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Title: Grass fed Beef/Lamb sucks (just an opinion!)
Post by: dante on Sat, 10 October 2015, 22:07:11
I've tried grassfed beef and lamb from several sources and it all sucks.  There is enough fat but it just isn't as tasty as the grainfed variety.

FEED YOUR ANIMALS GRAINS PEOPLE!
Title: Re: Grass fed Beef/Lamb sucks (just an opinion!)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 10 October 2015, 22:29:00
I think a lot of it depends on the shop doing the preparing of the meat.
Title: Re: Grass fed Beef/Lamb sucks (just an opinion!)
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 10 October 2015, 22:29:42
I think a lot of it depends on the shop doing the preparing of the meat.

very much this

a well done steak still tastes like **** no matter where you get it
Title: Re: Grass fed Beef/Lamb sucks (just an opinion!)
Post by: kurplop on Sat, 10 October 2015, 22:41:36
Many preferences are acquired. I remember the first time I ate eggs from our own chickens, they tasted really strong and the yokes seemed dark yellow, almost orange. After a while when I would get commercial eggs they would seem bland and watered down.

Maybe it just take time to get use to the new taste.
Title: Re: Grass fed Beef/Lamb sucks (just an opinion!)
Post by: dante on Sat, 10 October 2015, 23:28:43
I'm going to check out a Farm/CSA and grab a package of theirs.  If it is as bad I'll stick with grainfed and save $5 per pound.
Title: Re: Grass fed Beef/Lamb sucks (just an opinion!)
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 10 October 2015, 23:34:55
a well done steak still tastes like **** no matter where you get it

I cringe when anyone orders a steak more done than medium-rare. I mean rare is the only way to go, but med-rare is acceptable
Title: Re: Grass fed Beef/Lamb sucks (just an opinion!)
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 11 October 2015, 06:03:30
Many preferences are acquired. I remember the first time I ate eggs from our own chickens, they tasted really strong and the yokes seemed dark yellow, almost orange. After a while when I would get commercial eggs they would seem bland and watered down.

Maybe it just take time to get use to the new taste.

It's not that they're bland or watered down..   It's that the farm fresh eggs poo all over it,  so some of the poo kinda gets in the food from when you handle the shell and cook it..

Commercial eggs are super clean, therefore, the taste is far more neutral.
Title: Re: Grass fed Beef/Lamb sucks (just an opinion!)
Post by: kurplop on Sun, 11 October 2015, 07:38:09


I hate to debunk your normally profound logic but, in the case of my chickens at least, they rarely went on their eggs. In fact, that's about the only place they wouldn't go.

I attribute the difference in taste to their lay mash diet being supplemented with bugs, snails, and just about anything else they could forage around the yard. A commercial layer also is required to produce on a more frequent cycle which probably contributes to the end product being less potent.
Title: Re: Grass fed Beef/Lamb sucks (just an opinion!)
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 11 October 2015, 07:57:17


I hate to debunk your normally profound logic but, in the case of my chickens at least, they rarely went on their eggs. In fact, that's about the only place they wouldn't go.

I attribute the difference in taste to their lay mash diet being supplemented with bugs, snails, and just about anything else they could forage around the yard. A commercial layer also is required to produce on a more frequent cycle which probably contributes to the end product being less potent.


You mean "Less POLLUTED"
Title: Re: Grass fed Beef/Lamb sucks (just an opinion!)
Post by: Jokrik on Sun, 11 October 2015, 08:22:09
And dry aged, it's the way to go
Title: Re: Grass fed Beef/Lamb sucks (just an opinion!)
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 11 October 2015, 08:54:25
We eat salmon fairly often, and my wife only likes the farm-raised type. I get excited for the mid-summer glut of fresh wild salmon, but she turns up her nose and says that it is too "dry and fishy" for her. The real problem is that she is subconsciously training the kids to share her opinion.

Title: Re: Grass fed Beef/Lamb sucks (just an opinion!)
Post by: exitfire401 on Sun, 11 October 2015, 09:18:34
Grassfed beef is amazing! I do agree with you on the lamb though...not sure what it is, but something seems off about the grassfed variety tastewise.
Title: Re: Grass fed Beef/Lamb sucks (just an opinion!)
Post by: taylordcraig on Sun, 11 October 2015, 11:17:25
We eat salmon fairly often, and my wife only likes the farm-raised type. I get excited for the mid-summer glut of fresh wild salmon, but she turns up her nose and says that it is too "dry and fishy" for her. The real problem is that she is subconsciously training the kids to share her opinion.

And that her opinion is wrong. D: Fresh wild salmon is amazing, farmed stuff just isn't the same, and almost ALWAYS has additives.
Title: Re: Grass fed Beef/Lamb sucks (just an opinion!)
Post by: dante on Sun, 11 October 2015, 11:23:18
I haven't gotten into Salmon (or other seafood) like I thought I would.  The quality stuff in my area runs $20.99-$24.99 per pound so it makes grass fed meat look cheap.

Ultimately for my budget (F**K Y*U keyboards) I'll try to eventually source pastured chicken and then take a DHA/EPA supplement - which all comes from sea vegetation anyway.
Title: Re: Grass fed Beef/Lamb sucks (just an opinion!)
Post by: Findecanor on Sun, 11 October 2015, 14:15:55
FEED YOUR ANIMALS GRAINS PEOPLE!
Wrong! They should be fed beer! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/cornwall/6345289.stm)
They don't live long lives so let them least enjoy it, and yield tastier meat in the process.

Or... Don't eat meat at all. Go vegetarian, like me.
Anyway, if we are going to save the climate then the human population at large need to eat less beef and lamb (those two farm animals produce the most carbon). If that is to happen then prices need to go up, and if prices go up then the product better need to be of higher quality.
So, I'm therefore an advocate of beef and lamb being only super-high quality. Farms that produce low-quality beef and lamb should not be permitted to exist.
Title: Re: Grass fed Beef/Lamb sucks (just an opinion!)
Post by: dante on Sun, 11 October 2015, 15:12:21
FEED YOUR ANIMALS GRAINS PEOPLE!
Wrong! They should be fed beer! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/cornwall/6345289.stm)
They don't live long lives so let them least enjoy it, and yield tastier meat in the process.

Actually - beer fed sounds pretty damn good!  Hopefully it takes off!

Or... Don't eat meat at all. Go vegetarian, like me.
Anyway, if we are going to save the climate then the human population at large need to eat less beef and lamb (those two farm animals produce the most carbon). If that is to happen then prices need to go up, and if prices go up then the product better need to be of higher quality.
So, I'm therefore an advocate of beef and lamb being only super-high quality. Farms that produce low-quality beef and lamb should not be permitted to exist.

If you know how to do a near zero carb diet without eating animals - I'm all ears.
Title: Re: Grass fed Beef/Lamb sucks (just an opinion!)
Post by: tbc on Sun, 11 October 2015, 17:15:02
a well done steak still tastes like **** no matter where you get it

I cringe when anyone orders a steak more done than medium-rare. I mean rare is the only way to go, but med-rare is acceptable

black and blue or die trying
Title: Re: Grass fed Beef/Lamb sucks (just an opinion!)
Post by: tbc on Sun, 11 October 2015, 17:16:40

So, I'm therefore an advocate of beef and lamb being only super-high quality. Farms that produce low-quality beef and lamb should not be permitted to exist.

:). that like brought a tear to me eye

only HQ beef :) i could get on board with that

Title: Re: Grass fed Beef/Lamb sucks (just an opinion!)
Post by: tararais on Sun, 11 October 2015, 17:22:33
I've had some lovely grass fed NZ lamb roast, was incredible. However, you change the flavor with a burger so much that you probably could barely tell the difference between steak and chuck, so I won't talk about beef.
Title: Re: Grass fed Beef/Lamb sucks (just an opinion!)
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 11 October 2015, 17:36:33
I cringe when anyone orders a steak more done than medium-rare.

I am not squeamish about food, but with the exception of sushi (I know, it is really sashimi), I do prefer meat to be warm all the way through.

Medium-rare (my definition) is exactly what I prefer (especially anything except beef), but much of the time , when you order meat "medium-rare" in a restaurant, you get meat that is still cold in the middle. Cold in the middle = rare (my definition).

Please make it at least warm in the center. To me, that usually means ordering "medium" and taking your chances.

Otherwise, cook it very slowly and make it tender, barbeque-style.
Title: Re: Grass fed Beef/Lamb sucks (just an opinion!)
Post by: Lanx on Mon, 12 October 2015, 01:56:14
learn to sous vide and your cheapest cuts of steak will taste great.
Title: Re: Grass fed Beef/Lamb sucks (just an opinion!)
Post by: Nai_Calus on Mon, 12 October 2015, 03:50:49
Beef is gross. Boneless skinless chicken breast in the oven or GTFO, but most people do it wrong and end up with this dry tasteless rubbery crap. Stop with that 350 for 30-40 minutes crap, **** takes too long and gets gross.

- You should probably brine it but ain't nobody got time for that, plus salt. So screw the brining.
- Heat oven to 450. Shut up, just do it.
- If the chicken is too thick, pound it flatter. Nothing sucks more than a chicken breast that's half raw in the middle. Ew.
- Rub it all over with olive oil.
- Shake seasoning stuff on it and rub it around to get an even coat.
- Bake 15-18ish minutes.
- Let set 5-10 minutes depending on how long you can convince yourself to wait.
- Eat.