Post by: potatowire on Fri, 02 October 2015, 15:57:05
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I'm going to get the letter legends smaller, I think.
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Pictures of the final product included here too.
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Post by: jerue on Fri, 02 October 2015, 22:16:25
The font is a bit off but I think that's just because of what's used with SA Retro.
If I were to try this, I would get the color green you got, the font to match what's on SA Retro, and DIY side-print the arrow icons.
Post by: potatowire on Sat, 03 October 2015, 08:58:27
(http://www.catonmat.net/images/why-vim-uses-hjkl/adm-3a-hjkl-keyboard.jpg)
More info here (http://www.catonmat.net/blog/why-vim-uses-hjkl-as-arrow-keys/).
After sleeping on it, I am definitely going have the font made smaller, I just hope SP doesn't rake me over the coals by charging me the full price again. I bought a bunch of the Vim Caps Lock replacement keys, so hopefully selling those will offset this (probably) failed experiment.
Post by: darkspider on Sat, 03 October 2015, 09:26:56
Post by: potatowire on Sat, 03 October 2015, 09:35:22
Post by: skaloola on Mon, 02 November 2015, 05:09:22
how did you order a bunch of the vim capslocks? did you order a bunch of symbiosis kits or were you somehow able to make a custom order?
Post by: My_Thoughts on Mon, 02 November 2015, 05:19:33
Post by: Liocer on Mon, 02 November 2015, 05:35:49
Post by: kebby on Mon, 02 November 2015, 07:27:46
Post by: tronbeaver on Mon, 02 November 2015, 09:05:10
I like the idea of front-printed arrows, but I wanted to match the style of the original ADM-3A terminal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADM-3A), which is the basis for Vim's HJKL nav.Show Image(http://www.catonmat.net/images/why-vim-uses-hjkl/adm-3a-hjkl-keyboard.jpg)
More info here (http://www.catonmat.net/blog/why-vim-uses-hjkl-as-arrow-keys/).
After sleeping on it, I am definitely going have the font made smaller, I just hope SP doesn't rake me over the coals by charging me the full price again. I bought a bunch of the Vim Caps Lock replacement keys, so hopefully selling those will offset this (probably) failed experiment.
How much were those?
Post by: shinigamiyuk on Mon, 02 November 2015, 15:15:10
I had some Vim keycaps made, what do you think?
I'm going to get the letter legends smaller, I think.
As a fellow Vim user I enjoy what you did here.
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 02 November 2015, 16:56:11
Fantastic :D, it's nice to know that we have some Vim users around. And those caps are really nice. Waiting on my DSAs from Signature plastics.
Welcome to Geekhack!
How long have you been using Vim for?
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 02 November 2015, 17:04:07
Post by: Liocer on Tue, 03 November 2015, 09:21:01
I'll also mention that there is a thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38996.0) for Vim fans :)Probably about 10-15 years on and off, I've tried other editors but I keep coming back to vim, it really helps that my dotfiles can follow me around. :)
Post by: potatowire on Tue, 03 November 2015, 14:29:36
I paid the regular tiered price for the caps locks (x cost per number of keys purchased), but on top of that I had to pay a couple hundred dollars for the new hjkl legends (four keys x two profiles).
The good news is that Melissa sent me a new set of keys with smaller letter legends, because she made a mistake in putting the order in. It's been said before, but she's great. I'm still away from home, but I'll take new pictures once I'm back.
I bought a bunch of extras, hoping I can make back my investment. I have everything in hand and will be selling them soon. I'd love to get some input on what you think a good price is (I'll also sell the caps lock separate from the hjkl keys, in case folks don't want both).
Post by: kebby on Tue, 03 November 2015, 17:12:14
Hello all, I've been traveling and missed these new replies till now. I am glad to see there's been some interest!
I paid the regular tiered price for the caps locks (x cost per number of keys purchased), but on top of that I had to pay a couple hundred dollars for the new hjkl legends (four keys x two profiles).
The good news is that Melissa sent me a new set of keys with smaller letter legends, because she made a mistake in putting the order in. It's been said before, but she's great. I'm still away from home, but I'll take new pictures once I'm back.
I bought a bunch of extras, hoping I can make back my investment. I have everything in hand and will be selling them soon. I'd love to get some input on what you think a good price is (I'll also sell the caps lock separate from the hjkl keys, in case folks don't want both).
Thanks! that's really interesting to me because I've been thinking about getting a novelty with a custom legend made myself. Guess I should contact SP to find out more.
Love the HJKL. Don't really know about the pricing, guess looking at what WASD sets and novelties typically cost is a good start.
Post by: Liocer on Tue, 03 November 2015, 17:16:07
Post by: atectatifern on Tue, 03 November 2015, 21:00:58
Post by: ideus on Tue, 03 November 2015, 21:51:19
Post by: potatowire on Wed, 04 November 2015, 07:03:38
They look very nice, but the font is larger than the rest of the alphas, as someone pointed already.I agree (SP put the order in wrong), and I have new versions waiting for me at home. I'll post updated pictures when I return from my travels.
Post by: thefebruaryman on Wed, 04 November 2015, 13:20:31
Post by: potatowire on Wed, 04 November 2015, 14:11:28
The only way is vim. You put in the time to learn her and she never stops giving back
Truer words were never spoken...
Post by: tronbeaver on Thu, 05 November 2015, 10:59:23
Post by: ideus on Thu, 05 November 2015, 15:10:21
They look very nice, but the font is larger than the rest of the alphas, as someone pointed already.I agree (SP put the order in wrong), and I have new versions waiting for me at home. I'll post updated pictures when I return from my travels.
It would be great to take a look at them.
Post by: potatowire on Thu, 05 November 2015, 15:44:51
Here's a quick phone pic. I'll take some better ones later.They look very nice, but the font is larger than the rest of the alphas, as someone pointed already.I agree (SP put the order in wrong), and I have new versions waiting for me at home. I'll post updated pictures when I return from my travels.
It would be great to take a look at them.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/05/661d9c5eaaa93498c7c61f1740eb99ed.jpg)
This is more like what I had in mind.
Post by: potatowire on Thu, 05 November 2015, 16:18:09
Time for a Group Buy!
I'm pretty sure I bought enough for everyone who's interested right now, so there should be no need for a group buy. I have the keycaps, so I just need to get packing materials and decide on a pricing.
Post by: potatowire on Sat, 07 November 2015, 15:47:15
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/07/23dc09b452389d8fdb3da92e79b9de02.jpg)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/07/64801c0d0e2122d115f502784ca36bf5.jpg)
Post by: ideus on Sat, 07 November 2015, 16:07:21
Post by: potatowire on Sat, 07 November 2015, 17:01:43
Would GMK make an HJKL set with pad printed arrows?I figured GMK's MOQ would be too high, but I have considered JTK (once they finish their initial runs) or Gateron. I would like these in Cherry profile, for sure. I'll see how well these sell and maybe try that next.
Post by: ideus on Sat, 07 November 2015, 17:06:15
Would GMK make an HJKL set with pad printed arrows?I figured GMK's MOQ would be too high, but I have considered JTK (once they finish their initial runs) or Gateron. I would like these in Cherry profile, for sure. I'll see how well these sell and maybe try that next.
I bet the more feasible option would be Gateron in dye sub. JTK is not taking custom orders at the moment.
Post by: potatowire on Sat, 07 November 2015, 17:32:32
Agreed. I'll have to figure out how to talk to them about custom orders. A brief search of the interwebs didn't bear any fruit last time I tried.Would GMK make an HJKL set with pad printed arrows?I figured GMK's MOQ would be too high, but I have considered JTK (once they finish their initial runs) or Gateron. I would like these in Cherry profile, for sure. I'll see how well these sell and maybe try that next.
I bet the more feasible option would be Gateron in dye sub. JTK is not taking custom orders at the moment.
Post by: Jhonan on Sat, 07 November 2015, 18:23:45
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 07 November 2015, 20:10:06
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Jk14QOV.jpg)
Put simply, it is a text editor.
Some might say THE text editor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vim_%28text_editor%29
http://www.vim.org/
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38996.0
Post by: demik on Sat, 07 November 2015, 21:17:20
Post by: beehatch on Sat, 07 November 2015, 21:49:03
i remember these
no you don't, you old ****
Post by: demik on Sat, 07 November 2015, 21:50:55
i remember these
no you don't, you old ****
stfu
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 07 November 2015, 21:57:51
Post by: potatowire on Tue, 10 November 2015, 11:10:20
I plan to go for a sales price of $6 for the Caps Lock replacement, $10 for the set of HJKL keys, and $15 for both. I have SA and DSA profiles. The keys are already on hand, so shipment will be pretty much right away (waiting for packing materials to arrive).
Hopefully this strikes a good balance between a fair price and one that allows me to recoup some of the money it cost me to have these made. If I more than break even, I'll roll that money into a couple other projects I have in mind.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 10 November 2015, 11:59:07
Post by: gabamnml on Tue, 10 November 2015, 15:32:57
I need this keycaps...
Post by: Steezus on Tue, 10 November 2015, 15:40:44
Thanks for investing in getting these caps made, I'm sure you'll be able to make your money back.
Post by: Homenubbie on Tue, 10 November 2015, 16:41:15
Post by: Steezus on Tue, 10 November 2015, 17:36:26
Signature Plastics sells a VIM key.
This is more than the VIM Key, it's the HJKL keys as well.
Post by: atectatifern on Tue, 10 November 2015, 17:59:19
Post by: potatowire on Tue, 10 November 2015, 19:14:15
Post by: trenzafeeds on Tue, 10 November 2015, 19:22:59
Post by: potatowire on Tue, 10 November 2015, 19:47:49
Signature Plastics sells a VIM key.
SP does make these, true, but they didn't have any of the Caps Lock replacements in stock at the time (they still don't, as far as I can tell), so I placed an order.
This is more than the VIM Key, it's the HJKL keys as well.
As Steezus said (thank you!), the HJKL keys are the different thing here. I had the idea I wanted the keys from the ADM-3A terminal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADM-3A), but in Vim green, and these are the result.
Post by: potatowire on Tue, 10 November 2015, 21:42:35
Yes, please be sure to update on this thread when you post the the buying thread. At such a low price there's no way I can't buy a set or two.
I will definitely post here as soon as I am ready to go. Thank you for the support!
Post by: potatowire on Sat, 14 November 2015, 21:59:17
Post by: atectatifern on Sun, 15 November 2015, 17:36:09
Post by: potatowire on Sun, 15 November 2015, 20:06:54
Ordered a set of each -- expect you'll see a bit of pushback on that shipping, though -- $10.00 is a little stiff for shipping a few keycaps. Good luck with the sale!
Thank you! I saw that about the shipping, and I apparently missed the shipping field. I thought it was going to fill the shipping based on actual location. It looks like yours will just be a couple bucks, and I will refund you the difference when I make sure I did it right.
Post by: atectatifern on Sun, 15 November 2015, 20:14:59
Sweet! No need to refund the difference on mine since I did buy seeing the shipping as it was. I expect you'll sell out fast now that that's changed, though. Thank you again for making these available!Ordered a set of each -- expect you'll see a bit of pushback on that shipping, though -- $10.00 is a little stiff for shipping a few keycaps. Good luck with the sale!
Thank you! I saw that about the shipping, and I apparently missed the shipping field. I thought it was going to fill the shipping based on actual location. It looks like yours will just be a couple bucks, and I will refund you the difference when I make sure I did it right.
Post by: potatowire on Sun, 15 November 2015, 20:26:59
Sweet! No need to refund the difference on mine since I did buy seeing the shipping as it was. I expect you'll sell out fast now that that's changed, though. Thank you again for making these available!Ordered a set of each -- expect you'll see a bit of pushback on that shipping, though -- $10.00 is a little stiff for shipping a few keycaps. Good luck with the sale!
Thank you! I saw that about the shipping, and I apparently missed the shipping field. I thought it was going to fill the shipping based on actual location. It looks like yours will just be a couple bucks, and I will refund you the difference when I make sure I did it right.
Thank you for being very understanding!
Post by: potatowire on Mon, 16 November 2015, 08:45:05
Post by: RoastPotatoes on Mon, 16 November 2015, 12:17:45
I'm looking for some vim advice. I learnt to touch type at the same time I learnt to use vim. The issue is that I learnt to touch type in colemak so I have become semi-proficient in vim but in colemak. For me my HJKL position is a little unorthodox. I know there are addons that map qwerty to colemak vim positions but this is slightly redundant for me as I never really learnt vim with those positions. But on the other hand there are benefits to using the qwerty positions. HJKL for example is very accessible in qwerty, arguably more than colemak.
Is anyone else in a similar situation. I might still buy these as I do like the look of some nice legends.
Post by: potatowire on Mon, 16 November 2015, 17:21:48
These are really nice but I'm not sure whether I will ever have MX with caps in these profile. I was however looking for these before I went Topre.I'm not sure there's a easy answer for Vim and Colemak, but I think Aimee makes a good argument (https://sermoa.wordpress.com/2011/12/16/colemak-and-vim-but-what-about-hjkl/) for going with the flow and using HJKL in their normal Colemak positions. It doesn't do much for the aesthetics if you used these keys, so I guess I am doing the opposite of making a good sell...
I'm looking for some vim advice. I learnt to touch type at the same time I learnt to use vim. The issue is that I learnt to touch type in colemak so I have become semi-proficient in vim but in colemak. For me my HJKL position is a little unorthodox. I know there are addons that map qwerty to colemak vim positions but this is slightly redundant for me as I never really learnt vim with those positions. But on the other hand there are benefits to using the qwerty positions. HJKL for example is very accessible in qwerty, arguably more than colemak.
Is anyone else in a similar situation. I might still buy these as I do like the look of some nice legends.
Post by: jmeekhof on Mon, 16 November 2015, 19:48:29
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 17 November 2015, 03:26:32
I just order the full set (capslock x2) and the hjkl as a Dvorak vim user. Although some of the aesthetic is ruined, the concept is still good. I know I'll always have the caps lock replacement on my keyboard. The direction keys will probably rotate through.
Welcome to Geekhack!
Are you a Vim user?
Post by: potatowire on Wed, 18 November 2015, 21:49:12
Post by: jmeekhof on Thu, 19 November 2015, 19:07:16
Yes<esc>
:x
I just order the full set (capslock x2) and the hjkl as a Dvorak vim user. Although some of the aesthetic is ruined, the concept is still good. I know I'll always have the caps lock replacement on my keyboard. The direction keys will probably rotate through.
Welcome to Geekhack!
Are you a Vim user?
Post by: shawn24 on Sat, 21 November 2015, 21:18:07
Post by: potatowire on Sat, 21 November 2015, 21:36:07
mx only? I want it on my hhkb ..
I'm open to it, if the ones I have sell, and I can figure out who could make Topre keys...
Post by: Steezus on Sun, 22 November 2015, 11:18:42
mx only? I want it on my hhkb ..
I'm open to it, if the ones I have sell, and I can figure out who could make Topre keys...
Woudn't just getting sliders be the better option?
I'm going to put my order in eventually, been spending way too much money lately. :p
Post by: potatowire on Sun, 22 November 2015, 13:18:13
I definitely like that option, but that may just be because it's easier for me...mx only? I want it on my hhkb ..
I'm open to it, if the ones I have sell, and I can figure out who could make Topre keys...
Woudn't just getting sliders be the better option?
I'm going to put my order in eventually, been spending way too much money lately.
Post by: Steezus on Sun, 22 November 2015, 13:31:38
I definitely like that option, but that may just be because it's easier for me...mx only? I want it on my hhkb ..
I'm open to it, if the ones I have sell, and I can figure out who could make Topre keys...
Woudn't just getting sliders be the better option?
I'm going to put my order in eventually, been spending way too much money lately.
I think it would be too costly and time consuming to made a topre version, ctrlalt should be having sliders going up on their store soon anyways.
Post by: potatowire on Sun, 22 November 2015, 20:07:41
I definitely like that option, but that may just be because it's easier for me...mx only? I want it on my hhkb ..
I'm open to it, if the ones I have sell, and I can figure out who could make Topre keys...
Woudn't just getting sliders be the better option?
I'm going to put my order in eventually, been spending way too much money lately.
I think it would be too costly and time consuming to made a topre version, ctrlalt should be having sliders going up on their store soon anyways.
That would be a decent compromise for anyone who wants to switch their Topre board over to a DSA or SA set. I would love to have an option for someone who just wants to replace five keys, but I think you're probably right, it would be too costly and time consuming to create Topre versions.
Post by: potatowire on Mon, 23 November 2015, 13:02:35
Post by: potatowire on Thu, 26 November 2015, 15:05:57
In other words, does a board with blanks have to be all blank to look good?
Post by: trenzafeeds on Thu, 26 November 2015, 20:31:55
In other words, does a board with blanks have to be all blank to look good?
Personally I think so, yes, but others might feel differently.
Post by: potatowire on Thu, 26 November 2015, 21:48:17
In other words, does a board with blanks have to be all blank to look good?
Personally I think so, yes, but others might feel differently.
That's my instinct, too. Hopefully some other folks will weigh in with their opinions.
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 27 November 2015, 03:18:08
In other words, does a board with blanks have to be all blank to look good?
Not necessarily. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49563.msg1947825#msg1947825)
Post by: potatowire on Fri, 27 November 2015, 06:15:30
In other words, does a board with blanks have to be all blank to look good?
Not necessarily. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49563.msg1947825#msg1947825)
That does look good...
Post by: trenzafeeds on Sat, 28 November 2015, 17:55:58
In other words, does a board with blanks have to be all blank to look good?
Not necessarily. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49563.msg1947825#msg1947825)
That does look good...
Agreed, can't argue with that.
Post by: potatowire on Thu, 24 December 2015, 07:57:01
(http://i.imgur.com/gr0FYo8.jpg)
I'm really hoping to sell the rest of my extras, so tell your friends!
vimcaps.com (http://vimcaps.com)
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Wed, 30 December 2015, 12:59:09
My newest board.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gr0FYo8.jpg)
I'm really hoping to sell the rest of my extras, so tell your friends!
vimcaps.com (http://vimcaps.com)
Just picked up a set of each. :thumb:
Post by: potatowire on Wed, 30 December 2015, 19:24:16
Post by: Liocer on Thu, 07 January 2016, 01:58:41
Post by: potatowire on Wed, 27 January 2016, 08:26:24
Ordered :DHey Liocer, apparently I somehow missed this, sorry! By now though, you should have your caps, and I hope you like them.
Post by: Liocer on Thu, 28 January 2016, 03:38:05
Ordered :DHey Liocer, apparently I somehow missed this, sorry! By now though, you should have your caps, and I hope you like them.
Yep got them here in the uk. You've already seen pics of them on my Planck :)
Post by: potatowire on Thu, 28 January 2016, 09:13:00
Ordered :DHey Liocer, apparently I somehow missed this, sorry! By now though, you should have your caps, and I hope you like them.
Yep got them here in the uk. You've already seen pics of them on my Planck :)
I'm a dummy and can't be trusted with multiple threads, obviously.
Such a great Planck, too...
Post by: frarees on Thu, 18 February 2016, 12:25:56
I'd like to see them in a SA Retro kit, so it's time to search for it.. ;D
Post by: potatowire on Thu, 18 February 2016, 16:27:22
Placed my order! Both DSA and SA kits. Full support :thumb:
I'd like to see them in a SA Retro kit, so it's time to search for it.. ;D
Here are a couple of pics of mine:
(https://i.imgur.com/qzc0KMn.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/42KhBUV.jpg)
Thank you for the order!
Post by: tedk on Tue, 21 June 2016, 11:24:36
when i asked you why shipping to germany is $15, you answered "its what usps charges me".
you guys maybe guess what my face was like when i saw the envelope... im not accusing you of anything (i dont know the details), but this is ****... somewhere in the line....
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-.-
Post by: potatowire on Tue, 21 June 2016, 14:26:46
hey potatowire... my package arrived today, everythings fine...BUT...
when i asked you why shipping to germany is $15, you answered "its what usps charges me".
you guys maybe guess what my face was like when i saw the envelope... im not accusing you of anything (i dont know the details), but this is ****... somewhere in the line....
(Attachment Link)
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I'm not expecting you to have followed my website changes and cash flow travails (mostly took place on Reddit (http://"https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/4ntkyb/buying_the_relaunch_of_vimcapscom/"), since that was where 95% of my orders originated), but my store used to have Shopify as a backend. When it did, shipping to Germany cost $13-something to which I added $1.50 for shipping materials and "handling."
Since I moved to PayPal as a backend, shipping is cheaper, allowing me to do "free shipping" for US and international orders, but I made the change at the same time as I made a general price hike. Selling Vim keycaps is not a good business, and I didn't really expect it to be.
I'm sorry you feel cheated. Send me back the keycaps and I will refund you the full purchase price.
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 21 June 2016, 17:03:07
Post by: tedk on Thu, 23 June 2016, 12:11:27
fyi - i come home, see the KB and smile ...
hey potatowire... my package arrived today, everythings fine...BUT...
when i asked you why shipping to germany is $15, you answered "its what usps charges me".
you guys maybe guess what my face was like when i saw the envelope... im not accusing you of anything (i dont know the details), but this is ****... somewhere in the line....
(Attachment Link)
-.-
I'm not expecting you to have followed my website changes and cash flow travails (mostly took place on Reddit (http://"https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/4ntkyb/buying_the_relaunch_of_vimcapscom/"), since that was where 95% of my orders originated), but my store used to have Shopify as a backend. When it did, shipping to Germany cost $13-something to which I added $1.50 for shipping materials and "handling."
Since I moved to PayPal as a backend, shipping is cheaper, allowing me to do "free shipping" for US and international orders, but I made the change at the same time as I made a general price hike. Selling Vim keycaps is not a good business, and I didn't really expect it to be.
I'm sorry you feel cheated. Send me back the keycaps and I will refund you the full purchase price.
Post by: potatowire on Thu, 23 June 2016, 17:21:52
Those DSA ones look great. I will definitely pick them up even if I am not using VIM :)
Thank you for your support, LeandreN. I really appreciate it.
Post by: gnmar2723 on Mon, 14 November 2016, 18:46:22
Are there any plans to restock or do another profile? I'd like to see them in my beloved DCS profile :p