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Title: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 19 October 2015, 09:20:06
You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?

Mine would be a 60% 55g Realforce board (so plate mounted) with full progammability and a standard bottom row

What's yours?
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: Snowdog993 on Mon, 19 October 2015, 09:26:07
You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?

Mine would be a 60% 55g Realforce board (so plate mounted) with full progammability and a standard bottom row

What's yours?

I already did.  Took an old IBM terminal board and brought it back to life.  Well worthwhile.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45475.msg1894206#msg1894206
You have seen it in the other thread anyway.
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: Melvang on Mon, 19 October 2015, 09:53:01
Model F internals ergo dox.
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 19 October 2015, 09:57:29
Model F internals ergo dox.

That would be pretty badass
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: BrewCaps on Mon, 19 October 2015, 10:07:05
Novatouch 60!
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: 0100010 on Mon, 19 October 2015, 10:09:30
Model F internals ergo dox.

Or a Model F "M15".
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: Neo.X on Mon, 19 October 2015, 10:21:18
75%, standard ANSI layout, full programmable, Topre 55g, proper silenced and lubed Novatouch stem , decent metal case, what else? 
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: absyrd on Mon, 19 October 2015, 10:25:07
If my HHKB was alive, I'd do dirty things to it.
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: Evo_Spec on Mon, 19 October 2015, 10:28:08
If my HHKB was alive, I'd do dirty things to it.

I'm glad to see that i wasn't the only one to read the title like that.
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: tominabox1 on Mon, 19 October 2015, 10:41:06
My buddy keeps bugging me to build a split board that has a laser mouse in one of the halves so he could mouse around by moving the keyboard... :confused:

I won't be doing that.
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: scubaste on Mon, 19 October 2015, 10:43:36
Kishsaver so I can interrogate all that valuable bank info out of it. /sigh
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 19 October 2015, 10:45:38
65% ANSI Beamspring or Marquardt Butterfly. I suppose a more realistic answer is a 60% Hall Effect that works over USB.
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 19 October 2015, 10:55:31
65% with G80-500 vintages browns.

And ISO Viper, hopefully both will happen next year.
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: tararais on Mon, 19 October 2015, 12:42:04
The 60% Satan, obviously. I've already sold my soul to keyboards.
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: Niomosy on Mon, 19 October 2015, 20:43:37
MS Ergo 4000 with MX reds and beamspring style deep spherical caps in a Data General Dasher terminal color scheme.
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: njbair on Mon, 19 October 2015, 20:55:32
Really impressed with some of the answers so far.

Mine would be a keyboard full of discrete Model F-style BS switches. Then I could tear it apart and build whatever I want.
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: FoxWolf1 on Mon, 19 October 2015, 21:25:34
I'm kind of stubborn and would still stick with a full-size.

Only, give it optical switches. There aren't enough options with those at present IMO. A variant of the MX-style optical switches equipped with a ProWorld-style click leaf could be neat to try, I think.

An integrated pointing device would be welcome, especially if it's one of the kinds that's actually integrated for reals instead of just tacked onto the side. Like a trackpoint. Or a trackball that's integrated into the arrow key cluster, FK-7000P-style (only with the mouse buttons placed more sensibly). Heck, maybe even both; then the user could switch between them based on the situation, or even just to decrease repetitiveness of motion.

Oh, and a big-ass enter key. Much more satisfying than the other kinds, and if you're a text chat user, you don't wind up having half your lines end with \.
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: Hyde on Mon, 19 October 2015, 21:39:31
lol I'm gonna be the first one to hope for a full size.

Topre Realforce 104UW (ANSI) Silent 45g uniform + all blank white keycaps.  (They currently actually do have 108UW (JP Layout) Silent 45g in Japan, so this is not a too far fetched dream)

OR

Topre HiPro 45g with all uniform keycap.  (Think of the current HiPro like a full sculpt SA and the one I'm looking for as a uniform row 3 SA)

All the Cherry MX ones I dream of feels like it's already achievable with the right switch + keycap combination so I won't be mentioning them here.
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: SamirD on Mon, 19 October 2015, 21:54:56
I'd want a IBM Model M layout with Model F capacitance buckling springs please.
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: tararais on Tue, 20 October 2015, 10:27:24
Lightsaver/GON with silenced 45g Topre.. a man can dream  :D
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 21 October 2015, 05:00:01
"come to life" meaning that it is dead, or unusable, now?

My Model M 122 :)
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: chyros on Wed, 21 October 2015, 07:42:50
So this could be anything I wanted? It would be desk-sized and contain all kinds of weirdness xD . Probably with blue Alps of capacitive buckling springs :) .
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: Data on Wed, 21 October 2015, 08:54:02
A concept I've been working on, only semi-seriously.

(http://i.imgur.com/wRMMmYm.png)

I lack the skills to bring it together -- mainly PCB design and keymap programming are holding me back.  Maybe someday...  :P
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: jerue on Wed, 21 October 2015, 09:01:54
I'd probably vote for an aluminum IBM M15. Split, aluminum, buckling spring goodness. The board to end all boards, at least for me...
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: Dee1 on Wed, 21 October 2015, 09:04:43
1800 layout with Topre. :D
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: mobbo on Wed, 21 October 2015, 10:23:48
Beige/White 55g Realforce Hi-Pro in tenkeyless layout and an teak/aluminium case like this one:

 (http://www.keyboardco.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/pimpmyfilco_Lin2.jpg)
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: Evo_Spec on Thu, 22 October 2015, 21:48:22
Beige/White 55g Realforce Hi-Pro in tenkeyless layout and an teak/aluminium case like this one:

 
Show Image
(http://www.keyboardco.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/pimpmyfilco_Lin2.jpg)


Anymore info on this particular one?
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: Photekq on Thu, 22 October 2015, 21:51:46
Cherry MX5000 with beamspring switches
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: PunksDead on Thu, 22 October 2015, 22:28:25
I'd like to hang out with an 87" SSK,

Probly a chill dude (keyboards can't be girls). We would be around the same age and have a lot in common and similar thoughts about the modern world. He would most likely have some interesting stories about whomever typed on him before. I'd ask him the weirdest internet search ever typed on him. Since he has seen me naked I'd ask him what he thought about the "situation" and if I have a shot. He might shoot me down but it would be worth the risk. After a bit of awkwardness I could imagine us paling around together on the floor then going to grab falafel with Cpt. badass 
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 22 October 2015, 22:33:10
I'd like to hang out with an 87" SSK,

Probly a chill dude (keyboards can't be girls). We would be around the same age and have a lot in common and similar thoughts about the modern world. He would most likely have some interesting stories about whomever typed on him before. I'd ask him the weirdest internet search ever typed on him. Since he has seen me naked I'd ask him what he thought about the "situation" and if I have a shot. He might shoot me down but it would be worth the risk. After a bit of awkwardness I could imagine us paling around together on the floor then going to grab falafel with Cpt. badass

Was this your way of asking me to bring my SSK for when we get falafel? 'cause I really do have an 87 SSK LOL
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: PunksDead on Thu, 22 October 2015, 22:45:13
I'd like to hang out with an 87" SSK,

Probly a chill dude (keyboards can't be girls). We would be around the same age and have a lot in common and similar thoughts about the modern world. He would most likely have some interesting stories about whomever typed on him before. I'd ask him the weirdest internet search ever typed on him. Since he has seen me naked I'd ask him what he thought about the "situation" and if I have a shot. He might shoot me down but it would be worth the risk. After a bit of awkwardness I could imagine us paling around together on the floor then going to grab falafel with Cpt. badass

Was this your way of asking me to bring my SSK for when we get falafel? 'cause I really do have an 87 SSK LOL
LOL i have an 87 SSK as well! Can we totally walk around the city with our SSKs?!
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: PunksDead on Thu, 22 October 2015, 22:46:25
Oh **** I'm running out of posts Cpt we need to finish this date on skype
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: SamirD on Thu, 22 October 2015, 23:15:39
I'd like to hang out with an 87" SSK,

Probly a chill dude (keyboards can't be girls). We would be around the same age and have a lot in common and similar thoughts about the modern world. He would most likely have some interesting stories about whomever typed on him before. I'd ask him the weirdest internet search ever typed on him. Since he has seen me naked I'd ask him what he thought about the "situation" and if I have a shot. He might shoot me down but it would be worth the risk. After a bit of awkwardness I could imagine us paling around together on the floor then going to grab falafel with Cpt. badass

Was this your way of asking me to bring my SSK for when we get falafel? 'cause I really do have an 87 SSK LOL
And who said we need a dating section on gh?  :))

Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: mobbo on Fri, 23 October 2015, 07:43:51
Beige/White 55g Realforce Hi-Pro in tenkeyless layout and an teak/aluminium case like this one:

 
Show Image
(http://www.keyboardco.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/pimpmyfilco_Lin2.jpg)


Anymore info on this particular one?

I found it here: http://www.keyboardco.com/blog/index.php/2014/10/11-custom-filco-entries-from-the-pimp-your-filco-contest/

Looks like some contest, here's the full description of the board in question:

" Keyboard is a Filco Majestouch Tenkeyless Linear R – FKBN87MR/CB2.
Case is made from 3 layers of solid teak wood, dyed in dark brown and finished with lacquer.
Center frame is CNC’ed from a stainless steel grade 304 plate.
Alpha keys are engraved rainbow KBC PBT + engraved white KBC PBT modifiers + dyesubbed novelty keys + paw Esc key.
Haven’t gotten the chance to give the adjustable feet a good finish.
Roof is made from clear acrylic, and added a Filco logo as a finishing touch.
"

I just love that case...
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: ander on Sat, 24 October 2015, 03:26:50
"come to life" meaning that it is dead, or unusable, now? ...

I think the OP meant, "If you could have any KB, real or imagined, what would it be?"

There's no question in my mind: A Model F with a standard Model M layout.
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: swimmingbird on Sat, 24 October 2015, 08:50:10
"come to life" meaning that it is dead, or unusable, now? ...

I think the OP meant, "If you could have any KB, real or imagined, what would it be?"

There's no question in my mind: A Model F with a standard Model M layout.

Yes this was the meaning

I didn't mean come to life like Gremlins or something
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: SamirD on Sat, 24 October 2015, 08:50:45
There's no question in my mind: A Model F with a standard Model M layout.
Yep, same here.  :thumb:

Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: dante on Sat, 24 October 2015, 09:31:10
I'd want a IBM Model M2 F w/ capacitive buckling springs and better capacitors :D
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: Findecanor on Sat, 24 October 2015, 15:44:50
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/wRMMmYm.png)

I lack the skills to bring it together -- mainly PCB design and keymap programming are holding me back.  Maybe someday...  :P
That's basically an ErgoDox with an additional numpad. You wouldn't need a special PCB for the additional Num Lock and Down-arrow - just a plate to hold the switches and some wiring to unused switch positions on the existing PCB. Then run some longer wires to the LEDs in the middle instead of soldering the LEDs directly.
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: rm-rf on Sat, 24 October 2015, 15:47:40
i feel it would be uncomfortable to type on a keyboard that came to life...
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: Coreda on Sat, 24 October 2015, 16:07:10
Expected the topic to be about the equivalent of 'if you could hear the stories of a keyboard in history which would it be?', that in itself would be fascinating :)
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: ander on Sat, 31 October 2015, 06:47:12
I think the OP meant, "If you could have any KB, real or imagined, what would it be?"

Yes this was the meaning... I didn't mean come to life like Gremlins or something

LOL. I'm imagining a Model M with arms and legs and a face sprouting out of it, and it starts walking around on the desk... "Hey, blame swimmingbird, not me!!"

i feel it would be uncomfortable to type on a keyboard that came to life...

On the other hand, my wife usually treats me like an inanimate object—so it'd be nice to have an inanimate object that would come to life, recognize me, and even be a little interested in what I'm doing. Maybe I need to get one of those Siri phones.

My 2nd fantasy board would be one of IBM's early attempts at making a Japanese keyboard:

(http://cdn.twentytwowords.com/wp-content/uploads/Japanese-Keyboard-04-634x475.jpg?acd53e)

It wouldn't have to be any different at all. I'd bow to it every day, offer it gifts of fruit and sweets, maybe leave some incense burning around it...
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: davkol on Sat, 31 October 2015, 07:42:10
Historical keyboard: the original Maltron (i.e., with more thumb keys) converted to be usable with modern computers
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/KB_Maltron_3D_US.svg/772px-KB_Maltron_3D_US.svg.png)

Dream keyboard: ditto, but with full hand separation and open-hardware design

A keyboard coming to life: probably a battleship IBM Model F as The Sword That Speaks (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TalkingWeapon?from=Main.TheSwordThatSpeaks) (TV Tropes warning) for zombie apocalypse.
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 31 October 2015, 09:02:22
This is a stupid question.

Both my ergodoxis talk to me daily,  we discuss numerous topics involving the meaning of life. (http://i.imgur.com/uAYk0lt.gif)
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: SamirD on Sat, 31 October 2015, 11:40:58
I think the OP meant, "If you could have any KB, real or imagined, what would it be?"

Yes this was the meaning... I didn't mean come to life like Gremlins or something

LOL. I'm imagining a Model M with arms and legs and a face sprouting out of it, and it starts walking around on the desk... "Hey, blame swimmingbird, not me!!"

i feel it would be uncomfortable to type on a keyboard that came to life...

On the other hand, my wife usually treats me like an inanimate object—so it'd be nice to have an inanimate object that would come to life, recognize me, and even be a little interested in what I'm doing. Maybe I need to get one of those Siri phones.

My 2nd fantasy board would be one of IBM's early attempts at making a Japanese keyboard:

Show Image
(http://cdn.twentytwowords.com/wp-content/uploads/Japanese-Keyboard-04-634x475.jpg?acd53e)


It wouldn't have to be any different at all. I'd bow to it every day, offer it gifts of fruit and sweets, maybe leave some incense burning around it...
Wow!  Is is just me or do that many keys make you happy?

I wonder what the world record is for the number of keys on a keyboard?

Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: keshley on Sat, 31 October 2015, 14:54:47
40% programmable bluetooth HHKB. Since I want something just a bit smaller than a standard HHKB for when I'm traveling.
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: Findecanor on Sat, 31 October 2015, 16:36:12
I have a dream keyboard, but it is not easy to build with regular switches and keycaps.
Split with a symmetric stagger, but where the keys are somewhat in a curve around each hand - that's the easy part. The hard part is that I would also like there to be a slight non-uniform curve on the backplane and the keycaps' angle towards the middle a bit like keyboard.io or the Logitech Wave.
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: snarfarlarkus on Sat, 31 October 2015, 23:31:06
Probably a 60% Beam Spring keyboard with the IBM display writer keycaps. Or maybe an SSK but with capacitive buckling springs. Kishsavers don't look as sexy as SSK's do.

EDIT: It will be wireless too just because :p
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: ripwallet on Sat, 31 October 2015, 23:35:35
TKL HHKB with Purple Backlighting :D
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: jerue on Sun, 01 November 2015, 06:17:09
Probably a 60% Beam Spring keyboard with the IBM display writer keycaps. Or maybe an SSK but with capacitive buckling springs. Kishsavers don't look as sexy as SSK's do.

EDIT: It will be wireless too just because :p

You must not be familiar with Hoffman's kish...it's soooooo sexy. The case has aged well, looks better than my SSK. Though Displaywrite caps could be interesting, I like the bold Helvetica opposed to the thin font on most sets.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7529/15122146054_7543223c98_k.jpg)

I want to see an APL kish. Make it happen Hoff! Pwease  :-*
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: ripwallet on Sun, 01 November 2015, 06:24:07
Probably a 60% Beam Spring keyboard with the IBM display writer keycaps. Or maybe an SSK but with capacitive buckling springs. Kishsavers don't look as sexy as SSK's do.

EDIT: It will be wireless too just because :p

You must not be familiar with Hoffman's kish...it's soooooo sexy. The case has aged well, looks better than my SSK. Though Displaywrite caps could be interesting, I like the bold Helvetica opposed to the thin font on most sets.

Show Image
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7529/15122146054_7543223c98_k.jpg)


I want to see an APL kish. Make it happen Hoff! Pwease  :-*

 :-X......So pretty love that SSK all those artisans too  :eek:
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: suicidal_orange on Sun, 01 November 2015, 06:51:03
I'd love a Matias Ergo Pro with a full size F row and standard size bottom row, but this would also require a reality where Alps are much more popular so keysets and artisans would fit it.
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: sitch on Sun, 01 November 2015, 06:55:19
topre realforce 87 55g with mx compatible sliders


Ergodox with topre domes


 :p
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: snarfarlarkus on Sun, 01 November 2015, 19:22:11
Oh, that looks quite nice! I still prefer an SSK or even a Model F 122. I really don't know why Kishsavers are not appealing in aesthetics to me, but I do love the name  :thumb:
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: moshimalloe on Sun, 01 November 2015, 19:47:07
TKL HHKB with Purple Backlighting :D
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: Goranth on Mon, 02 November 2015, 02:45:00
My Pok3r w/ Clears would come to life and be a Digimon-like little companion.

Edit: I misinterpreted the question.  But I would love for Novatouch 60% to be a thing.
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: ander on Tue, 03 November 2015, 02:29:11
This is a fun topic, OP. I also understand KB fanatics who lead decent, caring lives get their dream boards when they go to Heaven, so it doesn't seem like a bad idea to start thinking about them now.

A keyboard coming to life: probably a battleship IBM Model F as The Sword That Speaks (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TalkingWeapon?from=Main.TheSwordThatSpeaks) (TV Tropes warning) for zombie apocalypse.

LOL. If there's anyone here who's never seen an F-122 in person, they might not get that... I'm sure none of us will forget the first one we beheld one—it's a religious experience.

Wow!  Is is just me or do that many keys make you happy?

Yeah, I imagine many of us feel our pulses increase when we see something like that.

I wonder what the world record is for the number of keys on a keyboard?


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40% programmable bluetooth HHKB. Since I want something just a bit smaller than a standard HHKB for when I'm traveling.

Wait till you see the 20% keyboard I'm making—it's twice as cool!

I have a dream keyboard, but it is not easy to build with regular switches and keycaps... Split with a symmetric stagger, but where the keys are somewhat in a curve around each hand - that's the easy part. The hard part is that I would also like there to be a slight non-uniform curve on the backplane and the keycaps' angle towards the middle a bit like keyboard.io or the Logitech Wave.

Man, that sounds like it should include a private bar and an automated massage chair.

You must not be familiar with Hoffman's kish...it's soooooo sexy...

Show Image
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7529/15122146054_7543223c98_k.jpg)


Not only can you type on it, you can take it along when you run away to join the circus!
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: keyboardia1 on Tue, 03 November 2015, 02:45:48
I'd say a silenced 60 % Novatouch. I'd also like to have 60 % with blue alps but i guess i could build that someday.
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: davkol on Tue, 03 November 2015, 11:51:00
Historical keyboard: the original Maltron (i.e., with more thumb keys) converted to be usable with modern computers
Show Image
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/KB_Maltron_3D_US.svg/772px-KB_Maltron_3D_US.svg.png)


Dream keyboard: ditto, but with full hand separation and open-hardware design
…and here we go! Someone got a case from Maltron (http://benjamin.vanryseghem.com/2015/10/23/Ergotron.html) for their custom build.
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: SamirD on Tue, 03 November 2015, 13:06:05
I wonder what the world record is for the number of keys on a keyboard?


(Attachment Link)
Is that some sort of hip keyboard bar?  Like where everyone can play?  That would be interesting as a computer equivalent.  But oh, the pick up lines...(I can't think of any)...
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: W_hinklebottom on Wed, 04 November 2015, 15:05:42
Just a HKKB with a metal case.........(sigh)
Title: Re: You can make one keyboard come to life what is it?
Post by: AllegedlyAlienated on Wed, 04 November 2015, 16:00:49
Mine would probably be a Leopold Fc660c with 55g.