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Title: Does anyone know Parabellum?
Post by: Tennobanzai on Tue, 29 September 2015, 15:13:26
Just wondering if anyone knows Parabellum and if they can contact him for me. I only know his email but nothing else. I bought a keyboard from him about a month ago. I haven't heard back from him since I paid.

Maybe i'm a little paranoid since the last time I bought something off GH, I was scammed.
Title: Re: Does anyone know Parabellum?
Post by: digi on Tue, 29 September 2015, 15:14:03
Just wondering if anyone knows Parabellum and if they can contact him for me. I only know his email but nothing else. I bought a keyboard from him about a month ago. I haven't heard back from him since I paid.

Maybe i'm a little paranoid since the last time I bought something off GH, I was scammed.

Did you try to contact him via Paypal?
Title: Re: Does anyone know Parabellum?
Post by: Tennobanzai on Tue, 29 September 2015, 15:15:59
I clicked on the "contact seller" link but it brings me to the dispute center. I don't want to dispute it at least yet.
Title: Re: Does anyone know Parabellum?
Post by: digi on Tue, 29 September 2015, 15:17:26
I clicked on the "contact seller" link but it brings me to the dispute center. I don't want to dispute it at least yet.

There are two levels with Paypal, Dispute = contact the seller, "hey, where's my ****?"

Next level if it's not resolved is called a "Claim"...that's when Paypal steps in..
Title: Re: Does anyone know Parabellum?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 29 September 2015, 15:19:36
I don't know anything about Parabellum other than another user on here was concerned about a deal they made with that user, not sure what happened with them but I pm'd them this thread if they want to speak publicly about it.
Title: Re: Does anyone know Parabellum?
Post by: Tennobanzai on Tue, 29 September 2015, 15:25:10
I clicked on the "contact seller" link but it brings me to the dispute center. I don't want to dispute it at least yet.

There are two levels with Paypal, Dispute = contact the seller, "hey, where's my ****?"

Next level if it's not resolved is called a "Claim"...that's when Paypal steps in..
I think I just did it correctly. I just opened a dispute and waiting for his reply. I have a few weeks to make it a claim.

I don't know anything about Parabellum other than another user on here was concerned about a deal they made with that user, not sure what happened with them but I pm'd them this thread if they want to speak publicly about it.
Thank you!
Title: Re: Does anyone know Parabellum?
Post by: E3E on Thu, 01 October 2015, 15:23:28
I clicked on the "contact seller" link but it brings me to the dispute center. I don't want to dispute it at least yet.

There are two levels with Paypal, Dispute = contact the seller, "hey, where's my ****?"

Next level if it's not resolved is called a "Claim"...that's when Paypal steps in..
I think I just did it correctly. I just opened a dispute and waiting for his reply. I have a few weeks to make it a claim.

I don't know anything about Parabellum other than another user on here was concerned about a deal they made with that user, not sure what happened with them but I pm'd them this thread if they want to speak publicly about it.
Thank you!

Yep. I've dealt with Parabellum as well. He offered to sell me some blue alps switches when I bumped my WTB thread in the classifieds looking for some. He responded via PM, we talked quite a bit. He offered me 102, then mentioned having another 105, and then another 102 I believe. We were having a decent conversation and he seemed friendly enough. He asked to be paid via a gift payment on PayPal, and though my gut told me not to do it, I did. I had never gotten scammed in the community thus far and have had pleasant transactions with everyone I've dealt with.

Well, to show my gratitude, I desoldered some Orange Alps I had in an AEK for him. I even paid for the shipping label and took pictures of the desoldering process. In the end, I figured he was scamming me thanks to his reluctance to show pictures when I asked for pictures of the goods he offered. He told me he did not have a camera on his phone and that his digital camera was out of batteries and that, by the time he got them, the switches would have already been shipped.

This seemed dodgy to me, and so I voiced my concern, telling him I was not going to ship the switches until he could get a picture, telling him to hold the shipment until then. Without openly accusing him, I mentioned that I was worried but felt like he couldn't be a scammer since he had ostensibly legit transactions on Deskthority and GH in the past (which are now showing to be fradulent, ironically enough).

Well, ever since that PM, he went offline and never returned. The fact I tracked his posts on the two forums might have spooked him or something, but obviously it's not something a person does when they were previously acting chatty and friendly.

Throughout our talks, the main points of suspicion were his continued offerings of the switches, mentioning a few switches with "bent stems and solder marks" (okay, how do you bend an Alps stem? It's practically a brick. Secondly, he said he was an electrical engineer, so I'd figure one wouldn't be so careless as to let the soldering iron touch the switches), his request for me to pay via gift, and the fact he went from telling me I could ship the orange switches I offered months later, when he needed them, to his request for me to ship them ASAP.

Yep, I was overjoyed at first because it seemed I found the elusive switches I was looking for, so I glazed over a lot of the red flags until it was too late. At least I kept my orange alps switches, but he got $90 from me and I wasted $11 on a shipping label I never used.

I should note that someone on Deskthority mentioned being ripped off by him as well.  http://deskthority.net/for-sale-f55/programmable-g80-3700-t11482.html#p252063

Seems like Para just decided to step out of the community and take unsuspecting buyers' money with him.

At least you did use an invoice or a payment sent for goods/services, so you're protected. I am not, and so my money is gone. X3

I also found his payment address to be strange too, since it was "Parabellum@usa.com" or something like that, though the guy's in Sweden.  I feel so dumb, but whatev.
Title: Re: Does anyone know Parabellum?
Post by: digi on Thu, 01 October 2015, 15:29:08
I clicked on the "contact seller" link but it brings me to the dispute center. I don't want to dispute it at least yet.

There are two levels with Paypal, Dispute = contact the seller, "hey, where's my ****?"

Next level if it's not resolved is called a "Claim"...that's when Paypal steps in..
I think I just did it correctly. I just opened a dispute and waiting for his reply. I have a few weeks to make it a claim.

I don't know anything about Parabellum other than another user on here was concerned about a deal they made with that user, not sure what happened with them but I pm'd them this thread if they want to speak publicly about it.
Thank you!

Yep. I've dealt with Parabellum as well. He offered to sell me some blue alps switches when I bumped my WTB thread in the classifieds looking for some. He responded via PM, we talked quite a bit. He offered me 102, then mentioned having another 105, and then another 102 I believe. We were having a decent conversation and he seemed friendly enough. He asked to be paid via a gift payment on PayPal, and though my gut told me not to do it, I did. I had never gotten scammed in the community thus far and have had pleasant transactions with everyone I've dealt with.

Well, to show my gratitude, I desoldered some Orange Alps I had in an AEK for him. I even paid for the shipping label and took pictures of the desoldering process. In the end, I figured he was scamming me thanks to his reluctance to show pictures when I asked for pictures of the goods he offered. He told me he did not have a camera on his phone and that his digital camera was out of batteries and that, by the time he got them, the switches would have already been shipped.

This seemed dodgy to me, and so I voiced my concern, telling him I was not going to ship the switches until he could get a picture, telling him to hold the shipment until then. Without openly accusing him, I mentioned that I was worried but felt like he couldn't be a scammer since he had ostensibly legit transactions on Deskthority and GH in the past.

Well, ever since that PM, he went offline and never returned. The fact I tracked his posts on the two forums might have spooked him or something, but obviously it's not something a person does when they were previously acting chatty and friendly.

Throughout our talks, the main points of suspicion were his continued offerings of the switches, mentioning a few switches with "bent stems and solder marks" (okay, how do you bend an Alps stem? It's practically a brick. Secondly, he said he was an electrical engineer, so I'd figure one wouldn't be so careless as to let the soldering iron touch the switches), his request for me to pay via gift, and the fact he went from telling me I could ship the orange switches I offered months later, when he needed them, to his request for me to ship them ASAP.

Yep, I was overjoyed at first because it seemed I found the elusive switches I was looking for, so I glazed over a lot of the red flags until it was too late. At least I kept my orange alps switches, but he got $90 from me and I wasted $11 on a shipping label I never used.

I should note that someone on Deskthority mentioned being ripped off by him as well.  http://deskthority.net/for-sale-f55/programmable-g80-3700-t11482.html#p252063

Seems like Para just decided to step out of the community and take unsuspecting buyers' money with him.

At least you did use an invoice or a payment sent for goods/services, so you're protected. I am not, and so my money is gone. X3

I also found his payment address to be strange too, since it was "Parabellum@usa.com" or something like that, though the guy's in Sweden.  I feel so dumb, but whatev.

Really sucks dude, sorry to hear that.

This is exactly why I only Sell & Buy using Paypal Goods...takes the stress out of it if someone decides to go full retard.
Title: Re: Does anyone know Parabellum?
Post by: Tennobanzai on Thu, 01 October 2015, 20:15:43
I clicked on the "contact seller" link but it brings me to the dispute center. I don't want to dispute it at least yet.

There are two levels with Paypal, Dispute = contact the seller, "hey, where's my ****?"

Next level if it's not resolved is called a "Claim"...that's when Paypal steps in..
I think I just did it correctly. I just opened a dispute and waiting for his reply. I have a few weeks to make it a claim.

I don't know anything about Parabellum other than another user on here was concerned about a deal they made with that user, not sure what happened with them but I pm'd them this thread if they want to speak publicly about it.
Thank you!

Yep. I've dealt with Parabellum as well. He offered to sell me some blue alps switches when I bumped my WTB thread in the classifieds looking for some. He responded via PM, we talked quite a bit. He offered me 102, then mentioned having another 105, and then another 102 I believe. We were having a decent conversation and he seemed friendly enough. He asked to be paid via a gift payment on PayPal, and though my gut told me not to do it, I did. I had never gotten scammed in the community thus far and have had pleasant transactions with everyone I've dealt with.

Well, to show my gratitude, I desoldered some Orange Alps I had in an AEK for him. I even paid for the shipping label and took pictures of the desoldering process. In the end, I figured he was scamming me thanks to his reluctance to show pictures when I asked for pictures of the goods he offered. He told me he did not have a camera on his phone and that his digital camera was out of batteries and that, by the time he got them, the switches would have already been shipped.

This seemed dodgy to me, and so I voiced my concern, telling him I was not going to ship the switches until he could get a picture, telling him to hold the shipment until then. Without openly accusing him, I mentioned that I was worried but felt like he couldn't be a scammer since he had ostensibly legit transactions on Deskthority and GH in the past (which are now showing to be fradulent, ironically enough).

Well, ever since that PM, he went offline and never returned. The fact I tracked his posts on the two forums might have spooked him or something, but obviously it's not something a person does when they were previously acting chatty and friendly.

Throughout our talks, the main points of suspicion were his continued offerings of the switches, mentioning a few switches with "bent stems and solder marks" (okay, how do you bend an Alps stem? It's practically a brick. Secondly, he said he was an electrical engineer, so I'd figure one wouldn't be so careless as to let the soldering iron touch the switches), his request for me to pay via gift, and the fact he went from telling me I could ship the orange switches I offered months later, when he needed them, to his request for me to ship them ASAP.

Yep, I was overjoyed at first because it seemed I found the elusive switches I was looking for, so I glazed over a lot of the red flags until it was too late. At least I kept my orange alps switches, but he got $90 from me and I wasted $11 on a shipping label I never used.

I should note that someone on Deskthority mentioned being ripped off by him as well.  http://deskthority.net/for-sale-f55/programmable-g80-3700-t11482.html#p252063

Seems like Para just decided to step out of the community and take unsuspecting buyers' money with him.

At least you did use an invoice or a payment sent for goods/services, so you're protected. I am not, and so my money is gone. X3

I also found his payment address to be strange too, since it was "Parabellum@usa.com" or something like that, though the guy's in Sweden.  I feel so dumb, but whatev.
Thanks for the reply. Your story sounds very similar to mine and sorry to hear you sent it as a gift.

I created a WTB thread and he PM'd me. I wanted pictures before I buy it but he insisted it's like any other Filco MX Black TLK board. I agreed anyways without pics and he asked to send money as gift or cover paypal fees. I always check the sellers basic info and noticed he's been a member for a few years so I almost sent it as a gift but remembered this is the same thing I thought the last time I was scammed on GH. So I just thought to cover the paypal fees.

It might of been a red flag he was selling me a basically brand new Filco MJ2 TLK for $80 internationally shipped but I haven't been active lately and don't know the market prices. I just thought to myself it's a great deal and went ahead.

The only thing that might make sense is that Parabellum somehow made all these transaction and then something happened to him personally (health, emergency, etc). I can understand that and I don't want to pass judgement on him, but as a buyer the agreement has not been fulfilled on his end.
Title: Re: Does anyone know Parabellum?
Post by: Tennobanzai on Thu, 01 October 2015, 20:18:43
Btw, does anyone have experience with opening a claim? I'm not sure how much info they want.
Title: Re: Does anyone know Parabellum?
Post by: E3E on Thu, 01 October 2015, 20:26:04
Yeah, I definitely thought of the possibility of an unfortunate coincidence happening, but the guy was literally active on Geekhack for three hours after my PM regarding my concern was sent before disappearing entirely (meaning he likely read what I wrote, but obviously I can't be entirely sure of that), and he'd typically reply very quickly to every message I'd send him.

I can't say for certain if he's a scammer or not, but given the circumstances and how he insisted on a gift payment and sending the items without pictures at all with more than just one person definitely point more toward him being a fraudulent seller.

I've opened up claims with PayPal before regarding eBay items. There should be a resolution center where you can handle all claims. To start a claim, you might need to locate the transaction in your transaction history and then there should be an option there. Sorry for the vague details, but it should be somewhat intuitive once you're in the right place.
Title: Re: Does anyone know Parabellum?
Post by: Herothereu on Fri, 02 October 2015, 10:53:15
Just wondering if anyone knows Parabellum and if they can contact him for me. I only know his email but nothing else. I bought a keyboard from him about a month ago. I haven't heard back from him since I paid.

Maybe i'm a little paranoid since the last time I bought something off GH, I was scammed.

My mom taught me, "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me".
Title: Re: Does anyone know Parabellum?
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 02 October 2015, 11:15:21
My mom taught me, "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me".

Title: Re: Does anyone know Parabellum?
Post by: paicrai on Fri, 02 October 2015, 11:21:59
NEIN MILLIMETER PARABELLUM
Title: Re: Does anyone know Parabellum?
Post by: KatzenKinder on Fri, 02 October 2015, 17:23:17
He "sold" me a beige G80, promised tracking and then dropped off the face of the earth since Sept. 6th. I've since escalated to a PP claim, seeing this makes me a little more sure that he's big skam :v
Title: Re: Does anyone know Parabellum?
Post by: Tennobanzai on Fri, 02 October 2015, 17:37:47
He "sold" me a beige G80, promised tracking and then dropped off the face of the earth since Sept. 6th. I've since escalated to a PP claim, seeing this makes me a little more sure that he's big skam :v
Are you ba7777 on deskthority?
Title: Re: Does anyone know Parabellum?
Post by: KatzenKinder on Fri, 02 October 2015, 17:46:44
He "sold" me a beige G80, promised tracking and then dropped off the face of the earth since Sept. 6th. I've since escalated to a PP claim, seeing this makes me a little more sure that he's big skam :v
Are you ba7777 on deskthority?

No, my account on DT is KatzenKinder as well.
Title: Re: Does anyone know Parabellum?
Post by: E3E on Fri, 02 October 2015, 18:05:45
Yeah, this guy. I'll see what I can do through paypal, but since I sent the payment as a gift, I'm assuming there's nothing I can do. :/
Title: Re: Does anyone know Parabellum?
Post by: Tennobanzai on Thu, 08 October 2015, 18:09:27
E3E, I reread what you said and thought that you might be able to at least get your money back from the shipping cost. Not sure who you used but looks like usps can do refunds. Doesn't really help all your money lost but at least it lessens the pain  :(

https://www.usps.com/help/refunds.htm
Title: Re: Does anyone know Parabellum?
Post by: E3E on Thu, 08 October 2015, 19:23:51
E3E, I reread what you said and thought that you might be able to at least get your money back from the shipping cost. Not sure who you used but looks like usps can do refunds. Doesn't really help all your money lost but at least it lessens the pain  :(

https://www.usps.com/help/refunds.htm

Thanks Tenno,

I'll definitely look into this. $11 is something, even if it seems like a meager amount.. Shame that this guy had to run off with people's money like that. Did you manage to get yours back through a claim with PayPal?
Title: Re: Does anyone know Parabellum?
Post by: Tennobanzai on Thu, 08 October 2015, 21:49:17
PayPal is still waiting for his response. Still have a week or 2 till PayPal decides
Title: Re: Does anyone know Parabellum?
Post by: E3E on Thu, 08 October 2015, 22:01:21
PayPal is still waiting for his response. Still have a week or 2 till PayPal decides

Sounds good, man.  From my experience with disputes, you'll most likely get your money back if he doesn't respond, and even so, I don't think there's much he can argue.
Title: Does anyone know Parabellum?
Post by: KatzenKinder on Fri, 09 October 2015, 14:53:31
PP gave me my funds back
(O v O")
Title: Re: Does anyone know Parabellum?
Post by: E3E on Fri, 09 October 2015, 15:32:32
PP gave me my funds back
(O v O")

The eternal sadness of my money being spent in Sweden somewhere. TwT I'll probably not see you again $90, but I guess if someone needed you, then I hope ya helped someone. DESPITE NOT HELPING ME.

Haha, well... Thems the breaks!
Title: Re: Does anyone know Parabellum?
Post by: Sed8op8 on Fri, 09 October 2015, 23:15:14
PP gave me my funds back
(O v O")

The eternal sadness of my money being spent in Sweden somewhere. TwT I'll probably not see you again $90, but I guess if someone needed you, then I hope ya helped someone. DESPITE NOT HELPING ME.

Haha, well... Thems the breaks!
wow this really sucks guys   :mad:  I noticed your name e3e since our recent talks and you have been an absolute sweetheart so I'm really bummed about this but hopefully his Swedish reign of terror is over and as you have said "thems the breaks!" Someone should shoot them damn breaks  :eek:
Title: Re: Does anyone know Parabellum?
Post by: E3E on Sat, 10 October 2015, 17:47:45
PP gave me my funds back
(O v O")

The eternal sadness of my money being spent in Sweden somewhere. TwT I'll probably not see you again $90, but I guess if someone needed you, then I hope ya helped someone. DESPITE NOT HELPING ME.

Haha, well... Thems the breaks!
wow this really sucks guys   :mad:  I noticed your name e3e since our recent talks and you have been an absolute sweetheart so I'm really bummed about this but hopefully his Swedish reign of terror is over and as you have said "thems the breaks!" Someone should shoot them damn breaks  :eek:

Aww, thanks for the kind words, Ash! Yeeeah, the $90 would've totally went to some cool projects if it wasn't for him, haha. X3 SHOOT THE BRAKES BREAKS!
Title: Re: Does anyone know Parabellum?
Post by: Tennobanzai on Wed, 14 October 2015, 15:37:50
Paypal responded in my favor. I hope E3E at least gets refunded for the shipping label.
Title: Re: Does anyone know Parabellum?
Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 14 October 2015, 16:33:03
Man that stinks. I just don't understand people like that.
Title: Re: Does anyone know Parabellum?
Post by: njbair on Wed, 14 October 2015, 16:46:00
Man that stinks. I just don't understand people like that.
People like this have no shame. Shame is predicated on dignity, and every time you take advantage of a person you sacrifice your dignity. Eventually you're left with no self worth, and thus no guilt or shame. It's a horrible way to live.
Title: Re: Does anyone know Parabellum?
Post by: engicoder on Wed, 14 October 2015, 18:46:50
Man that stinks. I just don't understand people like that.
People like this have no shame. Shame is predicated on dignity, and every time you take advantage of a person you sacrifice your dignity. Eventually you're left with no self worth, and thus no guilt or shame. It's a horrible way to live.

Eventually their self worth is predicated on their ability take advantage of others.
Title: Re: Does anyone know Parabellum?
Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 14 October 2015, 18:58:11

Man that stinks. I just don't understand people like that.
People like this have no shame. Shame is predicated on dignity, and every time you take advantage of a person you sacrifice your dignity. Eventually you're left with no self worth, and thus no guilt or shame. It's a horrible way to live.

Eventually their self worth is predicated on their ability take advantage of others.

Sociopath