuit boards). I have a book called '101 ways to use your oscilloscope', but keyboard hacking is not in there. I need a new plan. Maybe I could take the controller out of another keyboard and rig it up to the Wyse easier? I don't know.

Oh, the G80-3000 is a pretty sweet keyboard. I'm gonna buy a couple more in a few weeks, if the deal is still good. I know a couple people that would love one of these under the Xmas tree. :)
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Fri, 27 November 2009, 23:37:15
Quote from: PRISONER 24601;136840
You know, I don't find myself typing even a bit more softly on this keyboard. I've really broken this thing in, to the point where the letter keys are softer and have a significantly different sound to them than the f-keys, and I still hit them harder than a pack mule on boxing day. What?

...

it could also be that my brain is linking the sound of the click and the tactile bump together, cause they happen at exactly the same time when you're typing fast. Either way, I like it.



It can take more than a week to start typing lighter. And if you are going back and forth with any keyboard, it can take longer. I know at the beginning I was typing quite hard on the G80 because I was alternating between my G80 and my Customizer. I started to type lighter on the G80 after I used it exclusively (at home) for quite a while. On Topre, it took me like a month before I started to stop bottoming with a lot of force.

That being said, although I have gotten better with the Topre, I'm still faster on my G80. You may be right in saying that the combination of the sound and the tactile bump plays a big role.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Sat, 28 November 2009, 00:18:05
ripster: thx, i'm already kind of in the market for some new doubleshots. I have access to a sandblaster at my dad's machine shop, so i might just stop by with all my shiny wyse 2shots... unshiny them a bit. I really dig the texture of these lasered keys. I like the scoops, but they're almost unnecessary cause the embossed feel is like braille to me. Also, they're pretty thick... relative to most cheap keyboards that is.

pgh: I can see myself being faster with these switches, but I was already pretty fast with rubber domes. I think the best move for me is going Colemak... After this semester is over maybe... It's a big move. I'm still in the market for a new BS board. If my marketplace ad doesn't snatch me up a good price, I'll probably order one from the clickykeyboards guy. Then, it's time to save up for a Topre. This is my mission.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 28 November 2009, 05:14:25
Quote from: PRISONER 24601;136840
I'm curious now as to how much of a difference steel plate mounting makes on the sound/feel of the same switches.


As far as I can tell, the plate doesn't make much of a difference to feel, other than making the keyboard more durable. In terms of sound, if you bottom out on a board with a steel plate, you get a 'ping' sound, and there may be a subtle difference when you don't bottom out, but Im not sure to what extent.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: microsoft windows on Sat, 28 November 2009, 07:33:01
The steel plate prevents the bottom of the keyboard unit from warping and bending to a degree.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Sat, 28 November 2009, 08:57:15
Quote from: PRISONER 24601;136848


pgh: I can see myself being faster with these switches, but I was already pretty fast with rubber domes. I think the best move for me is going Colemak... After this semester is over maybe... It's a big move. I'm still in the market for a new BS board. If my marketplace ad doesn't snatch me up a good price, I'll probably order one from the clickykeyboards guy. Then, it's time to save up for a Topre. This is my mission.


Just out of curiosity, why don't you get a Unicomp if you are looking for a buckling spring keyboard ? Personally, if I were to do it again, I would have picked a Spacesaver instead of the Customizer which has a big footprint.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Sat, 28 November 2009, 13:27:02
I'd like to get a Unicomp very badly. I'd probably get a Customizer because the spacesaver lacks the curved layout- which i've always liked. They're releasing a tenkeyless soon, right? I'll take 10.

I also (sometimes) like the sound of the 'ping', expecially when you've been typing with steady rhythm and it sorta turns into keyboard music. haha maybe i'm crazy. It can be annoying, depends on the tone. I want it mostly for the stability and weight. I could always *make* a thin steel plate for my Cherry. It would reduce the keystroke and might change the overall feel of the 'board. That, or I could make a steel frame for the bottom piece, bolting it to the plastic with a few washers. It wouldn't do much except increase the weight and remove flex, but it would be a hell of a lot easier than having to mill out an entire plate.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Sat, 28 November 2009, 13:54:46
Quote from: PRISONER 24601;136945
I'd like to get a Unicomp very badly. I'd probably get a Customizer because the spacesaver lacks the curved layout- which i've always liked. They're releasing a tenkeyless soon, right? I'll take 10.



Honestly, I don't know when they'll come up with a tenkeyless version. I've kind of heard about it, but I don't know if this is going to happen or not. That being said, I just pulled my Customizer out of the closet about an hour ago and my wife was thought it was hailing :-) I'm wondering if I will ever use it for an extended period of time ever again for the simple reason that it is very loud to begin with, but mostly because I find the keys to be way to heavy. This is kind of normal really. I started with rubber dome, then moved to a Customizer which was great compared to the rubber dome keyboards, but then I gradually shifted to lighter and lighter switches and liked the trend. Today, although I appreciated each key in its own right, I think it's safe to say that my three favourite switches are the Cherry MX Blue, Cherry MX Brown and the Topre.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: microsoft windows on Sat, 28 November 2009, 15:47:08
I've been using Model M's for a long time. They're great for typing on.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Sat, 28 November 2009, 16:04:41
Quote from: microsoft windows;136994
I've been using Model M's for a long time. They're great for typing on.


LOL! I'm not saying that they are not great to type on, but just that in my case. I found buckling spring to be wonderful when I moved from rubber domes to them, but then I discovered lighter switches which I like best. Moreover, noise level is a big factor in my case. This may not be a problem since you are in a basement. I could solve the noise problem if I move my office into the basement, but I prefer to be close to my baby girl than far from her.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Sat, 28 November 2009, 16:14:05
Quote from: patrickgeekhack;137009
This may not be a problem since you are in a basement.


haha I love this board more and more every day.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: AndrewZorn on Sat, 28 November 2009, 17:50:46
im still waiting for business hours to call them
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Sat, 28 November 2009, 18:21:16
Quote from: ripster;137028
So what's the scoop.  Prisoner got the last one of these at Gemini (http://www.geminicomputersinc.com/g80-3000lscrc-2.html) or something???


when i ordered it, they said "out of stock. january shipment." i told them, "take your time!" and it came 3 months early. I should have ordered 2 or 3 lol
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Sat, 28 November 2009, 18:27:08
Actually, I ordered on 11/7 and it came just a couple weeks later. Wow, this has been a slow month for me. It seemed like a long time.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 29 November 2009, 05:35:17
Quote from: PRISONER 24601;136945
I'd like to get a Unicomp very badly. I'd probably get a Customizer because the spacesaver lacks the curved layout- which i've always liked.

The Spacesaver/Endurapro is curved too.

Quote
They're releasing a tenkeyless soon, right? I'll take 10.

Don't hold your breath...
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: microsoft windows on Sun, 29 November 2009, 09:29:50
Quote from: patrickgeekhack;137009
LOL! I'm not saying that they are not great to type on, but just that in my case. I found buckling spring to be wonderful when I moved from rubber domes to them, but then I discovered lighter switches which I like best. Moreover, noise level is a big factor in my case. This may not be a problem since you are in a basement. I could solve the noise problem if I move my office into the basement, but I prefer to be close to my baby girl than far from her.


If noise bothers people and they start getting militant, you can always use the Model M as a club or choke someone with the cable.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Sun, 29 November 2009, 09:52:29
Quote from: microsoft windows;137101
If noise bothers people and they start getting militant, you can always use the Model M as a club or choke someone with the cable.


You are just not makig any sense. Why would I want to choke my daughter and my wife, when they are my reason to live? My daughter is worth more than every keyoard in the world.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 29 November 2009, 09:55:49
Quote from: patrickgeekhack;137125
You are just not makig any sense. Why would I want to choke my daughter and my wife, when they are my reason to live? My daughter is worth more than every keyoard in the world.


PROTIP: You're not meant to actually take him seriously :P
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Sun, 29 November 2009, 10:00:55
Quote from: ch_123;137128
PROTIP: You're not meant to actually take him seriously :P


I know. (Without any bad intention behind my comment) Who has taken Microsoft Windows very seriously lately? It's just that I never pass on an opportunity to express my love for my wife and daughter :-) They truly are my reason to live.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Mon, 30 November 2009, 01:17:45
took me a bit to realize that he's a gimmick poster/troll (one of many)... but i like his shtick. It's amusing at times.

Also, I just realised that the Spacesaver was curved like the Customizer. Didn't see that on the pictures at first. Does it have the same amount of curvature?

I still might end up with the customizer (if i'm gonna have a full sized keyboard, might as well go big) but now the ss is an option.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 30 November 2009, 03:22:35
In some ways, you can picture it as a Model M with the outer border chopped off, as far as I can tell, it has the same curvature. (It's innards can find into an older Model M case and vice-versa)
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Mon, 30 November 2009, 07:06:11
No, that's good. Actually, that kicks ass. I think I'll order one with my next paycheck. I understand they sound a bit different but hey that's cool.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Mon, 30 November 2009, 12:19:30
Quote from: ripster;137424
All they do with a Unicomp Spacesaver is stick the same assembly in a different plastic shell.  My son prefers it over the IBM for that reason (better mousing room).


Are your wife, your son and you all use your computers in the same room?
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Mon, 30 November 2009, 13:31:44
Quote from: ripster;137478
Nope, my office is downstairs.  They share a computer upstairs.


I don't think I would like someone else typing on a  BS in the same room where I'm trying to concentrate.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 30 November 2009, 13:41:21
I was at my GF's sister's house for Thanksgiving with 4 kids under 5 years old.  I wanted to punch something.  She has a two storey house with high ceilings, and the noise was unbearable.  They were ruining my football watching.  That, and it was Texas vs. Texas A&M, damnit.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Mon, 30 November 2009, 13:57:17
Quote from: itlnstln;137495
I was at my GF's sister's house for Thanksgiving with 4 kids under 5 years old.  I wanted to punch something.  She has a two storey house with high ceilings, and the noise was unbearable.  They were ruining my football watching.  That, and it was Texas vs. Texas A&M, damnit.


LOL. You'll be different once when you have your own kids.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Mon, 30 November 2009, 13:58:10
Quote from: PRISONER 24601;137399
No, that's good. Actually, that kicks ass. I think I'll order one with my next paycheck. I understand they sound a bit different but hey that's cool.


Do you want to stop before it's too late? :-)
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Mon, 30 November 2009, 14:47:45
o.0 I don't think I understand
stop what before what's too late?
stop doing keyboards? not likely.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Mon, 30 November 2009, 15:04:41
Quote from: PRISONER 24601;137509
o.0 I don't think I understand
stop what before what's too late?
stop doing keyboards? not likely.


Yes, stop buying keyboard, but I think you're already beyond the point of no return.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 30 November 2009, 16:04:58
Quote from: ripster;137424
All they do with a Unicomp Spacesaver is stick the same assembly in a different plastic shell.  My son prefers it over the IBM for that reason (better mousing room).


Well, not really, the Spacesaver assembly has no drainage channels =P

(Aside from that one tiny differenence, they are identical)
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Mon, 30 November 2009, 16:34:51
So, I plan on picking up another one of these in beige asap, and using the tips found in imav's fabulous rit dye thread to give it a nice chocolaty brown color :)

Then I'll take my black one and give it to my brother, he really liked it when he did a test drive... "this is amazing, what is this?" was his first impression.

What color would you use to compliment the dark or cocoa brown rit dye? A tannish color might work hmmm... I saw a link on here for a keyboard layout generator dealie, something I can use to try out different colors before I commit. Can't find it, though :(
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: PRISONER 24601 on Mon, 30 November 2009, 16:36:32
Also, yeah... point of no return. The deed has been done. I'm just gonna ride it out.
Live fast, dye keyboards, that's my motto.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 30 November 2009, 16:39:26
Quote from: PRISONER 24601;137550
What color would you use to compliment the dark or cocoa brown rit dye? A tannish color might work hmmm... I saw a link on here for a keyboard layout generator dealie, something I can use to try out different colors before I commit. Can't find it, though :(

Cream.
 
See Lowpoly's mini keyboard mockups for an idea.  One of them was a chocolate brown case with cream keys.  Yummy.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: microsoft windows on Mon, 30 November 2009, 17:07:21
It also never hurt to have a keyboard be all one color!
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Mon, 30 November 2009, 17:09:59
I only have one keyboard that is all one color, and it is an old 1996 Compaq keyboard with rubber dome sliders.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: Hak Foo on Thu, 31 December 2009, 17:03:26
My '3000LSCRC showed up today.  A birthday present promised to be backordered til January 26.

Gemini has no clue what Cherry does.  
It has a very different pitch than a white-ALPS or BS board.  Very light, softer than I expected the click.  I type a bit poorly, as I try to not strike the Customizer 104 slid to the side.  I bottom every stroke still.

The keys do look great, with the white-on-black, but I feel the raised text on the keys.

It has the same fault as the Solidtek-DSI 6600-- it's too low.  I like bigger feet.

Mine was made in Germany, surprising.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: AndrewZorn on Thu, 31 December 2009, 17:19:26
i almost forgot all about how much i wanted one of these
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: mp29k on Thu, 31 December 2009, 20:25:01
Does anyone know the US layout code for the exact same keyboard?  *Just like this one, but with no Chinese characters?
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: spolia optima on Fri, 01 January 2010, 15:10:39
I (Prisoner 24601... was a temp name) ordered one of these in nov. for a christmas present. It came just a few days after christmas. Not bad. Right after it arrived, I ordered another for myself, and I can't wait for it to come in. With all the money I've been sinking in these cherry boards, I could have bought a few filcos, maybe even a topre! Oh well, I like them a lot. I've got plenty of time to purchase more "boutique" boards in the future.

Right now I'm just looking to using 2 of these 3000's side by side with my desktop and notebook. :) Stupid, maybe, but at this point I doubt that logic and reasoning have anything in common with keyboard collecting.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: spolia optima on Fri, 01 January 2010, 15:49:15
Quote from: ripster;147138
Still says out of stock. (http://www.geminicomputersinc.com/g80-3000lscrc-2.html)


The machine is lying to you.

I had Gemini go and look + see if they can get the corean 'boards with the red switches and all, turns out they can't. That really painted my wagon, I wanted a red switched cherry so bad! They can, however, get the LSCRC and the LPCEU... They just have to special order the buggers.

Why can't anyone get those Korean 'boards? It's all the same damn company!
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: Rajagra on Sat, 02 January 2010, 15:51:50
Quote from: spolia optima;147148
The machine is lying to you.

But,... but...
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: sixty on Sun, 03 January 2010, 06:13:40
Quote from: spolia optima;147148
The machine is lying to you.

I had Gemini go and look + see if they can get the corean 'boards with the red switches and all, turns out they can't. That really painted my wagon, I wanted a red switched cherry so bad! They can, however, get the LSCRC and the LPCEU... They just have to special order the buggers.

Why can't anyone get those Korean 'boards? It's all the same damn company!


The deal here is that the boards (and probably the switch too) were made exclusively for a Japanese (not Korean) company named Scythe and were marketed under a different name originally. Korea and also Taiwan has imported some of these after the original run.

However, Cherry is not allowed to sell a "preconfigured" keyboard based on a serial number. Meaning if you go there and tell them "I need this keyboard with the product number ......" they will refuse to sell you one. You could in theory get the very same configuration from them, but you would have to request a quote yourself and buy the full minimum order quantity.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: elbowglue on Fri, 29 January 2010, 22:19:20
I had one on preorder, estimated delivery date was april of this year.  Cancelled it, I was tired of waiting :(
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: spolia optima on Sat, 30 January 2010, 03:30:57
Could it be possible that I'm just lucky? Both of my Gemini LSCRC orders arrived promptly within a couple weeks of purchase, despite the fact that they had to be drop-shipped. The last one was a 12/31 order, arrived on 01/15. This one's made in Germany, not CZ.

As for the switch being a custom run,  I'd rather not think about it. Cherry's model numbers already give me vertigo as it is.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Sat, 30 January 2010, 07:13:22
Has anyone called Gemini to custom order one? I did when they were out of stock and it arrived within less than a month. I may have to order another for my brother depending if I can get someone to go abroad.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: spolia optima on Thu, 25 February 2010, 13:54:24
Quote from: ripster;160651
Still out of stock.  (http://www.geminicomputersinc.com/g80-3000lscrc-2.html)

I think this was a classic example of the Chinese dumping excess inventory.  Now that they are pissed at us seeing the Dalai Lama I think this deal is dead.

I don't know
I've successfully ordered three of them, despite being "out of stock" the whole time.

But wait, these $60 "'chinese' excess inventory" boards... they're made in germany right?

the $120 filcos that you recommend to everyone... where are they produced again? switzerland? oh yeah, they're handcrafted by artisans in monaco how silly of me.

:yo:

edit: this post came off as kinda sardonic, which was not my intention. Diatec and Cherry = apples and oranges.
Also, there's nothing wrong with products made in taiwan.
similarly, on the flip, there's nothing intrinsically good about products made in germany (despite the claims of vince from shamwow).
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Thu, 25 February 2010, 13:57:43
Quote from: ripster;160651
Still out of stock.  (http://www.geminicomputersinc.com/g80-3000lscrc-2.html)

I think this was a classic example of the Chinese dumping excess inventory.  Now that they are pissed at us seeing the Dalai Lama I think this deal is dead.


Just got off the phone with Geminicomputers.com. It seems that they will have this product in stock in about 10-15 days. Those who want one can order one now or wait until the units are in stock. The part number is still a good one according to person I had over the phone.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: spolia optima on Thu, 25 February 2010, 14:02:10
Quote from: patrickgeekhack;160679
Just got off the phone with Geminicomputers.com. It seems that they will have this product in stock in about 10-15 days. Those who want one can order one now or wait until the units are in stock. The part number is still a good one according to person I had over the phone.

pft, you're always on the phone with gemini :p

If they had a brown cherry model, I would order a whole crate of them for my friends, family, and well-wishers. Don't feel like spending twice the dough at datacal, though it is incredibly tempting.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Thu, 25 February 2010, 14:11:58
Quote from: spolia optima;160680
pft, you're always on the phone with gemini :p


True :-) But, I am a big fan of this keyboard and would like everyone who wants one to be able to buy one.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 25 February 2010, 15:40:21
Quote from: spolia optima;160680
Don't feel like spending twice the dough at datacal, though it is incredibly tempting.

Get at least one.  It's worth it.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: platon on Thu, 25 February 2010, 17:06:48
I got a new G80-3000LSCEU-2 today.
I used for 2 hours or so at work, replacing temporarily my Filco with browns.

I'm thinking about writing a review. My first impression was "wow, this is  crap".
In two hours however i liked it a lot. The keyboard has it's own cosy character and an old school flavor.

My only complaint about it now are the switches. I wish they were brown not blue. It is a good keyboard nonetheless.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: spolia optima on Thu, 25 February 2010, 20:42:13
I think it's safe to say that brown is in this season
in and and fabulous
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: spolia optima on Thu, 25 February 2010, 20:48:52
Quote from: itlnstln;160696
Get at least one.  It's worth it.

if they have any inventory left when spring break comes, I'll probably end up with a pair of them. This strategy leaves me with an extra 'board to swap some black stems into.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: spolia optima on Fri, 26 February 2010, 15:22:05
wait a... the real one has NUBS?
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=8117&stc=1&d=1267219269)

oh it's the rubberdome. still
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 26 February 2010, 15:25:26
I found a pic of the narrator:
 
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=8118&stc=1&d=1267219479)
 
I'm going to wear this little bastard's picture out.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 26 February 2010, 15:49:04
After I got a call from the local Cherry rep, he was supposed to be working with a distribution partner on getting me those G80-1863s. Since then, I haven't heard back from them. Oh well...
 
Completely OT, I just got an e-mail from a buyer titled "BEAVER PRODUCTS." Nice.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 26 February 2010, 15:55:31
Hell, they were talking MOQs of 10.  I told them I would buy 50 and pawn them off on you schmucks.  Doesn't look that's going to happen anymore.  They were getting me all excited, too.  Bastards.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: Half-Saint on Wed, 03 March 2010, 06:05:53
Quote from: itlnstln;160696
Get at least one.  It's worth it.


So the keyboard advertised here uses black or blue switches?
http://www.geminicomputersinc.com/g80-3000lscrc-2.html

Cheers
SainT
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 03 March 2010, 08:11:32
Quote from: Half-Saint;161632
So the keyboard advertised here uses black or blue switches?
http://www.geminicomputersinc.com/g80-3000lscrc-2.html
 
Cheers
SainT

Blue.  Datacal is the only retailer with a brown version.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 03 March 2010, 09:21:05
What I have found out in this whole process of trying to get G80-1800s is that no one really seems to deal with Cherry USA directly.  Cherry has regional distributors, manufacturers, etc. that handle retailers.  I spoke to a rep. that handles Cherry products but doesn't work for Cherry, and he directed me to a few major distributors (which I still need to call) that handle OEM orders.  It seems that Cherry USA is not really a company/division but a network of USA-based distributors/sales companies.
 
BTW, Datacal gets their Cherry 'boards (the G80-3000s, at least) from Germany.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 03 March 2010, 10:08:24
I think he's a cheap knockoff.
 
I'm not saying that Cherry USA doesn't exist, it's just that it seems that they don't directly deal with people.  The company, insomuch as manufactuing and distributing, seems to be non-existent.
Title: G80-3000lscrc-2
Post by: Mental Hobbit on Wed, 03 March 2010, 10:58:26
I suspect Cherry USA doesn't deal with keyboards at all, only industrial switches and automotive stuff. Probably the entire keyboard business is handled by the Germans.