Geekhack for the most part seems pretty sane and calm and collected when talking about serious issues.
Murica turns upside down a country that was well working.
Europe take the consequences.
I'm totally up to take them in there. Just find it interesting that they move to the higher social assisted countries (germany, Sweden) when they are way harder to go to (especially sweden).
Eastern europe isn't good enough for them, I guess.
The really odd thing for me is a considerable amount of people around me think that taking in a measly 100,000 people is a death threat waiting to happen or something. and that is measly compared to the numbers other countries have taken in, with turkey taking in millions....For a country like US 100k is nothing. For a country like Romania even 10k is a huge effort, we took around 6k. Germany took a lot of them, but the big problem they don't have decent laws and regulations for this kind of things and now they are swamped, I've read that the precessing rate is 20 a day :eek:
I'm tired of being spammed on facebook at how the majority of the people are male and are a terrorist army; and it appears those statistics are quite off, according to the UN
The really odd thing for me is a considerable amount of people around me think that taking in a measly 100,000 people is a death threat waiting to happen or something. and that is measly compared to the numbers other countries have taken in, with turkey taking in millions....
I'm tired of being spammed on facebook at how the majority of the people are male and are a terrorist army; and it appears those statistics are quite off, according to the UN
I thinks it's just some of my quite politically far right family who thinks universal health care is communism and that all muslims are terrorists or commit honour killings. :-[The really odd thing for me is a considerable amount of people around me think that taking in a measly 100,000 people is a death threat waiting to happen or something. and that is measly compared to the numbers other countries have taken in, with turkey taking in millions....
I'm tired of being spammed on facebook at how the majority of the people are male and are a terrorist army; and it appears those statistics are quite off, according to the UN
yikes you must not be in bellingham/seattle/oly then. the rest of washington is a mean place :(
Don't mind rather have them here in the UK, providing they contribute to the economy which most do than getting needlessly killed.In order to contribute you need to integrate them, learn the language, provide education for the children, it's not that easy. If these people are not integrated they will become a social burden and a huge problem. I know what I'm talking about, in Romania we have this with a specific ethnic minority (I'm trying to be political ****ing correct ).
I thinks it's just some of my quite politically far right family who thinks universal health care is communism and that all muslims are terrorists or commit honour killings. :-[The really odd thing for me is a considerable amount of people around me think that taking in a measly 100,000 people is a death threat waiting to happen or something. and that is measly compared to the numbers other countries have taken in, with turkey taking in millions....
I'm tired of being spammed on facebook at how the majority of the people are male and are a terrorist army; and it appears those statistics are quite off, according to the UN
yikes you must not be in bellingham/seattle/oly then. the rest of washington is a mean place :(
I'm totally up to take them in there. Just find it interesting that they move to the higher social assisted countries (germany, Sweden) when they are way harder to go to (especially sweden).I think that it is not so much a question of social security system but about who would take them in with open arms. Sweden and Germany are the most friendly countries - and the refugees hear about that.
Eastern europe isn't good enough for them, I guess.
In order to contribute you need to integrate them, learn the language, provide education for the children, it's not that easy. If these people are not integrated they will become a social burden and a huge problem. I know what I'm talking about, in Romania we have this with a specific ethnic minority (I'm trying to be political ****ing correct ).Yeah, there are people from a Romanian ethnic minority sitting begging outside every ****ing supermarket over here. The Romanian government was notified about this problem over a year ago but has shown no ambition to take care of its own indigenous population. If they had seen opportunity closer to home then they would not have come here.
You can type "gypsies" or "Roma" instead of "Romanian ethnic minority". It will save space in geekhack's database along with some kittens.
You guys have created some hope for me, if I was only exposed to youtube comments and news article comments, I would be convinced that europe is quite xenophobic and that all the refugees where terrorists. :))In the UK we are but we hate the other country's in the UK for example a lot of people around me (not myself mind you) strongly dislike the Scottish currently
You guys have created some hope for me, if I was only exposed to youtube comments and news article comments, I would be convinced that europe is quite xenophobic and that all the refugees where terrorists. :))In the UK we are but we hate the other country's in the UK for example a lot of people around me (not myself mind you) strongly dislike the Scottish currently
Or you can just be like everyone here and rip into photek but I like him :p
Also apparently David Cameron says Yorkshire men hate each other new to me since everyone from where I am calls everyone love and is quite friendly, like get this if you ask someone a question at a bus stop they will actually give you the time of day O.O to respond and help
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people
Roma it's unknown to me too, Romani is the official name, gipsy( or țigani) is seen as a bad word and not officialy accepted. Anyway this doesn't matter, the point is the same, whenever there is a huge cultural gap the integration is a very complicated process and both sides have to want this.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people
I understood what iri was chatting about but have never seen it shorted to Roma (which is the capital of Italy)
... Real inclusiveness, real respect comes when you hold people to the same standards as you would expect from your own citizens (not just rights but also responsibility).
Well, my take is that we need to accept those who really are fleeing war, fleeing persecution. As well as those who have no place to go.Are you European?
We probably should accept economic immigrants as well — but they should receive admission and guidance only, not any sort of privileged treatment, treating them better than the local poor are treated. Unfortunately, in their progressive/politically correct mindset many governments (including local gov'ts) are falling in this trap.
Whom we shouldn't accept are violent folks, those who help themselves with the pretty girls they see, or those who can't help rioting and throwing stones at the police, or those who attack religious Christian folks for wearing a crucifix, or those of the Muslim religion who bully their Christian co-refugees. There should be no place for such people in Europe.
What is really unfortunate is that in some countries the authorities are too lenient on the violent ones, including very low sentences for rape, like community service kind of range of punishment for that horrific crime, just because dude's a refugee from a Muslim country in the Levant. I've been to those countries, met the people, enjoyed it there, and it would be a racist statement to claim that being born there somehow conditions one into being a rapist. This is the kind of racism that those politically correct people don't even realize they are practicing. Real inclusiveness, real respect comes when you hold people to the same standards as you would expect from your own citizens (not just rights but also responsibility).
You can type "gypsies" or "Roma" instead of "Romanian ethnic minority". It will save space in geekhack's database along with some kittens.The Romani I was referring to are specifically from Romania: born and raised there by Romanian Romani, with houses and family in Romania.
Well, my take is that we need to accept those who really are fleeing war, fleeing persecution. As well as those who have no place to go.Are you European?
We probably should accept economic immigrants as well — but they should receive admission and guidance only, not any sort of privileged treatment, treating them better than the local poor are treated. Unfortunately, in their progressive/politically correct mindset many governments (including local gov'ts) are falling in this trap.
Whom we shouldn't accept are violent folks, those who help themselves with the pretty girls they see, or those who can't help rioting and throwing stones at the police, or those who attack religious Christian folks for wearing a crucifix, or those of the Muslim religion who bully their Christian co-refugees. There should be no place for such people in Europe.
What is really unfortunate is that in some countries the authorities are too lenient on the violent ones, including very low sentences for rape, like community service kind of range of punishment for that horrific crime, just because dude's a refugee from a Muslim country in the Levant. I've been to those countries, met the people, enjoyed it there, and it would be a racist statement to claim that being born there somehow conditions one into being a rapist. This is the kind of racism that those politically correct people don't even realize they are practicing. Real inclusiveness, real respect comes when you hold people to the same standards as you would expect from your own citizens (not just rights but also responsibility).
(http://media.giphy.com/media/j9N2E1Ci8jPr2/giphy.gif)Well, my take is that we need to accept those who really are fleeing war, fleeing persecution. As well as those who have no place to go.Are you European?
We probably should accept economic immigrants as well — but they should receive admission and guidance only, not any sort of privileged treatment, treating them better than the local poor are treated. Unfortunately, in their progressive/politically correct mindset many governments (including local gov'ts) are falling in this trap.
Whom we shouldn't accept are violent folks, those who help themselves with the pretty girls they see, or those who can't help rioting and throwing stones at the police, or those who attack religious Christian folks for wearing a crucifix, or those of the Muslim religion who bully their Christian co-refugees. There should be no place for such people in Europe.
What is really unfortunate is that in some countries the authorities are too lenient on the violent ones, including very low sentences for rape, like community service kind of range of punishment for that horrific crime, just because dude's a refugee from a Muslim country in the Levant. I've been to those countries, met the people, enjoyed it there, and it would be a racist statement to claim that being born there somehow conditions one into being a rapist. This is the kind of racism that those politically correct people don't even realize they are practicing. Real inclusiveness, real respect comes when you hold people to the same standards as you would expect from your own citizens (not just rights but also responsibility).
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@PhotekqAre you referring to the USA or Saudi Arabia? In either case - beggars can't be choosers.
Why the **** would you want people seeking help and asylum going to literally one of the most actively evil places on the planet?!
@PhotekqAre you referring to the USA or Saudi Arabia? In either case - beggars can't be choosers.
Why the **** would you want people seeking help and asylum going to literally one of the most actively evil places on the planet?!
Clueless is as clueless does I guessI don't understand what you're trying to say.
Clueless is as clueless does I guessI don't understand what you're trying to say.
EvidentlyIf you were a bit more specific it would avoid my being confused. Are you calling me clueless because I assumed "one of the most actively evil places on the planet" to be either the USA or Saudi Arabia? Or are you calling me clueless because I said "beggars can't be choosers"?
EvidentlyIf you were a bit more specific it would avoid my being confused. Are you calling me clueless because I assumed "one of the most actively evil places on the planet" to be either the USA or Saudi Arabia? Or are you calling me clueless because I said "beggars can't be choosers"?
I'm calling you clueless because you clearly have no ****ing idea what your talking about if you think that SA and the USA are even remotely comparable places for people seeking asylum.I never said they were comparable places for those people. Again, I think that beggars can't be choosers. Why would someone turn their nose up at the USA (or some of the eastern EU members for that matter)when they're currently trying to flee a country that is war-torn? Ok, SA I can understand, but it's not as if they're offering to take people in anyway.
I'm sorry I find it difficult not to confuse dumb ****s who just chat **** in some deranged effort to try and be edgy, when they clearly have no ****ing clue what they are talking about.No, it's just that you clearly find it difficult to construct sentences and responses that are clear. Is that your dyslexia or do you just find it laborious? As I said, you weren't specific enough. I'm "chatting" what I see to be the truth. If you see what I'm chatting to be **** then you could at least attempt to refute it instead of just calling me a "dumb ****" and giving vague responses.
But then what would I expect from a child who wanted to vote for UKIP?Eh, as I think I've said I have changed my views on UKIP. I don't agree with a lot of their policies and my views don't really align perfectly with any of their policies aside from their wanting to leave the EU. I don't really think they're much better than any of the other parties and if I did vote for them it would only be protest. Who did you vote for out of curiosity?
Sorry Photekq I came to a realisation half way though my reply to you that explaining to you, how clueless and brain dead you are, is wasted energy.Ok. Thank you. If you don't want to argue that's fair enough, but there's no need to resort to personal attack. That's just childish.
Sorry Photekq I came to a realisation half way though my reply to you that explaining to you, how clueless and brain dead you are, is wasted energy.
Sorry Photekq I came to a realisation half way though my reply to you that explaining to you, how clueless and brain dead you are, is wasted energy.
Kinda rude when this thread encouraged people's opinions and photekq gave his. His opinion is worth as much as anyone else's. Why not have a proper discussion about it, rather than resulting to name calling?
Which is what rustles me the mostAgain, if you don't want to argue that's fine, but don't go making these vague snarky comments. They don't mean anything unless you back them up with reasons/proof that what I'm saying is false.
Which is what rustles me the mostAgain, if you don't want to argue that's fine, but don't go making these vague snarky comments. They don't mean anything unless you back them up with reasons/proof that what I'm saying is false.
If you read current affairs or had any clue about the world outside your narrow little world you might have some idea as to why I'm not going to the effort to argue against your nonsense.I do read current affairs. I try to get a broad view of the world by observing as many sources from different parts of the world as I can, although I typically stay away from popular western media due to the degree to which it is biased, especially against Assad, Putin and anti-immigration.
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If you read current affairs or had any clue about the world outside your narrow little world you might have some idea as to why I'm not going to the effort to argue against your nonsense.I do read current affairs. I try to get a broad view of the world by observing as many sources from different parts of the world as I can, although I typically stay away from popular western media due to the degree to which it is biased, especially against Assad, Putin and anti-immigration.
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When it comes to vast issues like this it's incredibly hard to find truths. There is bias and propaganda from all sides. All we can do is observe sources, evaluate the credibility of those sources and then take from them what we see fit. This is what I've done.
Perhaps your thinking that what I'm saying is baseless nonsense says something about the lack of diversity in the sources which you observe. I assure you that nothing I've said is the product of my own imagination.
You think asylum seekers should go to Saudi Arabia. You're a ****ing moron lmaoI never said that. I said that Saudi Arabia should OFFER to take in refugees, since they're one of the two main reasons there is a war in Syria. But of course I know this will never happen..
I'm calling you clueless because you clearly have no ****ing idea what your talking about if you think that SA and the USA are even remotely comparable places for people seeking asylum.I never said they were comparable places for those people. Again, I think that beggars can't be choosers. Why would someone turn their nose up at the USA (or some of the eastern EU members for that matter)when they're currently trying to flee a country that is war-torn? Ok, SA I can understand, but it's not as if they're offering to take people in anyway.
Y u ruin da party? Learn2 forum better.If you read current affairs or had any clue about the world outside your narrow little world you might have some idea as to why I'm not going to the effort to argue against your nonsense.I do read current affairs. I try to get a broad view of the world by observing as many sources from different parts of the world as I can, although I typically stay away from popular western media due to the degree to which it is biased, especially against Assad, Putin and anti-immigration.
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When it comes to vast issues like this it's incredibly hard to find truths. There is bias and propaganda from all sides. All we can do is observe sources, evaluate the credibility of those sources and then take from them what we see fit. This is what I've done.
Perhaps your thinking that what I'm saying is baseless nonsense says something about the lack of diversity in the sources which you observe. I assure you that nothing I've said is the product of my own imagination.
You think asylum seekers should go to Saudi Arabia. Your a ****ing moron lmao
Yeah I guess I shouldn't call people out when they say dumb things as everyone is entitled to an opinion and everyone's opinion is as valuable as everyone else's. It's the beautiful world we live in. But I shouldn't be rude about it, oh no, it's not nice to be rude... Lmao
Yeah I guess I shouldn't call people out when they say dumb thingsYou should also properly read what people say and avoid being slanderous.
I swear this stems from baldguy being jelly of photeks avatarAs he should be. He probably thinks he was a nasty racist who chatted a lot of **** though.
If you read current affairs or had any clue about the world outside your narrow little world you might have some idea as to why I'm not going to the effort to argue against your nonsense.I do read current affairs. I try to get a broad view of the world by observing as many sources from different parts of the world as I can, although I typically stay away from popular western media due to the degree to which it is biased, especially against Assad, Putin and anti-immigration.
:)
When it comes to vast issues like this it's incredibly hard to find truths. There is bias and propaganda from all sides. All we can do is observe sources, evaluate the credibility of those sources and then take from them what we see fit. This is what I've done.
Perhaps your thinking that what I'm saying is baseless nonsense says something about the lack of diversity in the sources which you observe. I assure you that nothing I've said is the product of my own imagination.
You think asylum seekers should go to Saudi Arabia. Your a ****ing moron lmao
Yeah I guess I shouldn't call people out when they say dumb things as everyone is entitled to an opinion and everyone's opinion is as valuable as everyone else's. It's the beautiful world we live in. But I shouldn't be rude about it, oh no, it's not nice to be rude... Lmao
For being a European?Well, my take is that we need to accept those who really are fleeing war, fleeing persecution. As well as those who have no place to go.Are you European?
We probably should accept economic immigrants as well — but they should receive admission and guidance only, not any sort of privileged treatment, treating them better than the local poor are treated. Unfortunately, in their progressive/politically correct mindset many governments (including local gov'ts) are falling in this trap.
Whom we shouldn't accept are violent folks, those who help themselves with the pretty girls they see, or those who can't help rioting and throwing stones at the police, or those who attack religious Christian folks for wearing a crucifix, or those of the Muslim religion who bully their Christian co-refugees. There should be no place for such people in Europe.
What is really unfortunate is that in some countries the authorities are too lenient on the violent ones, including very low sentences for rape, like community service kind of range of punishment for that horrific crime, just because dude's a refugee from a Muslim country in the Levant. I've been to those countries, met the people, enjoyed it there, and it would be a racist statement to claim that being born there somehow conditions one into being a rapist. This is the kind of racism that those politically correct people don't even realize they are practicing. Real inclusiveness, real respect comes when you hold people to the same standards as you would expect from your own citizens (not just rights but also responsibility).
are you?Show Image(http://media.giphy.com/media/j9N2E1Ci8jPr2/giphy.gif)
<3 you iri
I took it as a joke about you being born in russia/being russian, as russia is not part of the European union. :pFor being a European?Well, my take is that we need to accept those who really are fleeing war, fleeing persecution. As well as those who have no place to go.Are you European?
We probably should accept economic immigrants as well — but they should receive admission and guidance only, not any sort of privileged treatment, treating them better than the local poor are treated. Unfortunately, in their progressive/politically correct mindset many governments (including local gov'ts) are falling in this trap.
Whom we shouldn't accept are violent folks, those who help themselves with the pretty girls they see, or those who can't help rioting and throwing stones at the police, or those who attack religious Christian folks for wearing a crucifix, or those of the Muslim religion who bully their Christian co-refugees. There should be no place for such people in Europe.
What is really unfortunate is that in some countries the authorities are too lenient on the violent ones, including very low sentences for rape, like community service kind of range of punishment for that horrific crime, just because dude's a refugee from a Muslim country in the Levant. I've been to those countries, met the people, enjoyed it there, and it would be a racist statement to claim that being born there somehow conditions one into being a rapist. This is the kind of racism that those politically correct people don't even realize they are practicing. Real inclusiveness, real respect comes when you hold people to the same standards as you would expect from your own citizens (not just rights but also responsibility).
are you?
<3 you iri
well this ****s only the tip of the iceberg most of the refugees are men right? most of those men have families back in wherever. if one's granted asylum doesn't it apply to the whole family too?
yeah, but how many of them are actually syrians?
lol, found this one while searching for the UNHCR reportwe r de best, u just ned mor fredomShow Image(https://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/Asprvhq1QiX35D6l71gIuZ0baDc=/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/1399968/36SyrianRefugees.0.jpg)
celebrities are even housing lone children etc :)